Anyone got dimentions for 110, 119, 129 bracket

[T_Tronix]

Looking to make my own 110/118,119/129 bracket like this one:

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Looking for some sort of a blueprint with dimentions

[Terryl]

On a skew-able dish (rotatable like a steering wheel) the LNB's for 110 and 129 will be 2 -7/8" on center from the center of the LNB mounting arm, this is 2 -7/8" to the right for the 110 LNB, and 2- 7/8" to the left for the 129 LNB, the 118/119 LNB will be on true center.

On a non -skew-able dish, you will have to do some math, as the skew is different per location, it is NOT the same all over.

The skew is how far up or down from 90 degrees horizontal, the outside LNBs will have to be placed for proper alignment, at your location, to the arc of the Clark belt, this is where all the satellite TV birds are located.

[Terryl]

If you want to do your own, I did some calculations for you.

Here is what I came up with, using a skew angle of 125 degrees (35 degrees above 90) for your location.

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[T_Tronix]

wow thanks man! I'll put that blueprint to the test!

[Terryl]

Not knowing the type and the way the LNB's will mount to it, and what type of LNB arm there is on the dish your using, you will have to do some work on that at your end.

But if you can build that bracket, you shouldn't have problems with that end of the job, just be absolutely sure your mounting the LNB's at the prime focal area of the dish, otherwise your will have signal problems.

If you have an existing LNB on that dish, then measure to where it's eye is located, (distance from the center face of the dish, and how high above the LNB mounting arm) the new center LNB will have to be at that location and plain, or you will miss out on the strongest part of the signal.

Have fun.

[T_Tronix]

What about 61.5 72 and 77, I saw there is this 3 lnb thing for it but was wondering if I can just make a bracket and use it with my elliptical dish...

[Terryl]

That one is a bit more complicated to lay out, I will see if the software will handle the odd satellite spacing.

The other bracket was only a 9 and 10 degree spacing, this one would be a 4.3 and a 11.2 spacing off of center, might not be able to get the bends in for 72.7 and 77 on that one.

[T_Tronix]

Never mind 77 has only Mexican channels which I am not interested in anyway. I thought it had some HD...thanks though for trying to help!

[T_Tronix]

On another note, these HD lnbs they are the same right as regular ones?

[United]

On another note, these HD lnbs they are the same right as regular ones?
Yes HD LNBs are the same. Any LNB that gets SD will get HD as long as you are pointing to a HD sat.

[T_Tronix]

Cool thanks!

[Terryl]

The 110, 119 and 129 satellites have almost all the same channels as the 61.5, 72.7 and 77 birds do.

[T_Tronix]

Oh so its useless then, nice so no need for that lol.

[T_Tronix]

OK another question :D

I want to make 2 dishes into one (less holes in the roof). Can I get 82,91,110,119/118,129 with this dish and if so how?

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[Terryl]

Doesn't have the receive beamwidth.

Your looking at 47 degrees of spacing on those satellites, the only two dishes I know that will get those many birds, without signal problems on the outside LNB's are the T55 and T90.

look at these.

http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/WF/Why-Toroidal.htm

[T_Tronix]

XXX lol, how did he get the alignment with that bracket?!?!

[T_Tronix]

Oh well guess that project is off...

[Glatt]

14540Try Ne Plus lnb no problem with 95% across 5 Lnbs!

[Terryl]

I wonder how the dish even sees the satellites with all those LNB's in the way.

And it takes a lot of skill and a ton of patients to get it all setup and running, that why I'm not that big a fan of those multi LNB brackets, try it on a dish that is not designed for more then 1 or 2 satellites and your hairless in a month.

[T_Tronix]

look what I found:

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From this site:
hxxp://www.21stcenturyent.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2412

[Terryl]

No live links please.

And COOL it looks to have the same spec's as the T-90, so try it.(it's up to you)

But it doesn't come with LNB's you might have to use yours, hope they fit the mounts on that dish.

[T_Tronix]

I contacted them and they themselves claim that I might not be able to get one of the extremes (82 or 129) using that Dish lol...
Wondering the dimensions of these 2 side metals...

[f2air045]

Why do i have to pm u to know where to buy the ne ultra bracket

[Glatt]

The ne plus ultra bracket was patented because it is on a balljoint and gets the extremes from 82 and 129 at 95% accross the board!
Very easy to set up.

[jvvh5897]

I wonder how the dish even sees the satellites with all those LNB's in the way.



They are not in the way. The offset dishes see the signal coming in at such an angle that the LNBs are not in the line of sight except for the one that is on the centerline of the dish and even it is only blocking signal for the top half of the scaler part of the LNB. You can tell this on the days where solar outages happen--the shadow of the center LNB will just be seen at the lower edge of the dish--if you picture the shadows for the rest of the bracketed LNBs in your mind there could be some blockage too, but again I think only a fraction of the outer bottom edge could ever be involved.

[Terryl]

I was just kidding him, although he may need to reinforce the LNB mounting arm, and weld a front brace on the pole, it may droop a bit too far out of alignment over time..........say 10 to 20 years.........NYUK NYUK NYUK...................................Sorry...... ...........................My fault.

[swanone]

If you want to do your own, I did some calculations for you.

Here is what I came up with, using a skew angle of 125 degrees (35 degrees above 90) for your location.

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nice layout but it wont come out right cause there is no bend deductions for the 4 bends that you are making over a 8 inch piece of material not yet named. everything changes from steel to aluminum, from thickness to material , to the radius on the inside coner of each bend.

[T_Tronix]

So I got this 30" by 33" dish with this bracket thing to catch 110, 119/118, 129 but I can't! I was only able to catch 110/119,118 using a special bracket not requiring to skew left and right (this one: hxxp://ftasatellitedishreceiver.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/2LNB-PLATE-BRACKET.215110537_std.jpg). Is there a cheap signal finder meter that will allow me to see the satellite name when I am trying to lock it? I find the receiver is not accurate on showing what I am finding (right now I am using the cheap analogue signal finder, the one with an arrow going up and down and beeping when it detects a signal).

Its a PITA to catch 3 lnbs...

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OK another question :D

I want to make 2 dishes into one (less holes in the roof). Can I get 82,91,110,119/118,129 with this dish and if so how?

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[Nostradamus]

Doesn't have the receive beamwidth.

Your looking at 47 degrees of spacing on those satellites, the only two dishes I know that will get those many birds, without signal problems on the outside LNB's are the T55 and T90.

look at these.

http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/WF/Why-Toroidal.htm

and those things are a pain to set up and require a special LNB as well to compensate for the polaritybeing 180 degrees out of phase

[T_Tronix]

Well I ain't going to freakin spend more money on this...What kind of lnbs would I need to use in order to get high signals? I need 110, 129 and a circular for 118/119

[acidbaby]

110 and 129 are normal circulars and the 119/118 u need a circular with a low of 10750. ive done a bunch of those on just a normal 30 or 33 inch dish just put the 119/118 lnb on and lock it in good. then i ghetto rigged the other 2 next to the center lnb using a metel bar and screws. its a lot easier to rigup if u doing a 20 inch dish for 110 119 129 just use rubber bands or zapstraps and set your skew no need for extra brackets if u cheep. the rubber bands do tend to crack and break over time and for 129 depending on location u might need a 24 inch eliptical. its been a few years since i did any install so 129 might be better now. the t90 seems like a good dish but dont that need reverse lnbs or that might be something else i was thinking of.
btw best ive done is 4 lnbs 40 degrees of sats. anything past that on one dish always seems the outter lnbs suffer. it will work but u will have signal loss or no signal at all.

[T_Tronix]

What sat-finder did you use? I find using the receiver for locking the signal is a PITA...

[jvvh5897]

and those things are a pain to set up and require a special LNB as well to compensate for the polaritybeing 180 degrees out of phase

I've never heard of this as a problem of brackets and never had to use anything other than standard LNBs for catching multiple satelites with a single dish using off-axis positioning.

Receivers work just find as indicator. You might want to point the dish using a center LNB first and do your scans, then try to adjust off-axis LNBs to get the best signal possible--if the reciever signal meter does not do it for you, tune to a channel that you want to get and try to max it's catching of the signal.

[Terryl]

I think he was talking about the T-90 dish, with the secondary gregorian reflector, the R an L polarity's are reversed, L becomes R, and R becomes L.

This does not happen with a standard linear LNB.

[acidbaby]

i think invacom made those reverse polarity lnbs. btw longtime away for me ghow u all been whatsup jvvh long time no see

[T_Tronix]

Well the limesat does not always show the locked sat even though my sat finder is beeping that I caught something...I was thinking maybe there is an affordable sat finder that shows the locked sat name on an lcd or something...

[Terryl]

No, not an affordable one, that is why I hung onto my old CoolSat 5000, it makes a great sat finder.

This is the only one I have used, too bad I sold it long a go.


https://www.perfect-10.tv/marketing/birdog/

[T_Tronix]

Yeah saw that one, many praise it but its freakin expensive! What about this one: SatHero SH-200 for 140$.

I got a coolsat 5K maybe I should try it out...

[T_Tronix]

There is also Acutrac 22 Pro Dual Input Alignment Meter MK II but I am not sure if it displays the satellite
names or just signal strength

[Terryl]

Use the CoolSat, I use mine with a small portable TV set.

Works wonders, I set up as close to the dish as I can, that way your not running inside to read the receivers meters.

[T_Tronix]

So I finally had the chance to play with this satellite, got all 110/119,118/129 at 85% or higher with the bracket supplied with the ROC dish.

I used a Coolsat 5K for signal testing, best results I found...revived it from the dead lol