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astaza
01-10-2014, 11:07 PM
hi,
i just want to know if there is a risk of any kind of one reveals his ip adresse? thanks
homer_™
01-11-2014, 08:12 AM
people do it every day without even realizing it... To make long story short... if your not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about.
Blewie
01-11-2014, 03:52 PM
if you are worried use a VPN
lacoster7
01-11-2014, 08:55 PM
All net traffic goes thru NSA farms servers. So it is controlled completely and in most cases logged and analyzed.
For example: all net traffic in South America goes thru servers in S. Florida.
So Brasil is gonna lay down their own cable thru Atlantic to Europe in order to avoid US control.
Only a few countries have their own gateway/servers in order to limit and avoid control by outsiders:
N. Korea, Iran, China. Do not know about Russia.
And China just recently ordered to remove all servers from their mainland, which have American chips and replace with their own or made in Europe. Cause some chips made in US have a "backdoor" to enable spying.
And big multi billion facilities are being built in eastern states to log all net traffic.
NSA have all tools and powerful comps to descramble almost anything.
But even most powerful comps, can not descramble and decipher Navajo language.
It is language used to transmit messages during second world war.
It has completely different syntax than any language we know presently, there is no tools to decipher it.
Russia had similar possibilities , they probably use languages some small groups beyond Caucas are using to encrypt, but those languages are dying fast, as less and less peps are using it, newer generations do not want to use language of their fathers
NSA have been long time involved in spying and controlling.
When phone conversation were going thru wire lines long time ago, NSA thru their powerful antennas in Colorado mountains were able to collect signal as far as Vladivostok in far East Russia.
Todays all phone conversations goes thru internet, mostly. So NSA is focused today on ethernet spying and controlling, thru microsoft, yahoo, google(bankrolled from begining thru CIA), facebook, twitter and similar sites invented for idiots.
Budget of NSA was several times higher than CIA And FBI jointly.
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Doesn't matter what tools u use, VPN or not, all traffic to your modem can be logged and tapped by your internet provider.
Unless u are using hacked modem and know how to be "invisible" on your node.
Even when your Internet provider scan your nod u are still invisible.
Of course if they are using todays methods, but it is not any guarantee, that they not find solution in the future.
On top of everything, it is well known the fact, just recently confirmed by Jesse Ventura, ex governor of Minnesota , that CIA place their members as snitches in biggest US corps on the mainland of US. Especially all major Internet providers.
And it is against the law, but who saez, that CIA obey any law ????
So FBI, suppose to be limited to US mainland, but they have their local offices in all major cities in Eastern European countries after Soviet Empire fall down.
jvvh5897
01-11-2014, 09:13 PM
Whew, not sure if I should respond to the last post or not--what a mix of facts and not sure what else.
Do US chips have backdoors--could be, never heard that one before. Folks usually say that China's chips have backdoors. And I think the server control was not to limit outsider's from controlling their networks but to allow the goverment to control the net inside their own country.
I don't think NSA has comps to descramble almost anything, but it has been posted that most sw makers for encryption provided US with backdoors to decrypt. But open source encryption is still good enough that NSA is not going to get through it till they get the quantum computers going.
Don't think NSA antenna could get telephone connections from Russia, but they did allow for tap of all the satellite comms and some microwave paths.
lacoster7
01-11-2014, 09:49 PM
Do US chips have backdoors--could be, never heard that one before. Folks usually say that China's chips have backdoors. And I think the server control was not to limit outsider's from controlling their networks but to allow the goverment to control the net inside their own country.
It was confirmed by US media, not only international media. All traffic goes thru those countries server/gateways to the outside.
I don't think NSA has comps to descramble almost anything, but it has been posted that most sw makers for encryption provided US with backdoors to decrypt. But open source encryption is still good enough that NSA is not going to get through it till they get the quantum computers going.
Oh, yeah ?????
Just go to grc site of Steve Gibson and read a little. He openly states, that such technology exists. HTTPS --> just read it before u confuse other peps about just facts.
Don't think NSA antenna could get telephone connections from Russia, but they did allow for tap of all the satellite comms and some microwave paths.
Man, you missed a lot in this field, if not most of it.
years ago it was just case in US court, that US diplomat was suing United States for tapping his personal conversation.
It was well published, and was stated on more than one occasion that those antennas were most powerful in the world and what they were able to do it.
Before u post more negative comments on the issues, just go to some underground modem hacking sites and read what peps are know and posting.
Note:
Snowden revelations were nothing new for the professionals, nor for the russians.
It was known for a long time what those "devil" corporations are doing using taxpayers money, and not only taxpayers.
For Example, CIA collected so much wealth during 2nd world war, including nazi gold rubbed from Jews, that if US stop exists in 1976, it could still operate for more than 200 years without any funding
KIDWCKED
01-11-2014, 10:46 PM
It was confirmed by US media, not only international media. All traffic goes thru those countries server/gateways to the outside.
Oh, yeah ?????
Just go to grc site of Steve Gibson and read a little. He openly states, that such technology exists. HTTPS --> just read it before u confuse other peps about just facts.
Man, you missed a lot in this field, if not most of it.
years ago it was just case in US court, that US diplomat was suing United States for tapping his personal conversation.
It was well published, and was stated on more than one occasion that those antennas were most powerful in the world and what they were able to do it.
Before u post more negative comments on the issues, just go to some underground modem hacking sites and read what peps are know and posting.
Note:
Snowden revelations were nothing new for the professionals, nor for the russians.
It was known for a long time what those "devil" corporations are doing using taxpayers money, and not only taxpayers.
For Example, CIA collected so much wealth during 2nd world war, including nazi gold rubbed from Jews, that if US stop exists in 1976, it could still operate for more than 200 years without any funding
it cud be possible that u have lost ur mind :innocent:
Benney
01-11-2014, 11:07 PM
I heard that the little green light on your Toshiba TV is really a government camera so they can see what branch of chips and dip you buy.
I fooled them and put tape over mine.
lacoster7
01-11-2014, 11:17 PM
it cud be possible that u have lost ur mind :innocent:
Not yet.
Regular bread eater Joe Blow doesn't have any slightest idea what is at stake.
And he happily/merilly post his photo on facebook.
He doesn't understand, that facial metrics, used by most BMV in all states for issuing drivers licence, are more accurate than fingerprints.
So he is ****ed for the rest of his dummy life, forever. His anonymonity are toasted. Then fingerprints, photos are matched and stored in national data centers for infinity.
He still doesn't understand, that sometimes might happen, that if he goes to airport to fly, he might be stopped for non disclosed reason, and none court is gonna issue any order to reveal why.
On side note:
England cooperate with US in all aspects of this scheme.
But they do not have such powerful tools like US.
So they issued law, that if you encrypt your msges, then you have to disclosure your encryption keys, otherwise it is automatic 5 years prison time.
lacoster7
01-11-2014, 11:24 PM
I heard that the little green light on your Toshiba TV is really a government camera so they can see what branch of chips and dip you buy.
I fooled them and put tape over mine.
he he he
With technology so fast evolving, very soon by logging vibrations on your keyboard when you fart, they gonna know, what you have on your dinner.
Benney
01-11-2014, 11:27 PM
I think the encryption laws are for criminal investigations only and must have a warrant.
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United Kingdom
The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 (RIPA), Part III, activated by ministerial order in October 2007,[16] requires persons to supply decrypted information and/or keys to government representatives. Failure to disclose carries a maximum penalty of two years in jail. The provision was first used against animal rights activists in November 2007,[17] and at least three people have been prosecuted and convicted for refusing to surrender their encryption keys,[18] one of whom was sentenced to 13 months' imprisonment.[19]
Benney
01-11-2014, 11:30 PM
he he he
With technology so fast evolving, very soon by logging vibrations on your keyboard when you fart, they gonna know, what you have on your dinner.
haha hope they get real close. I had chilly for supper.
KIDWCKED
01-11-2014, 11:46 PM
haha hope they get real close. I had chilly for supper.
lmao......;)
sodusme
01-12-2014, 12:05 AM
All net traffic goes through routers but they are not controlled by the NSA though. There are different "levels" of internet providers ranging from Level 1 to Level 3 or 4 I believe. Each provider "pays" to route traffic through another providers routers but like I said they are not "controlled" by the NSA.
There are ways to minimize what your internet provider knows about your online activities. You can use a VPN with 256 bit encryption and that basically is a tunnel from your connection to another computer (ideally offshore of the U.S.) and it tunnels all your data through a "pipe" which cannot be spied on if you are using L2PTP. If you are using PPTP then the ISP can use either a MIM (Man In the Middle) attack or other methods to spy on your data.
You can also use logless or anonymous DNS. Each and every site you visit is "logged" by your ISP via the DNS that you are using that resolves the URL you type in to an i.p. so you can surf to the site. If you are using a DNS that is not controlled by your ISP then there is no record of it for the ISP. Or if you are using an anonymous DNS that obfuscates or doesn't record any DNS records at all again there is no record of the site with your ISP.
steveOtoo
01-12-2014, 12:18 AM
All net traffic goes through routers but they are not controlled by the NSA though. There are different "levels" of internet providers ranging from Level 1 to Level 3 or 4 I believe. Each provider "pays" to route traffic through another providers routers but like I said they are not "controlled" by the NSA.
There are ways to minimize what your internet provider knows about your online activities. You can use a VPN with 256 bit encryption and that basically is a tunnel from your connection to another computer (ideally offshore of the U.S.) and it tunnels all your data through a "pipe" which cannot be spied on if you are using L2PTP. If you are using PPTP then the ISP can use either a MIM (Man In the Middle) attack or other methods to spy on your data.
You can also use logless or anonymous DNS. Each and every site you visit is "logged" by your ISP via the DNS that you are using that resolves the URL you type in to an i.p. so you can surf to the site. If you are using a DNS that is not controlled by your ISP then there is no record of it for the ISP. Or if you are using an anonymous DNS that obfuscates or doesn't record any DNS records at all again there is no record of the site with your ISP.Care to share any of these DNS sites and would these changes be carried out in your router.Thanks
sodusme
01-12-2014, 02:06 AM
Care to share any of these DNS sites and would these changes be carried out in your router.Thanks
Sure....
http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php?130433-Anonymous-DNS
It could be either your router or your TCP/IP settings in the control panel. To see which DNS you are using go to CMD (command prompt) and type in nslookup. That will query the DNS server you are currently using.
This is mine:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\XXXX>nslookup
Default Server: ns1.cimcoisp.net
Address: 69.7.192.1
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I'm using a Cimco ISP DNS. They are not anonymous but they are fast as hell. ;)
lacoster7
01-12-2014, 02:14 AM
Care to share any of these DNS sites and would these changes be carried out in your router.Thanks
First start with grc of Steve Gibson site.
He have a little utility enabling you to choose a fastest DNS Servers.
Then check those fastest DNS servers for your location.
Some might be good , some might be controlled or easing control to authorities.
Do not know of any anonymous DNS servers.
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On side note:
There is effort by hacker communities to enabling anonymous access to independent satelites.
Do not know at present how far their effort is close to be implemented.
But my judgement is tellin me it is not gonna happen very soon.
But who knows, technology is evolving so fast, satelites are smaller and smaller, a few kilo's only, and it is cheaper and cheaper to deliver them to the orbit.
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There is one company in South Africa, that guarantee full anonymonity, and no tracks, so even court order don't do anything as they do not keep any records, and keys are placed somewhere else for encryption. Fantastic technology.
They made tons of pessos after Snowden revelation, have no idea if they accept any more clients, and have no knowledge how to get to them.
Mention of it was just shows a few times on RT, didn't specified name of it for anti advertisement reason.
sodusme
01-12-2014, 03:07 AM
Do not know of any anonymous DNS servers.
Follow the link in thread I posted above. The ones posted on GRC are free public DNS but they are not anonymous and all will log activity.
The ones I'm speaking of either do not log at all, obfuscate the logs or delete the logs.
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lacoster7
01-12-2014, 04:18 PM
Why bother with those VPN, proxy and anonymous DNS ???
Why not use what boys at BlackMarket R and SilkRoad are using all the time ???
Mozilla TOR browser with Vidalia onion, it is not hacked FF browser, it is different animal.
You may load it on USB stick, so it doesn't leave any trace on your comp.
Plenty of servers all over the world, and you hop from one to other without leaving any trace, and Vidalia with Tor browser just give you an temporary IP.
Just avoid using idiots tool: Google (bankrolled by CIA from the begining)
, rest is taken care by Mozilla FF Tor browser automatically.
Regular JowBlow see about 20-25% of net with its idiots Tool Google, rest is underground. And higly encrypted. So your IP see going in and out from your modem only "bush'.
Army, diplomatic services, some reporters, all are using Tor and anybody wanting to hide their msges.
And of course u have to add some safe mail addy. BitCoins operators, vendors selling passports, ID's, Drivers Licenses, drug dealers, and all undeground markets, underground sites, just to name a few, all of them are using TOR.
And those NSA servers are not such a great 'gizmo' either.
just look, what boys from Europe did it:
This may look like a small release, but it's actually huge. See, we hacked the NSA yet again because we just love doing that. These are DNS tunnels that are sending encrypted data to and from the PRISM databases. We have the IP's of those servers. If you crash these servers with DDoS, you literally render PRISM "broken". We are also planning to release some of that data (which we have access to) if we can decrypt it. So anyway. Hit these -- you hit PRISM. And die in the Matrix, you die in real life, etc etc.
SLIGHTLY TECHNICAL INFORMATION THAT MEANS NOTHING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE:
ns3-194.akamaiedge.net 56923 IN A 23.61.199.194
lar7.akamaiedge.net 64613 IN A 222.122.64.131
la11.akamaiedge.net 90000 IN A 213.254.238.131
lac1.akamaiedge.net 90000 IN A 193.108.88.1
la6.akamaiedge.net 70352 IN A 96.7.50.192
ns6-194.akamaiedge.net 90000 IN A 95.100.168.194
ns7-194.akamaiedge.net 90000 IN A 96.7.49.194
lar2.akamaiedge.net 84886 IN A 2.16.40.192
la1.akamaiedge.net 53942 IN A 184.26.161.192
lar6.akamaiedge.net 54809 IN A 195.59.44.137
la7.akamaiedge.net 39448 IN A 96.17.144.197
ns5-194.akamaiedge.net 35282 IN A 184.85.248.194
la3.akamaiedge.net 39672 IN A 96.7.251.131
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Skype Provided Backdoor Access to the NSA Before Microsoft. Skype not safe!
Daaaa, he wake up to late to the game ha ha ha.
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Anybody wants to try those servers ???????
He he he, remember not so long ago , akamai server for SonicView......
So those NSA servers are not such a great deal, regular peps are just spiting in their soup very easily, he heh he, and getting into their pantry with all dirty shoes
Anybody care to try those servers IP's ?????
Anyways, I do not advice anybody with hacked modem to try most VPN, paid or free, doesn't matter, you might rite away get msge of this type: TOS (theft of Service), your session is logged and proper authorities are gonna be notified, etcetera, bla,bla,bla. So it means, all those VPN operators are cooperating with authorities. It is just another scheme to pull pessoss out of your pocket.......
I've checked at least 20, listed on one site, none was good.
But safe VPN exists, but not for public eyes.
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Anyway, want to have static IP addy, any guru want to advice me on that, where and how to get it cheaply and safe and of course anonymously ???
PM please, if u do not want to put in the open.
Thanx in advance
sodusme
01-12-2014, 08:20 PM
VPN's are good if you know where to look. First off never, ever go with a VPN that is on American soil. That way if you do something that the Feds or anyone else needs to notify the VPN service about and obtain your records if the VPN is offshore and in a country not so "friendly" to the U.S. then there is little chance of cooperation. Look for a VPN that accepts bitcoins and allows torrent use. If they allow both those chances are they are less likely to cooperated in handing over records. Of course first and foremost make sure the VPN is located outside the U.S. and preferably not operating on a TLD (Top Level Domain) of .COM, .NET, .US or anything other domain that can be seized easily.
As far as hacked modem goes those are getting harder and harder to do. But if you know what you are doing and can obtain the "certs" from a working modem you can still get one up and running. Its damn hard to "trace" a hacked modem. The ISP has to shut down legitimate customers in most cases to trace you. They start by tracing you to the "node" and that is where they have to start disconnecting legitimate customers to see if the illegal modem drops offline. If you continually change out the MAC though you can stay one step ahead of them.
Main reason to not use TOR is speed or should I say lack thereof. TOR is slower then a snail carrying a backpack through snow. Its horrible. There are other ways to stay anonymous like the ones I have outlined. Plus you have the threat of "scripts" running on the TOR network that can compromise your security and even obtain your local MAC from your LAN. If you are running TOR for the love of God get the "no script" addon and disable scripts globally.
homer_™
01-14-2014, 02:01 AM
I liked the comment in one of the previous posts "google the idiots tool" pardon the miss quote...
I think an even bigger wave of big brother is knocking right at our front door... The majority of us are letting him in with out even asking him to take his shoes off...
Mobile devices are tracking our lives and documenting everything...Google is at the forefront... The app store has thousands of apps that love to expose you...I don't mean to sound paranoid but check out your google account under data tools...
check out your location history and pick a date... you will see that google has tracked your every move...
Cell phones are part of our lives but the apps are much weaker than PC apps and easier to circumvent.. Make a consious effort to turn your data and location settings off as much as possible... It will save you money and keep big brother at bay... Better yet root your phone and delete google all together....
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