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Fibroso
10-18-2012, 11:42 PM
Erik Morales needs to hang up the gloves while he's still got his facultiesWed, Oct 17, 2012 4:26 PM EDT


No fighter – not Arturo Gatti, not Diego Corrales, not Manny Pacquiao – has been in more compelling fights in the last 25 years than Erik Morales.
Each time out, it was almost a slam-dunk guarantee that Morales would deliver an electrifying fight.
http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/iJp6VyCkmwRdZIw8A.5l8A--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://ypostnc.zenfs.com/6958018/npc-news.ocregister.com-374826.jpegErik Morales hopes to avenge his March loss to Danny Garcia on Saturday. (Getty)
The Morales of today, though, is not the Morales of 2000, who that year engaged Marco Antonio Barrera in the first of three highly skilled, bitterly fought battles that signaled his ascent into superstardom.
Morales is now fighting an opponent he cannot beat. Losing is almost inevitable.
He'll face Danny Garcia on Saturday in the main event of a Showtime-televised quadruple-header for the WBA/WBC super lightweight titles at the new Barclays Center in Brooklyn, N.Y. He may beat Garcia, though it's unlikely, because he nearly did so in March, not long after gall bladder surgery.
Morales, though, won't beat boxing. No one who has tried has ever done it and no matter how stubborn or insistent Morales is, he won't be the first.
Boxing has raised many men from the slums to riches and fame, but it almost inevitably takes it all back when the fighter doesn't know when to say when.
Legendary middleweight champion “Marvelous” Marvin Hagler walked away after a loss to Sugar Ray Leonard in 1987, never to return, his faculties and wealth intact. The great heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis did the same, retiring after a win over Vitali Klitschko in 2003 while he was still on top.


Even the promoter of Saturday's fight card, soon-to-be Hall of Famer Oscar De La Hoya, made the smart move. A few months after he was pummeled by Pacquiao, De La Hoya wisely stepped away.
But De La Hoya had something Morales doesn't have. Richard Schaefer, Golden Boy's CEO and De La Hoya's one-time manager, arranged for a soft landing for De La Hoya's post-fight career. He invested De La Hoya's money, diversified his holdings and built Golden Boy into a legitimate business.
When it was time for De La Hoya to retire, he didn't have to worry about paying the bills because of the groundwork Schaefer had laid years before.
Few other fighters have that, though. They inevitably fight on because they spend their purses like drunken sailors during their careers and, when the massive paydays end, they can't pay their bills.
To pay the bills, they fight, and when they fight long after their body tells them it's time to quit, they get hurt.
Morales hasn't been hurt – yet – but he fights the kind of fearless face-first style that makes him among the most vulnerable.
He has been hearing cries for his retirement for years now, since he was hammered by Pacquiao in their third fight in 2006. He was 30 then, and defiantly opted to fight on.
Now, he's 36, and it's a testament to his greatness that he's able to be competitive with guys like Garcia after all he's been through.
"What makes you think I can't still fight just because I am 36?" Morales asked at a New York workout on Tuesday. "I know I can still fight and I am going to win Saturday night."


Perhaps he might. Garcia is still largely an unknown commodity, though he seemed to answer a lot of questions by stopping Amir Khan to win the belt in July.
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It's not a stretch to think that Morales' less-than-stellar showing in their March 24 bout was due to the lingering effects of December gall bladder surgery.
Give Morales credit for refusing to use the surgery as an excuse for his loss, but it's naive to think it didn't have an impact.
"That is in the past and I don't think I need to talk about that now," Morales said of his surgery. "I am not into making excuses. It was something that happened but we are going to rematch now, so let's see what happens." What's probably going to happen is what usually happens in a Morales fight. He'll get hit and he'll fight back, hard, with every ounce of strength he has left in that skinny frame.
He's utterly fearless, which makes for compelling television but probably won't do much for his brain function later in life.
"When the media people ask you to say goodbye, I don't hear those comments," Morales said. "When you love boxing, you don't think about that. If I'm going to retire, I'll know when. When the time is right, I'll know in Tijuana, where I started my career."
A victory over Garcia will make him a champion again. Though it's unlikely – at this stage, Garcia is younger, stronger and faster – the result of the first fight proved it's not impossible.
It would be a big win for him.
But the biggest win would be if he recognized soon that he's never going to beat boxing. Retiring on top, with his title, money and faculties, is the only way he'll have a chance.

jamesbond
10-19-2012, 12:51 AM
What a great scoop you published above, Blackie!

jamesbond
10-19-2012, 12:56 AM
Were you aware that USADA is awaiting Eric Morales' Sample B? BoxingScene reports that the organization found some irregularities in his drug test last Tuesday. If Sample A matches Sample B, you might have to forget his Saturday night fight!

Fibroso
10-19-2012, 01:33 AM
Were you aware that USADA is awaiting Eric Morales' Sample B? BoxingScene reports that the organization found some irregularities in his drug test last Tuesday. If Sample A matches Sample B, you might have to forget his Saturday night fight!
So that means Garcia is on his way to make a mill without having to fight anyone.

Fibroso
10-19-2012, 01:36 AM
Big fights, big money at Barclays October, 17, 2012 Oct 17
5:45
PM ET

By Dan Rafael ESPN.com



The newly opened Barclays Center in Brooklyn, N.Y., will host what is supposed to be the first of many regular boxing shows over the coming years on Saturday night (Showtime, 8 ET/PT plus preliminaries on Showtime Extreme at 7 p.m.).

Golden Boy Promotions has an exclusive deal with the building to provide those cards. The first one will feature four world title bouts -- the first time there will be a world title bout in Brooklyn since 1931.

This card doesn't come cheap. Showtime is paying Golden Boy -- its virtually exclusive fight provider -- big money to put on the card. Based on the purses, Showtime is likely putting up in the $4 million range to televise the card, a huge amount these days for a premium cable card.

Without further adieu, the purses for the entire show, as per the New York State Athletic Commission:

• Junior welterweight titlist Danny Garcia $1 million with challenger and former titlist Erik Morales getting $300,000.

• Welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi $350,000 and challenger Pablo Cesar Cano $150,000.

• Middleweight titlist Hassan N’Dam N’Jikam $400,000 and challenger "Kid Chocolate" Peter Quillin $150,000.

• Welterweight titlist Randall Bailey $500,000 and challenger and former junior welterweight titlist Devon Alexander $600,000.

• Middleweight Daniel Jacobs $15,000 and opponent Josh Luteran $11,000. (This is the main bout on Showtime Extreme.)

• Also on the card: welterweight Dmitriy Salita ($10,000) vs. Brandon Hoskins ($10,000); former welterweight titlist Luis Collazo ($15,000) vs. Steve Upsher ($8,000); junior middleweight Eddie Gomez ($5,000) vs. Saul Benitez ($3,000); junior middleweight Boyd Melson ($2,000) vs. Jason Thompson ($2,500).

That’s a grand total of $3,531,500 for the purses on the show, which has many other expenses as well.

rudee
10-19-2012, 04:07 AM
Boy,, thats a lotta dough... wonder if Showtime is shelling out the dough for them... i know they cant draw that
kinda money on the live audience.. great lineup of matches though..
Beats most of HBO's showcases.
I agree with the above... Erik gonna have lotsa brain cells floating around up there.. he has taken some big
poundings in his life.
Rumor here is that he partied hard and needs the dough big time. Dunno if its true or not.
Gotta be fighting for a reason...
I predict he loses by knockout. The end.

Fibroso
10-19-2012, 01:32 PM
Erik Morales fails drug test
Updated: October 19, 2012, 2:40 AM ET
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com




Former four-division titleholder Erik Morales, due to challenge Danny Garcia in a rematch for his junior welterweight belts Saturday night, failed a random drug test administered by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.
However, two sources involved with the card said the fight is expected to go on Saturday. It headlines a Showtime-televised card featuring four world title bouts at the new Barclays Center in Brooklyn, N.Y.

The reason the fight has not been called off, according to one of the sources, is because Morales' "A" sample tested positive, but the results of the "B" sample test likely won't be available until after the fight.

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"As far as I know, the fight is going on," one of the sources told ESPN.com. "There is nothing that can be done to stop it" because the "B" sample test result has not yet been disclosed.
According to one of the sources, Morales tested positive for the banned substance clenbuterol, which is typically used for breathing disorders but also is used as a weight-loss aid. Cyclist Alberto Contador of Spain was banned from professional cycling for two years because he tested positive for clenbuterol during the 2010 Tour de France.
In March, Morales failed to make the 140-pound weight limit for a title defense against Garcia in Houston. Because he did not make weight, Morales was stripped of his world title. The fight went on and Garcia outpointed him the next night to win the vacant belt. They are meeting again because Morales exercised the rematch clause he had in his contract after allowing Garcia an interim bout -- which he took in July and knocked out Amir Khan to unify titles.
USADA discussed the test results with the fighter camps, Golden Boy and the New York State Athletic Commission during a teleconference on Thursday.
"(USADA) said it could be a false positive," one of the sources with knowledge of the disclosure said. "But from what I understand, they won't know until the test on the 'B' sample comes back, but that probably won't be until after the fight."
Golden Boy Promotions chief executive Richard Schaefer, who is promoting the show, was not available for comment but told Sports Illustrated that Morales' test had "irregularities" and that "USADA has now started the process, which will play out. There is not going to be a rush to judgment. Morales is a legendary fighter. And really, nobody deserves a rush to judgment. You are innocent until proven guilty."
In some fights it has promoted, Golden Boy has announced that the fighters were undergoing USADA random blood and urine tests leading up to them. The fact that Garcia and Morales were using USADA had not been disclosed until the positive test.
This is the fifth time this year that a high-profile fighter has had a positive drug test. Junior welterweight titlist Lamont Peterson tested positive for synthetic testosterone, causing his rematch with Khan to be canceled -- which is why Khan wound up facing Garcia. Former welterweight titlist Andre Berto tested positive for a steroid, causing his rematch with Victor Ortiz to be canceled.
Former light heavyweight champ Antonio Tarver fought Lateef Kayode to a draw in a cruiserweight fight but tested positive for a steroid after it. He was suspended for a year by the California State Athletic Commission, fined and had the result of the fight overturned to a no-decision.
Following his middleweight world title loss to Sergio Martinez last month, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. tested positive for marijuana, his second failed post-fight drug test since 2009.
Peterson and Berto, who were both fighting on Golden Boy cards, were using the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association to conduct their testing. Tarver was caught by the standard California commission testing.

rudee
10-19-2012, 07:08 PM
Thank God for B samples... by the time the B sample result comes in,,, the Bank of Tijuana will
be shut down...
Must be taking Armstrong's drugs... takes years to detect.
Boxing in the pits!

Gamer
10-19-2012, 08:47 PM
I hope they don't cancel the fight.I would like to see Morales get knocked out.

Fibroso
10-19-2012, 09:23 PM
I hope they don't cancel the fight.I would like to see Morales get knocked out.

Besides knocking Morales ,this kid will knock out many others, in this weight class and above. His boxing skills are definitely one of the best I've seen in a young boxer. His lack of speed is compensated with timing, we all know that timing can beat speed anytime. He also has a punch and can take one also.

El Chido®
10-20-2012, 02:55 AM
Despite the B Results, I Just Wanna watch The Bout to See How long The Old Timer can Hold On against The young Gun. We're talking about Terrible Morales Here, a Man with OUTSTANDING Bouts, Cojones Galore Decorated, and an Old School Tribute. There ain't amount of Clenbuterol to measure up to the amount of Guts This Man has shown. If He still has some pride in Him, I'm pretty sure He ain't gonna go That Easy, It's just a matter of watching, That's why I admit, I have that morbid curiosity, and will be definitely watching!!

jriver309
10-20-2012, 06:02 AM
I have always been a big fan of Morales and he fights with alot of heart. But he needs to walk away before he gets his brain scrambled by a young Lion like Garcia. Yeah the first fight was close but Garcia learned from it and is a much better fighter.

Fibroso
10-20-2012, 11:10 AM
I have always been a big fan of Morales and he fights with alot of heart. But he needs to walk away before he gets his brain scrambled by a young Lion like Garcia. Yeah the first fight was close but Garcia learned from it and is a much better fighter.

So good he's getting better every time you put a new boxer in front of him, the better the opponent the better he gets. 147 will be his great debut, when he takes on Manny Pacquiao, as a said before, the kid is all timing and timing will beat speed. Eric was one of the greatest but his cojones are hanging low, time is on the kid's side. The use of drugs to make the weight will take a toll on this event.

jriver309
10-20-2012, 09:46 PM
So good he's getting better every time you put a new boxer in front of him, the better the opponent the better he gets. 147 will be his great debut, when he takes on Manny Pacquiao, as a said before, the kid is all timing and timing will beat speed. Eric was one of the greatest but his cojones are hanging low, time is on the kid's side. The use of drugs to make the weight will take a toll on this event.

I agree with you cause he looked so much better against Khan who in my opinion was ripe for the picking, Morales took him to school and lesson learned well. Garcia has a bright future and many great fights await.

Momotumbo
10-20-2012, 09:54 PM
Whatever the Outcome he will walk away with some Money in his Pocket. Which I am sure he Needs.
I Salute a Great Warrior and hope that he doesn't sustain any serious injuries.
He Might even get lucky and walk away the winner!!!!

El Chido®
10-21-2012, 03:59 AM
The Kid is Way More Prepared for This bout than Morales By a Mile!!

The King is Dead, Long Live The King!!commentator said It so Well!

rudee
10-21-2012, 04:11 AM
What an embarrassment morales was... he looked like a statue.. this was batting practice. Erik just showed up for the paycheck.
The rest of the card was great! enjoyed it...
Hey,,, how about Garcia vs Nonito??????
They can both meet at a common weight.
Now that one i would pay for. Garcia would come to fight!!!!

Fibroso
10-21-2012, 04:19 AM
I told everyone the kid will beat many top contenders in his weight class and beyond. His timing is awesome, together with his punching power and the blood that runs through his veins, makes him a star. Eric had to retired, no way he can stand in front of all the young blood that's coming up in boxing. Danny is becoming the best young pugilist of the era. If he so decides to go up in weight, Pac will have to retire also. Good bye Eric and thanks for so many good fights...........

El Chido®
10-21-2012, 04:57 AM
You're So Right Dog, This kid is a Great counterpuncher, a Marquez successor with a Higher level IMO, and Hungry as Ever!

This Kid's got a Career and a Half Ahead of Him, and Glad to See His Dad Supporting Him All the Way!!..What an Accomplishment for Both!!

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jamesbond
10-21-2012, 12:59 PM
It is clear that the reign of EL TERRIBLE in the ring is long gone. I sometimes wonder about the USADA's purpose and motive in pursuing such drug testing. They shamed and destroyed Lance Armstrong. Now they going after Erik Morales? Are they afraid that Erik would have a distinct advantage and beat Garcia to a pulp?

Erik is retiring. He said so last night. I am sure fight fans all over the world are saddened by what they saw as his curtain fell. He was a shadow of the great boxer he once was.

With "Sample B" hanging like a sword over his head, his glory years could be wiped out and replaced by disgrace. Is that necessary?

litolapid
10-21-2012, 02:27 PM
to me you are hall of fame Eric for all the good fight that you show us...viva morales..

rudee
10-21-2012, 07:26 PM
Sample B is Tecate...way too much of it..
Hall of Fame for sure.. but keep this crap up and he won't be remembered at all..
Agree with you on Garcia guys... he is very good...
wanna see him fight Nonito....
No more stiffs..

Fibroso
10-21-2012, 09:31 PM
Sample B is Tecate...way too much of it..
Hall of Fame for sure.. but keep this crap up and he won't be remembered at all..
Agree with you on Garcia guys... he is very good...
wanna see him fight Nonito....
No more stiffs..
Nonito has to go up to 140 to fight the kid.
The kid is to big to go down to lets say 130 or so, to fight Nonito.
The Filipino wont take the kid's left hook, I'm sure the kid can take Nonito's punch.
He should take another Filipino, going up to 147 weight class, how would you like that?

rudee
10-22-2012, 12:31 AM
Ha ha ha!! that would be great Blackdog.... Actually Manny's natural weight is under 147.. like Marquez.
I have to think youth would prevail if Garcia and Manny got it on.. Manny does not fight too often anymore.
Garcia fights often and is super sharp...
I was alluding to Nonito cuz he keeps saying he is going up to 140 to fight. I agree, he is small.
I still cant get over the beatings Erik has taken in the last part of his career. Those are Parkinson's blows.
I remember shaking hands with Joe Louis at Caesars Palace way back when... Marciano had knocked him silly..
He shook and his voice was thick and slurry.... Ya felt sorry for him.
Erik gonna end up the same way... it shows up later in life... ask Ali..