what switch to use for 5 or 6 sats and 3 or 4 receivers?

[popol]

Hey guys,

curently have 4 sats (4 coax cables coming from dick plus dish, same as dick 1000) and 2 boxes. I'm suing a DPP44 and a power inserter and everything is working like a charm...but I'm thinking of adding a couple more sats (using a new dish) and one or two more boxes...I have an extra DP34, but I don't think it'll help...I believe I will need a single switch 5x4 or 6x4 switch to setup this up correctly... Can someone please recommend an affordable switch to achieve what I'm trying to do? I've found this,
http://www.allstarwholesales.com/details.php?id=154 but I'm not sure it'll work for Dick 1000 LNBs or would it?

Thanks

[nixon_r]

That switch is only good for 2 orbital positions. Depending on what type of LNBs you will be using for your extra sats you could use your DP34 and use 22k Ecoda switches to tie together the 2 switches, but you would have to use DP LNBs.

[popol]

That switch is only good for 2 orbital positions. Depending on what type of LNBs you will be using for your extra sats you could use your DP34 and use 22k Ecoda switches to tie together the 2 switches, but you would have to use DP LNBs.

Thanks for your response bro! For now, I plan on adding a true FTA dish 97W with a universal lnb, but I'm not sure I understand the scheme you've suggested. what do you mean by "use your DP34 and use 22k Ecoda switches to tie together the 2 switches" you mean tie the DPP44 outputs (Out1 & Out2) and DP34 outputs (Out1' & Out2') to the IN1, IN2, IN3 & IN4 of a 22Khz Ecoda switch, then take 2 outputs of the ecoda switch directly to the two boxes? I'm confused bro...Is there a schematic/diagram that shows how to set this up? THX

[nixon_r]

I don't have a diagram now but I can work on it if you want..
Basically you take one output from the DPP44 and connect it to one side of an Ecoda 22KHz switch, take one output from the DP34 switch and connect it to the other side of the Ecoda 22KHz switch. Take the output from the 22KHZ switch and connect it to the LNB in on your receiver.. watch lots of TV.

Hope this helps some.. if you want a dia let me know..

[popol]

I don't have a diagram now but I can work on it if you want..
Basically you take one output from the DPP44 and connect it to one side of an Ecoda 22KHz switch, take one output from the DP34 switch and connect it to the other side of the Ecoda 22KHz switch. Take the output from the 22KHZ switch and connect it to the LNB in on your receiver.. watch lots of TV.

Hope this helps some.. if you want a dia let me know..

Nixon, As you know (if you're using DPP44 to power-up 4 LNBs and enabling two receivers) the DPP44 has 3 outputs (1st for box1, 2nd for box2, and 3rd for power inserter), hence, when you say "take one output from the DPP44 and connect it to one side of an Ecoda 22KHz switch" what about the other outputs (at least that of box2) where does it go?? Can you clarify please thanks Man!

[Terryl]

Hey guys,

curently have 4 sats (4 coax cables coming from dick plus dish, same as dick 1000) and 2 boxes. I'm suing a DPP44 and a power inserter and everything is working like a charm...but I'm thinking of adding a couple more sats (using a new dish) and one or two more boxes...I have an extra DP34, but I don't think it'll help...I believe I will need a single switch 5x4 or 6x4 switch to setup this up correctly... Can someone please recommend an affordable switch to achieve what I'm trying to do? I've found this,
http://www.allstarwholesales.com/details.php?id=154 but I'm not sure it'll work for Dick 1000 LNBs or would it?

Thanks

No, that switch is for using two legacy LNB's, look at the inputs, they say 13V and 18V, this is for switching between dedicated outputs on the legacy LNB's.

To do what you want is not possible with DP44 switches, 3x4 switches and 22 KHz switches, the Dish 1000 LNB does not play well with other types of switches.

It would be best to go with all DP dual output LNB's, or standard LNB's and then look at a switch from EMP, something like the one I posted below.


http://www.emp-centauri.cz/products.php?id_kateg=5&id_pkateg=12&id=230

However your receiver will have to use Diseqc 1.1 commands to run more then 4 LNB's when using this switch, Diseqc 1.1 will let you use up to 16 LNB's, check your receivers manual for information on if it's capable to do this or not.

[nixon_r]

Here is a diagram I found that might help explain this.

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[popol]

Thanks Guys...I'll give it a shot!!! but the lnbs I have right now are different (see attachment) The one I want to add is a universal lnb for FTA dishes. THX

[nixon_r]

Ok, let me get this straight. You have an existing dish 1000+ (110, 118/119, 129) and you are wanting to add a universal LNB to the mix and have it distributed to 3 or 4 receivers. You have a DPP44 with power inserter and a DP34, if you had mentioned the universal LNB in you first post it would have made things easier, I thought you wanted to add more circular LNBs.
Anyhow, that is all behind now....would you happen to have a linear LNB to use instead of the universal? The reason for asking is that using a universal LNB limits you as to a switch type to use, you can't use 22KHz switches with universal LNBs.
You will need a 3x4 multiswitch and several sw21 switches, you can only connect 3 receivers this way as a sw21 will mess up the port with the power inserter. Connect the universal to the 3x4 mulltiswitch, connect a output of the multiswitch to one side of a sw21 switch, connect an output from the DPP44 (not port 1) to the other side of the sw21 switch now take the output of the sw21 and connect it to your receiver, do the same thing for the other 2 receivers.

[popol]

Thanks Nixon. I'll try what you've suggested and let you know...but I think I have to use the universal lnb to get 97W. THX

[tuyo]

A SW-21 with DPP LNB's, hmm that is interesting.

[nixon_r]

What other choice is there to use, a 22k isn't going to work with the universal LNB, that is why I asked about using a linear LNB.

[Terryl]

I think it would be better to scrap the DP LNB's and go with all standard types, then he can use standard 3x4 Diseqc switches and 22 KHz switches without any possible switching headaches, then the linear LNB (you don't need a universal for 97W, any linear will do) can be easily interfaced into the system.

[Terryl]

Here is a drawing to help out.

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