Questions about Pinwheel HD

[mars25]

These are some common sense questions I have regarding Pinwheel HD.

i) There are three versions Mini for private, Pro for public and IPTV+VOD for public and private plus IP channel streaming. However LeeSatt is selling only mini and have also mentioned clearly that LeeSatt will not be selling Pro version, they have not said the same for IPTV+VOD though they do not have it. LeeSatt is a Canadian satellite shop.

Ever wondered why public server's which used to come in with almost every fta boxes 2 years back are not there any more, in fact at one time only nfusion did not have public server. Charlie has come to Canada and closed some satellite shops, they cannot go after end users in Canada like they do in U.S. but can go after satellite shops. It should make clear why LeeSatt will not sell Pro. The only likely source for Pro in Canada would only be kijiji. Good luck with warranty for kijiji purchases, personally I would either walk in to a shop or get it online from a shop which has a published physical address.

Even if Pinwheel HD has public server support in place now, doubt if it will last after they have made some initial sales.

However has anyone who has tested Pro version, viewed any TV on Pinwheel HD public server?

ii) IPTV+VOD version is not designed to work in U.S. but believed to work from Canada and LeeSatt have not indicated that they will not sell it, however they are not selling it now and I would not be surprised if they update their website in the near future saying they will not sell it as well, since it supports public server.

One can understand how IPTV+VOD will not work from U.S. and works from Canada, can block U.S. originating IP's for legal reasons. Cannot watch ABC news Videos or shows from Canada and free proxies do not support streaming videos.

However if IPTV is supported , is it a free sub sharing provided by Pinwheel HD, from a IPTV provider, if so it may not last after initial sales, same goes from VOD as well.

What IPTV+VOD service's are currently supported by Pinwheel HD?

[brofro80]

due to high number of legal problem, the public versions (PRO, and IPTV) are NOT available for USA market. The public system will NOT work inside USA! So if you want to test PINWHEEL HD inside USA, it is encouraged you to only purchase MINI version!

[mars25]

due to high number of legal problem, the public versions (PRO, and IPTV) are NOT available for USA market. The public system will NOT work inside USA! So if you want to test PINWHEEL HD inside USA, it is encouraged you to only purchase MINI version!

What about Canada? any dealer in Canada selling either PRO or IPTV+VOD?

[brofro80]

What about Canada? any dealer in Canada selling either PRO or IPTV+VOD?
try kijiji

[mars25]

What about Canada? any dealer in Canada selling either PRO or IPTV+VOD?


try kijiji

no kijiji, for reasons mentioned in my post and also no info on either public server or iptv

[riverman]

I purchased a Pro on Ebay.ca or possibly it's a Mini with a pro file in it. There's no name on actual receiver. The box it came in has Pro written in felt pen. The file in it is 2.0 pro. I plugged it in and was surprised that before I entered my PS$ info I got a picture on South. I did enter my PS$ for North.

[caretaker69]

so no public on north with pro?

[riverman]

so no public on north with pro?
no public on North

[mars25]

no public on North

Thanks for sharing the info.

It corroborates what I posted earlier with regard to risks involved with regards to kijiji or e-bay purchases. It may not be a Pro that is imported, seller could have purchased a Mini from LeeSatt and installed a Pro file, it will help many if you can post answers to the following:

Did it have LS400 HD tuner installed?

How much did you pay?

[riverman]

it came with the tuner installed
$225.00 US$ + shipping

[benfica]

Its 3 versions...hd has all 3 features on it, iptv ( great feature once fully implemented ), public p$ plus any private p$ can be added, i find once all is clear as dish pro, epg and iptv it will be the best box around i think ! Video is great ...

[mars25]

it came with the tuner installed
$225.00 US$ + shipping

Glad to know you have not been scammed a lot, seller most probably:

a) got Mini for $199.99 CAN from LeeSatt,
b) installed Pro file - only to find no public North
c) kept the USB Wireless N wifi dongle that LeeSatt had included

Sold it on e-bay for some profit, could not have sold it for the price he was able to sell you, if he had represented the same as Mini.

Wouldn't be a surprise, if he is selling a USB Wireless N wifi dongle

[benfica]

Even though the hardware is identical
U cant interchange the files

Mini file for mini version
Pro file for pro version
Or iptv file for iptv version

[fta4me]

one dealer was kind enough for me test all three versions

i had to do this myself to clear all the confusions!

to my testing so far all three units

the hardware is 100% identical down to even a single capacitor - of course mac address are different on each unit - duh!

so there is no difference in hardware for each version

iptv version also comes with HDMI cables, RCA cables, network cable etc.

when i tried to interchange the files between units

there is no error, the files load fine but features are disabled

here's the breakdown

1 - MINI = enter your own north, south provider

2 - PRO = enter your own north, south provider + free public south provider (i am told, this unit works only in canada (private+public) but not in USA)

3 - IPTV = enter your own north, south provider + free public south provider + free public iptv channels (i am told, this unit works only in canada (private+public) but not in USA)

so if you are in canada
you should buy: mini, pro, iptv+vod

if you are in usa
you should buy : mini

VLC, shoutcast, rss, weather, nplayer, is available on ALL versions

the channel list .db file works for all units

so i backed the .db on mini and loaded on pro and iptv and worked well

the best feature i find again is vlc. my son plays PS3 on my main tv so he changes the source when my pinwheel is still on and tuned into a station, and i simply watch my program on my VLC enabled device

just my 2 cents
hope this clears it up.

[caretaker69]

so it has to be connected to internet all the time like other boxes

[BanHammer]

the best feature i find again is vlc. my son plays PS3 on my main tv so he changes the source when my pinwheel is still on and tuned into a station, and i simply watch my program on my VLC enabled device

you can stream from the receiver to a device running VLC?

[mars25]

one dealer was kind enough for me test all three versions

i had to do this myself to clear all the confusions!
<stuff deleted>
to my testing so far all three units
just my 2 cents
hope this clears it up.

Hardware is identical and features are disabled, on surface it is oxymoron. However hardware may look identical and BIOS could be different. Public Server registration could be controlled by MAC address.

I am still not able to find the manufacturer web URL for Pinwheel HD, most if not all fta boxes do have manufacturer web page at least - if not list of authorized dealers.

Are you in Canada or south of south (Mexico)?

Is the dealer planning to sell Pinwheel HD Pro and IPTV versions from a physical location - shop?

[benfica]

Yes...iks needs internet, iptv also needs internet !

[fta4me]

you can stream from the receiver to a device running VLC?


that is correct

my receiver ip was 192.168.0.100

i downloaded on my pc vlc media player

for iphone, i did
vlc for ios

go to media
go to open network stream

type the url


http://192.168.0.100:9000

and picture came in!

[mars25]

Yes...iks needs internet, iptv also needs internet !

Anyone posted internet was not needed or implied:no:

Just any form of internet - DSL or Cable or 3G/4G or Satellite wont be sufficient, need working server and server authorization for Private or Public or IPTV or VOD :yes:

[benfica]

sorry
Post 15 had brought it up...i was late with my coment :)

[mars25]

so it has to be connected to internet all the time like other boxes


Yes...iks needs internet, iptv also needs internet !


Anyone posted internet was not needed or implied:no:

Just any form of internet - DSL or Cable or 3G/4G or Satellite wont be sufficient, need working server and server authorization for Private or Public or IPTV or VOD :yes:


sorry
Post 15 had brought it up...i was late with my coment :)

No problem, you forgot to quote it, with one exception though - after downloading VOD need not be connected to internet while watching it :D

[Cybernaut]

How can the pro or IPTV/VOD units not work in the USA? It doesn't know where it is located. Or is it "It doesn't work in the USA (Wink, Wink)". USA public? Someone please explain.

[fta4me]

How can the pro or IPTV/VOD units not work in the USA? It doesn't know where it is located. Or is it "It doesn't work in the USA (Wink, Wink)". USA public? Someone please explain.

Same way when u try netflix website or abc website from canada

It detects ur request and denies access
very simple

So these guys probably disabled public access servers for usa originating ip address

I personally think its very good

implementing this request is super simple and doesnt require any major changes

[crazy carl]

Absolutely the way it goes brother

[mars25]

Same way when u try netflix website or abc website from canada

It detects ur request and denies access
very simple

So these guys probably disabled public access servers for usa originating ip address

I personally think its very good

implementing this request is super simple and doesnt require any major changes

As I have posted earlier, thought it is possible to use a Canadian proxy from U.S., it may be impossible to overcome the following problems:

IPTV+VOD

Forget free proxy servers - in sufficient bandwidth for any streaming whatsoever, paid proxy's provide bandwidth for streaming video, but pretty expensive.

Assumption: It is feasible to modify fta box to communicate through proxy and proxy address is not blocked

Pro

Looks promising to just get CW from Public Servers though proxy bandwidth may not be an issue, but freezing may likely to be due to slow down through proxy and feasibility of modifying your fta box to communicate with public server through proxy - not sure.

However especially if it is free proxy the proxy I.P. addresses are well known and can be blocked by the public server.

If one is in U.S. it would be wise to just not bother about above two versions. Even if one is in Canada need to take into account the track regard with regard to how long has the public server lasted after the box has been released.

[petermason786]

Hardware is identical and features are disabled, on surface it is oxymoron. However hardware may look identical and BIOS could be different. Public Server registration could be controlled by MAC address.

I am still not able to find the manufacturer web URL for Pinwheel HD, most if not all fta boxes do have manufacturer web page at least - if not list of authorized dealers.

Are you in Canada or south of south (Mexico)?

Is the dealer planning to sell Pinwheel HD Pro and IPTV versions from a physical location - shop?

leesat selling in toronto ,universal sat in calgary ,mvp electronics in vancouver,

[mars25]

leesat selling in toronto ,universal sat in calgary ,mvp electronics in vancouver,

Leesatt only Mini

Their website specifically says

"PINWHEEL HD Pro – public (note LeeSatt will not be selling this model)"

mvp electronics in vancouver, does not mention Pinwheel HD any version

universal sat in calgary website does not work

They may not have updated their websites, but may sell only Mini

[fta4me]

Leesatt only Mini

Their website specifically says

"PINWHEEL HD Pro – public (note LeeSatt will not be selling this model)"

mvp electronics in vancouver, does not mention Pinwheel HD any version

universal sat in calgary website does not work

They may not have updated their websites, but may sell only Mini

techocity in calgary has it too
in store and on website

[AeonFlux]

How good this unit scans sats? Looks like common tuner with Dreamlink. That box scans sats really great. Has no problems getting all the channels. How about this box? It scans channels good? / bad? / ok????

[mars25]

How good this unit scans sats? Looks like common tuner with Dreamlink. That box scans sats really great. Has no problems getting all the channels. How about this box? It scans channels good? / bad? / ok????

LeeSatt sells only Mini has it for $200 (199.99)

Technocity have Mini 225 and IPTV 300

[fta4me]

scanned

110/119/129/118/91/82

no problems

all correct sid
all correct tp
no missing channels

able to do single scan or multi scan (took a while to figure out how to do single ;)

also - scans beautifully without any problems.. did not find it too slow

32 tp on each sat.. normal i would say

hth

[mars25]

scanned

110/119/129/118/91/82

no problems

all correct sid
all correct tp
no missing channels

able to do single scan or multi scan (took a while to figure out how to do single ;)

also - scans beautifully without any problems.. did not find it too slow

32 tp on each sat.. normal i would say

hth

fta4me you posted earlier you tested all three versions, could you please post:

What south sats/channels are supported on public server - 118 internationals? 129HD?

IPTV channels available - which languages - European? Asian?

VOD: Movies? Shows?

[petermason786]

Dish pro working and epg is not bad thanks pinwheel team

[fta4me]

fta4me you posted earlier you tested all three versions, could you please post:

What south sats/channels are supported on public server - 118 internationals? 129HD?

IPTV channels available - which languages - European? Asian?

VOD: Movies? Shows?

channels:
most channels are active 118, 119, 110, 129
all major lang and channels seems to be on and working

iptv:
showed 30 channels listed, mostly south asian, some european, brazillian .. only a few worked when i tested

vod:
it said coming soon

hth

[mars25]

channels:
most channels are active 118, 119, 110, 129
all major lang and channels seems to be on and working

iptv:
showed 30 channels listed, mostly south asian, some european, brazillian .. only a few worked when i tested

vod:
it said coming soon

hth

Thanks, still a long way to go as far as IPTV and VOD. How long it will be supported after they sell boxes remains to be seen.
May be PinWheel HD will start the trend towards IPTV server sub

[benfica]

Dish pro working and epg is not bad thanks pinwheel team

Agree its working real good !

[fta4me]

i believe it's the first unit of that is hybrid fta+iptv .. so time will tell.. so far i am happy ;)

[benfica]

Me 2 ...cant wait for iptv, oh and love the fact u throw a movie on it from pc and quality is amazing...Thanx guys, love that feature !

[benfica]

Just went to try vlc and guys was a great xperience, even with my iphone i loved it and easy to do, pic ur box ip under network setup and you will love it....
Now this sunday my team plays wife can take the tv while i see it either on iphone or pc ...

[mars25]

Just went to try vlc and guys was a great xperience, even with my iphone i loved it and easy to do, pic ur box ip under network setup and you will love it....
Now this sunday my team plays wife can take the tv while i see it either on iphone or pc ...

If you already don't have two boxes get one in a hurry:D - hope you are not far from LeeSatt or any shop that has PinWhee HD your wife may want to watch satellite program as well, too bad Pinwheel HD is not dual tuner:grr:.

There isn't any HD box that is dual tuner

[dishuser]

If you already don't have two boxes get one in a hurry:D - hope you are not far from LeeSatt or any shop that has PinWhee HD your wife may want to watch satellite program as well, too bad Pinwheel HD is not dual tuner:grr:.

There isn't any HD box that is dual tuner
I guess you've never heard of a 622 or others...lol

[benfica]

If you already don't have two boxes get one in a hurry:D - hope you are not far from LeeSatt or any shop that has PinWhee HD your wife may want to watch satellite program as well, too bad Pinwheel HD is not dual tuner:grr:.

There isn't any HD box that is dual tuner
Never mention 1 box, said she would have the tv, there is the local provider ...
All i know vlc comes handy, specially those with kids!

[riverman]

Could someone post how to scan a single satellite? I have not been able to figure it out

[mars25]

Never mention 1 box, said she would have the tv, there is the local provider ...
All i know vlc comes handy, specially those with kids!

You bet, my son does not want PS3 connected to the tv in his room, has PS3 connected to the bigger screen TV in the family room.

[fta4me]

Could someone post how to scan a single satellite? I have not been able to figure it out

When u are on search menu

Mode = auto
Tuner = 1


Changing tuner to 1 will make another thing visible below called satellite

Satellite = select

And done

[cobra]

still does not give you the sequence channel numbers comes on sat 129????

[dale_para_bajo]

Guys a few weeks has pass.

Can some of you comment about the following?

1) I like Linux Boxes if in fact the Linux area is Open for USER development? Clearly the team has said that they has try to move some what away of the concept to simplify the setup for NONE Linux users. And this is good. But nobody has comment if the Linux system can Still be play with.

It is simple. Open Linux Boxes allow to Users to come with their Own Home Brew Addons and improvements. Are the team providing the tools needed to work with the Linux OS and Internal Data of the Box?


2) I have not found an Official Web Site for this Team Support? Any one knows?

3)I have not seen a lot of info in the Box Specs. We know the Box do Turbo 8psk, But can It do regular DVB-S2 HD too? What a about OTA ATSC?

Thanks in Advance.

[fta4me]

Guys a few weeks has pass.

Can some of you comment about the following?

1) I like Linux Boxes if in fact the Linux area is Open for USER development? Clearly the team has said that they has try to move some what away of the concept to simplify the setup for NONE Linux users. And this is good. But nobody has comment if the Linux system can Still be play with.

It is simple. Open Linux Boxes allow to Users to come with their Own Home Brew Addons and improvements. Are the team providing the tools needed to work with the Linux OS and Internal Data of the Box?


2) I have not found an Official Web Site for this Team Support? Any one knows?

3)I have not seen a lot of info in the Box Specs. We know the Box do Turbo 8psk, But can It do regular DVB-S2 HD too? What a about OTA ATSC?

Thanks in Advance.

Only thing I can say from my experience is that it does dvb s and s2 (mpeg4)

The 8psk turbo fec tuner board is removable and th3 3rd party tuner does regular fta plus dvb s2

Cant comment on anything because I think the box is too new for anything

Original what is pinwheel hd did mention that they have a sdk available for custom apps etc

The foundation seems solid so far.

[dale_para_bajo]

...The 8psk turbo fec tuner board is removable and th3 3rd party tuner does regular fta plus dvb s2...

But the next question is once the 8psk turbo is install can it still do dvb-S2 without having to remove it.

What is the model number of the 3rd party board?

Does it comes from another existing STB?

Thanks

[sg2100]

I am searching for a "How too" on a few of the features on this box , how to setup udp/rtp player and also Net drive , to fully use all toys on this unit . if anyone has setup these features please describe how it was setup . thanks

ps. has anyone setup port forwarding on there router to be able to access vlc/pinwheel content streaming . thanks

[fta4me]

But the next question is once the 8psk turbo is install can it still do dvb-S2 without having to remove it.

What is the model number of the 3rd party board?

Does it comes from another existing STB?

Thanks

Yes after ls400/ ls500 it still does dvb s and s2

No idea about board

No idea about existing stb

[dale_para_bajo]

There is a SDK that allows you to able to write your own scripts and images for your own personalized STB + IP player.

Yes I seen that too. But apart of been in leesat site as part of the description i have not fond any info in the NET. This is bad, Without an official Site where to look this is just to complicated.

SO the 8psk is the LS400 but had nothing to read about the so call "3rd party DVS2 tuner". No part number or where to find info. Wake up Team!

[bkr™]

Yes I seen that too. But apart of been in leesat site as part of the description i have not fond any info in the NET. This is bad, Without an official Site where to look this is just to complicated.

SO the 8psk is the LS400 but had nothing to read about the so call "3rd party DVS2 tuner". No part number or where to find info. Wake up Team!

There are many of us confused about this also, and trying to gather as much info as possible. However the answers are slow in response.

[crazy carl]

Like the idea of the port forwarding on this unit an interesting twist I wonder if I can use my chromecast with vlc app to get streams to my other tvs

[fta4me]

Yes

Once the stream is inside pc using vlc and if you have powerful pc then u can do all the things like

Stream saving
Restreaming

Etc etc

[lionking]

I read somewhere that you have to learn Linux to setup and operate the Pinwheel HD once all the modules have been installed. Is this true?

[holly2012]

No its not true its the same as any receiver only its Linux based

[crazy carl]

Hello everyone, wondering if anybody got a chance to test the new file and see if it added anything besides txt msging

[jeldf]

Hello everyone, wondering if anybody got a chance to test the new file and see if it added anything besides txt msging

txt messaging to whom.....and what messages do you expect to get back?

[holly2012]

The text messaging is pretty much for if you own your own server you can text your clients and notify them that there code is due for renewal or they have not receiver payment yet other then that I don't think you can text back and forth to another person.

[BanHammer]

I am searching for a "How too" on a few of the features on this box , how to setup udp/rtp player and also Net drive , to fully use all toys on this unit . if anyone has setup these features please describe how it was setup . thanks

ps. has anyone setup port forwarding on there router to be able to access vlc/pinwheel content streaming . thanks

yes, I've gotten the VLC stream to work. it runs quite well too.

my receivers IP is 192.168.0.3. here's how to access it in VLC. any device with VLC can be used, Linux, OSX, Windows, Android, iOS, etc

http://www.satfix.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=19518&d=1378323574
(http://boxip:9000)

[daryld]

It would be nice if coders would work on the DPP44 issues for this stb as for me it is unusable until they do. This new file is a nice feature, I agree, but first things first (I hope).....

[fta4me]

It would be nice if coders would work on the DPP44 issues for this stb as for me it is unusable until they do. This new file is a nice feature, I agree, but first things first (I hope).....

Do u have power inserter connected?

[daryld]

Do u have power inserter connected?

Yes, of course. I thought you had the same problem FTA4me......reading through the posts..did you figure it out? dpp44 with dplus lnb and cannot scan 119 reliably...have tried everything....other stb's scan with no problem on the same line, replace with the mini and no scan...actually scans 110 but identifies it as 119

[Nostradamus]

well at the same time what is there to fix? It is an FTA box and it works with FTA LNBs, maybe they put the onus on the end user to use FTA gear

[zippy905]

I picked up this box a couple weeks ago. The wifi works great and has potential to be the best box out there if it advances with xbmc or a comparable media center.... on all versions not just pro.... but time will tell how good it will be I am very iffy about the support on pvr and guide fixs

[fta4me]

I picked up this box a couple weeks ago. The wifi works great and has potential to be the best box out there if it advances with xbmc or a comparable media center.... on all versions not just pro.... but time will tell how good it will be I am very iffy about the support on pvr and guide fixs

agreed

so far so good

4 week out

4 files released

from day of 1 epg compared to now is awsome for south

so far they have fixed alot of issues including epg & pvr

i asked the dealer if xbmc is not possible and he is not sure yet but oh well.

[fta4me]

looks like the applications section got fixed

now see

rss/network player/ and shoutcast back in

also seems like iptv channels have been back up

few additions

new channel i see listed

Portuguese - Benfica TV

[benfica]

Benficatv...wow best thing ever!!
Thanx PWheel team...
Defenitly amazing job !!
Now can watch my games on it, no p$ can compare to it !!

[porra]

anyone know how to program the remote to tv??

[aldair]

How do you set up the iptv channels ? Can you please explain because it tells me there is no streams available

[henric]

anyone know how to program the remote to tv??

You need just to read...porra... Welcome to Satfix...


http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php?138116-program-remote-help

[porra]

Thank-You Henric

[fta4me]

How do you set up the iptv channels ? Can you please explain because it tells me there is no streams available

using wifi or lan ?

[sg2100]

looks like the applications section got fixed

now see

rss/network player/ and shoutcast back in

also seems like iptv channels have been back up

few additions

new channel i see listed

Portuguese - Benfica TV

I am running 2.4 file on the pro version and applications / shoutcast do not appear for me :frown:

[fta4me]

can you perform a full reboot

router
modem
stb

[sg2100]

can you perform a full reboot

router
modem
stb


router unplugged for 10 min ...my router has modem built in .

stb has been off and unplugged for 1 hour and application page is empty nothing available . but thanks for the suggestions

[holly2012]

Did you try a Deep reboot of the receiver

[sg2100]

Did you try a Deep reboot of the receiver

Yes i have , I am going to do a factory default go back to 2.3 and see if anything changes .

[blacklistedcard]

Shoutcast channels show up and work fine for me. I'm really enjoying this box....

[sg2100]

Shoutcast channels show up and work fine for me. I'm really enjoying this box....

What version of box do you have ?. my shoutcast is still unavailable . I believe its a server side issue and hopefully be resolved soon .

[Kingdom]

Does the close caption working on this receiver? If its working is it good or letters are missing like the other fta receivers?

[blacklistedcard]

What version of box do you have ?. my shoutcast is still unavailable . I believe its a server side issue and hopefully be resolved soon .

I have the mini...