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chicot60
09-05-2012, 07:40 PM
http://i.imgur.com/T2gM7.jpg


To further educate, that's called a Conventional cut. The other two styles are the Humboldt Cut and the Open Face Cut. The three of them look like this.
http://www.coloradofirecamp.com/s-212-chainsaws/images/undercuts.jpg
The history of the Conventional and Humboldt Cuts has to do with using saws and axes.
The Conventional Cut came from using axes, because it's really hard to swing UP into a cut.
While big two-man felling saws (like shown in the OP's picture) could do it, the lumberjacks of the day were so used to doing one cut, they just stuck with it.
It wasn't until the advent of the powersaw that the Humboldt Cut (named after Humboldt County in California, home of a LOT of logging) came into being.
Because the notch came out of the stump and not the log, it saved useable wood.
Also, the tree would now lean better against the stump as it fell, causing fewer "kickouts," which is where the tree slides off the stump as it falls, and shoots backwards (very very dangerous if you're standing back there).
Open Face Cuts are the best and worst of both cuts. Because there is material removed from the stump, the possibility of kickout is reduced. But material is also removed from the log, so it's wasteful.
It really depends on who you talk to as to what method is the "best," and old-school loggers will happily argue for hours on which cut is the best. I go with what I was taught by my feller instructor, that a Humboldt Cut is good for larger trees, and an Open Face Cut is good for smaller trees.

RoxieHVNY
09-05-2012, 08:14 PM
Interesting AND educational. Thank you, chicot!

hutch
09-05-2012, 09:36 PM
Thanks for bringing back memories chicot60,
I have an old misery whip(two man saw) on my wall...Having some experience with this(old school am I)... I must say the Humbolt & open face have some big advantages over the conventional however you loose the ability to jump cut smaller trees... A back cut below instead of above the box which will induce a pop hop forward reducing the probability of of a kickout but also reducing the accuracy of the fell. A Barber Chair(a spiral slab split off the length of the tree) can result from any cut with devastating effects as the circular motion & the weight & speed of the slab can have an effect similar to a chopper blade taking out everything in its path. Nowhere is safe in this situation. If you want to see a very good movie about Logging... Paul Newman & Henry Fonda star in Sometimes a Great Notion... the first few minutes will alert you to the dangers of logging... the second most dangerous occupation(high steel work is first).

nexus
09-06-2012, 06:46 AM
interesting thanks :)

drcooper
09-06-2012, 08:55 AM
I gotta say, that picture at the top of the thread is mind boggling. That's one big tree. When I was a kid with my parents on vacation in BC Canada we got a few pics of us standing inside a hollow tree trunk, it was huge to me then and looking at those photos of us now it must have been big. My stepdad was able to fully stand up in the hollow portion for a photo and he's something like 6 foot two.

Fun info to read in the op as well, kudos :)