Rigondeaux schools Donaire

[Gamer]

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By Chris Williams: WBA super bantamweight champion Guillermo Rigondeaux (12-0, 8 KO’s) easily defeated WBO super bantamweight champion Nonito Donaire (31-2, 20 KO’s) by an easy 12 round unanimous decision at the Radio City Music Hall in New York, New York. The final judges scores were 114-113, 115-112, and 116-111.


Donaire was dominated in the first 9 rounds and then scored a knockdown in the 10th round.Rigondeaux then came back and resumed his dominance in easily winning rounds 11 and 12.
The judges scores were a total joke. The only score that was Reasonably close to what actually happened in the ring was the 116-111. Donaire was never in the fight and was missing all night long and looking tentative and scared. He was too slow and kept missing.


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[Fibroso]

The judges scores were a total joke. The only score that was Reasonably close to what actually happened in the ring was the 116-111. Donaire was never in the fight and was missing all night long and looking tentative and scared. He was too slow and kept missing.
Not only that , Nonito himself said " it was a close fight", yea right, he wasn't there himself. They just kicked his butt badly,so he's leaving the 122 division, he wont fight Rigo again unless he goes up to 126. What a joke, Latino fighters are just getting back to the grove.

[Fibroso]

In the 12th round, it was Rigondeaux that game out fast, tagging Donaire with a huge left hand to the head that had Donaire grabbing his right eye immediately in pain. For the remainder of the round, Rigondeaux hit Donaire at will, while Donaire could only cover up his injured eye and occasionally throw a wild left hook like a drunk.

In the post-fight interview, Rigondeaux said “I made him look the way he looked, which was bad. I was boxing, moving, and he was frustrated. He’s an excellent fighter with a good punch, but with one punch you can’t win a fight.”
Donaire said: “I thought it was very, very close.”
It wasn’t close and Donaire is going to find that out later on tonight when he watches the fight on replay. He was totally schooled by Rigondeaux and made to look as bad ad Donaire made his previous opponents look.
During the interview, Donaire claimed that he had tore ligaments in his shoulder several fights ago and he needed surgery. The crowd didn’t buy the excuse from Donaire and loudly booed him. Donaire said he wants to move up to featherweight and fight Rigondeaux in a rematch up there because he says he’s having a hard time making weight for the super bantamweight division.
From Chris also...

[Gamer]

I am not a fan of a fighter running away but thats on donaire for not engaging enough as he knew what was coming back at him.The score cards were more than generous with donaire.

[ELMATADOR]

I am not a fan of a fighter running away but thats on donaire for not engaging enough as he knew what was coming back at him.The score cards were more than generous with donaire.

I am with you (not a fan of a run and hit boxer) but where the hell was Donaire? Who is the impostor in the ring? It was a boring fight!

[Highwayman]

Good fight now we have to hear from that
arse Teddy Atlas he called it at friday nite fights....

Atlas bugs me sounds like he has a mouth full
of crackers when he talks!

[steven charles]

yes he got whipped i kind of laugh when they ask garcia if he was worried on the score card around the beginning of the 7 round and he said it was close 3 rounds to three,lol,,i got him he only winning 1 round when he knocked down guillermo and he got up quick....

[Fibroso]

We found out that Nonito is just a puncher, if the fight goes the distance and he can't get his blow, he is just another fighter. No wonder they skipped Guillermo for a long time, Arum is no fool. By the way he was absent of the ring last night. Let Donaire go up to the 126 weight class, he'll find good competition there. If the money is good for Guillermo, Nonito will get another beating. Verdejo is on his way, watch out for the young Rican.

[rudee]

Well,, so much for Matador's 6 reason's and me agreeing with him... was not even close.
Once Nonito got tagged in the first round.... that was it. He knew he could get hurt...
He didn't rush in anymore... We wondered how nonito would react when someone hit him hard,
well, now we know... he abandoned his rush in reckless style... the Cuban's right hand was waiting.
Was it my imagination... or did anyone else catch nonito's midsection.. looked soft to me... no muscle
tone at all... looked fleshy... wonder if Nonito was in tip top shape? he did not resemble the old Nonito at all.
But no doubt about it... he got taken to the wood shed... you see that eye?
Agree with the above, was not a very exciting fight for all the hype over it... 2 counter punchers who
were afraid of getting hit by the other..
I would like to see a rematch... Nonito was not too thrilled about it...wish the announcer woulda asked
the Cuban if he would give Nonito a rematch...
I was surprised to hear the people boo... but guess they paid plenty to see an exciting match,,, and it wasn't.
I think I gave Nonito 3 rounds....including the knockdown.
Good job Fib... you picked the winner!

[steven charles]

Well,, so much for Matador's 6 reason's and me agreeing with him... was not even close.
Once Nonito got tagged in the first round.... that was it. He knew he could get hurt...
He didn't rush in anymore... We wondered how nonito would react when someone hit him hard,
well, now we know... he abandoned his rush in reckless style... the Cuban's right hand was waiting.
Was it my imagination... or did anyone else catch nonito's midsection.. looked soft to me... no muscle
tone at all... looked fleshy... wonder if Nonito was in tip top shape? he did not resemble the old Nonito at all.
But no doubt about it... he got taken to the wood shed... you see that eye?
Agree with the above, was not a very exciting fight for all the hype over it... 2 counter punchers who
were afraid of getting hit by the other..
I would like to see a rematch... Nonito was not too thrilled about it...wish the announcer woulda asked
the Cuban if he would give Nonito a rematch...
I was surprised to hear the people boo... but guess they paid plenty to see an exciting match,,, and it wasn't.
I think I gave Nonito 3 rounds....including the knockdown.
Good job Fib... you picked the winner!sorry bro,i don,t think there would be a rematch on this one,you heard nonito that his moving up to 126 pounds,by his reactions sounded like he wouldn,t want a rematch with guillermo,my feeling that he really bust him up and sounded like he was scared i don,t think i never seen anybody whipped him like guillermo,but if there was a rematch you would expect the same whipped again,like they say theres always somebody better then us somewhere....

[rudee]

Nonito didnt sound too excited about a rematch... guess it wasn't in the contract.. usually is.
BUT,,, the Cuban is big.... i got a 3 dollar bill says the Cuban moves up in weight too.
Not much competition left at their current weights.
Cuban style does not make for exciting bouts,,, but i guess thats
why they call it "the art of self defense"

[KIDWCKED]

Max Kellerman stated that it was a performance for purists???Hmmm...Rigonde fought way to defensive...Jmo...Has speed and power no doubt but does run from aggression...He should have ko'ed Donaire in the 12th for sure....As far as Donaire well that was a horrible performance!!!!And i'm sure it hurt his credibility...Jmo....

[Fibroso]

The loss column: Beating Nonito Donaire won't do much for Guillermo Rigondeaux's popularitySun, Apr 14, 2013 1:34 AM EDT



http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/qSuu40TUigo5xCx8YeRznw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/AP_Boxing/201304140005003451161-p2.jpgNonito Donaire and Guillermo Rigondeaux exchange punches during their fight. (AP)

NEW YORK – Guillermo Rigondeaux was a loser even on the night he scored the most significant victory of his professional career. The two-time Olympic gold medalist raised his record to 12-0 Saturday by outboxing Nonito Donaire in their super bantamweight championship match. Judge John Stewart had it 114-113. Tom Schreck scored it 115-112 and Julie Lederman had it 116-111. Yahoo! Sports scored it 114-113 for Rigondeaux, matching Stewart's card in every round.
After the fight, standing defiantly with his belts draped over his shoulders and his hands on his hips, Rigondeaux proclaimed himself a legend.
"I'm a Hall of Famer at 12-0," Rigondeaux exclaimed.

Few agreed with him. The sellout crowd of 6,145 at Radio City Music Hall booed lustily throughout, unhappy with Rigondeaux's defensive wizardry. Rigondeaux spun, ducked, danced and made Donaire look bad repeatedly in winning a unanimous decision.
Asked why the crowd booed, Rigondeaux beamed.

"I was the matador and he was the bull," Rigondeaux said. "They don't like seeing the matador."


Donaire, who said after the fight that he had a shoulder injury that will require surgery, lost the decision because of a lack of action. Rigondeaux was excellent defensively, but Donaire simply didn't throw enough punches.
He was pursuing Rigondeaux for most of the fight, but he was frequently ineffective.


"It was my mistake for not changing up during the fight," Donaire said. "I didn't do my job. I didn't use my jab and go to the left. I have no excuse. He beat me tonight. It was close. I gave it all I got." http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/YOu8tcgL4dhA9FWEFO_W1Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/USA_Today/20130413_ajl_se8_210-a6f580eea7da25de607bb412b8bbc4c7Nonito Donaire and Guillermo Rigondeaux trade punches. (USA Today Sports)
With a potential surgery looming and impending fatherhood – his wife, Rachel, is expecting their first child in July – Donaire is probably off until the fall, at which point he'll likely be a featherweight.
It won't be hard to sell him, because Donaire has appeared in a series of entertaining fights. But the outcome left promoter Bob Arum wondering what to do with Rigondeaux.

Championship titles don't necessarily sell tickets; exciting fights and action do. Rigondeaux is superb in making his opponent miss, but he doesn't counter nearly enough to win a large percentage of the fan base.
"We fought the Cuban boxing way: Hit and don't get hit," Rigondeaux trainer Pedro Diaz said. "We made Donaire look very bad."
In the process, though, he didn't make himself look that good either. Rigondeaux simply didn't throw enough punches. Floyd Mayweather Jr., one of the great defensive combatants in recent history, fights defensively like Rigondeaux and makes his opponent miss, but Mayweather brings the added element of landing clean, counter punches.
Rigondeaux did none of that and, as a result, is going to be a hard sell for Arum.

"I'm 81 years old and I'm probably going to have to do the best promoting job I've ever done," he said, laughing.
Arum, though, made a point when he noted that Rigondeaux has enough pop in his fists to be dangerous. Donaire clearly felt Rigondeaux's power in the final two rounds.
Rigondeaux simply didn't make him feel it often enough.

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/JT0SGxn7Jz4rCuHYno5rIg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/USA_Today/20130413_ajl_se8_211-efb955859a02cd442936f3b953af0688Nonito Donaire and Guillermo Rigondeaux trade punches during their fight. (USA Today Sports)
"It was the exact opposite of the last two HBO fights we had," Arum said. "It was not a very engaging fight. … When Rigondeaux stands and fights, the [expletive] has a lot of power and a lot of skill, but running the way he does really makes it not a watchable fight. I had Donaire up by one point heading into the 11th, but clearly, Rigondeaux won the last two rounds. Clearly."

Welterweight champion Timothy Bradley, a friend of Donaire's, called the fight on the Top Rank international feed. He had Rigondeaux winning 114-113 and said how one scored it depended upon the style one prefers. Those who prefer slick boxers sided with Rigondeaux and those who like the aggressor would have sided with Donaire, Bradley said.
He laughed at the fans booing the action.
"That guy put on a great boxing clinic," Bradley said. "But boxing has changed in the last 20 years or so. People want to see action; they want to see guys just tearing into each other. The slick boxers, hit and don't be hit, they're not as much into that."
And that's why it was not a stellar night for Rigondeaux despite his big victory. It's not likely that many who watched the fight will be eagerly awaiting news of his next bout.
He's an elite fighter, but he's in no way an entertainer.

[Fibroso]

People aren't use to see crafty pugilists anymore, they want blood like in the old Roman days. Now Guillermo will probably be forgoten cause he beat Arum golden eggs chicken. That 's the way he punishes boxers. Nonito will end up in Macau or Singapore, hehehe. Well we still have Mares, so there's money to be made...........


http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/178323-video-real-talk-with-abner-mares

[ELMATADOR]

People aren't use to see crafty pugilist anymore, they want blood like in the old Roman days. Now Guillermo will probably be forgoten cause he beat Arum gold egg chicken. That 's the way he punishes boxers. Nonito will end up in Macau or Singapore, hehehe. Well we still have Mares, so there's money to be made...........


http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/178323-video-real-talk-with-abner-mares

Boxing, like most sports today, have to compete with all kinds of media entertainment. GATTI-WARD and RIOS-ALVARADO are a good example of what is today considered "highly entertaining". UFC's Anderson Silva was booed widely when he danced around an opponent avoiding to engage. It was one bout that nearly bounced him off UFC. All that of course has changed. Action, lots of it, is what sells. "Afraid to get hit" will have a boxer quickly forgotten, no matter how talented.

[Fibroso]

"Afraid to get hit"

Not letting your opponent use his power to hurt you is not being afraid to get hit. Not when you are kicking his butt while you are at it. All the evidence is in your opponent's face. Never in my life seen a latino pugilist with more than 400 fights as an amateur to be afraid of getting hit by any average puncher. Now I do have seen (super) fighters go down lately.

[rudee]

I agree that the Cuban is an excellent fighter. Great boxing skills and a very good puncher.
I also have to say that the turning point of the entire fight was the first round when Rigo hit Nonito
with a big left hand and looked like the ropes held Nonito up. He tasted the the Cuban's power and
knew he had and could be hurt... he didnt try too hard after that. Probably first time he had ever
been hurt. Sure he chased Rigo around the ring, but never threw more than one punch nor any jabs.
Afraid to be countered.
I do agree with T. Bradley though... Rigo will not be a big draw because of his style. Sure, he is a purist.
BUT,,, people pay top dollar and HBO and Showtime pay really top dollar for these fights. They want brawls.
Brawls pack them in. Especially in Vegas where people bet and eat and DRINK... they expect to see some
action for their dollar.. In a cockfight where there is gambling and drinking and whatever,,, you don't wanna
see one cock prancing around ducking the other... he gets bar b qued. Same principal.
To me,,, the Cuban won big, boring fight, Nonito did not look in top shape to me.
Don't really care if there is a rematch or not.
And last but not least. Nonito's wife should dress more conservatively for Nonito's fights.
Thats this man's opinion. But then if haven't been right since I voted for Harry Truman.

[Fibroso]

Wow, you voted for Harry, he blew up Hiroshima and Nagasaki and started the Korean war. I thought he wasn't ever elected to office. You voted for him? hahahaha. You are older than Aqua!:offtopic1:

[rudee]

Harry won after he took over from FDR.... i know, I had just turned 21!!
He also fired McArthur....
Yeah,,, Aqua has me by about 10 years...
Wonder where he is? ya don't think he passed on do ya?
Aqua, donde estas?
(all in good fun) wish he would post again. We are hurting for posters.
Fib and I have turned into a comedy team....

[aquariusone]

Harry won after he took over from FDR.... i know, I had just turned 21!!
He also fired McArthur....
Yeah,,, Aqua has me by about 10 years...
Wonder where he is? ya don't think he passed on do ya?
Aqua, donde estas?
(all in good fun) wish he would post again. We are hurting for posters.
Fib and I have turned into a comedy team....

Just because I have been quiet does not mean I don't keep up with your musings!!!!
I am alive and well and enjoying myself. I am fully retired and find that I am too busy....doing nothing.

As for boxing, let me tell you what I have in mind:
1) Donaire is a bum...his personal motivation is to "become a Pacquiao"
2) Unlike Pacquiao who overcame utter poverty through his love for boxing, Donaire was "forced into boxing".
3) Donaire (and his wife Rachel) were greatly envious of Manny and Jinkee. It was Rachel that forced Nonito into the ring
4) And Rudee is right, Donaire is scared sh#tless about getting hit
5) Fortunately, Donaire has some natural talent, power, and speed. What he lacks is "killer instinct".
6) On Canelo-Trout, Canelo may squeeze by the fish by a close margin
7) Finally, look for PACQUIAO-ALVARADO in October

[steven charles]

the way i see it guillermo beat or whipped nonito,but the problem with that a lot of people don,t like fighters that hit and run around the ring,guillermo won the fight but he didn,t win the people,thats the what counts more,who fills the arena but i don,t see guillermo getting a lot a fights in the future mostly because his style,but he did showed every other boxer how they can defeat nonito,but will see what happens in the next six more or to see if theres any takers.....

[Fibroso]

Told ya rudee, You brought back Aqua from the grave. Welcome old champ, we missed you. Had no one to fight with.hahaha

[aquariusone]

Told ya rudee, You brought back Aqua from the grave. Welcome old champ, we missed you. Had no one to fight with.hahaha

Never thought of it as "fighting"...more like arm wrestling over nachos and tequila!

[rudee]

Ha ha ha.... welcome back Aqua.. stay awhile. we all get along here... sometimes we get
a little excited and the fingers and the mind go crazy...
I guess the old saying "the pen is mightier than the sword" holds up here sometimes.
But we mean no harm...its like fighting with the wife...fight one day, smooch the next.
I do agree with all you posted Aqua... Nonito got hit and never threw any combinations the rest of
the fight... and NO jabs.... his corner kept telling him,, throw jabs and combinations!!! he didn't.
Only gonna get worse when he moves up in weight,, those guys hit hard.
I like the Fish here....hit and move. Do admire Canelo for making the fight though.
Good to see Steven Charles back too! Everybody coming back to life here.
Did i read someplace that Trout went to Mexico and beat up Canelo's brother? Think i did.
Now will go to San Antonio and fight in front of all Mex/Americans.. Big huevos on that Fish.
Read today Floyd is pissed that Canelo left his undercard and is going to fight in front of 40,000
people, plus Showtime... many more than Floyd will draw..
Ok, i'll shut up.

[Fibroso]

Yep ,you better shut before you get:offtopic1: It's everyone ready? " Lets get ready to rumble". We still have a few more good fights coming, lets discuss them here and have some fun. Enjoy

[rudee]

Well,,, i gotta cover a lotta topics Fib... if i dont cover em all really fast, I forget!
Give an old viejo a break!

[Condor]

I am not a fan of a fighter running away but thats on donaire for not engaging enough as he knew what was coming back at him.The score cards were more than generous with donaire.

Isn't that the object of boxing???.. Lol.. To hit and not get hit???.. Hehehheeee Those judges were extremely generous with "Monito"...Lol..

[Fibroso]

Well,,, i gotta cover a lotta topics Fib... if i dont cover em all really fast, I forget!
Give an old viejo a break!

Sure old man, we viejos mustn't waist a good opportunity when available. My old man used to tell me " after 60 don't waste going to a bathroom when you see one, cause you may piss yourself later on". Also, an erection cause you may not have one in weeks, months or years. hehehe

[steven charles]

Sure old man, we viejos mustn't waist a good opportunity when available. My old man used to tell me " after 60 don't waste going to a bathroom when you see one, cause you may piss yourself later on". Also, an erection cause you may not have one in weeks, months or years. hehehegood one fibroso,lol,,hope i can still get one by the time i,m 60+,lol,,

[Fibroso]

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk318/fibroso/731698_8_zps6ad790ea.jpg (http://s283.photobucket.com/user/fibroso/media/731698_8_zps6ad790ea.jpg.html)
Rigo's power jab in action.............

Arum and Nonito ducked Mares, you herd it from Mares. That's why he invaded 126 pound division. After the whipping, Nonito is gone have to face Mares

[rudee]

So now EVERYBODY is going to 126.... going to have to fight each other at that weight.
Maybe Nonito vs Rigo again? At 126?

[El Chido®]

So now EVERYBODY is going to 126.... going to have to fight each other at that weight.
Maybe Nonito vs Rigo again? At 126?

Would Really Love to be a Witness of That!!....

[Fibroso]

So now EVERYBODY is going to 126.... going to have to fight each other at that weight.
Maybe Nonito vs Rigo again? At 126?
You most include Juanma Lopez


Would Really Love to be a Witness of That!!....

He just won by KO in the second round in Mexico and is due to face Nonito in september.

[Gamer]

Yep. Arum talked about making a Nonito vs Juanma and Rocky Martinez vs Mikey Garcia happen here in PR