Need help on how to set up 2 Bell IRD's (91/82) and one FTA (129/119/110/91/82)

[dcapper]

I have One Bell IRD setup now going through a sw21 into my IRD. Then another IRD through a SW21 and into a diseqc. Works like a charm. Now I want to add another Bell IRD to use with my Slingbox. I have a few diseqc's, sw21's, 22khz switches (Don't like them) and a SW44 switch. What's my best way to hook up? I was thinking on using the SW44 for the BEV's and one out the the diseqc? But then that leaves me one port short for the 5 lnb's to the FTA. Can I use a SW44 to a SW21 into a diseqc?

[Terryl]

No. not if you have the old legacy LNB's on your dishes, you would need a 10x4 switch.

The old LNB's require 2 coaxes per satellite, to add a third IRD you will need to use the SW44 switch for the IRD's and then you can try the 4th output of the SW44 to the FTA receiver with the SW21 switching between the three LNB's used for 110/119/129 and the output of the SW44.

The old legacy SW44 switch will only run the 2 legacy LNB's (two outputs per LNB) for 82 and 91, (4 outputs) but this is fine as you don't want to mix the signals with 82/91 and 110/119/129 into your Bell receivers.

[dcapper]

I have some dishpro lnb's too. Can I use them somehow?

[Fastcompany]

No. not if you have the old legacy LNB's on your dishes, you would need a 10x4 switch.

The old LNB's require 2 coaxes per satellite, to add a third IRD you will need to use the SW44 switch for the IRD's and then you can try the 4th output of the SW44 to the FTA receiver with the SW21 switching between the three LNB's used for 110/119/129 and the output of the SW44.

The old legacy SW44 switch will only run the 2 legacy LNB's (two outputs per LNB) for 82 and 91, (4 outputs) but this is fine as you don't want to mix the signals with 82/91 and 110/119/129 into your Bell receivers.

Confused?? Why can't he use the SW44 that feeds up 4 receivers? Run direct from that switch to his subs, and feed his FTA from one of those ports, then through a diseqc? That would also combine 82 and 91, so a 4x1 diseqc is all you'd need to have your 5 FTA sats.

[Terryl]

If your IRD's will support them then yes, use 5 of them, one for each satellite, use a DPP44 switch for the Bell stuff, and a 8x1 switch for the FTA stuff.

They all have to be new style DP dual LNB's, they have 2 outputs, each one will run a receiver, you can then run a single coax to the DPP44 switch from the 82W LNB and a single coax to the DPP44 switch from the 91W coax, the Bell IRD should see this setup.

One question, what model is the Bell receiver? I fit's too old it wont work in this setup.


Then the second outputs on the 82 and 91 LNB's will feed a 8x1 Diseqc switch or a second DPP 44 switch running the 110, 119, 129 setup, a 22 KHz switch will switch between the two setups, an output from the first DPP44 switch will feed a 22 KHz switch and one output from the second DPP44 switch will feed the second input on the 22 KHz switch.

Diseqc switching for this setup would be.

Diseqc switch #1 = 82W, 22 KHz off.*
Diseqc switch #2 = 91W, 22 KHz off.*
*This may have to be switched around to 91 on #1, and 82 on #2 to match your IRD from bell.

Diseqc switch #1 = 110W, 22 KHz on.
Diseqc switch #2 = 119W, 22 KHz on.
Diseqc switch #3 = 129W, 22 KHz on.

And there are no guarantees that this will work as mixing provider equipment and FTA equipment and trying for more then 4 satellites with provider equipment attached, has proven to contribute to severe hail loss, sitting on the roof looking out into space for a few hours and heavy drinking.

[Terryl]

Confused?? Why can't he use the SW44 that feeds up 4 receivers? Run direct from that switch to his subs, and feed his FTA from one of those ports, then through a diseqc? That would also combine 82 and 91, so a 4x1 diseqc is all you'd need to have your 5 FTA sats.


The SW44 is a legacy switch running legacy LNB's you cant mix legacy switches with Diseqc switch, they must be all the same type of switch, the SW44 will not understand the 22 KHz Diseqc commands from a Diseqc switched FTA receiver.

It ether all legacy, all standard, or all DP type switches and LNB's or you can/will run into conflicts.

You can get a 10x4 legacy switch (5 satellites using 5 legacy LNB to 4 outputs) but his IRD's from Bell will not see it.

[dcapper]

I'm running a Viewsat 9000hd for my FTA and a Bell 6131 right now. Want to add a Bell 4100.

[Terryl]

The 6131 will work fine with the 82/91 setup, but why the 4100?? Thats an SD receiver, adding another 6131 would be the better choice.

And the VS 9000HD should work with the setup I mentioned above.

[dcapper]

I'm using the SD receiver for a Slingbox so I can get my Bell service in Florida when I'm on vacation. I was rummaging around my parts drawer and found a dish separator too. Don't know if that can help or not? I might have a Dishpro 4 port lnb somewhere too.

[Terryl]

Well the dish separator will only work on the 2 input receivers.

And your leaving the SD box hooked up in Canada and sending the info down to your vacation home via internet?

You know the Bell satellites don't directly work in Florida right?

[dcapper]

Right. The Slingbox will be in my home in Canada plugged into my 4100 IRD and my internet connection. In Florida I have a WD Live TV with the Slingplayer app and I can watch it over the net. Actually I could watch anywhere in the world as long as I have an internet connection. That's why I bought all this equipment so I could watch my sub in Florida.

[dcapper]

Finally got it all working. I hooked up the Viewsat on port 3 of a SW44. So my diseqc is port 1 - 119, port 2 - 110, port 3 - 129, port 4 - SW44 port 4. Settings in the Viewsat were easy. Just standard lnb, SW44 dish 1 for 91 and standard lnb, SW44 dish 2 for 82. I used SW44 port 3 for the 4100 and port 2 went to the 6141. Working great. Thanks for all the help.