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francis.portugal767
07-19-2013, 12:22 AM
Folks I am noob, and as a noob I would like to learn more about the iks world.

So, for those of you that are masters in this beautiful art and, therefore,
have witnessed the wonders of an active card server, I pose this question:

How fast can a card server switch channels and still provide a cw in a timely fashion?

And as a direct result, how many live channels can a card produce?

ftanewbie
07-19-2013, 02:01 AM
a few factors are involved in that....first $ server how good it is and how much traffic load it has... also bandwidth is a factor....the type of receiver u have and the support for files...but usually channel switch 5 to 25 sec....like i said your $ server has a lot to do with it.

dishuser
07-19-2013, 02:17 AM
a few factors are involved in that....first $ server how good it is and how much traffic load it has... also bandwidth is a factor....the type of receiver u have and the support for files...but usually channel switch 5 to 25 sec....like i said your $ server has a lot to do with it.

5 to 25 seconds?lol
a second is more like it

ftanewbie
07-19-2013, 02:38 AM
5 to 25 seconds?lol
a second is more like it

i never seen my box switch from channel to channel in 1 sec.

StanW
07-19-2013, 02:44 AM
i never seen my box switch from channel to channel in 1 sec.
Time for a new box .lol My bros old trusty ipro2k takes about a second between channels.

surfinisfun
07-19-2013, 02:47 AM
5 to 25 seconds?lol
a second is more like it

Could you imagine the whining if it took 5-25 seconds for all p$ to change channels with users these days? You think the Int beggers whine.lmfao

dishuser
07-19-2013, 02:52 AM
i never seen my box switch from channel to channel in 1 sec.

and you're also always posting about freezing...coincidence?

ftanewbie
07-19-2013, 02:54 AM
i believe what the poster is asking how long does it take for channels to come in when switching.... if u are in the 110 and change to a channel in 119 it takes some times 5-25 sec 3 sec sometimes if u lucky......i think that is what hes asking.

dishuser
07-19-2013, 02:56 AM
i believe what the poster is asking how long does it take for channels to come in when switching.... if u are in the 110 and change to a channel in 119 it takes some times 5-25 sec 3 sec sometimes if u lucky......i think that is what hes asking.

and it's a second
3 tops when switching providers

crazy carl
07-19-2013, 02:57 AM
Time for a new box .lol My bros old trusty ipro2k takes about a second between channels.

they dont build them like hey used to:innocent:

ftanewbie
07-19-2013, 03:20 AM
and it's a second
3 tops when switching providers

your one of lucky ones...some channels for me some times take that long 20 sec to come in.

surfinisfun
07-19-2013, 03:31 AM
your one of lucky ones...some channels for me some times take that long 20 sec to come in.

I'd be shopping if i had a hamster that took to long on the wheel.

As many say, the wife and kids are getting upset.lol

Or, its your wheel.

ftanewbie
07-19-2013, 03:48 AM
I'd be shopping if i had a hamster that took to long on the wheel.

As many say, the wife and kids are getting upset.lol

Or, its your wheel.

channels taking a long time to come in is a server issue.....not being stable or to loaded.....i dont see why u guys look surprise tons of peps report it all the time here.

dishuser
07-19-2013, 04:00 AM
channels taking a long time to come in is a server issue.....not being stable or to loaded.....i dont see why u guys look surprise tons of peps report it all the time here.

how do you know it's a server issue?

surfinisfun
07-19-2013, 04:00 AM
channels taking a long time to come in is a server issue.....not being stable or to loaded.....i dont see why u guys look surprise tons of peps report it all the time here.

At times, yes.

But its not the norm, if its all the time on your end its doubtful just a server issue.

Believe me, we would all here about it if that were the case,

fatsat
07-19-2013, 05:12 AM
channels taking a long time to come in is a server issue.....not being stable or to loaded.....i dont see why u guys look surprise tons of peps report it all the time here.

Agree, it is mostly a server issue. The time to swich channels consist of three parts, receiver time, server time, and network delay time in both directions. You know it is a server issue, when your receiver changes channels normally fast, like 1-2 seconds. But when it takes longer or much longer, then it is a server issue. If your box always (under all cirumstances) takes a long time to switch, then it could be a combination of both sides and network lag, but that is usually not the case. When the receiver asks for a new CW, it is at the mercy of the Server and connection to respond. The time for the receiver to process the new CW once received is infinitismally negligible, even for an old generation reciever. In other words, if your network connection is ok, the party most responsible for long switch time will be the server. The receiver is not the culprit.

dishuser
07-19-2013, 11:10 AM
and what if on the receiver end it isn't requesting fast enough?;)

fatsat
07-19-2013, 02:49 PM
and what if on the receiver end it isn't requesting fast enough?;)

very unlikely, even for an old receiver. Sometimes, the network connection (at the receiver end) is a problem. You can find that by using different netwroks, such as wired vs, wireless, or re-setting, factory-formating etc. You can determine if it is a box or network problem, if you follow post #16.

dishuser
07-19-2013, 02:53 PM
very unlikely, even for an old receiver. Sometimes, the network connection (at the receiver end) is a problem. You can find that by using different netwroks, such as wired vs, wireless, or re-setting, factory-formating etc. You can determine if it is a box or network problem, if you follow post #16.

so you agreed with me but said very unlikely?lol

fatsat
07-19-2013, 03:54 PM
so you agreed with me but said very unlikely?lol

No, not really. When I said unlikely, I just wanted not to be harsh or absolute. There is nothing absolute here, but the only way a receiver is THE problem, if it is defective, in which case it is more likely not to connect in the first place. A functioning receiver, no matter how old, will not be the root cause.

dishuser
07-19-2013, 04:19 PM
I never said the receiver...I said receiver end

dishuser
07-19-2013, 04:22 PM
but since receiver is what you're fixed on it is well known that some have bins with bad timing issues which cause freezing...read in nanosat section

ftanewbie
07-19-2013, 07:03 PM
but since receiver is what you're fixed on it is well known that some have bins with bad timing issues which cause freezing...read in nanosat section

i agree nano is like one if not the worst with real crappy BINS.

satcom4
07-19-2013, 10:15 PM
but since receiver is what you're fixed on it is well known that some have bins with bad timing issues which cause freezing...read in nanosat section

to add to dishuser post some are so bad that it send off flags on server as if you re-sharing or leaching because it requesting cw's so much the the request is way out the normal..

crazy carl
07-20-2013, 12:00 PM
This is also prevalent to oem receivers and why some servers so jot support them

ftastudent2
07-27-2013, 11:53 PM
i believe what the poster is asking how long does it take for channels to come in when switching.... if u are in the 110 and change to a channel in 119 it takes some times 5-25 sec 3 sec sometimes if u lucky......i think that is what hes asking.
Motorize your dish and all your ideas go out the window as it may take up to a minute to change sats. Try 61.5w going to 148w.

JCO
07-28-2013, 12:07 AM
to add to dishuser post some are so bad that it send off flags on server as if you re-sharing or leaching because it requesting cw's so much the the request is way out the normal..

Must be those reflashed pansat 1500's LOL