Will this work

[abby]

the eastern arch dish has 61.5-72.7-77 ,i want to add a dish with 118-110-119 what setup would work..

[timster]

yes, that will work

[nixon_r]

Why are you routing the 118 output to the EA dish, all this will do is increase the power demand on that dish and a FTA receiver will not power it. Why not have 118 go to another port on the diseqc switch, it will result in the same out come with less power demand from the EA dish.

[timster]

Why are you routing the 118 output to the EA dish, all this will do is increase the power demand on that dish and a FTA receiver will not power it. Why not have 118 go to another port on the diseqc switch, it will result in the same out come with less power demand from the EA dish.

I mentioned that at another site, but he's got a Dish subscription so 118 can't be moved

[StanW]

​The information provided is not enough to answer the question. The way it stands the 118 setup doesn't make sense.

[buddy4406]

I think it would work. Try it and please let us know.

[timster]

here are the setting for your dish

Only the highlighted options need to be changed

61.5W Echostar 12/15
LNB Power: On
LNB Type: OCS-DP
LNB Frequency: 11250
LNB 22KHz: Off
DiSEqC SW 1.0: 3
DiSEqC SW 1.1: Off
Legacy SW: SW21 Dish 1

72.5W Nimiq 5
LNB Power: On
LNB Type: OCS-DP
LNB Frequency: 11250
LNB 22KHz: Off
DiSEqC SW 1.0: 2
DiSEqC SW 1.1: Off
Legacy SW: SW21 Dish 1

77.0W Echostar 1/8
LNB Power: On
LNB Type: OCS-DP
LNB Frequency: 11250
LNB 22KHz: Off
DiSEqC SW 1.0: 1
DiSEqC SW 1.1: Off
Legacy SW: SW21 Dish 1

118.0W Dish AnikF3
LNB Power: On
LNB Type: OCS-DP or Single
LNB Frequency: 10750
LNB 22KHz: Off
DiSEqC SW 1.0: 4
DiSEqC SW 1.1: Off
Legacy SW: SW21 Dish 1

110.0W Echostar 10/11
LNB Power: On
LNB Type: OCS-DP or Single
LNB Frequency: 11250
LNB 22KHz: Off
DiSEqC SW 1.0: 2
DiSEqC SW 1.1: Off
Legacy SW: SW21 Dish 2

119.0W Echostar 14
LNB Power: On
LNB Type: OCS-DP or Single
LNB Frequency: 11250
LNB 22KHz: Off
DiSEqC SW 1.0: 1
DiSEqC SW 1.1: Off
Legacy SW: SW21 Dish 2

[Terryl]

Well I would agree somewhat, but the SW21 is not compatible with the D1000 LNB anymore, it is a legacy switch, the D1000 LNB uses Dish Pro Plus technology, and is only compatible with DPP type switches, if you tried the SW12 on that setup you would loose some transponders, more then likely the high end part of the band stack. (conflicting 22 KHz signals )

The only way I can see this working is to run the subbed receiver off the #1 port of the "Eastern Arc" dish, then the #2 port of the D1000 LNB runs to a 22 KHz switch, the other side (110/118/119) will have to be a DP plus dish, setup for 118, Now comes the problem, trying to get the 118 signal over to the other side, the Dish 500 system needs an DPP44 switch to work right, the LNB used for the 118/119 satellites does not have a second output to run over to the other setup.

You will have to run the output of the DPP44 switch, and the Dish 1000 LNB to a 22 KHz switch to get the combined signals to a FTA receiver. (22 KHz off for one side, and 22 KHz on for the other.)

Only problem is the subbed receiver for the Eastern Arc will not be able to see the 118 satellite, and I don't think Dish will let you try that setup on its receiver, (61.5,72.7,77,110,118,119, only room for 4 satellites on Dish receivers)) if you are subbed to the "Eastern Arc" then you should be getting the 118 channels off that set of satellites. (61.5,72.7,77)

[navigates]

Well I would agree somewhat, but the SW21 is not compatible with the D1000 LNB anymore, it is a legacy switch, the D1000 LNB uses Dish Pro Plus technology, and is only compatible with DPP type switches, if you tried the SW12 on that setup you would loose some transponders, more then likely the high end part of the band stack. (conflicting 22 KHz signals )

The only way I can see this working is to run the subbed receiver off the #1 port of the "Eastern Arc" dish, then the #2 port of the D1000 LNB runs to a 22 KHz switch, the other side (110/118/119) will have to be a DP plus dish, setup for 118, Now comes the problem, trying to get the 118 signal over to the other side, the Dish 500 system needs an DPP44 switch to work right, the LNB used for the 118/119 satellites does not have a second output to run over to the other setup.

You will have to run the output of the DPP44 switch, and the Dish 1000 LNB to a 22 KHz switch to get the combined signals to a FTA receiver. (22 KHz off for one side, and 22 KHz on for the other.)

Only problem is the subbed receiver for the Eastern Arc will not be able to see the 118 satellite, and I don't think Dish will let you try that setup on its receiver, (61.5,72.7,77,110,118,119, only room for 4 satellites on Dish receivers)) if you are subbed to the "Eastern Arc" then you should be getting the 118 channels off that set of satellites. (61.5,72.7,77)

I can confirm that the attached mentioned solution works. The only difference here is that the switch that is being used is SW-21X and not the SW-21. I couldn't get SW-21 to switch. Don't know if it is the switch issue or is it dreamlink's. One point to note. Its advisable to do a satellite scan individually before connecting to the switches.

Scan Order I did was
61.5, 72.7, 118, then 110 and 119. I don't care about 77 so didn't scan.
channels scan on 110 and 119 will overwrite channels scanned by 72.7. Some duplicates exist.

The last task to overcome is to find an efficient way to scan long EPG. 239 gets long epg on some channels.
Will 72.7 bring the long EPG if selected on the correct transponder for 110 and 119 as well?

[navigates]

Terryl, As per your post. Do you think some transponders will not work? Is there a way to validate that? I have the 22hrz tone switch as well. Should I try that instead?

[Terryl]

The SW-21X is a Dish approved switch, that is why it works and the other one doesn't.

If 1 transponder works on that satellite then they all will, if your receiver is capable to receive them that is.

[navigates]

The SW-21X is a Dish approved switch, that is why it works and the other one doesn't.
If 1 transponder works on that satellite then they all will, if your receiver is capable to receive them that is.

I don't think SW21X is a Dish Approved switch. SW21 is. However SW-21X identifies as SW-42. I couldn't get SW-21 (non X) to work with the setup. Just the SW21X.

However its good to know if one TP works then all will. I was thinking of trying out the 22hrz tone switch today. I ordered a bunch of switches on ebay to see what would work. They are cheap and take forever to come in. Better to have it in your stack for playing around.

[navigates]

I changed the switch 21x with the Ecoda 22hrz tone switch as I was missing a few channels. I don't understand. I am missing a few channels on 72.7 such as CNNHD etc. it does not scan even when directly connected to the dish without any switches. Is there an updated TP List or is this old on the latest bin. I've reloaded the bin, done factory reset but still no luck.

Another observation when I rescan 72.7 and then 110. I loose some channels on 72.7. I don't know why. They disappear on the list. Eg: Velocity. Wish there was a way to load the channel list by satellite on PC.

[Terryl]

I don't think SW21X is a Dish Approved switch. SW21 is. However SW-21X identifies as SW-42. I couldn't get SW-21 (non X) to work with the setup. Just the SW21X.

However its good to know if one TP works then all will. I was thinking of trying out the 22hrz tone switch today. I ordered a bunch of switches on ebay to see what would work. They are cheap and take forever to come in. Better to have it in your stack for playing around.


Sorry it is, look here...

http://www.sadoun.com/Sat/Products/JVI/vi_35sw21x_2in1_multidish_switch.htm

[navigates]

Attached is the Final setup that worked. Hope this helps someone with a similar setup. Channel switching between 72.7 and 110 are almost immediate. No Change delay. I kept the tone off for the eastern arc and on for 110/119.

I moved away from the SW-21X and SW-21 was because when switching satellites, I was getting an error message once a while "Bad of No Signal". With the tone switch that does not happen.