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Fibroso
05-09-2013, 11:09 PM
Floyd Mayweather Boxed into a Corner by Canelo Alvarez?By Paul Magno | Yahoo! Contributor Network – 18 hours ago




COMMENTARY | Saul "Canelo" Alvarez, unlike any fighter to set his sights on Floyd Mayweather before him, just may win a battle of wills against the controversial 5-division world champ. Unlike Robert Guerrero, who proved to be little challenge for Mayweather in a face to face fight on May 4, Alvarez is looking more and more like the big winner in his quest for a big money Mayweather bout on September 14.
Assuming that early reports are true and the Mayweather-Guerrero pay-per-view buy rate was an overall disappointment, Showtime and those with an actual vested economic interest in Mayweather's six-fight, thirty-month deal will likely be putting copious amounts of pressure on the fighter's team to pick things up with this next event. They'll likely want an opponent who can carry his end of the promotion and whip fans into a buying frenzy.
But looking out over the horizon at possible bouts with fighters from 140 to 154 lbs., there just aren't all that many bankable names who fit the bill of good guy to Mayweather's well-hyped bad guy.
There are a number of quality opponents available, but Mayweather is now in a position of having to sustain an empire and being a quality opponent is just not enough anymore. He has to fight someone who is either already a bankable draw or one who can be made a draw in the few months leading up to the fight. So, while bouts with the likes of Danny Garcia, coming up from 140, and Erislandy Lara at 154 may be interesting, they just wouldn't be able to generate enough buys. And, of course, forget any Top Rank fighter-Pacquiao, Bradley, Alvarado-because, as we should all know by now, Bob Arum would prefer to lose a dime than put a penny in Mayweather's pocket.
So, that leaves Saul Alvarez as the only reasonable, viable, and realistically possible opponent for Mayweather.
The 22-year-old WBC junior middleweight champ from Guadalajara has been a major draw in Mexico for the better part of two years and just proved his across-the-border appeal by bringing 40,000 screaming fans to San Antonio, Texas' Alamodome for his April 20 bout with Austin Trout. Since moving from HBO to Showtime, Alvarez has also registered two ratings hits for the network.
Given the substantial Mexican and Mexican-American hardcore boxing fan base in the United States, Canelo is a no-brainer for a Mayweather clash. And whether Mayweather likes it or not, he may be the only option on the table when it comes to a next fight.
For Alvarez, landing the Mayweather fight is a win-win proposition.
"If Canelo wins it is a great triumph for Canelo and all of Mexico," four-division world champ, Juan Manuel Marquez commented to Boxingscene . "If he loses he still wins because of the experience he gains from the fight. He won't lose from learning from a fight like that. That is why I say it is a win-win situation."

WBC president, Jose Sulaiman, however, is of a very different opinion.
"I think that Canelo Alvarez should take one or two more fights (before facing Mayweather)," Sulaiman told ESPN Deportes . "It would be an error to fight him (now)….the possibility of a victory now as compared to next year would be completely different...Canelo showed great advances in his bout with Trout, but Canelo is still very young and he should be worried about maintaining his place as world champion and as a Mexican idol for many more years and not get into his head a fight for a certain amount of money that would be better for him next year."

Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer will reportedly begin talks this week with Mayweather adviser, Al Haymon for a Mayweather-Alvarez bout in September, but there's no guarantee that any sort of deal will be worked out.
Mayweather, who has shown a real distaste for feeling cornered or pressured in pre-fight negotiations, may bristle at the idea of a list of potential opponents with just one name on it. Not too long ago Mayweather allowed Alvarez to remove his fight with Trout from the Mayweather-Guerrero undercard over a refusal to sign a contract to fight him next. At the time, Mayweather balked at the idea of a 22-year-old relative newcomer trying to issue ultimatums to him.
But things may have changed drastically since then.
Mayweather will need to follow up the Guerrero romp with a bout promising a more competitive tussle and one guaranteed to attract fan attention. Like it or not, Mayweather may have to swallow his pride for the first time in a long time, and accept that he has been boxed into a corner.
For "Money" Mayweather, it's Canelo or Bust on September 14.

rudee
05-10-2013, 04:04 AM
Broner said he would not fight Floyd... best of friends!

Fibroso
05-10-2013, 12:37 PM
Broner will sweep by Mallinaggi, and fight anyone in any weight that he can. His future is huge.
Going back to Canelo, Floyd will teach him how to fight and defeat him, move on and retire in the near future.
We are seeing an effort by the media to force this fight to take place just as they did with Pacquiao.
After the Pac debacle, Canelo was chosen. JMO

aquariusone
05-10-2013, 01:34 PM
Broner will sweep by Mallinaggi, and fight anyone in any weight that he can. His future is huge.
Going back to Canelo, Floyd will teach him how to fight and defeat him, move on and retire in the near future.
We are seeing an effort by the media to force this fight to take place just as they did with Pacquiao.
After the Pac debacle, Canelo was chosen. JMO

Am I hallucinating? Or has Fib turned into a Max Kellerman look-a-like? Sound-a-like, maybe? OK, maybe a Larry Merchant look-a-like! (With such witty perception)

Fibroso
05-10-2013, 02:41 PM
Am I hallucinating? Or has Fib turned into a Max Kellerman look-a-like? Sound-a-like, maybe? OK, maybe a Larry Merchant look-a-like! (With such witty perception)

Hehehehe, Thanks for even comparing myself to such of boxing celebrities. A few years back Canelo wasn't spoken of in the media, his mediocre opponents choosing was the talk of the day. 30 something fights against unknown boxers was talked about in all the spanish networks (ESPN deportes) etc. Mayweather was always linked to Manny in all boxing forums till that JMM event. Now we all know who is sounding loud and clear all over the world. You need to be like the three monkeys, deaf,blind and mute not to see the future. Cotto was the author of all this movement, refusing to fight Pac forcing Arum to fight JMM and putting Trout in the spot. Dear Aqua, I've learned some from you, the past is unchangeable.

rudee
05-10-2013, 10:54 PM
They will be too old by the time they fight each other.
The argument would be "yeah,, but who would of won when they were young?"
Like Holmes vs Tyson
Manny and Floyd will never lace them up.. scared sh.tless of each other.
Lets hope Floyd gets his act together and signs for Canelo... regardless of whom
we think would win. Its what the public wants!
Haglar and Hearns never hesitated! Neither did Leonard and Haglar, Hearns.
This is exactly why Floyd will not be mentioned with the greats!!!

Fibroso
05-11-2013, 01:37 PM
The wall standing between this two is Bob Arum, he owns Pac's mind and Floyd can't stand him.

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rudee
05-11-2013, 03:30 PM
Have to disagree Fib.... the fighters hire the promoters.... they call the shots. Especially at this level.
You know Floyd calls his OWN shots.... he can fight whomever he wants. Canelo?
What if we would have never seen Ali vs Frazier??????? cuz of promoters...
The fighters would have simply said...."SIGN THE FIGHT OR YER GONE!"
Its time to start blaming the super stars instead of the management! Its a copout!

Fibroso
05-11-2013, 03:47 PM
Well, here we go. If Manny is his own boss, why did he refused 40 mills,20 being sent within 48 hours? That is exactly what Floyd offer him. Guess who didn't like the offer? He wanted the negotiation through him cause he is the manager and promoter. Now,tell me when Manny last made that amount of dose-key?
Have you seen any human refuse 40 mills, must be a zombie.

rudee
05-11-2013, 09:10 PM
Who said they didn't want to fight in the USA anymore cuz the taxes were too high? Not Arum..
So Arum sent him to China..
Arum works for Manny.. not the other way around.
Did you ever send yer boss out for pizza and beer? doubt it..
Anyway,, I think we have been thru this before... many times.
Bottom line is,,, these two guys will never fight each other...
And,,, Floyd is doing the same thing with Canelo.... promoters fault? Floyd promotes himself
and Canelo already said "lets do it"
Who can we blame for this one?
Ok... enough of this...
Happy Mothers Day to all the Moms out there.

Fibroso
05-11-2013, 10:17 PM
One of the key stumbling blocks to making a Mayweather-Alvarez fight, however, will be settling on the weight. Mayweather is the welterweight champion -- 147 pounds -- who has twice won junior middleweight belts but never has weighed more than 151 pounds for either of those 154-pound maximum fights. Alvarez is a big junior middleweight and has said he was not interested in negotiating a catchweight that would require him to fight at a weight lower than 154.

Floyd is using Arum's techniques, he will fight Canelo at a catch weight of 151 pounds. You want the mills, you go down to 151. Floyd will defend his welterweight Crown. That's what everyone wants from Floyd, the mills.
Don't go away mad amigo, hehehehehe Give your madre querida un beso, que Dios le de salud a tu lado.
Happy Mothers Day to all the moms out there.

rudee
05-12-2013, 01:05 AM
Ha ha ha!!! No way would I get upset at you amigo Fib... This is a good discussion..
All of us have had this discussion many times before..
Only the fighters and their promoters know exactly what is happening..
We can only assume.
Seems us posters always come back to Floyd and Manny. Gotta quit giving them so much attention.
They don't deserve it..
Gracias for the Mother Day wishes amigo.. Abrazos a todas las Madrecitas en tu vida!!!