hi costa how are you man need to ask for help again

[BRI40]

costa i need to ask you that i dont undestand nothing about azimuth and elevation. and polarity heres my question how do i know my dish is getting the proper azimuth and and elevation and polarity, i need carfully to undestand this stuff cause am just learning my meter can read azimuth and and elevation and polarity. i have my dish now on 110 quality 98 percent i did not use any elevation. i was just messing with it i get 98 percent quality on tranponder 12229 like to me every time i go on it. some tranponder dont have signal am little bit to scan most of the channel some wont show up dont forget my dish is prime focus 6 feet lnb dmx 741 standar 10750. i dont undestand clearly about azimuth and elevation. thats right i need you help to explain to me how do i input those setting after many days bad weather am back again on the dish. i think i carefully need to undestand azimuth and elevation and also how do i know my dish is set on 90 degress rotation. i do have evrything am getting very confused cause the other day whend i went to the dish i found 119 and 110 in the same spot .all i was doing by bring donw and up the dish to found 110--119 please explain to me how do i imput azimuth and elevation why i can found 110 98 percent quality so whend i keep messing with the dish some tranponder not showing signal. how you can explain to me about azimuth and elevation let me know thanks by the way i did not use the motor actuator yet ect thanks

[Costactc]

You need to find your true south sat first. Input your coordinates here and you can see where your azimuth and elevation should be:



http://www.dishpointer.com/

[BRI40]

hello costa thank you how do i know my true south i dont undestand anything about true south i heard about it how do i point my dish from true south ect am getting 98 percent quality on tranponder 12224 on 110 very good quality can you explain please about the true south this one is really confusing me i know you can help me with my true south is there any way you can explain it thank you am just learning man please be patient with me thank you

[BRI40]

hello costa my lattitude 42.6 longitude 71.2 elevation 27.3 azimuth 229 all this get me confuse i know i how about latitude and longitude now i nees to know how do i point to my sat true south let me know thanks

[Costactc]

Where are you located? According to those coordinates, you are around the Wilmington, Mass. area. If that's the case then your true south sat will be the same one I use- Amc6 at 72w. The NBC feeds tp is the best one to use on that sat and normally scans in at about 99% signal quality:

12055 V 6890

Once you have your southern sat scanned in then we need to find your extreme east and west sats.

[BRI40]

good morning costa yes am 20 minute from from wilmington mass so you want me to look for amc 6 by the way man do i have to look for this one how can i find it costa in case i find what should i do next just ask in case if i find am going out today on it again thanks for geting back toi me let me know thanks

[Costactc]

Go to dishpointer and insert your info and click on Amc6 at 72w and try to scan in the NBC tp that I posted in previous post. Once you get your southern sat then we will try for your furthest eastern and western sats. You may need to adjust the elevation along the way or loosen up the mount bolts and slightly move the dish east or west. Get back to me when you get some signal quality at 72w.

[Terryl]

OK first off, you need the dish to be aligned to DUE South or it wont track the satellites correctly.

Go back to the dish pointer.com site and enter your street address, then zoom in as close as you can to where your mounting the dish, then select the Due South/North selection in the satellite list, this will give you a line on a map showing you where due South is at your location, use one of the landmarks on the map to line up the dish to due South.

Take a look at this photo, it will give you an idea as to what you need to do. (click on it to enlarge it)(you can also use a compass to find the due South, it shows the magnetic bearing also)

14757

Once your dish is set to due South tighten all Azimuth adjustments down, you can then set the elevation to what is needed for your location, then you can look for the 72 West satellite.(this would be your due South satellite, used for the start of your satellite tracking, everything will be East or West of this satellite, as far as your receiver is concerned)

Once you have done this your dish will be able to track the arc of the satellites correctly.


Opppps Costa's too fast for me today.....:yes:

[jvvh5897]

i get 98 percent quality on tranponder 12229 like to me every time i go on it. some tranponder dont have signal

Well, some of the transponders are spot beams and will not have signal to your area. It might be that your setup is just fine.

[BRI40]

hello okay you guys are awesome i was out little bit i wil start put my hand on it whend i get result i will be back guys in know it bewont now thank you

[Terryl]

He should use TP 12457R to find 119W, it's a CONUS beam and it has the Dish FYI channel on it (CH #101) it's an open channel.

[chifut]

Is n't the setting for 110&119 LNB -11250,not 10750

[Terryl]

Yes for the Circular LNB's it is 11250, he is using a DMX741, the DMX741 uses the 10750 LO frequency.......Oh.....Wait.....A DMX741.....Duuuu me stupid...


You can't get the Dish Nutworks satellites (61.5, 72.7, 77, 110, 119, 129) nor the BEV satellites (82, 91) with the DMX741 LNB, it is a lo "Ku" band LNB, it works from 11.7 to 12.2 GHz, not from 12.2 to 12.7 GHz, you need a standard high "Ku" band LNB (12.2 to 12.7 GHz) for those satellites.

Speck's on that LNB can be found here,
http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/S/DMX741-CKU-LNBF.htm

Thanks Chifut, it got me thinking right....

[BRI40]

hello guys before i dont have any problem found 110 118 119 i found those easy i cant found amc 6 the lnb work very well on ku i havent try c band yet why so hard to found amc 6 guys i dont undestand anything about the map i did not put my street address yet am geting confused now am trying very hard to get amc 6 this i heard is not easy can you teach me or show me how to read the map i will go to dish pointer put my address definitely i know i can do it i need more practice to acheve my goal whend i type someone will learn also i have also a suunto compass am not sure how to use it i like doing this for me is a hobby this thing really confuse i plug meter not a clue quality is showing up i can found 110 118 in a second and 119 the rest is urge i will keep playing with it someone need to learn let me know guys thank you

[BRI40]

okay guys i did finally add my street address on dish pointer i can see where the location is i still need more help since am not getting noting yet i wanna learn this thing very suave clean out after many years i spend alot of money on those thing if you have fta receiver you need to learn if someone can do it you can do it too nothing is too hard to learn if you smart as i promess i will find hope mean hope and i hope someone else do like i do

[Costactc]

Bri, I hope your using your lnbf to try and locate Amc6. The lnb you use for 110 or 119 will not work for a linear sat like Amc6.

[BRI40]

hi costa i check online their said the dmx 741 is a lnb and lnbf is that make a diffrence what should i do can you please let me know what if put the dieletric inside i was looking for amc 6 no sign of can you let me know thank let me know thanks

[chifut]

Tell us what satellie do you want to hit /AMC 6 or 110 119 /with your 6 foot BUD . Did you hear about the capital letters and commas??/
PS...Terry geting older because of you ...heheheh.j/k

[Costactc]

Bri you need to be using your 741 lnbf for Amc 6 at 72w without the plate. I'm not quite sure what you were using to catch signals at 110w or 119w because that lnbf will not work on those circular sats. Make sure your coax wire goes into the one at the back which is ku, the one on top is for c band.

[Terryl]

Tell us what satellie do you want to hit /AMC 6 or 110 119 /with your 6 foot BUD . Did you hear about the capital letters and commas??/
PS...Terry geting older because of you ...heheheh.j/k

The only way I can get any older is for them to start a new EON, right after this one...........NYUK NYUK NYUK

[BRI40]

hello costa i get 110 118 119 with the lnbf dmx 741 is cku do you think i will get amc 6 with this lnb dmx 741 can you please let me know thanks

[Costactc]

How can you be getting signal from 110,118 and 119 with a linear lnbf? I'm puzzled.

[chifut]

Actualy,my universal Spitfire/10600/ pull me some Nimiq chns on 91W,scramble ofcourse

[Costactc]

Actualy,my universal Spitfire/10600/ pull me some Nimiq chns on 91W,scramble ofcourse

I've pulled in tp as well on a scan of 91w before but technically it shouldn't be possible.

[BRI40]

hi costa this lnb work for all sat for 110-119 standar 10750 22 k on for 118 universal later

[chifut]

Do you have any chns .on 118w??

[BRI40]

hi chifuff yes i was able to scan 118 last week now am in the middle looking for amc 6 to point my dish true south amc 6 this one aint easy i get very good signal on 118 whend you on 119 pull the dish very little east you will get 118 few degree amc 6 is killing me i dont have any problem at all locking 119 and 110 i have two meter i just bought a new meter fast align 5110 lexium i hear alot of beep not a clue quality on amc 6 yes i told you i get very good channel on 118 this lnb is lnb and lnbf design for c and ku later man

[BRI40]

chiffut is a trick to get 118 at very good quality you use universal 10600 this should bring it in a minute very good quality on 118 later

[BRI40]

hello guys just what costa has said the dmx 741 standard will not work for 72 amc 6 the one will work is dmx 741u universal alleluia in confusion oh that crazy i were told today it will not work jezz thank you costa and the others

[Costactc]

Standard and universal lnb will work on Amc6 at 72w as long as your settings are correct.

[BRI40]

hello costa how are you is there any other satellite i can use to make my dish dish traking all the satellite i heard this one is very hard amc6 72 cause most channel is mpeg4 what setting should be correct for the dish also am looking track all sat from amazona to 123 let me know thanks

[Costactc]

Actually Bri the tp I gave you for Amc6 is sd, it's the NBC feeds. Why don't you give the Chinese channels on Galaxy3 at 95w:

11780 H 20760

Even on a small dish this tp should scan in at 99% signal quality.

[BRI40]

hello costa how are you am unable to find amc6 72 i i like to ask you if i can use 77 ow for my true south i just ask can you please tell me me please if i can use 77 ow for true south thank you

[Costactc]

You can use 77w for your true south Bri if you want but if your not able to get signal quality on Amc6 then you are not on the arc. Have you thought of trying c band? There is a vey stron tp on Galaxy17 at 91w:

3920 H 26000

[BRI40]

hi costa how are you let me told you no matter where i turn the dish am not getting any quality beside 110 119 no quality on 72 amc 6 not a clue i have been trying for long time the most signal i get on my meter is 73 percent signal not a clue quality not sure why i heard this sat is hard to get am gonna try ga 91 c band the tranponder you gave me am out luck what more can i do let me know costa thanks

[Costactc]

If your using a dish of that size and only getting signal quality from strong circular sats and nothing on the linear ones, I would suggest calling in a professional installer.

[chifut]

When your Longitude is 71,2, That is your True south, YOU CAN NOT change it to 110 'cause the arc will be OFF

[BRI40]

hi costa hello how are you i found quality on 93.1 sat tranponder 11780 30000 what i should do now can you please tell me what now can i do let me know thanks wating for you man thank you let me know

[chifut]

hi bri40 on 93 satdoyouhavesattransponder12002v3649ornothisismexi cantv nextstepistofound72w

[BRI40]

hi i have to found this one can i use 93.1 tranponder 11780 this what i ask thank you

[chifut]

I'm not sure 11780/30000 is from 93w..I don't have that transponder on 93.1w .But if you have signal quality on 12002v 3649 and have Mexican chnl.,you are abveosly on 93.1w

[BRI40]

Can i use true south on this sat 93.1 is it possible let me know thanks

[Costactc]

True south can only be used on your actual true south sat. You didn't mention wether it was H or V polarity- I checked every ku sat from Amc6 at 72w to Ses1 at 101w and came up with nothing for 11780 30000.

[BRI40]

costa if you look in lyngsat on 93.0 thi tranponder is there this frequency is for hugness internet take look again 93 ku ban thanks

[Terryl]

I think we need to explain things a bit.

"Due" or "True" "South",

This is how the dish is first setup and aligned to the Clark belt, it must face Due/True South (180 degrees) or it wont follow the arc of satellites across the sky as you pan the dish East or West to look for other satellites, Due or True South is always 180 degrees South at your location, this can be found at dishpointer.com, it will give you a map with a line on it pointing to due or true South.(just select that in the satellite listings)

Now for your "True South satellite".

This is a satellite located as close to Due or True South from your location, in your case it would be AMC 6 at 72W (181 degrees) no other satellite will do for this, as it is your starting point or reference satellite.

Once your aligned correctly all the other satellites will be able to be tracked in without any big problems.

Some of the others with a "C" band dish will have to see what active transponders are on AMC-6 for "C" band, this will help you in finding the right starting satellite.

[Terryl]

costa if you look in lyngsat on 93.0 thi tranponder is there this frequency is for hugness internet take look again 93 ku ban thanks


Some receivers will not be able to pick up that transponder, it is for internet modems.(It is a data only transponder)

[Costactc]

I think we need to explain things a bit.

"Due" or "True" "South",

This is how the dish is first setup and aligned to the Clark belt, it must face Due/True South (180 degrees) or it wont follow the arc of satellites across the sky as you pan the dish East or West to look for other satellites, Due or True South is always 180 degrees South at your location, this can be found at dishpointer.com, it will give you a map with a line on it pointing to due or true South.(just select that in the satellite listings)

Now for your "True South satellite".

This is a satellite located as close to Due or True South from your location, in your case it would be AMC 6 at 72W (181 degrees) no other satellite will do for this, as it is your starting point or reference satellite.

Once your aligned correctly all the other satellites will be able to be tracked in without any big problems.

Some of the others with a "C" band dish will have to see what active transponders are on AMC-6 for "C" band, this will help you in finding the right starting satellite.

Amc6 on c band has only one active tp with the exceptions of feeds:

3937 V 2825
480i
Mpeg-4
Ac3

You'll need an hd receiver for this one.

[Terryl]

Ahhh bummer, but there is an NBC mux up on Ku band.

I get a good signal on TP12055V with an S/R of 6890 and a FEC of 5/6, it looks to be an active feed right now.


I will look for the test pattern, but it looks like MSNBC is on the rest of the channels on that TP.

[BRI40]

hello coasta how are you here what did i take my 31 inches dish not the c band one. i take my 31 inches dish point it to 72w amc 6 i i add frequency 12055 -6890 i was able to get signal on my small dish. i use diffrent receiver no signal show up i try my old coolsat 7000 i was able to scan tranponder 12055-6890 .before i forgot i have two meter costa i remove the lnb cable plug it in the meter one of my meter show no signal ,one of them i was able to read quality i havent try the big dish yet cause supose to rain here most of the week .today is monday i was kiling myself in a lithum pro 5110 sat meter where no signal show up what i did i use my satlink 6906 meter bam m quality show up. man you were right about this frequency i was able to scan it on my coolsat 7000 .i try sonicview no quality show up on them my small dish 31 inches already told me where to point the big c band dish/ something you dont know is more than you costa .i was killing myself on this meter lithum sat meter 5110 pro it will never get it i i just use my satlink 6906 bingo i think this meter maybe need to donwload some sat list. cant wait to try again now seen to me i know where to point the the big band dish costa later man thank you

[Costactc]

Awesome news Bri, you finally know where your south sat is so when you try your big dish yous hould be seeing some signal quality. I only use older sd receivers outdoors like my old pansat and coolsat stbs. I can't wait to hear your results.

[Terryl]

Great news Bri40, now that your on the arc, things will fall into place.

I use an old CoolSat 5000 to tune up my dishes, never did like satellite meters.

At my old job we used a special spectrum analyzer to find the satellites, but you don't want to know the price tag for the one we used, you could pay off a good chunk of your mortgage with that.

[BRI40]

thnak you guys it suppose to rain all week long guys canit wait to try again now becarfull guys with all kind of meter you buy night not pick up quality on some sat i will let you know thanks

[BRI40]

hello costa and terryl heres some news i got i point my dish over 72w amc not sure if i got the correct sat i use frenquency 12055 v 6890 am using a satlink meter with screen tv i was able to scan it but i got 2 spanish channel their was playing in my meter hope is amc 6 it was getting dark with bad weather am sure has to be this one because i dont have time to adjust the quality hope tomorrow i will try to adjust the quality on my actuator i never get any free channel spanish am sure is amc 6 but not yet guys look wonderfull terryl costa you give very good help thank you guys this post will help many people later

[BRI40]

hello costa how are you am getting two spanish channel both is sport channel is in spanish on the frequency 12055 v 6890 now am confuse i can only see those two channel on my meter not on my reciever coolsat 7000 now am confuse can you give to spme id please costa thank you let me know

[Costactc]

If your on Amc 6 at 72w that tp should scan in 4 NBC feeds not Spanish sport channels, I'm not quite sure what sat you are on but lot's of Spanish channels on 97w and especially 99w.

[BRI40]

hello costa how are you man i found a japoness news channel on c band transponder 4040 am not sure yet if this one is amc 6 72 c band on transponder 4040 c band it was playing on my meter i beleve this channel name is NRR on tranponder 4040 amc 6 not sure on tranponder 12055 i was try to pull out quality wont come big it was getting dark i dont have time to pull out as much quality on on this sat costa man am trying hard making experience do you think this channel is amc6 cband tranponder 4040 thanks let me know whend you could thanks

[BRI40]

hello costa how are you the tv channel i found is nhk tv not nrr not sure with one is this on frequency 4040 let me know thanks

[BRI40]

hello costa i found nbc mux is 4 channel man what now i have to do is playing on my meter i found it costa can you please tell me what do do thanks

[iq180]

i have been reading all of this and was thinking what would i do to fix this.
i dont know what kind of dish mover you have but its all the same thing, first thing i would do is to set the dish mover and the dish
to =0= then with a compus set everthing to south on the pole and then look for my true south sat, but that is just the way i do it.

[BRI40]

i found amc 6 72 w now hope am good to go wating for mister costa how to tight the belt costa is the best 5 star for him and terryl also

[Costactc]

Good to hear BRI, by the way NHK is on Intelsat 9 at 58w. Finally some success. Have a look at Lyngsat, I would suggest c band since it's easier- go 1 sat at a time until you get to the end of your arc then go back to 72w and go east till your arc is complete. Try to max out your southern and far western and eastern sats.
As you go 1 sat at a time, push down and up on the dish to see if you need to adjust your elevation. You may also need to loosen the the screws that has your mount on the pole and slightly move dish east or west but mark the original spot so that you can go back in case your quality goes down. Good Luck.

[BRI40]

hello costa i tell you i found amc6 72w you did not answer my last question well i found amc 6 what should i do now with amc 6 72 w thanks

[chifut]

With the small dish or with the big one ?

[Costactc]

hello costa i tell you i found amc6 72w you did not answer my last question well i found amc 6 what should i do now with amc 6 72 w thanks

Read my previous post.

[BRI40]

hello guys good morning i just wanna tell you guys not all reciever will give you quality on amc 6 72w beside you can use a old coolsat 7000 i get quality 98 percent on amc 6 i have a question what reciever i can use to get amazonas cband did amazonas sat need file to work guys costa do you think after i found amc 6 do you think the c band sat will just work only thing left to do is too tight screw3 on the post i get quality 98 percent someone please confirm how c band sat work on fta boxes i onw many of them need more info bout amazonas sat thank you

[BRI40]

hello costa now i really need you help again after looking for amc 6 now am dealing with a problem dish will not track all the sat my last sat is 72 amc 6 i cant go no more farter than 72 amc 6 my motor is powertech actuator okay am confuse i think i give up i dont see anywhow this motor will track rest from the sat going west this is crazy huh hope you give some if thanks

[Costactc]

Best bet to get most out of the arc is have the arm out only a couple of inches when setting your motor limits on the eastern side, extend the arm as far as it will go without having the dish drop to set up your west limit. Amazonas is a tough sat to scan in on c band, I barely get it with a 10' dish.

[BRI40]

cost am dealing with two issues right now my first problem the guys who come on the dish before was an installer the pole have too much space to tight the signal on amc 6 my other worst problem the nut on the axis is only one nut it cant keep up look like to me is bend whend am moving the dish am try to figure out how to can i correct those two problem costa if you have any id please let me know thanks

[BRI40]

hello costa how are you i need little bid help from you my dish is is 6 feet prime focus whend i move the dish from 72 amc 6 going east whend i move it back it goes back on amc 6 ,72 and it stop there can you please tell me please give me some id why this happen costa what is the last sat for me to reach from east to west am talking about the actuator move back on 72 amc 6 and it seat there please help costa thank you let me know am sure you can give to me some id thank you have nice day later

[BRI40]

hello anyone willing wanna help thanks problem look to move dish to west not sure why this happening terryl help me thanks actuator goes back on amc 6 72w thanks please help thank you

[Costactc]

What type of positioner are you using? I would suggest resetting your limits.

[BRI40]

hi coasta thank you am using a g box positioner i wil try to deploy my actuator all the way to east asnd go back to west see what it can do thanks

[BRI40]

hello costa how are you am still dealing with the same issues with the motor so let me explain well for you undestand whend i move the motor with my gbox the dish move i cannot get it track the whole arc the head from the actuator stuck on amc 6 theres no way i cant get it track let me ask that did the dish suppose to tack the satellite 30w to 123 galaxy 18 i just ask please if you can answer that please the head from the metal on the actuator stuck on 72 theres no way it can pass go either or west this really getting me confuse i reset my postion is not the problem my problem is to get the dish track all the sat did i suppose to open the actuator all way to west okay mister costa please let me know thank my problem now is to get whole thing track well it wont track well let me know thank

[Costactc]

Ok Bri, I'm not sure how much of the arc you are tracking? I need to know what sat you are starting off at to the east, maybe Hispasat at 30w or Telstar 12 at 15w. Once we establish that I will tell you what to do but you will need somebody outside to hold the dish when you loosen the actuator.

[Terryl]

Maybe a photo of his mount would help?

He might have the actuator mounted in the wrong place.

[Costactc]

Maybe a photo of his mount would help?

He might have the actuator mounted in the wrong place.

That would probably be the best Terryl. Eh Bri, how about a pic of your mount?

[BRI40]

hi cost how are you i will send a pic but not today just give time man thanks

[Costactc]

No problem Bri. What is your most easterly sat?

[BRI40]

hello costa how can i send the pic to you i have the pic how can i send it to you thanks

[Terryl]

You can post it here, look at the top of the "Quick Reply" you will see a globe to the right, the 3rd from the end is the "Insert an Image" button.

[Terryl]

Like this one......15617

[Costactc]

You can also go advanced and attach it.

[BRI40]

hi costa how are you man sorry for the delay cause i was buzy here the pic from my dish so you let me know thanks thank you man15642

[Costactc]

That looks fine to me Bri, although I would add a few washers. I notice that your arm is full inward, what satellite is it pointing to? My 8' solid is pointing at Galaxy 19 at 97w and you can see how far extended my actuator is in this picture:


15643

[BRI40]

hi costa how are you i point it on amc 6 72 w i move the dish with my hand on amazonas 1 i get only two channel on amzona 1 so let me me ask you that is there any good qulity on amazonas 1 okat you tell me for me add a washers what is a washers costa can you please explain i cant get the motor track the arc thi is make me thinking what next i have to do i point it on 72w amc 6 thanks

[Costactc]

Washers are spacers Bri. They will keep your dish more solid and all your bolts will stay tighter that way. I know where you live Bri so this is my suggestion. Have somebody hold the dish and remove the top bolt from the actuator. Manually move the dish till you get Hispasat at 30w, then move it slightly east and reconnect the motor. Go to your vbox and reset all limits with that being your eastern limit. Move the dish as far west as you can in order to establish your western limit, be careful not to go to far as you might warp the dish.

[BRI40]

hi costa how are you i did read you last post i havent try yet i have a very important question to ask i read on something from another forum dont want want to say the name their said the motor supose to be on the right side recomend in order to track the whole arc costa am sorry cause i ask so much i have tell you i have my motor on the left side so i wanna ask you first do you think it make any diffrence put the motor on the right side so before i try anything i ask you cause you know more than me their said the motor sould be on the right side so do you think i can try that so let me know my dish only track 72w to 137 let me know thanks

[Costactc]

Both my actuators are on the left Bri.

[BRI40]

thank you costa i will figured out thanks man alot

[Terryl]

I can't really see by your photo BRI40, but it looks like the actuator is not mounted right, if the dish was at the center of it's travel the there should be about half of the actuators internal arm showing.(the part that moves the dish)

It looks to me that it is fully retracted, if it is fully retracted and that is the center of travel for the dish then you will be missing out on 1/2 of your arc.

If it is mounted correctly, then it should be almost fully retracted for due East (or as far East as it can go) then almost fully extended for due West, (or as far west as it can go, then with the dish dead center, it would be half way on the travel of the actuator arm.

Is that the actuator that came with that dish, or did you buy a new one?

If you bought a new one then it could be too short to allow full travel on the dish.

[BRI40]

hello terryl how are you i need to ask again about the actuator please. the size of my dish is 240 cemeter the size of my actuator is 24 inch , i put the actuator in the right size seen to me it only track 30w to 72w whend it was on the left size it only track 72w to 139w both side has a limit do you think i need a bigger actuator just in case i i reset limit it wont cross to 139w can you please tell me if i need a bigger actuator please theres no way it will track all the arck last limit is 72 w if yes if i need a bigger actuator tell me what size i need please thank you terryl

[Costactc]

Your actuator is fine Bri, you do not need a 36". I have told you in previous posts on how to reset your limits on your positioner and your motor outside. I'm arcing 15-123w on ku band and 11-127w on c band with 24" VonWeise actuators.