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TheCat1
07-22-2013, 02:25 PM
I have a genuine Jynxbox Ultra HD V3 with 8PSK module and wifi and I'm experiencing the same problem when trying to lock onto 110, 119 and 129. I have an SV8000HD which has been running for years on these sats and I just replaced a iLink 9000+ SD unit with the Jynxbox Ultra HD V3, the iLink was receiving all channels on 110, 119 and 129 SD channels but when I replaced the iLink with the Jynxbox and followed the proper set-up procedure and loaded the 239 bin my Jynxbox will only lock onto the sat on port 1 which was 110 and download all it's TPs and channels which open and view properly.

When I select 119 in the sat menu on port 2 and tried to download 119 TPs and channels it shows 110 in the top bar in the menu page showing that I'm downloading 110 instead of 119. The same thing occurs when I select 129 in the sat pull down menu on select port 3 it shows 110 in the top bar across the top of the menu page and downloads 110 TPs and channel which gives me multiple duplicate channels all from 110 and no TPs or channels were downloaded from 119 port 2 or 129 on port 3.

I tried switching the sat port order on the diseqc switch and the same thing occurred again but this time I had 119 on port 1 the subsequent rescan produced only 119 TPs and channels on all three sats on all three ports now I had multiple duplicate 119 channels and nothing downloaded from 110 or 129.

It seems that the Jynxbox will only lock onto and download a single sat the sat on port 1 and not see the other sats or ports.

I have been reading up on this for a week now and have tried a number of recommend things but nothing has solved this problem. I tried my set-up with only the Jynxbox connected, changed the port order, I did multiple factory resets and reloaded different bins but nothing solves this problem.

I don't have an inserter in my set-up as none of the other FTAs I'm using require one in their set-up ans my signal strength is high 90% so I know its not a signal issue. I've checked my switches and they work fine one my other receivers and my three sat set-up, I've been running two SVs and an iLink on my set-up for a couple years without any issues so know my cable, diseqc switches and LNBs are working fine and when I swap the Jynxbox for the iLink I lock onto and download 110, 119 and 129 TPs and channels.

I thought replacing the iLink with the Jynxbox would be a simple procedure but alas I'm stumped. I'm now wondering if the issue is power related and the Jynxbox doesn't have the power needed to operate the diseqc switches and LNBs even with the SV8000HD FTA on and wonder if a power inserter would resolve this problem but I wonder if it would affect the SV8000HD. I, we would appreciate your or anyone's help here.

Thank you

Fibroso
07-22-2013, 02:57 PM
You wrote a lot but said nothing, apparently you have settings or module issues. Now tell us what module , dish,lnb you have and of course, your location. Sometimes one box will shut the other, need more info.

It's Jafo
07-22-2013, 04:52 PM
I suspected a faulty switch or power issue right away.
I did some checking for you and found the SV 8k has a 500mA output to the switch.The Ilink has 600mA to the switch and your Jynxbox has 450mA's to the switch.
Try a power inserter first would be my recommendation.

Good luck.
:)

Nostradamus
07-22-2013, 05:36 PM
another person that does not like the fact there is clones out there and they out number the legit boxes 10 to 1

Terryl
07-22-2013, 06:29 PM
First off.
What type and/or brand(s) of LNB's and switch are you using?

Are the other receivers still attached to this system? If they are, then on what ports of the switch. (type of switch?)


Some brands of switches will power the 3 LNB's at the same time, if the switch does not need or use a DC power inserter then the first receiver in the system has to carry the whole load.

3 LNB's plus the switch can add up to a lot of DC current, 3 Dish type DP LNB's can add up to around 600 mA, add the current needed to run the switch and you into an overload on the first receiver attached to the #1 receiver port on the switch.

And no you can't add a second or third receiver to add current, it doesn't work that way.

If you have the Dish DP type LNB's then an externally DC powered switch would be needed, and it would have to be a DP or DPP44 switch if you want to run all receivers off those DP type LNB's.

If the LNB's are not from Dish then an EMP, Chieta or Spaun DC powered switch can be used, but what type depends on the LNB type, old legacy LNB's for 3 satellites would need a 6x4 switch, standard (Non DP type) LNB's could use a 4x4 DC powered switch.

If not useing a switch with its own DC power then put the Ilink on the #1 switch port as it has the most DC current to run the system.


With non DP type LNB's (after market standard) then any type of Diseqc switch could be used, but if more then 1 receiver is used, then it would have to be a 2x4 or a 4x4 switch, Diseqc switch settings can be Diseqc #1 = 110, Diseqc #2 = 119, Diseqc #3 = 129 in this case. (this holds true for all attached receivers if using a multi switch)

The same would be true with single satellite dual LNB's from Dish, (not the old style legacy) however some of the newer DP LNB's (or DPP) only play nice with DP switches (or switches approved for Dishnutworks) like the DP44, DP34 or DP21.

If using a DP twin for 110/119 and a DP single for 129 you would need the DPP44 switch, then the Diseqc switch settings must be Diseqc #1 = 119, Diseqc #2 = 110, Diseqc #3 = 129, and this is for ALL receivers attached to the DPP44 switch.

Anubis
07-22-2013, 07:00 PM
Sounds like a switch issue. Have you tried a different switch? I would try that if all your settings are correct. The box may not like the switch and it's the easiest thing to check instead of going on a mission.

It's Jafo
07-22-2013, 07:57 PM
I agree,
It's either a switch or power problem.
I'm sure you'll get it worked out.
:)

TheCat1
07-27-2013, 10:10 PM
HI all I followed your advice and changed the diseqc switch and now I can see 110, 119 and 129 and lock onto all 3 and download the TPs. I didn't believe it could be the diseqc switch because the iLink 9000+ receiver I swapped out for the Jynxbox was working perfectly and receiving the same sats so why would I suspect the diseqc switch. Apparently the Jynxbox Ultra HD doesn't work with the brand of switch I was using but does work well with Chieta switches. All is well know.
Thanks to all.

Anubis
07-28-2013, 01:03 AM
HI all I followed your advice and changed the diseqc switch and now I can see 110, 119 and 129 and lock onto all 3 and download the TPs. I didn't believe it could be the diseqc switch because the iLink 9000+ receiver I swapped out for the Jynxbox was working perfectly and receiving the same sats so why would I suspect the diseqc switch. Apparently the Jynxbox Ultra HD doesn't work with the brand of switch I was using but does work well with Chieta switches. All is well know.
Thanks to all.

Great to hear it and thanks for reporting back.

AeonFlux
07-28-2013, 12:12 PM
Single point grounding is another poorly understood problem. Provider switches all have big lug for fat ground wire. Provider installers all very insistent on properly grounding the switch to the cold water pipe or other ground. The switch is used as the master grounding block. This is harder to to with non-provider switches. I use a ring lug crimped to a #14 wire. Lug fits under one mounting screw for switch. Wire runs to hard ground (cold water pipe).