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ftastudent2
09-22-2013, 03:11 PM
How does this board physically install in the SV8K?
Can the +5vdc be obtained from the SV8K?

runamok
09-22-2013, 03:54 PM
It connects to the serial port just like any other hub.The only difference is you have yo buy a 5 volt adapter.The receiver will not power the 110sr.

It's Jafo
09-22-2013, 04:21 PM
I have seen it rumored that you can pick up power by making a pin jumper on the board.I cant confirm that myself since looking at the schematic for the 110 board, I don't see where the power supply jack connects to the number 9 pin on the serial port which is what you would see if they were tied together for the option of power from one source or the other.\
Look here:
http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php?135056-Ihub-replacments-for-only-26!&p=994752#post994752

ftastudent2
09-22-2013, 05:08 PM
I have seen it rumored that you can pick up power by making a pin jumper on the board.I cant confirm that myself since looking at the schematic for the 110 board, I don't see where the power supply jack connects to the number 9 pin on the serial port which is what you would see if they were tied together for the option of power from one source or the other.\
Look here:
http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php?135056-Ihub-replacments-for-only-26!&p=994752#post994752

I think I have that info someplace, probably on my server, will check and post it if I do.
Thanks for setting my in the right direction.

ftastudent2
09-22-2013, 05:18 PM
This what I have

CN 3 To Main Receiver Board (Voltages are printed on the circuit board)
Pin 1 -30VP C69, C70 both are 47HF/50V
Pin 2 GND
Pin 3 +22V (a) C21, C22, (C21 and C22 are in Parallel), C23 all are 470HF/35V
Pin 4 +22V (b) C18, C19, (C18 and C19 are in Parallel), C20 all are 470HF/35V
Pin 5 +5V C12, C13, (C12 and C13 are in Parallel), both are 2,200HF/10V,
C14 is 1,000uF/10V
Pin 6 +5V (directly connected to Pin 5)
Pin 7 +3V3 C10, C11, C24 (C11 and C24 are in Parallel) all are 1,000HF/10V
(new Ver. C10 is 2,200HF/10V)
Pin 8 +3V3 (directly connected to Pin 7)
Pin 9 GND
Pin 10 +12VP C67, C68 both are 220HF/16V
Pin 11 +5VP C64, C66 both are 470HF/10V
Pin 12 ON/OFF (really isn't on/off)

CN 4 To PSK Board
Pin 1 +12V C16 1,000 HF /16V, C17 470 HF /16V
(These should be replaced with 25V rated Caps)
Pin 2 GND
Pin 3 GND
Pin 4 +5V from CN3 pins 5 & 6
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OK, so you can't use voltage from pin 4 as this is for the PSK board and it draws a lot so you can get the +5 from pin 6. Just have to chase it to the serial port. Serial ports are a standard, gonna Google for that.

ftastudent2
09-22-2013, 05:23 PM
I take it that it mounts externally to the serial port? Is this correct?

jvvh5897
09-22-2013, 06:53 PM
Yes, you plug the hub into the serial port

poroto40
09-22-2013, 07:53 PM
ftastudent12 you will need null serial cable and 5v power to connect wiz110sr to the sonicview rs232 port

satcom staff
09-22-2013, 08:23 PM
no 5v power need just soder a jumper on the wizhub the 9pin will power it up with no problems. if you need a pic let me know i will gladly post one here. but it if you know just a little about electronics you should no problem finding the 5v power source from the 9pin

**hell i better add the picture before someone fry's their box lol**
picture added:)

ftastudent2
09-23-2013, 02:43 AM
no 5v power need just soder a jumper on the wizhub the 9pin will power it up with no problems. if you need a pic let me know i will gladly post one here. but it if you know just a little about electronics you should no problem finding the 5v power source from the 9pin

**hell i better add the picture before someone fry's their box lol**
picture added:)
All questions answered. Thanks all. The pic tells a lot for the +5. just need to buy the board and a box that fits it and yes I have good electronics experience after 40+ years of designing and bread boarding simple electronic circuits. Want a design to control your curtains with a Atari 400 parallel port. How bought a variable DC power supply etc. Done that been there. WOW. good old SV8K working again, can,t wait. Thank you all so much.

niteowl0007
09-29-2013, 05:07 AM
no 5v power need just soder a jumper on the wizhub the 9pin will power it up with no problems. if you need a pic let me know i will gladly post one here. but it if you know just a little about electronics you should no problem finding the 5v power source from the 9pin

**hell i better add the picture before someone fry's their box lol**
picture added:)

may i ask what this does and will it improve anything??? thanks

satcom staff
09-29-2013, 06:29 AM
may i ask what this does and will it improve anything??? thanks

the jumper in the pic will allow you to power up the wiz110sr without having to run a separate power power supply to it. i am first to do this. and it works flawless

airjam
09-29-2013, 12:18 PM
no 5v power need just soder a jumper on the wizhub the 9pin will power it up with no problems. if you need a pic let me know i will gladly post one here. but it if you know just a little about electronics you should no problem finding the 5v power source from the 9pin

**hell i better add the picture before someone fry's their box lol**
picture added:)Good thing you posted the picture as that is Pin 1 and not pin 9. :tehe:

ftastudent2
09-29-2013, 06:21 PM
the jumper in the pic will allow you to power up the wiz110sr without having to run a separate power power supply to it. i am first to do this. and it works flawless

Done and yes it works great, now just need to pick up a small box to protect the board. Thanks satcom staff. I knew +5 was at the serial port but your picture confirmed the pin And the multimeter confirmed +5.

supernova
10-01-2013, 08:39 PM
can someone please post the picture

It's Jafo
10-02-2013, 12:52 AM
Look here:
http://www.satfix.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=19675&d=1379881963

bigbird
10-02-2013, 01:19 PM
If you're too lazy like me and don't want to solder jumpers. There is a guy in Port Lucie Fl that sells a self contained hubs that requires no separate PS for $60 shipped. He's the guy that sells replacement fans on fleabay. I'm not him so don't flame. It's just an easier plug and play.

bigbird

satcom staff
10-03-2013, 05:03 PM
Done and yes it works great, now just need to pick up a small box to protect the board. Thanks satcom staff. I knew +5 was at the serial port but your picture confirmed the pin And the multimeter confirmed +5.

you don't need to buy a small box for that hub,. i will post an easier and cheaper fix for protecting the hub., the way i do it. will post picture tomorrow as i am not home right now.

supernova
10-05-2013, 10:17 PM
i purchased to new wiz110sr and i sodered it like it showed but the lights in the back dont come on. Do i need to program it first?

It's Jafo
10-05-2013, 11:00 PM
If your jumper is on the correct pin (9) and your rs232 port is putting out power, you should be good to go.Can you still plug it into the power supply and have it work ? If yes, confirm the pin is correct.

beambeam
10-07-2013, 12:07 PM
can someone please post the picture

post #9 has the pic.

supernova
10-11-2013, 12:54 AM
just got my power supply from ebay and it works with the power supply but it doesn't work when I sodered like in the picture. Any suggestions.

It's Jafo
10-11-2013, 10:14 AM
Your either on the wrong pin, your solder job was poor or your rs232 port isn't putting out power.It can only be one of the three.

airjam
10-11-2013, 12:25 PM
just got my power supply from ebay and it works with the power supply but it doesn't work when I sodered like in the picture. Any suggestions.


Not all null modems are created equal. The basic requirement of a null modem cable is crossing pin 2 with 3 and connecting pin 5 to 5. This is a null modem cable with no handshaking.
Now for cables with hand shaking other pins come into play.

The Sonicview has +5V at pin 4 of the RS232 port and this 5V has to be transmitted through the Null modem cable to pin 1 of the Wiz110SR ( Note reference is being made to pin 9 in the forums. This is incorrect. Pin 1 is the correct number )
In a Null modem cable that allows handshaking pin 1/6 from one end connects to pin 4 at the other end thus delivering 5v from pin 4 on the sonicview to pin 1 on the Wiz110SR.

See the attached images. of a simple Null modem compared to Null modem with handshaking.
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supernova
10-11-2013, 08:32 PM
Can somebody send me a pic of a wiz110sr which has been soldered. It is for my sonicview 360. Thank you. I just dont want to mess up my hubs.

airjam
10-11-2013, 09:20 PM
Can somebody send me a pic of a wiz110sr which has been soldered. It is for my sonicview 360. Thank you. I just dont want to mess up my hubs.

Look at post # 9

jammyjam
11-26-2013, 12:37 AM
Is the need for a null serial cable still there if a power suppy is used? Or can a female/female serial coupler be used?

runamok
11-26-2013, 12:46 AM
Is the need for a null serial cable still there if a power suppy is used? Or can a female/female serial coupler be used?

Yes that is how hub is connected to receiver.

jammyjam
11-26-2013, 01:03 AM
can anyone post a pic of the reciever and null serial cable and wiz connected. I was under the impression that the null was needed if planning on self powering with the jumper wire. And a female to female non-null Serial adapter could be used if a power supply was used.

runamok
11-26-2013, 01:08 AM
can anyone post a pic of the reciever and null serial cable and wiz connected. I was under the impression that the null was needed if planning on self powering with the jumper wire. And a female to female non-null Serial adapter could be used if a power supply was used.

Use null cable that came with receiver.

Sp0iler
11-26-2013, 11:08 AM
can anyone post a pic of the reciever and null serial cable and wiz connected. I was under the impression that the null was needed if planning on self powering with the jumper wire. And a female to female non-null Serial adapter could be used if a power supply was used.
Your correct. I use external power and a female/female straight through serial cable. Essentially nothing more than an extension cord for the serial connection.

airjam
11-26-2013, 02:17 PM
Your correct. I use external power and a female/female straight through serial cable. Essentially nothing more than an extension cord for the serial connection.

Sorry Spoiler, not correct.
Null modem cable is different than a straight through cable. In Null modem certain pins are crossed and a straight through cable will not communicate with the Wiz110SR.

A Ihub on the other hand will take a straight through cable Male-Female as an extension for the Ihub.

See post # 24

airjam
11-26-2013, 02:19 PM
Your correct. I use external power and a female/female straight through serial cable. Essentially nothing more than an extension cord for the serial connection.
You must use a Null Modem F-F cable or adapter. The Wiz110SR will not communicate with a straight through cable.

satcom staff
11-26-2013, 04:29 PM
you can also use something like this>>ebay item#360797603081
just make sure you get one with the right barrel size