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    Attempted robbery gone south

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    D.R.T. Dead Right There

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    You can see the down fly from his vest...he's toast.

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    Gunfire rang out Monday afternoon in a home in Broken Arrow, an Oklahoma city 15 miles southeast of Tulsa. Three intruders were killed after the son of the homeowner fired a semiautomatic rifle in what local law enforcement officers later described as an act of self-defense, though their investigation remains open.


    The intruders — a 16-year-old, a 17-year-old and a man thought to be 18 or 19 — had smashed open the back door of the house, the Wagoner County Sheriff’s Office said in a statement posted to Facebook. Their plan was burglary, authorities said.


    They wore gloves, masks and all-black clothes, Wagoner County Deputy Nick Mahoney told Tulsa World. Two of the teenagers were armed, one with a knife and the other with brass knuckles

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    When I look at this video ,, I ask myself ,,,, Why did the security guard shoot the intruder after
    he was on the floor? Clearly his gun was dropped and at which point was unarmed.

    By no means am I defending the bank robber

    But it appears as though the 3rd 4th and 5th shots were un-necessary in defense

    When the intruder is running or rolling away and he gets hit 3 with shots in the back ,, to me is an offensive attack aimed to kill
    as no one was in danger from a fleeing criminal

    Just saying ,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLG View Post
    When I look at this video ,, I ask myself ,,,, Why did the security guard shoot the intruder after
    he was on the floor? Clearly his gun was dropped and at which point was unarmed.

    By no means am I defending the bank robber

    But it appears as though the 3rd 4th and 5th shots were un-necessary in defense

    When the intruder is running or rolling away and he gets hit 3 with shots in the back ,, to me is an offensive attack aimed to kill
    as no one was in danger from a fleeing criminal

    Just saying ,,,
    You have to put yourself in that situation:the heat of the moment so to speak.
    In defense of the bank security,you have no way of knowing how many weapons the robber has.Is he faking his death?Can he still return fire with an alternate weapon??The decisions have to be made in a split second.Tough to do.
    The bottom line is this:the assailant entered the bank with a loaded,pointed firearm with the intension of stealing money,& shooting anyone interfering with his quest for cash.The bank security was in a situation where he was responsible for his own life as well as others in the building.I think he possibly went farther than he had to, but did the right thing in any case.

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    Only in America.........anyone want to place any bets that some lawyer will emerge on behalf of the family claiming "wrongful death" or "unnecessary force" in both zombo`s or wattso`s posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Noof View Post
    You have to put yourself in that situation:the heat of the moment so to speak.
    In defense of the bank security,you have no way of knowing how many weapons the robber has.Is he faking his death?Can he still return fire with an alternate weapon??The decisions have to be made in a split second.Tough to do.
    The bottom line is this:the assailant entered the bank with a loaded,pointed firearm with the intension of stealing money,& shooting anyone interfering with his quest for cash.The bank security was in a situation where he was responsible for his own life as well as others in the building.I think he possibly went farther than he had to, but did the right thing in any case.
    The "right thing" and the law are 2 vastly different things..............my guess is that we`ll hear more about this before the books are closed. All it takes is one lawyer to convince the family to sue..............only in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Noof View Post
    .I think he possibly went farther than he had to,
    I agree 100% with you on this point ...

    However I still believe that the guard is or should be a professional or trained professional and should be
    capable in making decisions (in the moment) ,,, the objective is to save lives ,,, including the intruders

    the whole purpose of arms ,,,is self defense ,, what we saw there is anything but
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLG View Post
    I agree 100% with you on this point ...

    However I still believe that the guard is or should be a professional or trained professional and should be
    capable in making decisions (in the moment) ,,, the objective is to save lives ,,, including the intruders

    the whole purpose of arms ,,,is self defense ,, what we saw there is anything but
    "Professional & trained" police,military & security personel do this very same thing every day in the U.S. it seems.How many times have we seen this from the police in the last several years?Little if anything is ever done about it, I'm sure for the reasons I mentioned.
    Don't misunderstand me TLG :I'm not defending the security dude or the police or anyone else in similar situations.I don't have the right to because I wasn't them or there.I do understand how it happens though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLG View Post
    I agree 100% with you on this point ...

    However I still believe that the guard is or should be a professional or trained professional and should be
    capable in making decisions (in the moment) ,,, the objective is to save lives ,,, including the intruders

    the whole purpose of arms ,,,is self defense ,, what we saw there is anything but
    Solely my opinion..., the only thing I disagree with in your comment is the 'including the intruders'. The intruder lost all rights when he took the gun into the Bank with the premeditated thought of 1) threatening the employees & customers with violence & 2) taking something that did not belong to him.

    The intruder gave up all his rights when he got out of his vehicle and went into the Bank with Gun in hand. The Guard made the correct decision, in the moment...

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    I just like it when it turns out like that...saves the county a lot of money....just think how much the kid saved.

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    At the end of the day, the security guard may have saved the lives of any number of bank employees, & certainly his own.I guess that is his job in this case.
    The sad reality is that guy risked his life for a few hundred bucks & lost.What the hell has happened to us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by teamwork000 View Post
    Solely my opinion..., the only thing I disagree with in your comment is the 'including the intruders'. The intruder lost all rights when he took the gun into the Bank with the premeditated thought of 1) threatening the employees & customers with violence & 2) taking something that did not belong to him.

    The intruder gave up all his rights when he got out of his vehicle and went into the Bank with Gun in hand. The Guard made the correct decision, in the moment...
    Should be duly noted that in many cases that make it to the courts we find that the criminal has more rights than the innocents he terrorizes. The guard indeed made the right decision to shoot..................to shoot repeatedly after the situation was in control would be the issue if it went forward. Still....I`m a believer that if you go in with a gun drawn you get what you get....looks good on him.

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