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    Quote Originally Posted by dishuser View Post
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    I can compare several channels against ota
    just checked again on a couple of channels and it's about 15 seconds behind

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    I have a question for jedi since you have a lot of knowledge on how the systems work. you say that once a month the ECM kills cards/receivers and they all have to be replaced. how come these cards are affected by the ECM since they are legit subscribing cards? im guessing a normal subbed users card is not affected by ECM and they have no idea that such a thing even exists. i dont understand how legit subbed cards used for IKS are affected by ECM if normal subbed cards are not affected by ECM. i dont think charlie sends people new receivers and cards every month because of ECM. not trying to be a dick but im just curious as to why one is affected but the other is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishuser View Post
    just checked again on a couple of channels and it's about 15 seconds behind
    some are more ,ctv east was over 30 when i checked but most are under 20

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye144 View Post
    I have a question for jedi since you have a lot of knowledge on how the systems work. you say that once a month the ECM kills cards/receivers and they all have to be replaced. how come these cards are affected by the ECM since they are legit subscribing cards? im guessing a normal subbed users card is not affected by ECM and they have no idea that such a thing even exists. i dont understand how legit subbed cards used for IKS are affected by ECM if normal subbed cards are not affected by ECM. i dont think charlie sends people new receivers and cards every month because of ECM. not trying to be a dick but im just curious as to why one is affected but the other is not.
    I'm not jedi but it seems an easy answer, they look for to many cw's requested and go from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfinisfun View Post
    I'm not jedi but it seems an easy answer, they look for to many cw's requested and go from there.
    ohhhh, so your saying that charlie can check the receiver to see how many CW's where requested in a period of time? im guessing they do this over an internet connection to the legit receiver. i know that the video/picture is a one way communication from the sat so they cant really check through a sat connection. if its over an internet connection that they check CW's what do they do about people who dont have internet to connect to their IRD or do they require the sub to have internet before they will allow service? just learning because i would just not put the IRD online so they cant check for CW's but charlie will probably call complaining that they cant check or "update" your IRD because they cant see it.

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    I don’t think what is going on with the new iks is a ecm it looks to me like a ddos attack from somewhere cause server is down ecm don’t take servers down just cards etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishuser View Post
    just checked again on a couple of channels and it's about 15 seconds behind
    i still don't believe it, but i ll check it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye144 View Post
    ohhhh, so your saying that charlie can check the receiver to see how many CW's where requested in a period of time? im guessing they do this over an internet connection to the legit receiver. i know that the video/picture is a one way communication from the sat so they cant really check through a sat connection. if its over an internet connection that they check CW's what do they do about people who dont have internet to connect to their IRD or do they require the sub to have internet before they will allow service? just learning because i would just not put the IRD online so they cant check for CW's but charlie will probably call complaining that they cant check or "update" your IRD because they cant see it.
    the requests are done thru sat connection so no internet required

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    Quote Originally Posted by haha911 View Post
    i still don't believe it, but i ll check it out.
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    They h264 transcode the streams, so there will always be a delay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dishuser View Post
    the requests are done thru sat connection so no internet required
    Very interesting, thanks for sharing. so i saying that its a downlink only isnt true. there is an uplink as well. its really impressive that they can manipulate specific cards and IRD's when broadcasting from the sat to all of north america. this is something i had no idea was even happening or possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylarue View Post
    They h264 transcode the streams, so there will always be a delay.
    just like there's a delay of about 5 seconds with sat

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    Internet connection ? , no they will look at card cw's requests period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfinisfun View Post
    Internet connection ? , no they will look at card cw's requests period.
    what i wanted to know is how they can even see the cards CW requests. from what i read and was told is the sat connection is downlink only.

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    IKS is dead!

    Iks was dead 4 years ago if you read all the rumours. It was dead last year and the year before and the year before that lollll...

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    What your thinking is that DN or any other provider could see data on there cards if they are connected to the internet only.?

    That is absolutely false, like i said, CW's requested which is......as you can imagine, monitored by the provider and in bedded on cards.

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