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PHONETOOL
09-07-2012, 10:11 AM
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The Broadcast Will Begin at 6:45 PT/ 9:45 ET on HBO East

The best fighting the best, Period

Andre Ward vs.Chad Dawson



On Saturday, September 8, the best light heavyweight in the world will drop seven pounds to challenge the best super middleweight in the world. “Bad” Chad Dawson (31-1, 17 KOs), the current WBC light heavyweight champion and Andre “S.O.G.” Ward (25-0, 13 KOs), the current WBA and WBC super middleweight champion square off at the Oracle Arena in Ward’s hometown of Oakland, California. HBO will broadcast the fights starting at 9:45 PM EST/ 6:45 PM PST, with WBC lightweight titlist Antonio DeMarco defending his WBC lightweight belt against John Molina in the opening contest.

When you wade through the septic tank of hostility and rancor that has been vocally defecated by some of the more prominent members of the boxing media, Ward vs. Dawson is exactly what they, and boxing fans the same, have wasted countless productive hours on Twitter asking for; the best fighting the best. So why all the negative press?

Fights like Manny Pacquiao vs. Antonio Margarito won’t be **** upon by the so-called big shots, who didn’t want to miss out on the chance to drink Grey Goose and tail-gate in the parking lot of Cowboys Stadium, celebrating like Pacquiao-Margarito was the second coming of Hagler-Duran. It wasn’t. It was Antonio Margarito, who was mysteriously given the WBC’s number 1 ranking in the 154-pound division after one fight against the unranked Roberto Garcia, with the intention of opening up a shot at a Pacquiao sanctioning fee. But as an aside, it was interesting to see Margarito’s bad hand-wrap karma come back around and smack him in the face so hard it broke his eye socket.

A simple, but lengthy explanation will explain why this fight has been met with such a cold reception. This fight is an easy target. Bob Arum’s Top Rank Promotions and Oscar De La Hoya’s Golden Boy Promotions aren’t without their detractors and critics, but they are often given a free pass where their smaller competition (the Dan Goossen/Gary Shaw/Lou DiBellas of the world) are tied to a horse and dragged unceremoniously through the muddy thoroughfare. Chad Dawson is promoted by Gary Shaw and Andre Ward is promoted by Dan Goossen, both light hitting promoters as it pertains to influence and access in boxing. The only promoter to arguably catch more **** than Goossen and Shaw would be Lou DiBella, but that’s a whole other subject in itself. For all intents and purposes, Gary Shaw and Dan Goossen, and by extension, Chad Dawson and Andre Ward are the ones being **** on by some of your favorite (or maybe most hated) boxing writers with a stupefying twitter addiction.

If I’m being perfectly honest, I’ll say that this fight does have the potential to be boring. Chad Dawson doesn’t often live up to his “Bad Chad” moniker. His laid back, almost careless demeanor in the ring leaves him content to fight safely from a distance where his legs and reach keep him out of the scrum often filled with the less athletically gifted gloved brethren. Andre Ward, for his good-guy image and spotless professional record, is probably just as universally despised as “Bad Chad”. His style consists of one or two solid punches and clinching on the inside, where he uses his strength to bully his opponents into the ropes while he frees his arms to land the occasional shot downstairs before the referee intervenes. Ward’s style can be ugly, but like Bernard Hopkins, he’s effective and he finds a way to win.

Andre Ward doesn’t fight like a guy that possesses his athletic gifts. He’s big, strong, fast, and can fight in an orthodox stance or as a southpaw. He uses good head movement and angles, and his hands are fast enough that he should be able to increase his punch output. He chooses to land his shots and rough his opponent up on the inside. Chad Dawson, on the other hand, is a guy who uses his foot speed and reach, jabbing and moving. He’s uncomfortable on the inside, and when he’s pressed he’ll hop on his bike and ride. I can see the potential for a stinker here.

But this is what you’ve all asked for, isn’t it? You wanted it? You got it, Toyota. A constant gripe from boxing fans and media, alike, is the lack of true championship fights, or what some like to call “the best fighting the best”. Saturday’s super middleweight title fight between WBA/WBC super middleweight champion Andre Ward and WBC light heavyweight champion Chad Dawson is just that; The best 175-pounder in the world dropping 7 precious pounds to challenge the best 168-pounder in the world. Two of the best fighters only one division apart are getting together at a division limit with multiple, legitimately-earned world championships on the line (only Ward’s titles will be up for grabs).

Should Andre Ward win he’ll remain the best 168-pounder in the world, and he’ll look ahead to lucrative rematches with Carl Froch, Arthur Abraham, or a move up to the light heavyweight division. Should Chad Dawson win he’ll be the guy who beat the guy at 168-pounds, while simultaneously being the guy who beat the guy at light heavyweight. He isn’t moving down (or up) and picking off the weakest of the belt-holding herd, he called out the best and the best accepted his challenge. This is what you always ask for, boxing fans, so stop bitching when you get it. Article courtesy of Tim Harrison & The boxing Tribune





The Undercard

Antonio DeMarco vs. John Molina.

HBO to air Vitali Klitschko vs. Manuel Charr


Vitali Klitschko (44-2, 40 KOs) vs. Manuel Charr (21-0, 11 KOs)

Olimpiyskiy, Moscow, Russia

Even if Vitali fought with a spit bucket on his head and twenty-pound ankle weights on both legs, he’d still be the heavy favorite in this one. Charr, from Germany by way of Beirut, Lebanon, is exceptionally unspectacular, even among Eastern Bloc fringe contending heavyweights. He plods forward, eats copious amounts of punches (despite a high guard defense), and has an offense mostly consisting of wide arm punches. In other words, the only intrigue in this bout revolves around how long the future Hall of Fame defending WBC champ, Klitschko, decides to carry him.

HBO has acquired the broadcast rights to Vitali Klitschko's upcoming defence of the WBC heavyweight title against Manuel Charr.

The fight, which takes place on September 8th in Moscow, will be broadcast on tape-delay as part of a live boxing doubleheader featuring middleweights Andre Ward and Chad Dawson and lightweights Antonio DeMarco and John Molina.

"We have a main event with two of the best fighters in the world. Opening up with a Klitschko fight
makes the whole night bigger," said HBO senior vice president.

Antonio DeMarco (27-2-1, 20 KOs) vs. John Molina (24-1, 19 KOs)
Oracle Arena, Oakland, California

Part of the intrigue in this battle is that defending WBC lightweight champ, DeMarco is so vulnerable. Best known for a losing effort to Edwin Valero and a come from behind stoppage of Jorge Linares to take the belt, DeMarco is obviously tough and determined. He’s also just one notch below elite-class. John Molina is a heavy-handed, hungry challenger who will come forward



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el chido
09-09-2012, 03:37 AM
Wow.....Dawson Tried to hold up, but Ward was The Better Man Tonite!!.....

rudee
09-09-2012, 04:03 AM
Dawson's heart and body just weren't in the fight tonight... looked like he went to lose...
Molina surprised me... he was a nice boxer puncher... had a pretty good chin...
He just didn't even try... I think all the punches he has taken in the past just caught up
with him.. hell,, he lives about 10 miles from me... hated to see him go out like that.
Gentlemen,,,, I see this site is closing down tomorrow... that is very sad. I will bid my farewell
to all you fine gentlemen.. its been a real pleasure trading thoughts and opinions with all of you.
Maybe we will meet again on another site.. I hope so. Enjoyed this forum immensely.
Have a wonderful rest of your lives gents! You guys were great!

Highwayman
09-09-2012, 05:49 AM
Dawson's heart and body just weren't in the fight tonight... looked like he went to lose...
Molina surprised me... he was a nice boxer puncher... had a pretty good chin...
He just didn't even try... I think all the punches he has taken in the past just caught up
with him.. hell,, he lives about 10 miles from me... hated to see him go out like that.
Gentlemen,,,, I see this site is closing down tomorrow... that is very sad. I will bid my farewell
to all you fine gentlemen.. its been a real pleasure trading thoughts and opinions with all of you.
Maybe we will meet again on another site.. I hope so. Enjoyed this forum immensely.
Have a wonderful rest of your lives gents! You guys were great!

Dawson fights like "i wont hit you if you dont hit me lets just take the money and rrrrrun"!

It was a pleasure knowing you rudee and all your other boxing fans here.
We were thrown a left hook but theres always another ring!
Drop by XBMC NAVI-X AND VISIT Highwaymans EVERYTHING BOXING.....
c u guys around!

PHONETOOL
09-09-2012, 08:27 AM
Ward Stops Dawson in Ten, DeMarco Crushes Molina in One



Oracle Arena, Oakland, California– Hunger is something that can’t be taught to a fighter– and that was the big difference in Saturday night’s Andre Ward-Chad Dawson bout on HBO’s World Championship Boxing.

Dawson (31-2, 17 KOs), the WBC light heavyweight champ coming down to challenge for Ward’s WBC and WBA super middleweight belts, displayed the same lack of intensity and urgency that has marked his career and earned him his fair share of critics, even in the face of plenty of world title success. This time, though, he was facing a prime fighter in Andre Ward (26-0, 14 KOs), burning with a drive to win.

After two close rounds, Ward began turning up the heat in the third, jockeying for position inside and scoring knockdowns in the third and fourth rounds from well-placed left hooks. Dawson, on the other hand, kept up the even pace, frustrated by the knockdowns, but doing little more than keeping afloat with an OK jab and some marginal movement.

Ward owned the middle rounds, controlling the pace and distance of the fight against a Dawson who was steadily being forced into accepting his role as beta dog.

In the tenth, the defending champ fighting in front of his hometown crowd upped the pressure even more, landing some heavy shots to the head of an increasingly dead-legged Dawson and scoring one more knockdown from an accumulation of punches. Dawson would opt not to continue.

Down 8 rounds to 2 on The Boxing Tribune’s unofficial scorecard and suffering through three knockdowns, Dawson made the right decision for a fighter not willing and/or able to go balls-out for a knockout in the championship rounds.



On the televised undercard, WBC lightweight champ, Antonio DeMarco (28-2-1, 21 KOs) shocked those expecting a war in the second defense of his title by blowing away John Molina just 44 seconds into the first round.

A DeMarco straight left hand, landed just seconds into the fight, rocked Molina badly and signaled the beginning of the end. With a staggered challenger before him, DeMarco pounced, putting on pressure and forcing Molina into a doubled over “hit me not” posture that prompted referee Jack Reiss to put an end to the contest.


Article courtesy of Paul Magno & The Boxing Tribune