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daryld
11-24-2012, 02:00 PM
Until the JB Ultra HD has files that fix the basic issues it has (ie: remote control and scanning tp's with accuracy) I am putting it on the shelf and going back to my SV 8000HD. I have not given up on the JB, but it still needs these basic issues tweaked to the point where it is on par with my Dreamlink and SV8000. It is not. I forgot what great video this SV 8000 has.......not exactly bitching, maybe more like kvetching....but I still am hopeful for a great stb once JB gets these issues straightened out.

Nostradamus
11-24-2012, 03:05 PM
do you have the latest file on the jynx? have you tried using the remote extender? while it is fine to point out issues unless you can post what you have tried then nobody will be able to help you. Also, if indeeed you did shelf the unit then this thread is nothing more than useless venting and bashing

daryld
11-24-2012, 03:20 PM
I agree Nostrodamus and I apologize for that. I do have the most recent file on it. I have read vociferously and tried the many, many good suggestions. Maybe I was hoping the JB folks would take a look at some of these basics. I am sure I am not alone in this, but apologize for this post if it is deemed worthless.... Again, it was not intended to bash JB. Having to rescan and continuously find wrong, missing, misplaced tp's every factory reset (my settings are correct), have the remote have loooong pauses between button press and response, and still finding ps connection issues are, IMHO, basics that "should" be fixed by now. I have been testing for about five years and the JB is taking a while to get these issues correct. Maybe I'm pointing out the obvious, maybe others aren't having this issue. Delete the thread if you think it is appropriate and I will consider myself reprimanded. daryld

magnus
11-24-2012, 03:35 PM
I agree Nostrodamus and I apologize for that. I do have the most recent file on it. I have read vociferously and tried the many, many good suggestions. Maybe I was hoping the JB folks would take a look at some of these basics. I am sure I am not alone in this, but apologize for this post if it is deemed worthless.... Again, it was not intended to bash JB. Having to rescan and continuously find wrong, missing, misplaced tp's every factory reset (my settings are correct), have the remote have loooong pauses between button press and response, and still finding ps connection issues are, IMHO, basics that "should" be fixed by now. I have been testing for about five years and the JB is taking a while to get these issues correct. Maybe I'm pointing out the obvious, maybe others aren't having this issue. Delete the thread if you think it is appropriate and I will consider myself reprimanded. daryld

Fully agree. Mine has been shelved for months now. Still waiting for improvements. I find my vs9000 way better.

I don't consider this bashing. I think it is more of a warning for people considering getting one. Wish i had seen a post like this before buying mine.

iq180
11-24-2012, 03:53 PM
the jynx has only two problems, no AM=PM time setting drives me nuts LOL, but most of the other problems with scanning and needing to reboot and server dropout is caused by not enought lnb power, this is an easy fix with a power inserter to port 1 or an
old sub reciver on port 1 to power the lnbs, this would fix 90% of the problems people have with the jynx if they would just do it.
JMO.

Nostradamus
11-24-2012, 04:03 PM
not meant as a reprimand at all, was more of just what have you done to fix the issues and what else can be done as well.

I have heard people say about using a sub box to power LNBs but I have to say I doi not know anybody who did it personally. I think one of the problems with that is that with only 4 ports available a lot of people do not have a spare one available

daryld
11-24-2012, 05:19 PM
I have more than enough power to my LNB's (three stb's and a power inserter on my DPP44 switch) It has not improved the scanning at all. I can manually scan many of the missing tp's, but there are others that I can't. I find if I mess around enough, reboot, wait, reboot again sometime the tp will "magically" scan. It also happens that if I just keep going to one of these non-scanning tp's and then to another, then back again I can sometimes get signal. There does not seem to be rhyme nor reason to it and I have been testing it long enough to be able to ascertain that. It is a fickle and unpredictable scanner, fickle remote (even from six feet away) and chooses to have connection to ps issues at times, although none of it is consistent, which very much leads me to believe it is sw related.....

iq180
11-24-2012, 05:53 PM
i had trouble with the 44switch, i now use a dish 500 with a dpp twin lnb and a old dish 300 with a dp single lnb, no switch and my sub reciver on the first port of the dpp lnb and the jynx box on the second port of the dpp lnb, third port is for the dish 300 lnb in,
i have no problems with this setup.

sneakymise
11-24-2012, 06:41 PM
i have clients usign legacy lnbs for 110-119 in conjunction with an sw21 having issues. Sometimes the dish settings will only see 110 no matter what settings are used and sometimes they only see 119. So its hell to do a good scan.
What I did is scanned bpoth sats individually bypassing the sw21 and get a great scan. But once i put back the sw21 (sat cable not in receiver while doing this) I still have problems switching from one sat to the other. Some channels will have no signal and others will.
Replaced the sw21 and still same issue. This has happened to 3 clients in the last month.
Has anyone else had this issue?
I cant tell my clients to run a 2nd cable line in the house for the sole purpose of powering the lnbs.. Thats just not an option.

Apart from that, the jynxbox has made many great improvements in the last couple of months. Picture quality is at par with sv8000 on side by side comparison. Using remote extender greatly improves range.

lilspit1
11-25-2012, 12:14 AM
There are issues.
Please see my earlier post.
post http://phoenix.satfix.net/showthread.php?123273-jynxbox-V1-amp-V2-freezes-and-locks-up

I spent all day fooling with the jynxbox V2. I increased my bandwidth, factory reset, reloaded the factory bin then 217 and loaded servers 1 at a time resetting after each try. The jynxbox froze almost every 5 minutes. with each server I tried. I put my Limesat back in place after every try using the same server and it ran without an issue.

daryld
11-25-2012, 12:24 AM
I do understand that if I change my equipment (do away with the DPP44) I would have different results, but that is my point. I have five other stb's all working fine with this current setup. I do hope that JB continues to work toward resolving those issues, because it does have great potential. It just has not reached it yet and I am tired enough of it to shelve it for now...

funkycold
11-25-2012, 02:23 AM
Did you try a BLIND Scan?
For me it brought back all the channels. It takes time but it is well worth it.

BTW, its the only unit capable of Blind Scan.
A BLIND scan First Scans for Available TP's, then Scans Those TP's.
So it realy cant miss any channels.

funkycold
11-25-2012, 02:24 AM
Try Bin 207, See if the freezing is solved.
Bin 217 is fairly new and may have an issue with your server.

What server are you using?

daryld
11-25-2012, 02:18 PM
Try Bin 207, See if the freezing is solved.
Bin 217 is fairly new and may have an issue with your server.

What server are you using?

I don't have freezing issues with it. I have issues with slow connections of my ps's. I have four ps's altogether, no need to name them. 217 doesn't seem to be any better or worse than the last few bins as far as the problems I'm outlining go. I will try a blind scan, plenty of time these days.......

vader2.3
11-26-2012, 07:08 PM
Im finding also theres a few things I dont like about mine. Im not sure wether its just cause its new and im not used to it or what . I have issues with the guide. I can watch the tv in guide and see the channel in the corner and when I select it some times I wont get it. Do a reboot and it works fine on that channel again. It seems just to be a bit tempermental. The sv360 ran no probs. Really dont know why I upgraded off it now. Shoulda left well enough alone. Lol but i wanted hd. I think in the next few bins it might just get straightened out. I have faith

daryld
11-26-2012, 08:31 PM
Tried a blind scan on 72.7 and it is much better. I am going to try a couple others and see how it handles 72.7 vs 100/119...it's not on the shelf yet.... :-)

crazy carl
11-26-2012, 11:08 PM
Im finding also theres a few things I dont like about mine. Im not sure wether its just cause its new and im not used to it or what . I have issues with the guide. I can watch the tv in guide and see the channel in the corner and when I select it some times I wont get it. Do a reboot and it works fine on that channel again. It seems just to be a bit tempermental. The sv360 ran no probs. Really dont know why I upgraded off it now. Shoulda left well enough alone. Lol but i wanted hd. I think in the next few bins it might just get straightened out. I have faith

good to see people are still testing, there are many ways to achieve desired results but if you always rely on coders to do all the work, then it isn't a hobby anymore..happy testing

vago
11-27-2012, 03:21 AM
hey daryld try this it works for me take the cover off take the fan your wife uses in summer time leave in for a few minutes in you will dee the diference in signal up and servers connecting fast and the remote will work like the ones on viewsats

Nostradamus
11-27-2012, 04:06 AM
hey daryld try this it works for me take the cover off take the fan your wife uses in summer time leave in for a few minutes in you will dee the diference in signal up and servers connecting fast and the remote will work like the ones on viewsats
if you are finding adding cooling is helping then I think you probably have a faulty unit as they don't run near as warm as other HD boxes

daryld
11-27-2012, 05:07 PM
Vago,thanks for the tip but Nostradamus is correct. My stb is not running hot and if yours is you should have that checked out.I have found that blind scanning has done the trick, as far as scanning issues go. I have all the available channels and tp's scanned now using blind scan. This should be standard for everyone using this stb, IMHO. The slow connection issue is still apparent occasionally, as are the remote issues, but I think the JBHD will stay where it is for now, in the living room.

vago
11-27-2012, 08:26 PM
thanks daryld gonna send back to seller still under warranty

daryld
11-27-2012, 09:18 PM
Scratch that last post of mine. I have so many doubles, triple and quadruple channels from the blind scan it's going to take me all night to delete them.......

AeonFlux
11-27-2012, 09:27 PM
Mine is not running hot. I have power inserter for my DPP LNBs so my Jynx is not stressed by that load at all. I run mine 24/7.

daryld,

Way easier...

Do a factory default, reset you sats, and hand scan each TP on AUTO [RED].

Mr Hanky
11-27-2012, 09:37 PM
Bottom line is this stb has failed to live up to its advertised expectations.One step forward 2 steps back.lmao.

iq180
11-27-2012, 10:32 PM
Scratch that last post of mine. I have so many doubles, triple and quadruple channels from the blind scan it's going to take me all night to delete them.......
thats is the trouble with blind scan, look at your TPs, if you see 1 tp like 12224 and then another 1 like 12225, you need to delete
the 12225 tp, go to lyngsat and look at the tp list & add delete or edit to match there list then do a manual scan on each tp.

daryld
11-28-2012, 12:37 AM
iq180, thanks I do understand I can manually scan each tp. That, in a way, is the issue for me. I have had, in the last five years, 16 different stb's, all of which scanned more or less correctly from the beginning. I am just hoping that JB will address the most basic issues that need to be addressed before coming out with more new products. I have found that what works best for scanning for me so far is to hard reboot the stb after factory reset. Then, scan , say, 119. When scan is finished, do a hard reboot and scan my second sat. After that, another hard reboot and then the third, and so on. This seems to produce the best for me so far. I have faith in JB. I hope they will prioritize these basics first, though

phat
11-28-2012, 04:19 PM
What has been described here is mostly related to a lot of changes recently. I would hold tight for a new update. Also, are you guys doing factory reset after loading files?

daryld
11-28-2012, 05:11 PM
What has been described here is mostly related to a lot of changes recently. I would hold tight for a new update. Also, are you guys doing factory reset after loading files?

Not only factory reset but hard reboot as well. thnx

Lowteck
11-29-2012, 04:17 PM
I think the designers of the Jynxbox did not realize what was needed to have a smooth FTA box. They then got their fingers in too many pies, and now are not able to address all their problems in a timely manner. Time will be needed to solve all their problems, lets just hope that they stick with their guns and do just that and not give up and do a new redesign and use what they have learned. I have seen this happen before. Just not good PR!

homer_™
11-29-2012, 04:46 PM
I think the designers of the Jynxbox did not realize what was needed to have a smooth FTA box. They then got their fingers in too many pies, and now are not able to address all their problems in a timely manner. Time will be needed to solve all their problems, lets just hope that they stick with their guns and do just that and not give up and do a new redesign and use what they have learned. I have seen this happen before. Just not good PR!

I agree that they are trying to accomplish several things at once, but I don't think it's a negative thing. There's more talk in the forums about Jynxbox than any other current box on the market.. Whether it's good or bad people are still talking...

The dual tuner thing has just started, and the dual 8psk tuner option will be something nobody has ever done before...It shouldn't be a surprise that such a thing is a work in progress...

If they just simply ironed out the basic complaints such as the pvr, and the 24 hour clock and called it a day where's the intrigue?
I find it far more interesting to read about and test something that hasn't been done before, than something that's been done 10 times over. Since the dealers can't keep these things in stock it's evident that others do too.

nava
11-29-2012, 09:22 PM
Bottom line this unit is very slow and missing lots of master mind pieces by this time they should have fix these issues, instead of introducing a new model. How would invest your money into android HD when your previous model failed to stand. my open box s10 works better and do blind scan better than jynx. JB doesn't work well with dpp switches well at this time

AeonFlux
11-29-2012, 11:55 PM
Bottom line is that the vast majority of Jynxbox owners got a very inexpensive HD receiver with a great picture and a few minor flaws. It has a nice EPG. And oh did I mention that I didn't spend $400-500US on it?

But then again, I am a tester. I take my time and read. I have been in the game for a long time. I see this as more of a tester's box. You would have known that by reading all the threads B4 you bought it. I knew it going in. I have had hours of fun testing this box. I have had many hours of pleasure watching this box. It sure isn't perfect and I wish they would fix a few things, but again, I knew that going in.

So, maybe it would be best if you set the box aside until they do get this all settled. In the mean time I will be enjoying the crap outa mine.

Anubis
11-30-2012, 12:30 AM
Bottom line this unit is very slow and missing lots of master mind pieces by this time they should have fix these issues, instead of introducing a new model. How would invest your money into android HD when your previous model failed to stand. my open box s10 works better and do blind scan better than jynx. JB doesn't work well with dpp switches well at this time

Jyxnbox did not introduce a new model. The Ultra is a FTA media unit and the Jynxbox Android is a straight media unit and is not capable of FTA. 2 totally different units altogether.

phat
12-01-2012, 02:21 AM
Bottom line. It does ATSC, DVBS2, Turbo, Dual tuner, 1080p, MicroSD, Media Player and its inexpensive. I can't name another box that comes close. They have released a new file, they have kept up support and fixed issues while adding features. Nothing more to ask for.