Cotto vs. Mayweather II on 12/1 in Madison Square Garden?

[Gamer]

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By Dan Ambrose: A rematch between former WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto and Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a strong possibility for December 1st at New York’s Madison Square Garden, according to fightnews.com. Apparently, the Garden has already been booked up for the fight.
It makes a lot of sense for Mayweather to agree to the Cotto rematch, because he made an awful lot of money in the fight from the pay-per-view sales as well as the large gate. The fight was close and that didn’t sit right with Mayweather, who felt he could have done better had he boxed Cotto instead of slugging it out the way that he did.
Apart from Cotto, Mayweather’s options for another opponent for 2012 aren’t as good. Saul Alvarez is already fighting on September 15th, Pacquiao will be facing either Tim Bradley or Juan Manuel Marquez in November. Victor Ortiz was just beaten by Josesito Lopez. Amir Khan still is coming off of a poor performance in his loss to Lamont Peterson, and he’s also not a big name in the U.S.
Mayweather-Cotto will be another fight and can’t see anything touching it in terms of matching the buys that it brings in. The Mayweather-Cotto I fight brought in 1.5 million buys, which are really good numbers.
Cotto also turned down a fight offer from Golden Boy Promotions for a September 15th fight against WBC junior middleweight champion Saul Alvarez.
c/p

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2012/06/cotto-vs-mayweather-ii-on-121-in-madison-square-garden/#more-121408

[rokko]

never going to happen--when was the last time floyd had a fight somewhere other than vegas--he doesnt have the stones to fight in a hostile environment--nevada lets him use lidocaine on his hands. lidocaine is banned in most states

[Fibroso]

Cotto is all over the Puerto Rican press talking about his Dic 1st fight. He had mention that the opponent will be chosen soon, "ups there it is". PBF coming out of the joint to fight Miguel Cotto in MSG. This will be a Classic PPV.

[rudee]

i don't think it will happen either...first fight was not really THAT close...
Floyd the obvious winner!
Why is Cotto turning down Canelo??????

[Fibroso]

i don't think it will happen either...first fight was not really THAT close...
Floyd the obvious winner!
Why is Cotto turning down Canelo??????
Obviously, PBF is more of an attraction and huge payday. Canelo wants Cotto so he can have a big payday, since Cotto is the PPV atraction. Canelo wont fight Cotto at MSG. No one has put gloves over PBF's face like the paisano did.

[Gamer]

i don't think it will happen either...first fight was not really THAT close...
Floyd the obvious winner!
Why is Cotto turning down Canelo??????

Bigger payday out there than Canelo and Cotto deserves the rematch if he wants as he was the defending champ at 154.It's about the money bud.

[Condor]

But If it were to happen.........Cotto put up a great fight against PBF the first go around... The only problem with Cotto is he runs out of gas in the latter rounds.. If he works on that I would love to see them go at it again...It it were to happen...........

[Gamer]

But If it were to happen.........Cotto put up a great fight against PBF the first go around... The only problem with Cotto is he runs out of gas in the latter rounds.. If he works on that I would love to see them go at it again...It it were to happen...........

Actually he looked pretty good in the last rounds of this fight.He trained well and was comfortable making weight. This fight will probably happen as Bob Arum is not involved anymore with Cotto.Much easier to work out a deal.

[rudee]

Probably right boys! But don't know if Floyd wants to take anymore hard punches from Cotto like he did.
Too many more easier paychecks out there..
But geez,,,Cotto vs Canelo would have all of Mexico and PR and half the USA watching!!!
You could put that in Dallas.. close to PR and Mexico... hell,,, half of Texas is Mexican!
I would say it would draw very very well.
Easy payday for Fib's and Ramon's paisano!
If Miguel don't grab Canelo,,, Floyd will! either one will box his ears off.

[Fibroso]

Cotto will eventually take on Canelo, first he will get a couple of rematches he's got under the skin. Pacquiao's is one of them. PBF will give him the rematch in the Big Apple since Cotto fought in Vegas and exposed his 154 belt. Then he will try to get Pac to fight him, Canelo will come next. Remember, Cotto is the man now. jejeje

[rudee]

Thats if Canelo doesn't get beat in the meantime...
PR vs Messican matchup would light up the sky...
Canelo and Chavez are heros in Mexico... even bigger than Marquez..
Its called YOUTH!
Been looking everywhere... do not see anything about Cotto vs Floyd rematch..
Post something concrete Fib...

[Fibroso]

Thats if Canelo doesn't get beat in the meantime...
PR vs Messican matchup would light up the sky...
Canelo and Chavez are heros in Mexico... even bigger than Marquez..
Its called YOUTH!
Been looking everywhere... do not see anything about Cotto vs Floyd rematch..
Post something concrete Fib...
Keep looking, when you find it, post it in this thread, we already have two threads talking about the same topic.
Cotto's Promotions together with GBP are planning a some events on the island. Then, will go international with some interesting events where you will see PR against Mex go at it "duro". We have some very good young blood down here, Oscar lives here and he is interested in making some cash so just wait a bit. amigo

[dslchome]

never going to happen--when was the last time floyd had a fight somewhere other than vegas--he doesnt have the stones to fight in a hostile environment--nevada lets him use lidocaine on his hands. lidocaine is banned in most states

Yes, Im glad you know about this, b.c most Mayweather fans do not know, Mayweather Cheats.
Plus Did you know about Ephedrine aka Adrenalin they mix... People need to wake up about Mayweather...
Perhaps this post will wake them up.....


The reason Mayweather only fights in Vegas is b.c NSAC allows Xylocaine (a banned substance in 49 States except Nevada)

You can even see them talk about it on HBO

If Mayweather was to fight Pacquiao in Dallas, he would not be allowed to use Xycocaine. Inside Boxing wrote back in 2002, "Before the fight began, HBOs Jim Lampley and George Foreman discussed hand injuries with references to Floyds recent hand problems. They said that Mayweather has been known to use hand-injected painkillers like Xylocaine, which is illegal in some states. Such painkillers could be more dangerous in the long term, since fighters with numbed hands hit harder since they cannot
feel their hands,

You will see Mayweather admit to using this drug. It allows boxers to HIT as HARD as they can with no worries of pain. So if there hands hurt before the fight or not they can inject this drug and not have to worry about pain in they break thier hands.

Now if that is not sports enhancing drug I dont know what is.... This is why Mayweather will ONLY fight in VEGAS...

Before Mayweather was a super star he fought Carlos Hernandez in his Home Town Grand Rapids Michigan and they do not allow this drug, well it went 12 rounds and Carlos Hernandez was there to be KOed, I mean he was a good fighter but it was a Stinker of a fight and if you look at Mayweather fights He never faught a A level Fighter or even a B level fighter anyplace but Vegas.

2012-05-05 151 Miguel Cotto 154 37-2-0

MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 12 12

referee: Tony Weeks | judge: Robert Hoyle 118-110 | judge: Patricia Morse Jarman 117-111 | judge: Dave Moretti 117-111
WBA Super World light middleweight title (supervisor: Aurelio Fiengo)
vacant WBC Diamond light middleweight title


2011-09-17 146½ Victor Ortiz 147 29-2-2

MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W KO 4 12

time: 2:59 | referee: Joe Cortez | judge: Jerry Roth | judge: Adalaide Byrd | judge: Glenn Trowbridge
WBC welterweight title (supervisor: Jose Sulaiman)
Ortiz penalized 1 point in rd 4 for headbutt. Ortiz down rd 4.


2010-05-01 146 Shane Mosley 147 46-5-0

MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 12 12

referee: Kenny Bayless | judge: Dave Moretti 119-109 | judge: Robert Hoyle 118-110 | judge: Adalaide Byrd 119-109


2009-09-19 146 Juan Manuel Marquez 142 50-4-1

MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 12 12

referee: Tony Weeks | judge: Burt A. Clements 120-107 | judge: Dave Moretti 119-108 | judge: William Lerch 118-109
Marquez down once in 2nd round


2007-12-08 147 Ricky Hatton 145 43-0-0

MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 10 12

time: 1:35 | referee: Joe Cortez | judge: Paul Smith 88-82 | judge: Dave Moretti 89-81 | judge: Burt A. Clements 89-81
WBC welterweight title


2007-05-05 150 Oscar De La Hoya 154 38-4-0

MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W SD 12 12

referee: Kenny Bayless | judge: Chuck Giampa 116-112 | judge: Jerry Roth 115-113 | judge: Tom Kaczmarek 113-115
WBC light middleweight title


2006-11-04 146 Carlos Manuel Baldomir 147 43-9-6

Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 12 12

referee: Jay Nady | judge: Chuck Giampa 120-108 | judge: John Keane 120-108 | judge: Paul Smith 118-110
WBC welterweight title
International Boxing Organization welterweight title
International Boxing Association welterweight title


2006-04-08 146 Zab Judah 145½ 34-3-0

Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 12 12

referee: Richard Steele | judge: Glen Hamada 119-109 | judge: Dave Moretti 116-112 | judge: Jerry Roth 117-111
IBF welterweight title
vacant International Boxing Organization welterweight title

So for that last 6 years Mayweather Jr will only Fight in Vegas.... Why you ask???

Mayweather only fights in Vegas is b.c NSAC allows Xylocaine (a banned substance in 49 States except Nevada)


Now is that strange? or what do you think? the other 49 states other then Neveda dont feel Xylocaine is anyway of sports enhancing,, but if you use that drug in California or Texas or any other state in the USA, you will be fined and could get your boxing licence suspended for useing a banned subtance.

And what blows my mind,, Manny who will fight anyplace has never tested positive nor does he use Xylocaine...
Also Mayweather uses Epedrine

Its all here.

hxxp://www.examiner.com/article/pain-killers-and-hand-injuries-floyd-mayweather-jr

put tt in place of xx

Mayweather CHEATS... Point blank... Uses Lidocaine injectable


Read

injectable lidocaine aka Xycocaine can be combined with Epinephrine to reduce bleeding in a fighter. Epinephrine is often referred to as Adrenaline. If Lidocaine is combined with Epinephrine (Adrenaline), it not only reduces bleeding but can also stimulate a "fight or flight" response. (The Inside Boxing column only refers to the usage of Xylocaine, but if this drug is combined with Epinephrine, one can argue that it can provide a boxer with an advantage over a non-using opponent.)

Watch the You tube Video , ITs HBO, Jim Lampley... them talking about Xylocaine injection.

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ClscDd1Qvo

again replace xx with tt

I do not want to go on and on.. but think..

WHY DOES Mayweather fight in VEGAS ONLY Since he became a Superstar? Well b.c that is the only State in the United States of America that you can use this drug in boxing on fight night and its legal.

Crazy if you ask me... and Mayweather want all this blood from Manny when Mayweather can Inject his Hands with Pain Killers and use Ephedrine.

Its fairly Obvious if you ask me and I think if most people read this they will see the pattern and understand.

So for Mayeather to fight in New York at Madison Square Garden, that will never happen and if it does I think COTTO will beat Mayeather b.c Mayweather will not be able to CHEAT with his INJECTABLE PAIN KILLER DRUGS..... He will hit Cotto and his Hands will hurt like most boxers have to becarefull when they hit, they dont want to bust thier hands, So Maywather wont be able to keep Cotto off him and Cotto will destroy him.

However it dont matter, Mayweather will never FIGHT in New York....... Forget it.

Floyd Cheats.

[TLG]

it works both ways ,, mayweather opponents can take it in Vegas too
so that their hands don't hurt as they hit on mayweathers head ..

well,,, first they have to catch up to it, cause it moves so fast !!


poof poof ,,, these articles are put together by mayweather haters LOL !!!

[rokko]

December 1 may be Cotto's 160lb debut, not Mayweather rematch

Former three division world champion Miguel Cotto (37-3, 30KOs) is considering the possibility of a move to 160-pounds on December 1. Cotto's return could take place in New York's Madison Square Garden or a venue in Las Vegas.

All of the champions at 160-pounds are very big compared to the 5'7 Cotto. If possible, Cotto would attempt to get a catch-weight involved in the fight.

"It's a very attractive option for me. We're analyzing and studying to see if we can do it. Yes, it is a motivation, to become the first Puerto Rican champion to win titles in four weight divisions," Cotto told Jose Sanchez.

"I do not know (how high I could fight). Those are things to discuss in the negotiations."

One possible option is French boxer Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam (27-0, 17 KOs). N'Jikam is the WBO's interim-champion, but he is set to become the full champion once the current king Dmitry Pirog steps in the ring to fight WBA champion Gennady Golovkin in August.

N'Jikam's promoter told Sanchez they are interested in facing Cotto and the right amount of money could overcome any issues with the weight.

Although he was never actually mentioned to be in the running, Cotto is not even considering the possibility of facing WBC 154-pound champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez on September 15th in Las Vegas.

"September is not a possibility. I have plans with my family in July. Fighting in September would be disrupting the plans that I have with them and that is something that I will not do," Cotto said.

worldboxingnews.net/2012/...0lb-debut.html

[dslchome]

December 1 may be Cotto's 160lb debut, not Mayweather rematch

Former three division world champion Miguel Cotto (37-3, 30KOs) is considering the possibility of a move to 160-pounds on December 1. Cotto's return could take place in New York's Madison Square Garden or a venue in Las Vegas.

All of the champions at 160-pounds are very big compared to the 5'7 Cotto. If possible, Cotto would attempt to get a catch-weight involved in the fight.

"It's a very attractive option for me. We're analyzing and studying to see if we can do it. Yes, it is a motivation, to become the first Puerto Rican champion to win titles in four weight divisions," Cotto told Jose Sanchez.

"I do not know (how high I could fight). Those are things to discuss in the negotiations."

One possible option is French boxer Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam (27-0, 17 KOs). N'Jikam is the WBO's interim-champion, but he is set to become the full champion once the current king Dmitry Pirog steps in the ring to fight WBA champion Gennady Golovkin in August.

N'Jikam's promoter told Sanchez they are interested in facing Cotto and the right amount of money could overcome any issues with the weight.

Although he was never actually mentioned to be in the running, Cotto is not even considering the possibility of facing WBC 154-pound champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez on September 15th in Las Vegas.

"September is not a possibility. I have plans with my family in July. Fighting in September would be disrupting the plans that I have with them and that is something that I will not do," Cotto said.

worldboxingnews.net/2012/...0lb-debut.html

Cotto could fight Sergio Martinez at 154 or 160 or a catch weight b.c Martinez is really a Jr Middleweight...... and can make 150 very easy.

now that could be a good fight, b.c both guys bang!

Sergio however might fight Chavez Jr for WBC Title.

However what do you think about mayweather cheating using that drug that is banned in 49 states other then Nevada

I think its sports enhancing.

b.c many fighters will throw hard shots and when the pain in the hands start they will not throw the punches as hard.

Plus people can see now how Mayweather uses such great defense... he cant feel the punches from his Forearm up.

so when boxers bang his gloves and forearms Mayweather don't feel it.

Do you think Mayweather is abusing the Vegas RULE?
thats why he will only FIGHT in Vegas?

[dslchome]

it works both ways ,, mayweather opponents can take it in Vegas too
so that their hands don't hurt as they hit on mayweathers head ..

well,,, first they have to catch up to it, cause it moves so fast !!


poof poof ,,, these articles are put together by mayweather haters LOL !!!


However I think Mayweather defence is made to take them punches on the gloves and forearms as the drug runs up the arms via blood flow... So he dont feel the punches on the arms....

So I think he defense is tailor made for the DRUG he takes.

Did you ever think of that.........

also just b.c Mayweather does it don't mean the other guy does...... take the drugs....

Not all fighters have millons of $, so if they break thier hand they cant afford to fight 1 time a year or less.

Also the Adrenalin ... you never mentioned that..... Many fighters are afraid of DRUGS..... JUST SAY NO....

I know I do not like needles.

[Fibroso]

However I think Mayweather defence is made to take them punches on the gloves and forearms as the drug runs up the arms via blood flow... So he dont feel the punches on the arms....

So I think he defense is tailor made for the DRUG he takes.

Did you ever think of that.........

also just b.c Mayweather does it don't mean the other guy does...... take the drugs....

Not all fighters have millons of $, so if they break thier hand they cant afford to fight 1 time a year or less.

Also the Adrenalin ... you never mentioned that..... Many fighters are afraid of DRUGS..... JUST SAY NO....

I know I do not like needles.

If they want to beat the undefeated, they have to do something or they better just stay away. Haters always find an argument for losing. Others use Human growth hormone (HGH) and they say they are " afraid of needles "

[rokko]

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[dslchome]

If they want to beat the undefeated, they have to do something or they better just stay away. Haters always find an argument for losing. Others use Human growth hormone (HGH) and they say they are " afraid of needles "


he reminds me of Tyson some.... at first he was a respectful boxer and champion and now talks trash to sell tickets.

He wont Fight Manny...... I just do not like it.

I used to be a huge fan of Mayweather , I still think he is great but NOT the number 1 p4p

he ducks ppl.

also he lost to JL Castello I , It was a split Decsion and it was stil a Robbery and even HBO and others felt so.

Watch it on You tube

and the rematch was so close... I had it a Draw.....

but the first match was not even clone JL Castillo won.

[Fibroso]

he reminds me of Tyson some.... at first he was a respectful boxer and champion and now talks trash to sell tickets.

He wont Fight Manny...... I just do not like it.

I used to be a huge fan of Mayweather , I still think he is great but NOT the number 1 p4p

he ducks ppl.

also he lost to JL Castello I , It was a split Decsion and it was stil a Robbery and even HBO and others felt so.

Watch it on You tube

and the rematch was so close... I had it a Draw.....

but the first match was not even clone JL Castillo won.

Haha,JMM is better than Castillo. Beat Manny a few times, before Bradley that is. Yet PBF just messed with JMM. PBF left the welterweight division so did Cotto, nothing interesting there. Ever since the religious conversion, Manny can't lie, therefore he can't win, no punch. Wonder why????? Ahhh you know!!!!

[dslchome]

Haha,JMM is better than Castillo. Beat Manny a few times, before Bradley that is. Yet PBF just messed with JMM. PBF left the welterweight division so did Cotto, nothing interesting there. Ever since the religious conversion, Manny can't lie, therefore he can't win, no punch. Wonder why????? Ahhh you know!!!!

JMM?

watch the 2 fights Mayweather had with JL Castillo.

he lost the first fight big time...

[Fibroso]

JMM?

watch the 2 fights Mayweather had with JL Castillo.

he lost the first fight big time...

Why was Manny scared of Chico Corrales and Arturo Gatti? PBF beat the xell out of them.

[dslchome]

Why was Manny scared of Chico Corrales and Arturo Gatti? PBF beat the xell out of them.

Scared? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He was making much more $ fighing Morales at the time.

I see you do know your boxing.

I have been following boxing even Olympic boxing since I was a KID

I grew up in Detroit I even went to Kronk Boxing Gym and Saw Hitman Hearns Train and met Emanuel Steward also a young Micheal Moore was in the Gym also, he was Light Heavy Weight prospect back then and I remember Emanuel saying that Moore would be champ and hit hard enough to go up to heavy weight and I remember him saying that Moore had size 14 or 15 shoes, he was going on about how a big feet on a power puncher gives more leverage.

I was very young at that time.

but forget about trying to go boxing per boxing with me.

I have pictures when I was at boxing statiums and saw Jim Lampley and larry Merchant in the Restroom and Emanuel Steward. I remember b.c the rest room floor was 1 inch deep in Piss, it was Calzage vs Roy Jones Jr fight at Madison Square Garden, it was not that far of a Drive.

However now I moved and Im very far from the action, but I still watch them on TV.

[Fibroso]

Scared? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He was making much more $ fighing Morales at the time.

I see you do know your boxing.

I have been following boxing even Olympic boxing since I was a KID

I grew up in Detroit I even went to Kronk Boxing Gym and Saw Hitman Hearns Train and met Emanuel Steward also a young Micheal Moore was in the Gym also, he was Light Heavy Weight prospect back then and I remember Emanuel saying that Moore would be champ and hit hard enough to go up to heavy weight and I remember him saying that Moore had size 14 or 15 shoes, he was going on about how a big feet on a power puncher gives more leverage.

I was very young at that time.

but forget about trying to go boxing per boxing with me.

I have pictures when I was at boxing statiums and saw Jim Lampley and larry Merchant in the Restroom and Emanuel Steward. I remember b.c the rest room floor was 1 inch deep in Piss, it was Calzage vs Roy Jones Jr fight at Madison Square Garden, it was not that far of a Drive.

However now I moved and Im very far from the action, but I still watch them on TV.
Pleased to meet you, Corrales was undefeated and even Morales didn't want to fight him. Corrales had cojones, 5' 10" tall.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3doNW0eUtv0

[dslchome]

Pleased to meet you, Corrales was undefeated and even Morales didn't want to fight him. Corrales had cojones, 5' 10" tall.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3doNW0eUtv0

also if you remember, the only reason why chico Corrales did so bad in the fight was not b.c Mayweather. It was b.c at 5ft 10 Chico had a very hard time making 130Lbs and the shorter Mayweather could also he had lots of out of the ring distractions.
He was to go to jail right after that fight for hitting his wife or somthing, plus his old Girl Friend sold one of his NSAB Championship belts on Ebay... And he was very upset, Yes I know Chico is a PRO and shoudlnt let things get to him
but he was fairly young when he started and making 130 was hard then... but the time he had the Mayweather fight and knowing he was going to Jail and he did his time like a MAN, Mayweather is in Jail now and is crying saying the diet is bad and he is losing weight. LOL!

I guess he don't like Tang and Rice Crispies... Hey.. Snap Crackle Pop.. I hear breakfast is good when they have Pan cakes.
No Steak in Jail for Mayweahter. LOL!

Anways.. my point.. Corrales had some major distractions and was younger but never had a fight at 130 again... he out grew that divsion, also HE MADE The WEIGHT!, he didnt come in at 135 lbs and say Ill pay the fine....... Mayweather would of never faught him.. It was in the contract that Chico had to make 130lbs or there would be no FIGHT, and he needed the $ before he went to jail.

Yes Mayweather had some distractions * JAIL * Legal problems into the COTTO fight, but he is very RICH and grown up.... You really cant compare other then Mayweather is crying in jail... He should of went for CC aka Community Control via GPS Ankle Bracelet like Martha Stewart did.

LOL.. anyways.

Chico Corrales had a hard time even making 135 and 140lb, he should of never had a 130lbs fight with mayweather. If it was at 140 I think Chico might of won... or at 135 Lbs Im sure he would of Won.

and Chico height is 5′ 10½ Chico being Diego Corrales... 95% of his fights were at the division super featherweight limit

and Mayweather is 154 / 147 and he cuts down to make that weight.

also Mayweather when he fought JMM he didn't even make Weight.....

he was suppose to be 140 for that fight.. but Mayweather had the $ to pay the fine.

matter of fact to prove a point 2 hours later when they gave him a chance to make weight, he came in more heavy.


also Look just where Mayweather had his big fight with Chico Corrales
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States

Hmmm... Why? To cheat. He could not have that fight in any other state in the USA....

Its so transparent.

CLEAN UP THE SPORT like mayweather says and Olympic drug testing.

How come Lydocain is ok? That drug you cant use in the Olympics... So its really the Mayweather Athletic commission.

MWAC is what they should call it.

Its funny when Mayweather says he wants to clean up boxing and have Olympic drug testing.. but Mayweather himself uses a banned substance and refuses to fight in only 1 state that allows it.

I mean you cant see whats going on?


I like Mayweather, I'm from Detroit and Grand Rapids is not that far away.. I used to watch Mayweather fight at the Palace in Auburn Hills Michigan when he fought Rodriguez , I think it was his 4th or 5th pro fight, however It was a over-match b.c Mayweather KOed the guy in the first round.

anyways.... my point is, google and try to find out how many fights he has had in Vegas.......

And then Compare them to when he became a Super Star... He refuses to fight or train anyplace else.

Why????? B.c NSAC allows a Olympic banned drug and a drug banned in the rest of the 49 states and better yet the rest of the WORLD.

Im trying to see when that drug was taken off the NSAC banned substance list.... and trying to see if Mayweather had anything to do with it.

Like made a deal with NSAC to only fight in Vegas so they could get Vegas $ coming through there and that would boost the Casinos and everything.

Its FISHY

[Fibroso]

Like made a deal with NSAC to only fight in Vegas so they could get Vegas $ coming through there and that would boost the Casinos and everything.

Its FISHY

If the congressman would make such a deal with the PAC at Manila. Will help his country get out of poverty and boost the economy of his beloved country. Yet, I haven't seen him fight once in the homeland! Contrary, he makes lots of money and his boss takes the rest.

[dslchome]

If the congressman would make such a deal with the PAC at Manila. Will help his country get out of poverty and boost the economy of his beloved country. Yet, I haven't seen him fight once in the homeland! Contrary, he makes lots of money and his boos takes the rest.

yea he did...... former champ in 2006 129½ Oscar Larios 129 56-4-1

Araneta Coliseum, Barangay Cubao, Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines


2004-12-11 125 Fahsan 3K Battery 124 43-7-1

MC Home Depot Open Air Arena, Taguig City, Metro Manila, Philippines W TKO 4 12

and

2003-03-15 126 Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov 126½ 17-5-1

Luna Park Quirino Grandstand, Manila, Metro Manila, Philippines W TKO 5 10


2002-10-26 122 Fahprakorb Rakkiatgym 121 37-2-0

Rizal Memorial Colleges (RMC) Gym, Davao City, Davao del Sur, Philippines W TKO 1 12


and many more, I see you dont know your boxing.

Also after his first PPV fight..... that he made big $

he gave out food and CASH to people in several towns and large cities in his country.

You think Mayweather would give out CASH and food to people in Detroit?

No way!

[TLG]

dslchome ..

sorry to say dude but your reply's are long, annoying and really un-informative ..
you are arguing for the sake of arguing ..

first ....... hzzp://tfmjf.org/ here is floyd's foundation ,, you can read through
these pages for yourself

second , i am sure you are aware that Manny is under investigation for money
laundering and tax invasion ,, by his own government.

third , many mega earners have foundations and give to charity ,, it's all part of
tax write off's and publicity. ...

everybody cheats .. even if it's just a little ...

[dslchome]

dslchome ..

sorry to say dude but your reply's are long, annoying and really un-informative ..
you are arguing for the sake of arguing ..

first ....... hzzp://tfmjf.org/ here is floyd's foundation ,, you can read through
these pages for yourself

second , i am sure you are aware that Manny is under investigation for money
laundering and tax invasion ,, by his own government.

third , many mega earners have foundations and give to charity ,, it's all part of
tax write off's and publicity. ...

everybody cheats .. even if it's just a little ...


any comment why Mayweather will only FIGHT in Vegas?

Im a huge Pride FC fan. and when Pride FC was in Japan many fighters looked awesome!

Shogun Rua, Nogera and Gomi and so many others.. Reason why They dont check for Steroids in Japan...

So when UFC aquired pride most them fighter got a 3 fight contract in UFC of Strikforce and they all lost.

Reason and i know its hypicrictal b.c old NSAC Commisoner Mark Ratner works for UFC and basically when you fight for UFC
you get tested.

However UFC / MMA is not the same as boxing.

However you only comment on the $.

What about the Drugs Mayweather uses and that drug that is only allowed in 1 state in the whole USA.

Why wont Mayweather fight Texas.

Also Manny in under investigation..... Oh so that means he is guilty?

I thought you were innocent till proven so.

Anways... Look where The Mayweather is.... JAIL.

He is guilty man atm.

However Im off point.

Point is he takes a DRUG that is only legal in 1 state in the WHOLE USA.. and that state has no other Sports franchice

no MLB no NFL not even NHL..... Some good MMA fighters are from Nevada and thats about it.


However lets hear what you have to say about Mayweather saying we need Olympic style testing in boxing and him saying we need to clean boxing up and he himself takes a drug that is not allowed in the Olympics.

Its crazy for a fighter to tell another fighter what he must do.. Thats like Manny telling Mayweather to take a Enima before the fight.

I mean it makes no sence.

Like Teddy Atlas and most experts agree Floyd dont want the fight and basically.. well its called he contracts his way out of it.

Makes the fighter have to agree to unreasonable stuff. Manny never came up positive for Drugs in any state.... Now if he was a Mosley and yes the whole Balbo labs incedent with Roy Jones and Shane Mosley and Fernando Vargas was caught also for taking steroids.

I could see if Manny tested positive in the past then to want to really make sure.. but the guy never tested positive, and NSAC has caught many Athletes..... Even UFC fighters like Josh Barrnet and Stepfen Bonnar and the Crippler.

Anways..... lets hear your remark on the drug that Mayweather takes and they have videos of him getting injections on you tube via HBO cameras before a fight.

LOL! Yea lets clean up the sports to take drugs only Mayweather feels are fair and fight in the only state that allows it.

LOL!

I know so much about boxing... even how to proper taping of the hands can make boxers punch threw walls.

If the boxers hands are not wrapper proper they cant hit hard... Remember Gerald McClellan? His fight with Nigel Benn? His last fight he ever had, well his orginal hand wrapper was not there and he had to have someone who really did not know how to wrap hands... G Man knocked Benn out off the ring and knocked him down several times but his punches didn't have the same power so Benn got up and Benn was tough also but was hitting in the back of the head and the guy died.

I know that's off topic but I know boxing...... I have lived it. I saw Chavez vs Meldrick Taylor . I saw what was called the Randell Scandal ... I have seen many LIVE Fights..... Called in on live boxing shows on AM Radio.... I mean forget trying to go

blow 4 blow on boxing with me......

[rokko]

dslchome ..

sorry to say dude but your reply's are long, annoying and really un-informative ..
you are arguing for the sake of arguing ..

first ....... hzzp://tfmjf.org/ here is floyd's foundation ,, you can read through
these pages for yourself

second , i am sure you are aware that Manny is under investigation for money
laundering and tax invasion ,, by his own government.

third , many mega earners have foundations and give to charity ,, it's all part of
tax write off's and publicity. ...

everybody cheats .. even if it's just a little ...

dslchrome your replys are informative and appreciated by those of us who are boxing fans--there is never an answer to what you are questioning from the blind uninformed fans of floyd--everybody has role models and people they respect--some people have floyd for their role model and im ok with that--these people we speak of probably think wwe is real--no problem the fact that floyd uses lidocaine is an issue with me and many other fans..when you bring it up they wont debate it--they just bring up some rumors about manny---these are fanboys and not true fanshttp://i48.tinypic.com/122nqx0.jpg

[TLG]

dslchome,,

yes ,, you know your stuff ,, never questioned it ,, hence why I said ,, and you pointed out ,, "everyone cheats"
as for the lidocaine ,, as i mentioned above ,,, if it's allowed in Vegas , then anyone fighting in Vegas will use it,

therefore ,, no clear advantage to Floyd,,

the direction of the topic here is two fold, 1) lidocaine, which has been answered .. the other is charitable donations
which again , has been discused,, many mega earners donate, that's how they gain publicity ,,

in this case one fighter allows his foundation to carry on business quietly behind the scene , while the other is vocal,,
in fact "bull horn" vocal about it ,, as it serves his purpose ,, and that purpose is of coarse , that he is running for
politics ,, it's not rocket science.

questioning whether one person is a Floyd fan and therefore ,,, blah blah blah ,,, is the same as saying the other guy
is a Manny fan therefore ,, blah blah blah ..

i am a fan of both fighters ,, and win lose or draw ,, makes absolutely no difference to me ,, financial or otherwise.

it's only entertainment.

[Fibroso]

Lets just stay in the topic, no more drugs cause I'm getting high.lol

[dslchome]

dslchrome your replys are informative and appreciated by those of us who are boxing fans--there is never an answer to what you are questioning from the blind uninformed fans of floyd--everybody has role models and people they respect--some people have floyd for their role model and im ok with that--these people we speak of probably think wwe is real--no problem the fact that floyd uses lidocaine is an issue with me and many other fans..when you bring it up they wont debate it--they just bring up some rumors about manny---these are fanboys and not true fanshttp://i48.tinypic.com/122nqx0.jpg



True, Also Im not a Mayweather hater, I think he had / has the best defence and refexes I have ever seen. He is no doubt the smartest boxer I have seen, that check left hook vs Ricky Hatton was classic handbook. I saw it coming and even Manny Stweard said it looks like Mayweather is and boom the KO..... That was a check left hook.

Also Mayweathers overhand right if you look the way he uses his hip and can counter over the best jabbers. Remember Oscar fight. Oscar was winning that fight up until Oscar stopped using his jab b.c he saw Mayweather had his Jab timing down.

So Im not a Mayweather hater..... Im from Detroit very near Grand Rapids Michigan where Mayweather was born.

What I do not like is what Mayweather did with the Ortiz fight and with the whole Manny Pacman thing and his own form of drug testing... Now that I do not like.

Also Mayweather feels he is the best fighter of ALL TIME... and I feel its possible... however he needs to fight Pacman...

We really need to see him FIGHT.. Like when Roy Jones Jr did vs Tarver in the 1st Fight.....

I do not want to see Mayweather fight past his prime like Roy Jones...

I would like to see Mayweather fight Manny and if he wins he can retire undefeated... Like Rocky Marciano and Joe Calzaghe

There is a few other undefeated champs out there like Chris John who beat JM Marquez and that was in JM Marquez Prime, however after that loss he JMM started to drink his P / URINE...

Anyways.
hope this clears some things up.


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[DSSRUEL]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=HLG0u4Cjyt0&NR=1

[dslchome]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=HLG0u4Cjyt0&NR=1

You tube video allowed?

Hey there is Ray Boom Boom Mancini there in the start.'

there is that awesome check left hook by mayweather I Spoke off.. and some nice old clips

Alexis vs Pryor 1 was awesome.. but Panama Lewis... No No give me the special mix.. Noo the brown bottle I make special.

Holyfeld vs bowe 1 was aweome

the gatti vs Ruelas and Ward were great!

To bad Hagler vs John the beast Mugabe clips are not in there..... that was one of my favs I can watch over and over.

Duran was awesome .... I love the ALI.

also Larry Holmes when he went down Ernie I thought Larry was OUT!

Great Video..

also the Chico vs JL Castillo was all time great!

RIP CHICO

Only thing missing in that video is Burgess Meridith aka Micky saying SPEED ! SPEED ! SPEEED! to the Rocky Song part of the video..... ROCKY2, ROCKY 1 in that music Micky was saying stay down down.... then Rocky got up and broke Creeds Ribs then the end of the fight and Rocky screaming Adrian....



also I think the old fights .. Joe Lewis vs Conn and I think Dempsy vs Willard is there and Sugar Ray Robinson and when Jimmy Young put Forman down in Cuba...

Great video.....




If you want to watch a great fight..... watch David Tua vs Ike Abeabuchi

That fight is in the record books!

[jriver309]

Man this is a great post and someone mentioned a few weeks back we are some older guys in here. I seen most of the fights in the clip, great memories and yes I seen David Tua vs Ike Abeabuchi. Man its a shame fighters gotta get old.


You tube video allowed?

Hey there is Ray Boom Boom Mancini there in the start.'

there is that awesome check left hook by mayweather I Spoke off.. and some nice old clips

Alexis vs Pryor 1 was awesome.. but Panama Lewis... No No give me the special mix.. Noo the brown bottle I make special.

Holyfeld vs bowe 1 was aweome

the gatti vs Ruelas and Ward were great!

To bad Hagler vs John the beast Mugabe clips are not in there..... that was one of my favs I can watch over and over.

Duran was awesome .... I love the ALI.

also Larry Holmes when he went down Ernie I thought Larry was OUT!

Great Video..

also the Chico vs JL Castillo was all time great!

RIP CHICO

Only thing missing in that video is Burgess Meridith aka Micky saying SPEED ! SPEED ! SPEEED! to the Rocky Song part of the video..... ROCKY2, ROCKY 1 in that music Micky was saying stay down down.... then Rocky got up and broke Creeds Ribs then the end of the fight and Rocky screaming Adrian....



also I think the old fights .. Joe Lewis vs Conn and I think Dempsy vs Willard is there and Sugar Ray Robinson and when Jimmy Young put Forman down in Cuba...

Great video.....




If you want to watch a great fight..... watch David Tua vs Ike Abeabuchi

That fight is in the record books!

[plastikman]

manny pacquiao is on the decline.. If anyone says different have there blinders on.. The last few fights he hasnt been himself.. Fighting in spirts, His rythym is gone. Manny used to bounce side to side then come on in on the fighter on his toes.. Now he is almost flat footed and his punched are all over the place.. If bradley had of fought the manny that was in with cotto that night, bradley would still be in the hospital as we speak.. Manny may have 2 good fights left in him, then its over...

[plastikman]

As for floyd mayweather, his fights are getting more exciting.. He isnt trying to run and hide and pot shot, floyd is willing to trade and his last fight with cotto, floyd may have been declining a bit as well, but is still a major threat to anybody he faces in welterweight or super welter division.. :thumbsup:

[Fibroso]

manny pacquiao is on the decline.. If anyone says different have there blinders on.. The last few fights he hasnt been himself.. Fighting in spirts, His rythym is gone. Manny used to bounce side to side then come on in on the fighter on his toes.. Now he is almost flat footed and his punched are all over the place.. If bradley had of fought the manny that was in with cotto that night, bradley would still be in the hospital as we speak.. Manny may have 2 good fights left in him, then its over...
Well put, Don't know what's happening with him but have to speculate that the fact that he closed all his "night clubs" not to say strip joints, and stopped his Saturday nights activities, may lead to think he also left behind "öther things" that helped him be what he was. The sudden distancing from Ariza who was involved with illegal subs. and his religious conversion. When you repent is because you've been doing wrong, he certainly looks like a repented individual, not a beast.