Nimiq 6 at 91.1 west: Quality is 0% but signal is 78%

[rohitkamahi]

Hello everyone,
I have been reading a lot on this forum as well on some other external forums.However, I could not figure it out. Therefore, I need your expert opinions and advise regarding BEV installation and setup. First of all, I live in the north of the border so definitely I am within the footprint of the coverage. Since nobody was able to provide BEV sub last year, I stopped playing around with it. Currently I am getting 78% signal but 0% quality. Since I recently got a new Rocket sub for BEV, I wanna give it a try again.

My settings and receiver info:
Dish: Originial BEV dish
LNB: Original LNB provided by BEV
Receiver: Limesat Ultra
Nimiq 6 at 91.1 West
Transponder 12224
LNB Frequency: 11250
LNB Type: OCS-DP
22 KHz: Auto
Diseqc Number: LNB3. It was on LNB2 but changed it to LNB3.
Legacy SW: Off

I went through pretty much all the transponders and tried different LNB frequencies but not getting any quality at all. The BEV was setup by the professional guys and I know for sure that the BEV dish has been setup properly and it's aimed correctly since I can compare it to my neighbor's BEV positioning and angle. He's got service using the same angle as mine. Therefore, I am not sure, what I am doing wrong.Do you have any idea what am I missing or what I am doing wrong? I currently have 110, 119 and 118.8 running fine using the same switch and used 91 West last year as well with a test account for one day trial.

I am quite confident that the wire, switch,LNB and dish positioning are all fine.

Thank you in advance.

[fn59]

Is your lnb a DP lnb? If not lnb type is wrong.
If it's a DP twin or quad lnb, then diseqc is built in to the switch and would be port 1 in the setup.
The 0% quality would indicate no signal received from satellite.

[rohitkamahi]

I am gonna have to double check that information about the LNB type. I am gonna try connecting the BEV directly to my receiver and that will indicate whether or not it's an issue with the switch. Thanks for your reply.

[Terryl]

Post a photo (or some photos) of your dish/LNB it will help us a bit.

You said you have 110 and 118/119 right now and it's OK.

Do you have a second dish setup for 82 and 91?

[rohitkamahi]

I was gonna post a picture but finally I figured it out myself. First of all, I have a completely separate dish for 82 and 91. As mentioned previously, it was installed by a BEV professional guy with the original LNBs (for 82 and 91) and not to mention an original dish as well. When BEV was working perhaps not last year but the year before, I was playing around with it especially 91. However, last year I did not bother with it at all since nobody was supporting BEV.
Basically, all I had to do was connect the co-axial cable directly to the receiver from my 91 LNB to figure out why I was getting zero % quality. It turned out that the dish moved a slightly causing zero % quality. This gives you an idea how "professional" those BEV guys are. My neighbor was doing some brick works last year and my father was doing some gardening - not sure who messed up my dish alignment. Anyways, I am glad that the issue has been resolved. My switch,cable,LNB and dish are all fine. Somehow the dish got tweaked a lit bit and hence I could not get any quality.
I have a regular Limesat Ultra SD receiver so I did not bother with 82. From what I understand 82 is for HD channels.
Does anyone know if I should get at least some quality with my Limesat Ultra SD receiver? I know that I would not be able to watch any HD channels with my SD receiver. I was just curious as to if I should be able to get some quality using a Limesat SD receiver. I am planning to get a new HD receiver in the near future.

Thanks a lot for your support.

Thanks a lot for everyone's support.

[Nostradamus]

there are a few SD transponders on 82 I believe, you would get signal on those. Refer to lyngsat and then tune to a SD transponder

[rohitkamahi]

Thanks for your advice Nostradamus. I have always gotten the best advice from you. It's good to hear from you once again :)
I will probably give it a try over the weekend with the 82 LNB and experiment with it. Finally, I was able to get BEV satelitte up and running but only a few channels are working such as National Geographic and couple of other ones. Another thing that I have discovered is that if you select the wrong LNB type such as OCS-DP instead of NORMAL, you will be missing out on all the Horizontal transponders. I was looking for BBC Channel 510 but my transponder 12297 quality was zero. Then I changed the LNB type from OCS-DP to NORMAL and boom...the quality was there right away. I found that information on another external forums but I thought I would share it with you guys. It feels amazing to resolve issues like these especially when you figure it out and the logic actually makes sense.

[Terryl]

If you changed from OCS-DP to normal, and you get good "Q" on all TP's, then you have the old style legacy LNB's on that dish, and would need (or have) a legacy switch to go between the two LNB's on that dish.

A legacy 4x4 switch has 2 LNB/satellite inputs with 2 inputs per LNB, one for +13 volts and one for +18 volts. (and 4 receiver outputs)

Setting the receivers LNB type to "Standard" causes it to send ether +13 volts or +18 volts out to the switch, the switch then selects the correct input from the LNB.

To set this up right you need to select "Standard" for the LNB type, and legacy switch ON.

I think it would look something like this:
Nimiq 6 at 91.1 West
Transponder 12224
LNB Frequency: 11250
LNB Type: Standard
22 KHz: Auto
Diseqc Number: None (or OFF)
Legacy SW: ON
Legacy switch SW44, dish 1 (for 91W)

And

Nimiq 4 at 82 West
Transponder 12224
LNB Frequency: 11250
LNB Type: Standard
22 KHz: Auto
Diseqc Number: None (or OFF)
Legacy SW: ON
Legacy switch SW44, dish 2 (for 82W)

You would have to look at the switch to see if the connections are set for the above.

[rohitkamahi]

Hi Terryl,
Thanks buddy for your input and insight into this issue with the BEV installation. Under LNB type I have two options: I) OCS-DP II) Normal. I am assuming "Normal" is the same as "Standard".

I have 3 satellite dishes ( A huge 33 inch for 118/119, a small 18 inch one for 110 and another small 18 inch one for 91 and 82). 82 is currently not connected as I have a SD receiver. I have the following settings and everything seems to be up and running fine except for BEV Rocket server which is sometimes up and sometimes down.

Echostar 110w
Transponder 12224
LNB Frequency: 11250
LNB Type: Normal
22 KHz: Auto
Diseqc Number: LNB4
Legacy SW: Off
-----------------
Echostar 119w
Transponder 12253
LNB Frequency: 10750
LNB Type: Normal
22 KHz: Auto
Diseqc Number: LNB1
Legacy SW: Off
-------------------
Anik F3
Echostar 118w
Transponder 12253
LNB Frequency: 10750
LNB Type: Normal
22 KHz: Auto
Diseqc Number: LNB1
Legacy SW: Off
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Bell 91 Nimiq 6
Transponder 12224
LNB Frequency: 11250
LNB Type: Normal (When selected OCS-DP, Horizontal transponders show zero quality)
22 KHz: Auto
Diseqc Number: LNB3
Legacy SW: Off

I have 3 different network settings ( 2 DN servers and 1 BEV server) and the transition from BEV to DN or vice versa is actually not bad even though there is a slight latency.

[Terryl]

Good to hear that you got it going, and it looks like you do have the standard (or normal LNB's).