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rudee
01-24-2013, 04:54 PM
COMMENTARY | There are few human beings who know the sport of boxing as intimately as El Gran Campeon Mexicano, Julio Cesar Chavez.

The three-division Hall of Fame superstar, who retired with a remarkable record of 107-6-2 with 86 KOs, is regarded by many as the greatest Mexican fighter of all-time-- a truly weighty title considering the long lineage of great warriors from the Aztec Nation. Chavez's battles with Meldrick Taylor, Roger Mayweather, Edwin Rosario, Rocky Lockridge, and Frankie Randall helped turn the native of Culiacan, Sinaloa into a legendary figure whose every word is of massive importance to fight fans south of the border.

The 50-year-old legend recently sat down with Sadiel Lebrón of ESPN Deportes to talk about a variety of issues ranging from his take on some of the sport's biggest stars to the status of his son's career.

On who will be boxing's next pound-for-pound best:

"It's hard to pick one, but I definitely think Nonito Donaire has demonstrated that he is one of the best in the world. I think Donaire will be the one to reign over the sport."

On Floyd Mayweather:

"Floyd Mayweather goes too long between fights. At his age, fighting so infrequently can take its toll and it's likely to happen sooner rather than later."

On Saul "Canelo" Alvarez:

"Canelo is a young, strong kid with a lot of ability, but he has not fought anyone. I think he should fight with Austin Trout, who just beat Miguel Cotto, to prove that he's ready for a fight with Floyd Mayweather."

On his son Julio Jr. and the controversy after testing positive for marijuana post-Sergio Martinez loss:

"We all make mistakes. He did not smoke marijuana, they were simply some drops, like I told you, like it's already been said. But I think Julio is going to retake his career, He's a young man whose dream is boxing. He loves it and I think he's going to come back better than ever."

On whether Julio Jr. deserves a rematch with Sergio Martinez:

"Yes, of course. Julio gave the opportunity to Martinez. I think Julio won the right to a rematch with his performance in the twelfth round, where he knocked Martinez down and was about to knock him out."

Chavez's take on these issues pretty much mirrors conventional boxing wisdom. For instance, when it comes to the well-regarded Donaire, his place as possible top pound-for-pound talent is pretty much guaranteed as Mayweather, Marquez, Pacquiao, and Martinez head toward a not-too-distant retirement. "The Filipino Flash" will have company at the top as Andre Ward will likely keep his undefeated record for the foreseeable future, but few question Donaire and Ward as the immediate heirs to the P4P throne.

Chavez also reflects popular opinion in asserting that Saul Alvarez should face Austin Trout next before moving on to a Mayweather bout.

And, of course, it makes sense that, even with some rough patches between the two in recent months, Chavez would defend his son's honor and insist that he get a crack at redemption via Sergio Martinez rematch.

What was new, though, was his take on Floyd Mayweather and the immediate future of the controversial five-division world champ.

What seldom gets brought up in the boxing media is that Mayweather, who will turn 36 in February, is, indeed, being adversely affected by his lack of activity.

Whether fans care to admit it or not, Mayweather has shown definite signs of slowing down in recent bouts. His legs are not as sturdy as they once were and his reflexes have slowed down with age. The dazzling, dominant performances of the prime Mayweather have been replaced by competent victories won by guile and a genius level ring IQ. A lot of the slowdown can be attributed to age, but it has certainly been aided by a once-a-year fight schedule since 2007 that has left Mayweather less than 100% ring-sharp.

The inactivity and an increasingly younger crop of opposition will eventually get the best of Floyd-- if he sticks around long enough.

Chavez, after nearly twenty-five years of stellar career, obviously knows his stuff. Only time will tell if he's as good at predicting the future as he was at dominating his opponents.

Fibroso
01-24-2013, 05:40 PM
My 5 year old grandson could've thought of that....... it happens all the time.


The inactivity and an increasingly younger crop of opposition will eventually get the best of Floyd-- if he sticks around long enough.

rudee
01-24-2013, 10:54 PM
Only a 5 year old grandson Blackie???? my goodness you must be a young man!
Or did you forget the "great" :tehe:

rudee
01-24-2013, 11:04 PM
Yeah,, Julio made a lotta sense with the Canelo and Nonito talk.
Nonito is the class boxing act right now... he leaves no doubt in his fights.
Knocks em cold or its a one sided decision. Plus,, he never gets hurt.

As I have stated before, I have no respect for once a year fighters... take the money
and run. Floyd will pick his opponents carefully. Make his 20 mil and take off for a year again.

Trout is begging for Canelo,, Canelo wants no part of him. Wants a rematch with Lopez! ha ha ha!!!!

Yep,, Pavlik made a wise choice. Said his heart was not in boxing anymore. Hell, I could see that
2 or 3 fights ago. Plus if you notice, when he fights he gets pretty busted up.
He is a really nice guy. Have read about him. Always gives his opponent his due.
Lets just hope he saved some dough. But ya know, he is a blue collar guy. He would be
happy working an 8 hour day and having some beers with the boys after.
Actually, I did that for years and years... Had a good time.
Best of luck Kelly, thanks for the good fights.

Condor
01-25-2013, 12:28 AM
Yeah,, Julio made a lotta sense with the Canelo and Nonito talk.
Nonito is the class boxing act right now... he leaves no doubt in his fights.
Knocks em cold or its a one sided decision. Plus,, he never gets hurt.

As I have stated before, I have no respect for once a year fighters... take the money
and run. Floyd will pick his opponents carefully. Make his 20 mil and take off for a year again.

Trout is begging for Canelo,, Canelo wants no part of him. Wants a rematch with Lopez! ha ha ha!!!!

Yep,, Pavlik made a wise choice. Said his heart was not in boxing anymore. Hell, I could see that
2 or 3 fights ago. Plus if you notice, when he fights he gets pretty busted up.
He is a really nice guy. Have read about him. Always gives his opponent his due.
Lets just hope he saved some dough. But ya know, he is a blue collar guy. He would be
happy working an 8 hour day and having some beers with the boys after.
Actually, I did that for years and years... Had a good time.
Best of luck Kelly, thanks for the good fights.
But will Pavlik stay away..that is the question.. As far as Chavez is concerned.. I lost all respect and credibility when he never had the Cojones to admit ever getting beat.... I dont consider him the greatest Mexican fighter.. Maybe top ten...As far as Jr. is concerned as they say "the apple doesnt fall far from the tree" or something like that as Pops hung out with "Narcos" did Coke and who knows what else... JMO...

rudee
01-25-2013, 12:46 AM
I really think Pavlik will stay away... he actually said he really did not have much talent.. just a punch.
He is really a down to earth midwesterner family man... I think his peers kinda forced him into boxing.
He pretty much said he got tired of being hit... one interview i read. Plus the training is sometimes
worse than the fight.
Anyway,, hope he stays retired.

Fibroso
01-25-2013, 02:24 AM
Nonito looks very good like a western hemisphere fighter should but he needs to show me what he can do to Guillermo Rigondeaux, then he can be consider the best in his weight class. He also needs to keep growing into the 130 weight class were he would find guys that will take him on toe to toe, punch by punch.

rudee, I have a year old grandson he looks like me in 1950, with curls like Shirley Temple, also a 21 year old, no "great" yet.... but it wont be long.
The 5 year old I talked about has the prettiest blue eyes you can ever imagine, like the waters of the Caribbean sea.

rudee
01-25-2013, 05:00 PM
Wow Blackie,,,, we may have a movie star in the makings there with the grandson.. sounds like a handsome lad.
Good for you and the family! I know what you mean about the blue eyes,, my vieja has em.
A good trait to have. Mine are ****ty brown. :-(

Agreed on Nonito.. needs to go up in weight... fight the bigger boys. He has a big torso he can do it.. and big legs.
He said he was moving up.. lets hope he does.
But that being said amigo, he fights and keeps active,,, can't think of a better pound for pound fighter than him.
Anybody seen Canelo?? yoo hoo!!!
Looking forward to seeing Broner and Garcia fight again... top prospects fer shur!

Fibroso
01-25-2013, 06:00 PM
That's exactly why he needs to fight the best, to many undefeated fighter around. If you don't lose you must be good.