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bprintz
04-10-2012, 02:32 AM
I'm trying to figure out the best option for adding 82/91 to an existing Dish 1000.2 setup (with DPPlus Triple LNBF pointing at 110/119/129). I have a Dish 500, but am wondering the best LNB and appropriate switch setup would be to get this working on 3 receivers.

Thanks!

nixon_r
04-10-2012, 01:25 PM
Are you using an existing switch on the 1000.2? What type of LNBs are you using on the dish500? It is definitely possible to do what you want but it will depend on what LNBs you plan om using.

bprintz
04-11-2012, 02:37 AM
There is no switch being used on the 1000.2 setup as it is a DPPlus Triple LNBF. Currently 3 lines run directly from the 3 outputs on the LNB directly to each receiver. The Dish 500 has a Dish Pro Twin LNBF, however I don't think I will be able to use this LNB for this setup (correct me if I'm wrong), and was expecting to have to order another LNB and switches to get this working... I'm just not sure what I need. Greatly appreciate the help!

Bandoura
04-14-2012, 05:46 AM
Do you mean you are installing two LNBs to get 91/82 in addition to 110/119/129?


I'm trying to figure out the best option for adding 82/91 to an existing Dish 1000.2 setup (with DPPlus Triple LNBF pointing at 110/119/129). I have a Dish 500, but am wondering the best LNB and appropriate switch setup would be to get this working on 3 receivers.

Thanks!

nixon_r
04-14-2012, 02:32 PM
You will need a switch or two of some sort to achieve this setup. Your Dsih500 is D Pro and you 1000.2 is DPro Plus, I think it is easier, for the moment. to use a DP34 switch on your Dish500 (3 inputs, 4 outputs) and 22K Ecoda switches to tie the two dishes together. The only real problem I can foresee is possibly a power issue on the 1000.2 when 1 or more receivers switch away. You could use a power inserter on port 1 of the 1000.2 LNB.
Ideally you would use a DP34 on the Dish500 and a DPP44 on the 1000.2 and then use 22k Ecoda to combine things, I am hoping to save you the cost of the DPP44 as they are expensive.

Terryl
04-14-2012, 06:18 PM
There is no switch being used on the 1000.2 setup as it is a DPPlus Triple LNBF. Currently 3 lines run directly from the 3 outputs on the LNB directly to each receiver. The Dish 500 has a Dish Pro Twin LNBF, however I don't think I will be able to use this LNB for this setup (correct me if I'm wrong), and was expecting to have to order another LNB and switches to get this working... I'm just not sure what I need. Greatly appreciate the help!

OK, first things, the Dish Pro Twin LNB is a dual satellite LNB,(one for 82 and one for 91) this brings up a problem, the Dish 1000 LNB's input will only handle 1 (one) single satellite DPP LNB, this is due to the internal switch, Diseqc port #4 is the only one available for a single satellite external LNB.

Now for more problems, the Dish 1000 LNB will only play nice with the DPP44 switch, (this is stated in all Dish engineering bulletins for this LNB) so you may run into switching problems when using a different switch, other then specified.


One solution to all this, is use all DP Pro dual LNB's, (single satellite LNB) one for each satellite, then a 6 input (they don't make a 5 input) to 4 output Diseqc switch will work them all, however the receivers need to be Diseqc 1.1 capable or you won't be able to switch the last LNB. (#5)

Or you can then use two 3x4 switches and then three 22 KHz switches (1 per receiver) to go between the two 3x4's, this is a lot of coax jumpers and a bit more signal loss on the system.

Switching setup for all attached receivers would be.

Diseqc # 1 = 119, 22 KHz = OFF.

Diseqc # 2 = 110, 22 KHz = OFF.

Diseqc # 3 = 129, 22 KHz = OFF.


Diseqc # 1 = 91, 22 KHz = ON.

Diseqc # 2 = 82, 22 KHz = ON.


Update:
And sorry to all reading the above post, I shouldn't post things after using the good weed spay, I should wear a mask, but then I wouldn't be a real redneck.

My thanks to Nixon_R for pointing out my errors.

bprintz
04-20-2012, 02:02 AM
Thanks for the info Terryl, but I think I've just gotten myself more confused! From reading your response it doesn't sound like there is any solution to be able to use the DPPlus Triple LNBF? I don't mind spending the money to buy DPP44 switches rather than switching out this LNB if there's a way to get it tied in to the 82/91 somehow, that's what I was hoping for but it sounds like this may not be possible?

svtcontour
04-30-2012, 04:22 AM
Not sure if this will help you, but I had pretty much the same setup. A 1000 and a 500 for 82/91.

DPP44 switch with an Encoda 22k.

Port 1, 119
Port 2, 110
Port 3, 82
Port 4, 91 with 22k off, and 129 with 22k on.

I had the 22k switch before port 4, so I tied in the 91 and 129 to the 22k and that cable to port 4.

I was using this setup on a CW3000 and a VS Ultra

Terryl
04-30-2012, 05:01 AM
This may work if the 110, 119 and 129 LNB were all separate LNB's, but the D1000 LNB has an internal switch, and it has to be used with a DPP 44 switch, so the switching must match the D1000 LNB's, this would be 119 = port #1, 110 = port #2, and 129 = port #3.

So only leaves the #4 port for 91 or 82, and it has to be a DP or DPP LNB so the D1000 LNB will recognize it.

To use the 22 KHz switch is has to be after the DPP 44 switch, this would give you the 91 or 82 LNB.

As far as testing it goes,

Diseqc port #1 = 119, 22 KHz OFF.
Diseqc port #2 = 110, 22 KHz OFF.
Diseqc port #3 = 129, 22 KHz OFF.
Diseqc port #4 = 91, 22 KHz OFF.
Diseqc port #1 = 82, 22 KHz ON.

Receiver output port #2 of the DPP44 switch was run to one side of the 22 KHz switch, the 82 LNB was run to the other, the output of the 22 KHz switch was run to the receiver.