Update EPG not works???

[AeonFlux]

Just tried to update my epg. Went to 239. Put on epg and hit the blue button. The pop-up message comes up and the timer times but it does not update. What's up with that?

[rocketman4654]

Try 342 the western channel

[AeonFlux]

Yes, that not works too. Tried them all. Tried all the channels on the 44 hour EPG and a couple on the 9-day epg TP.

I have epg set for 3 days.

Edit:
Oh wow. I was messing around with settings and changed the EPG to 5 days and now it is acquiring EPG again. Takes a long time but it has 95% in about 9 minutes. It not worked on 3 days and 7 days but works on 5???? Whats with that?

[bobby]

Yes, that not works too. Tried them all. Tried all the channels on the 44 hour EPG and a couple on the 9-day epg TP.

I have epg set for 3 days.

Edit:
Oh wow. I was messing around with settings and changed the EPG to 5 days and now it is acquiring EPG again. Takes a long time but it has 95% in about 9 minutes. It not worked on 3 days and 7 days but works on 5???? Whats with that?

what does it matter about 3 day epg option, you got an epg that populates, correct?

the nfusion lost it's support long long ago and thanks to some very insightful members you are lucky enough to be able to still use the nfusion HD, i could understand if you were not getting an epg at all but the fact is it does work so enjoy what you have...

[tbird686]

Yes, that not works too. Tried them all. Tried all the channels on the 44 hour EPG and a couple on the 9-day epg TP.

I have epg set for 3 days.

Edit:
Oh wow. I was messing around with settings and changed the EPG to 5 days and now it is acquiring EPG again. Takes a long time but it has 95% in about 9 minutes. It not worked on 3 days and 7 days but works on 5???? Whats with that?


good to here maybe others can try and confirm and well be back in business....let the good time roll

[AeonFlux]

Yeah. I was not complaining about the 5-day setting working, just wondering why that made it giddy up.

Nice old work horse of an FTA box. Has its flukes but what box doesn't? PVR works. Has nice picture. EPG is great when you get it figured out. Box has built-in fan. I bought it to experiment with. So far is fun to play with.

[Lowteck]

I do not think that it matters what channel you are on when you hit the blue button in the guide to update the guide. It goes to a predetermined channel to update and if that channel no longer is a guide channel, then we are all out of luck, but mine seems to update fine as long as I leave it on. If it has been off for a couple of days then the guide has expired, but will do some updates on its on over time once I use the blue button in the guide. For my watching pleasure I have not had to use it very much.

[tbird686]

my friend is using a dish motor setup and he still can not get any more then 2 hours on bev guide dish still updates just fine

[StanW]

my friend is using a dish motor setup and he still can not get any more then 2 hours on bev guide dish still updates just fine
Tell him to try moving the dish in the opposite direction - nfhd are not ur run of the mill stbs ;)

[AeonFlux]

Lowtech, seems to matter. I put it on a NOT TP for either the 44hour or the 9-day and I only get a very partial loading of EPG.

IF I put on 200, 239 w/ the 44 hour EPG, it loads up to 100% real good.

[tbird686]

that does not seam to help any on the hd unit.....still only getting 2 hours of epg on bev

[Lowteck]

It has been common knowledge that 239 was a three day epg channel, my jynxbox when you hit the blue button gives me an option of about 8 channels to go to. You have to choose and as I remember it it was 145 and 146 as the first two. I would have to switch back to it to get the rest of the channels. But, as I remember the process for the Nfusion, you did not get a choice, it choose for you, but then again the channels it chooses may be tied to the satellite you are on. I really have not played with that much. Maybe it is time to do some more research on the subject. Maybe other people may use this thread to report what channels work best for them. Unfortunately, an individual doing so by himself would need to log and wait for it to work its way down and then try another channel the next time. Come on people lets use this thread and try the epg scan and report the results here!!!

[Lowteck]

Ok, I went to channel 145, which on my receiver did not have any guide and was not playing. I do not rescan on a regular basis, which maybe I should, but I have a reason. Anyway, it took right at 4 minutes to scan and then checked 150 and it had 2 days, the scan was close to 5 pm on Tuesday and the guide for 150 ended Thursday at 5 pm. I then checked 342 and it ended on Thursday at 4 pm. So that channel gives two days.

[tbird686]

so you left it on the channel? oh used the blue button?

i'm just not getting this. did the blue button not just bring the receiver to a channel and sit? then it automatically updated it

if so don't we just need to find the new magic channel and site for 5 minutes?

i have tried a few.....but nothing.....is there a key to leave it there for hours? or on the channel over night?

[AeonFlux]

Not really. We goto the channel and then hit (GUIDE) and then (BLUE) key to have it download the guide.

I have been going to channels on the TPs that specifically carry the 44-hour or 9-day EPG. Lowteck has been trying to see if maybe the box decides for itself where to get the EPG and so maybe doesn't matter what channel you are on when you hit the button. LowTech may be right. I do the channel thing out of old habit. I remember having to do this with the SD NFusions so I assumed that this was the way to do it on the HD. We are playing with it.

[StanW]

...... trying to see if the box decides for itself ?????

Nothing beats a real scientific approach when it comes to hi-tech .lol

[AeonFlux]

It's all you can do when the software is old and no one remembers how it runs. So, did the coders pre-program the TP based on the current Sat or does it just read the stream on the TP you're already on when you go to EPG? That more accurately states the question we are working on. Being an android, I was trying to put it into more human terms.

So 'box decides for itself' would be the pre-programmed option.

[Lowteck]

It seems that when you cut the receiver off on the back, of which I had to do, it looses its guide. I did a epg scan on 342 and it this morning Wednesday and it ended on Thursday also. So to me that channel only gives about 24 hours.

[AeonFlux]

Channel 342 not on any EPG TP so you only get a partial off of it.

Sat 110 is 44Hr EPG only
Channels 130 159 163 231 259 309 321 329 330 347 384 501

Sat 119 has both 44hr and 9-day
44hr on TP19 - Channels 200 202 303 320 394
9-day on TP18 - Channels 145 146 148 418 424 427 436 438 440 452 470 475

Sat 129 has an HD EPG on TP 20
254 386 9450 9464 9474 9501 9512 9531
and an SD 44hr EPG on TP 21
9405 9406 9599 9621 9622

There were more channels but I limited this to what I believe most folks will actually get.
All data as of today on Lyngsat.

[tbird686]

but dish works just fine aren't we talking about bev?

[Lowteck]

Yes, that not works too. Tried them all. Tried all the channels on the 44 hour EPG and a couple on the 9-day epg TP.

I have epg set for 3 days.

Edit:
Oh wow. I was messing around with settings and changed the EPG to 5 days and now it is acquiring EPG again. Takes a long time but it has 95% in about 9 minutes. It not worked on 3 days and 7 days but works on 5???? Whats with that?

I have been trying to upgrade with the 3 day also, I changed to the 5 day (thanks for the tip) and it took twice as long and I used 9431 and got mixed results. This is Thursday morning at 8 am and some channels populated through Wednesday and some ended on Saturday and Sunday. But when you turn the receiver off, even with remote you will need to do this again. So, I think that only when I need to look ahead more than a couple of hours I will do this. I do remember that the 7 day epg didn't work well and that was why I was on 3 days. But for a faster look ahead the 3 day is the fastest.

[tbird686]

what are these confirmed channels do you just let it sit on the channel?

[AeonFlux]

No. Not sit and soak. That might work overnight but what we are doing is:

Go to menu / System Settings / User Settings / EPG. Set that to 5 days. (Only need to do this once).

1. Put on either 44 Hour channel or a 9-day channel. Get picture.
2. Press (Guide) on remote.
3. Press (Blue) key on remote.

A box will appear. You must let it run it's course. It can take as long as 10 minutes. It should load the full 44 hours or 2 days at least if you are on one of those channels. I am not exactly sure what it will do on the 9-day EPG channels. I have been very busy lately and haven't had much time to mess with it. I believe that the 3-day EPG setting no longer works because the provider has revised the data in the EPG since this software was written so it takes more space in memory thus requiring the 5-day setting. I don't know why but the 7-day setting never did work worth a doodly even on the SD models.

This is really a more complex issue than it appears. There is some EPG data on every TP? I think there is some but only for the channels on that TP.

[jvvh5897]

Yep, that is how I remember EPG working too. Some info on channels within the TP you are tuned to. But full EPG availble only on the "update" transponder--so you have to tune to a channel on that TP. Some boxes used to use the downtime between packets for the channel you were watching to retune the tuner to that update TP and sit there for a while, then switch back to the channel's TP for a while--not as bad as it sounds, since there might be 10 channels on the TP with the channel you are watching, there should be 9/10th downtime for every packet for your channel.

[tbird686]

what are some of the 44 hour channels?
how do we find them?

thanks

[AeonFlux]

I listed them above...

OR

Goto Lyngsat. Find the Sats you are interested in and search for 44 hr EPG. I just search for EPG and that seems to work just fine.

[masty]

How about bev? Any TP update has EPG?

[AeonFlux]

I not have BEV sorry.

[Aucherie]

For me, the EPG for DN works as it always has i.e. regardless of what sat and channel you are on, when you press the blue button approx. 44 hours of EPG are retrieved. It is Bev that has stopped working about the time the new sat at 91 came into operation. It is my opinion that the DN/Bev EPG transponders/channels are hard programmed into the nFusion HD. This was not a problem back when the firmware was routinely being updated, but now that this is no longer the case, it was inevitable that the EPG capability would be lost. It is probably only a matter of time before DN goes the way of Bev.

[frostycold]

My Bev hasn't updated for a while on my NFHD. Dish is fine, but it stops at the Bev update (around 49% and just stays there. I let it sit for 8 hours the other day and never budged!