May 6 tue ecm

[jedi]

Get your DVDs out and learn how to use XBMC :-) - looks like we could be down for a while - this isn't a normal ECM - more like the March 13 hit but a couple of different wrinkles.

The only channels working are locals and porn.

[ftanewbie]

i believe it...sense Saturday main event knock out blow...they step up notch:innocent:

[alex70olds]

lol is not from Dick ;)

[ftanewbie]

lol is not from Dick ;)

who is it from santa claus?

[alex70olds]

who is it from santa claus?

lol ask NFPS, he should know by now.

[KIDWCKED]

Damn ecm lol...;

[ftanewbie]

lol ask NFPS, he should know by now.

i dont understand what u mean....but their site is up.:noidea:

[jedi]

lol ask NFPS, he should know by now.

It is from Dick - cards no longer work for any channels except porn and locals. Cards are also processing CWs for all international channels but there is no audio or video.
Cards are getting all channels when in IRD. Private servers are having the same problems.

I know NFPS is pretty powerful - but I don't think they are that powerful :-)

[alex70olds]

It is from Dick - cards no longer work for any channels except porn and locals. Cards are also processing CWs for all international channels but there is no audio or video.
Cards are getting all channels when in IRD. Private servers are having the same problems.

I know NFPS is pretty powerful - but I don't think they are that powerful :-)

Sorry your absolutely wrong. If their site is up, go to page 8 of scammed thread. But I don't think they are.

Sorry page 9, they are up for now.

[Nostradamus]

hmmm I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact the main server is no longer online :)

[ftanewbie]

hmmm I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact the main server is no longer online :)

maybe they found it and:2guns:

[alex70olds]

Lol believe what you want.

[kenkell1]

Lol believe what you want.

lol they just won't listen will they? Server = 404 ~ http://www.yoursmiles.org/msmile/loon/m0506.gif (http://www.yoursmiles.org/m-loon.php)

[jedi]

Sorry your absolutely wrong. If their site is up, go to page 8 of scammed thread. But I don't think they are.

Sorry page 9, they are up for now.

Are you referring to the posts by nobody in their thread "WARNING** DONATION SCAMMERS AND SCAM SITES LISTED **WARNING"?
I don't see what that has to do with today's problem.

I don't get involved with the politics and games going on over there - it looks like Noboby is shutting down some server sites. There has been a battle going on for a few days with some of the big boys but most of those problems are getting sorted out.

The fact is that small private servers and all public servers are only able to successfully process Control Words for the porn channels and for the local channels on spot beamed channels. All other channels give an error message "Invalid control words" - but if you put the cards back in the IRD all subscribed channels are working.
The only person that has that kind of power is Dickie boy :-)

[jedi]

lol they just won't listen will they? Server = 404 ~ http://www.yoursmiles.org/msmile/loon/m0506.gif (http://www.yoursmiles.org/m-loon.php)

Maybe Nobody did put some sites down - but he has no control over the small private servers. Why is it that every private server is having the same problem?
Do you know of any server at all - private or public that is not have the same problem?

[Nostradamus]

that would be true in a sense but you believe that/ The server is kaput any channels you are getting right now is not from the main server but the local guy you might have an IKS account with. problem is those guys do not have enough cards in the system to serve everybody so they are dishing out the few channels they can to make a good impression

[alex70olds]

lol they just won't listen will they? Server = 404 ~ http://www.yoursmiles.org/msmile/loon/m0506.gif (http://www.yoursmiles.org/m-loon.php)

The really stupid thing is all the services went through there lol.

[alex70olds]

Lol and one time jedi told me I don't understand servers LMFAO! Noobs lol.

[Nostradamus]

not very difficult concept, basically a lawn sprinkler dishing out electrons LOL

[filippo]

lol they just won't listen will they? Server = 404 ~ http://www.yoursmiles.org/msmile/loon/m0506.gif (http://www.yoursmiles.org/m-loon.php)

:nopity::splat::oops:

[jedi]

that would be true in a sense but you believe that/ The server is kaput any channels you are getting right now is not from the main server but the local guy you might have an IKS account with. problem is those guys do not have enough cards in the system to serve everybody so they are dishing out the few channels they can to make a good impression

There is a subscribed card in a card server right now that has the America's Everything package. In the IRD the card gets every subscribed channel.
For testing purposes right now only one person has direct access to it just using RQCS. The only channels that get valid control words are the local channels - every other channel gives an error message "Invalid control words"
There is no "known way" yet to process anything other than porn and locals.

I will bet that you can not find anyone watching anything other than their locals or porn.

[ftv]

Map call implemented on all channels other than local and porn.Forget it abut nobody story

[alex70olds]

OMG lol too frigging funny. No more from me lol. You scientists please continue.

[JCO]

OMG lol too frigging funny. No more from me lol. You scientists please continue.

Oh Please Alex give us another one of your unbased crock stories>>LOL

[jedi]

OMG lol too frigging funny. No more from me lol. You scientists please continue.

ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:41:21 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 8031 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (3 elements) | Card: Valid control words [1 polls]. [400ms]
CW0:CW1 | 8BCC368DCBD923C7:DCF63709485D147B

ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:41:51 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 8033 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (4 elements) | Card: Valid control words [1 polls]. [392ms]
CW0:CW1 | 88E6B3212B1ED41D:F9CD93594F0BA6CE

ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:43:56 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 0314 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (0 elements) | Card: Invalid control words [1 polls]. [388ms]

ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:44:27 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 0180 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (0 elements) | Card: Invalid control words [1 polls]. [341ms]

[jedi]

The really stupid thing is all the services went through there lol.

maybe the ones you know do :-)

[JCO]

ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:41:21 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 8031 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (3 elements) | Card: Valid control words [1 polls]. [400ms]
CW0:CW1 | 8BCC368DCBD923C7:DCF63709485D147B

ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:41:51 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 8033 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (4 elements) | Card: Valid control words [1 polls]. [392ms]
CW0:CW1 | 88E6B3212B1ED41D:F9CD93594F0BA6CE

ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:43:56 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 0314 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (0 elements) | Card: Invalid control words [1 polls]. [388ms]

ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:44:27 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 0180 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (0 elements) | Card: Invalid control words [1 polls]. [341ms]

So alex is using IKS and his logical slot is kenkell?? Why does that sound kinky>>>>>:D:D:thumbsup:

[alex70olds]

ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:41:21 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 8031 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (3 elements) | Card: Valid control words [1 polls]. [400ms]
CW0:CW1 | 8BCC368DCBD923C7:DCF63709485D147B

hahahaha hahaha lmfao got to give credit where it's due, that is frigging hilarious. I couldn't let that one go by! ROTLRFLMFAO!


ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:41:51 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 8033 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (4 elements) | Card: Valid control words [1 polls]. [392ms]
CW0:CW1 | 88E6B3212B1ED41D:F9CD93594F0BA6CE

ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:43:56 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 0314 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (0 elements) | Card: Invalid control words [1 polls]. [388ms]

ECM **** [Wed Jan 28 09:44:27 1970] Processing ECM request...
Username: alex70olds (1 users) | SID: 0180 | Logical slot: 'DB-kenkell-19134'
Cache: Miss (0 elements) | Card: Invalid control words [1 polls]. [341ms]

[jb26]

Map call implemented on all channels other than local and porn.Forget it abut nobody story

plausible. really not good for iks.

[alex70olds]

Lol jedi haha you really ticked them off over there with your speculation. Even had staff editing staff's posts. Job well done lol!

[spock]

So who's ticked off over there



Lol jedi haha you really ticked them off over there with your speculation. Even had staff editing staff's posts. Job well done lol!


They don't have a rumor section so it was closed

[alex70olds]

So who's ticked off over there

You get banned or misrebaled there? What did you do? Lol

[jedi]

Lol jedi haha you really ticked them off over there with your speculation. Even had staff editing staff's posts. Job well done lol!

Didn't mean to tick anyone off.
The NFPS and the gang there may be having their own drama going on over there - but it has nothing to do with today's 4:00 PM ECM. It's the real deal - and my post here was a real copy and paste of a "current" rqcs log. It is a stand alone card server and not getting any control words from any cache server.

I don't know why anyone would think that somebody could possibly shut down every private server in North America. The dude over there may be a good hacker - but he's not that good :-)

What if the card server is completely disconnected from the internet - just using an internal LAN network connecting a Dreambox client to the internal Dreambox cardserver - that way no hacker could ever get access to the server. If that card server can still only process control words for the local channels and give "Invalid control words" for all other channels - would you believe it then?

[alex70olds]

Did you hear what happened to poor Tmac007?

[alex70olds]

Lol jedi, keep guessing. Better than watching tv.

[jedi]

Did you hear what happened to poor Tmac007?
Whos's that?

[jedi]

Lol jedi, keep guessing. Better than watching tv.
I can send you the log files if you want them.

[alex70olds]

Whos's that?

Not sure, think he was staff some place. Kind of got rolled on, normal these days. :(

[alex70olds]

I can send you the log files if you want them. You log the stream? No need to send, post them. Real interested in the stealth map call.

[jedi]

Maybe we are talking about two different things here :-)

I'm not talking about a log of the stream - I'm just talking about an rqcs card server log.
It would show that the only valid control words (for English channels) returned are for local channels only - all other channels show "Invalid control words"

When reading your posts - it appears that you are saying that there is no ECM and there is nothing wrong with the cards. It appears that you think the problem has something to do with some hacker knocking out some cache servers.

Is that the essence of your posts?

[alex70olds]

It is from Dick - cards no longer work for any channels except porn and locals. Cards are also processing CWs for all international channels but there is no audio or video.
Cards are getting all channels when in IRD. Private servers are having the same problems.

I know NFPS is pretty powerful - but I don't think they are that powerful :-)

Just saying these changes don't magically happen, it has to come from the stream. I just asked to see where in the stream these changes came from.i am saying the interruption came from external circumstances, not something sent back from Wyoming. Simple really.

[alex70olds]

Guess I forgot another scenario, since vgiddy, tmac, Gman etc were busted, etc got pinched, ah could be but as I watched, they were xploited. Ah politics got to love it lol.

[jedi]

Just saying these changes don't magically happen, it has to come from the stream. I just asked to see where in the stream these changes came from.i am saying the interruption came from external circumstances, not something sent back from Wyoming. Simple really.

Sure everything comes from the stream - that's how it works.
My point is that it is an ECM and that Dick is doing it. It is not some hackers over at NFPS that are controlling the stream or shutting everything down. Just because their (NFPS) main server is 404 doesn't mean anything. There are hundreds of servers still up and receiving control words and sending them back to their clients - the problem is the seed cards can only process local and porn channels.

If you or I could decrypt the stream and point out what the problem is - I wouldn't be talking about it here - I would be one wealthy S.O.B. counting my money down in the Caymans about now :-)

[stormy2000]

Would be nice to even get a couple of locals, til this get's fixed.

[jb26]

Would be nice to even get a couple of locals, til this get's fixed.

A server carrying local spotbeam channels is rare. On top of that, even if your server carried a spotbeam you would have to be located within the footprint of that spotbeam. Best locals = OTA antenna.

[skyview]

i guess it was good story,but friends say its back up on everything even HD

[lacoster7]

Most locals are out as rest of the channels. But in a few localities locals are still on n2 stream, and fta receiver with 206 image like Satopia or Icon, is able to process them and u have picture. N3 cards are able to process n2 stream, thats why u have video. As for porno channels, it is probably related to timing, they differ from other channels because of different timing, so probably dish didn't affected those channels , thats why u have picture

[abouttosnap]

It seems to be coming back up...not sure what is up and what maybe sill down...seems to me some need to have a little more damn patients.

[jedi]

i guess it was good story,but friends say its back up on everything even HD

Yep everything back to normal early morning. I wonder if Dick pulled the ECM again like they did back in March. I haven't heard if this ECM was affecting their hopper receivers or not?

[jedi]

Every channel is back up - English and international - except there is no PPV movies yet and for some reason now the porn is down???
So they took the porn from us and gave us everything else :-)

[lacoster7]

It seems to be coming back up...not sure what is up and what maybe sill down...seems to me some need to have a little more damn patients.

Yeah, it is obvious, most servers are connected/leach from the same "master" server

[jedi]

A server carrying local spotbeam channels is rare. On top of that, even if your server carried a spotbeam you would have to be located within the footprint of that spotbeam. Best locals = OTA antenna.
What most guys do is form their own group and buy a cache service from one of the big boys and then they run their own card servicers to add channels that the big boys don't provide.
So if you were in the Detroit area - your group could buy their own Detroit locals and FSN Detroit and other channels that you want and add it to the cache. More than likely everyone in your group is going to be in the same footprint - so everyone would get the extra local channels.
I agree OTA would be a better solution - but you would be surprised how many people don't have one.

[lacoster7]

Every channel is back up - English and international - except there is no PPV movies yet and for some reason now the porn is down???
So they took the porn from us and gave us everything else :-)

maybee on your end, here porno lights up, but internationals are down

[Nostradamus]

I do not think DN pulled ECM from the stream, I think somebody decided to plug a server back in overseas again. And just for the record, it really is amazing how many of these so called servers coming back online are not offshore at all but in places like Los Angeles and Montreal

[Anubis]

I do not think DN pulled ECM from the stream, I think somebody decided to plug a server back in overseas again. And just for the record, it really is amazing how many of these so called servers coming back online are not offshore at all but in places like Los Angeles and Montreal
Don't think having server overseas is really that beneficial now based on this article I posted a week ago....http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php?160005-US-Grants-Itself-the-Right-to-Demand-Online-Data-Stored-Overseas

[lacoster7]

I do not think DN pulled ECM from the stream, I think somebody decided to plug a server back in overseas again. And just for the record, it really is amazing how many of these so called servers coming back online are not offshore at all but in places like Los Angeles and Montreal

it doesn't matter, as long as nobody knows who is behind them. those local cache servers might be placed kind of"dynamicaly" anywhere in the world, or "redirected" anywhere without actual input by the "owner"

[jedi]

I do not think DN pulled ECM from the stream, I think somebody decided to plug a server back in overseas again. And just for the record, it really is amazing how many of these so called servers coming back online are not offshore at all but in places like Los Angeles and Montreal

There is no guy in a back room pulling any magic levers LOL..............

Why is that a test card server in my basement [it is not overseas either :-) ] was only getting the Detroit locals yesterday and today it is processing every subscribed channel? It is not connected to any other cache server and I can even pull the internet cable from my router and it will still work in my house.
I did not do anything with this card - I left it in the card server - so it did not take any updates whatsoever. This card was crippled yesterday - and today it healed itself and is perfect :-)
I believe in miracles - but that is stretching it a bit much.

Of course I did this only for testing purposes only - and there was no intent to steal any channels from Dishnet. It will now go back in the subscribed receiver where it belongs and will never be used for hacking.

The only explanation I can come up with is that they pulled the ECM this morning and now all cards are working normally in servers again. There is no voodoo - no black magic and not some Super Hacker over at NFPS that controls the universe and can stop every card in the world from working whenever he wants.

I'm sure those guys would like to continue the myth that they are "all powerful" and that the only way to get your TV to work is with their blessing.
Not everyone bows at these guys' feet nor pays their pound of flesh :-)
There are alternatives - you may not like them but they are out there.

To be clear I have nothing against any public server - large or small - they all have their place. Without them most wouldn't be watching what we have today.
I'm sure most are honest and reasonable - or they would not be around for long - I just don't like the strong arm tactics and "black magic" that some proffer to possess - and some followers that perpetuate this myth.

[jedi]

Yeah, it is obvious, most servers are connected/leach from the same "master" server

I'm not sure what you mean by "leach" - I agree most smaller servers "buy" a cache push from the big boys and then augment this cache with their own channels.
Since they are paying for the service - I wouldn't consider that leaching. This is a service the big boys offer to the smaller dealers and they encourage it and like the revenue.

If you mean they are buying a few connections from the big boys and then trying to build their own cache server - that wouldn't last long. The big boys can spot that a mile away.
Leachers light up on their panel like a Christmas tree and get shut down pretty quick with no refund of their money.
They may pay for one connection and try to grab 10 or 20 channels from this one paid connection - but the reconnection interval would drop from every 15 seconds to every 1 second and sirens would sound - well not really sirens but flashing lights would go on :-)

[ftanewbie]

great post Jedi.....i still believe every main PPv sport event...will be ECM from this point on.

[Nostradamus]

well I don't know about your setup in your basement, I never seen it but I do networking and if a common server goes down then nothing goes back and forth and I am telling you that the main cache server was somewhere in the twilight zone for 18 hours. As to why I don't know, maybe one of the tech got drunk and tripped over the cord, but, data does not flow from point a to c if b is taken out of the picture. Now maybe it was a card issue and they shut the server down for that reason but the cache was dead and coming up 404

[jedi]

well I don't know about your setup in your basement, I never seen it but I do networking and if a common server goes down then nothing goes back and forth and I am telling you that the main cache server was somewhere in the twilight zone for 18 hours. As to why I don't know, maybe one of the tech got drunk and tripped over the cord, but, data does not flow from point a to c if b is taken out of the picture. Now maybe it was a card issue and they shut the server down for that reason but the cache was dead and coming up 404

You are correct - I know one of the big boys did pull the plug on their main server - if it is the same one I am thinking of they did it because of the card hit. Some of the big boys did not turn off the lights to work on the problem - they were still working to provide the porn channels and the few locals channels that they had available.
You may be referring to someone else and maybe they had their own unique problem - but most were suffering from an ECM and since it was a unique hit they dropped their swords and were collaborating rather than fighting :-)

[alex70olds]

That would be the strangest coincidence I have ever seen. I watched the attack go down. I was honestly surprised that all services went down. There was a similar attack done on 4-30 at around 1:30 PM EST.

[jedi]

great post Jedi.....i still believe every main PPv sport event...will be ECM from this point on.

I don't know about that one - I was out of town and had no way of testing what was going on. It would have been nice to buy that fight and stick it in a test server to see if it was working. Maybe all of the big boys purchased from one source and did not have any backup plans for the fight. If that one source had a problem then it would have affected everyone.
Usually there are a few different sources available - maybe someone dropped the ball this time - or maybe they thought it was not big enough of an event to deserve a backup plan :-)

[jedi]

That would be the strangest coincidence I have ever seen. I watched the attack go down. I was honestly surprised that all services went down. There was a similar attack done on 4-30 at around 1:30 PM EST.

That one on April 30 wasn't a card hit alex - I'm pretty sure the other hit that was similar to this one was back around March 13.
April 30 was a battle between some competing servers - that battle is still ongoing but gradually getting worked out. Most in that battle dropped their swords yesterday to try and find a solution to what they thought could be the end of IKS for a long time.

[lacoster7]

I'm not sure what you mean by "leach" - I agree most smaller servers "buy" a cache push from the big boys and then augment this cache with their own channels.
yeah, you are right, thats is how u u described it above.
Most smaller servers come on almost at the same time, so it might lead to conclusion that they grab their caches from "master" server.
but from your" experiment" it is obvious that it is not the case, dish simply goes back with their "trick" and cards are working again.

But one question still remains open:
Why the big boys don't supply them everything, I mean all channels, and the small boys augment their caches with their own ppv, porno and international ????

[jedi]

yeah, you are right, thats is how u u described it above.
Most smaller servers come on almost at the same time, so it might lead to conclusion that they grab their caches from "master" server.
but from your" experiment" it is obvious that it is not the case, dish simply goes back with their "trick" and cards are working again.

But one question still remains open:
Why the big boys don't supply them everything, I mean all channels, and the small boys augment their caches with their own ppv, porno and international ????

Some of the big boys do provide pretty much every channel except the locals. Some guys specialize in the international channels and some English only - they then make a deal to merge their caches. It is hard for the big boys to provide all local channels and regional sports channels - so they leave that up to the regional servers to do.
It makes more sense for the big boys to do the porn and PPV and special events - they have the large customer base that can afford to buy all porn channels and pay for every Special Event and buy PPV channels every day. There used to be a hack for the PPV channels - but I don't think most are using it now - since the cards only last a couple of days.

There is a group that offers every international channel except the channels for Japan, Germany, France, Africa and Vietnamese and if you look hard enough you can even find someone that carries these.
They have every channel for Arab, Bangla, Bengali, Brazil, Cantonese, China, Filipino, Greek, Gujarati, Hindi, Israeli, Italian, Kannada, Malayalam, Marathi, Pakistan, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Russian, Taiwanese, Tamil and Telugu.
You would be surprised how much demand there is for the international channels - it is as big as or bigger than the English market. The English market has alternatives - but the international does not have a reasonable priced alternative. They have a lot of IPTV options but they are expensive and need a capless internet that is hard to come by in some areas.

[lacoster7]

yeah, thats explain everything

You would be surprised how much demand there is for the international channels - it is as big as or bigger than the English market. The English market has alternatives - but the international does not have a reasonable priced alternative. They have a lot of IPTV options but they are expensive and need a capless internet that is hard to come by in some areas.
Internationals, hmmm, those people do not have that much money , usually they grab jobs nobody wants, and are trying to save every buck they could, that would explain why they are in it and why this market is so huge.

[alex70olds]

Well we could test the theory.

[hondoharry]

Internationals, hmmm, those people do not have that much money , usually they grab jobs nobody wants, and are trying to save every buck they could, that would explain why they are in it and why this market is so huge.

As said, the main demand is more from getting their language and home news while the cost is secondary. There are expats at all economic levels. They don't have good alternatives from satellite.

[Condor]

well I don't know about your setup in your basement, I never seen it but I do networking and if a common server goes down then nothing goes back and forth and I am telling you that the main cache server was somewhere in the twilight zone for 18 hours. As to why I don't know, maybe one of the tech got drunk and tripped over the cord, but, data does not flow from point a to c if b is taken out of the picture. Now maybe it was a card issue and they shut the server down for that reason but the cache was dead and coming up 404

Redundant servers...Lol..

yeah, thats explain everything

Internationals, hmmm, those people do not have that much money , usually they grab jobs nobody wants, and are trying to save every buck they could, that would explain why they are in it and why this market is so huge.
At least they have jobs... lol...


Well we could test the theory.

Let's test...hehehehehee

[nob0dy]

Didn't mean to tick anyone off.
The NFPS and the gang there may be having their own drama going on over there - but it has nothing to do with today's 4:00 PM ECM. It's the real deal - and my post here was a real copy and paste of a "current" rqcs log. It is a stand alone card server and not getting any control words from any cache server.

I don't know why anyone would think that somebody could possibly shut down every private server in North America. The dude over there may be a good hacker - but he's not that good :-)

What if the card server is completely disconnected from the internet - just using an internal LAN network connecting a Dreambox client to the internal Dreambox cardserver - that way no hacker could ever get access to the server. If that card server can still only process control words for the local channels and give "Invalid control words" for all other channels - would you believe it then?


i do know this person ;D ;D ;D

[jedi]

My roots go back to the Vaterland and Scotland - but that was about 4 generations ago :-) I don't know why most IKS servers don't provide channels for us blockheads and there are no Dishnet...

[jedi]

i do know this person ;D ;D ;D

I'm sure you do dude LOL - thanks for staying away from my little corner of the world :-)
I'm sure you could crack into most of the servers and do serious damage and DDOS them at will - but Dick deserves the credit for yesterday's ECM that took out most of the channels for everyone at 4:00 PM
Let's give credit where credit is due :-)

[lacoster7]

Originally Posted by hondoharry

As said, the main demand is more from getting their language and home news while the cost is secondary. There are expats at all economic levels. They don't have good alternatives from satellite.
Rich do not want come to America, mostly pure families want to improve their economic conditions.
America is not haven any more.

And of course there are good alternatives to dish, but they are expensive, at least at the initial setup.

have to install my old 1020 twinhan on one of comp and start testing , at least it is good for stream logging, who knows, maybee set /add some iso reader and sub from dish. Do not know, if it is worth time wise.

Anyway, enough was said in this thread about market, JJ jaczewski crook have here good piece of info to chew it on. he probably goes now after ethnic market

[Marcella]

I'm sure you do dude LOL - thanks for staying away from my little corner of the world :-)
I'm sure you could crack into most of the servers and do serious damage and DDOS them at will - but Dick deserves the credit for yesterday's ECM that took out most of the channels for everyone at 4:00 PM
Let's give credit where credit is due :-)


My friend Oscar says NOBODY is somebody. lol lol lol. And there was no ECM yesterday only a couple of old boy unhappy with some resellers. Enough said. Colour this thread done.

[skyview]

He was somebody even before he was Nobody :innocent:

But he does more for the hobby then alot will ever know,hes a code master
just dont mess with him or unplug your computer/server lol
All in all hes a great dude,If he did something,they deserved it,just my opinion

[lacoster7]

My friend Oscar says NOBODY is somebody. lol lol lol. And there was no ECM yesterday only a couple of old boy unhappy with some resellers. Enough said. Colour this thread done.

here we go again.
So u r trying insinuate, that most channels comes from the same server.
Hard to believe, in light what jedi said with his basement setup.

[lacoster7]

He was somebody even before he was Nobody :innocent:

But he does more for the hobby then alot will ever know,hes a code master
just dont mess with him or unplug your computer/server lol
All in all hes a great dude,If he did something,they deserved it,just my opinion
He is not as powerful as u see him.
He did some childish trick on me, but it is very easy to overcome.
No problema.

[Anubis]

Ok, I see where this one could be headed. Consider this the first and only warning.
Keep the discussion about the thread title or it gets closed folks.

[Condor]

Ok, I see where this one could be headed. Consider this the first and only warning.
Keep the discussion about the thread title or it gets closed folks.


Took the words right out of me...

[Nostradamus]

LOL really the thread title is wrong :)

[Condor]

LOL really the thread title is wrong :)

You can always change it to "false"...hehehehehehe

[lacoster7]

uhh, ahh, down again, looks like extended ECM From may 6.
See what others will say.

[alex70olds]

uhh, ahh, down again, looks like extended ECM From may 6.
See what others will say.

Just a test lmao.

[Condor]

Just a test lmao.

Behehehheeeeee.. i was just kidding...

[alex70olds]

Behehehheeeeee.. i was just kidding...

So was I lol.

[kijiji]

holy chit can't believe this thread is still going i went to work early this morning and the same ppl are still at it lol.

[nob0dy]

He is not as powerful as u see him.
He did some childish trick on me, but it is very easy to overcome.
No problema.

what trick ?

[ftanewbie]

this thread brought out every one out of the wood works :rockon:

[jedi]

LOL really the thread title is wrong :)

If any of you have a plausible explanation for my post #59 in this thread - you can change the title of this thread to whatever you like :-)

I can send you the log files from the rqcs server if you want.
So you are saying that somehow the card healed itself overnight or that Nobody waived his magic wand and all of a sudden it started to work for me LOL

If Nobody says he could do that and that he did indeed in fact do it to my card last night - I'll be the first one to jump on his band wagon with you guys.
Then that dude is the "coming of the next messiah" and I don't want to mess with anyone that powerful :-)

I have never heard "Nobody" say he brought down all servers at 4:00 PM yesterday - I only hear a lot of his followers claim he is responsible. I guess everybody has to believe in something magical if they don't understand what in the hell is going on - it helps them make sense of the world around them.

Everyone - open your eyes - there is a very easy to understand explanation - Dick did it.
Surely you don't believe that they don't have the knowledge or power to stop all IKS whenever they want do you? It is a pretty simple task for them.
Then if it was messing up their older 2700/3700/4700 receivers maybe they had to pull the plug on the ECM????
Doesn't that sound more plausible than some sort of voodoo or black magic LOL
Everyone is free to believe whatever they want - but until I hear Nobody take the credit for this - I know which way I am leaning :-)

[ftanewbie]

can Nobody really be Saints;)

[nob0dy]

If any of you have a plausible explanation for my post #59 in this thread - you can change the title of this thread to whatever you like :-)

I can send you the log files from the rqcs server if you want.
So you are saying that somehow the card healed itself overnight or that Nobody waived his magic wand and all of a sudden it started to work for me LOL

If Nobody says he could do that and that he did indeed in fact do it to my card last night - I'll be the first one to jump on his band wagon with you guys.
Then that dude is the "coming of the next messiah" and I don't want to mess with anyone that powerful :-)

I have never heard "Nobody" say he brought down all servers at 4:00 PM yesterday - I only hear a lot of his followers claim he is responsible. I guess everybody has to believe in something magical if they don't understand what in the hell is going on - it helps them make sense of the world around them.

Everyone - open your eyes - there is a very easy to understand explanation - Dick did it.
Surely you don't believe that they don't have the knowledge or power to stop all IKS whenever they want do you? It is a pretty simple task for them.
Then if it was messing up their older 2700/3700/4700 receivers maybe they had to pull the plug on the ECM????
Doesn't that sound more plausible than some sort of voodoo or black magic LOL
Everyone is free to believe whatever they want - but until I hear Nobody take the credit for this - I know which way I am leaning :-)

my name is nob0dy not nobody ;D ;D ;D

what trick do wish to see ?

[jb26]

If any of you have a plausible explanation for my post #59 in this thread - you can change the title of this thread to whatever you like :-)

I can send you the log files from the rqcs server if you want.
So you are saying that somehow the card healed itself overnight or that Nobody waived his magic wand and all of a sudden it started to work for me LOL

If Nobody says he could do that and that he did indeed in fact do it to my card last night - I'll be the first one to jump on his band wagon with you guys.
Then that dude is the "coming of the next messiah" and I don't want to mess with anyone that powerful :-)

I have never heard "Nobody" say he brought down all servers at 4:00 PM yesterday - I only hear a lot of his followers claim he is responsible. I guess everybody has to believe in something magical if they don't understand what in the hell is going on - it helps them make sense of the world around them.

Everyone - open your eyes - there is a very easy to understand explanation - Dick did it.
Surely you don't believe that they don't have the knowledge or power to stop all IKS whenever they want do you? It is a pretty simple task for them.
Then if it was messing up their older 2700/3700/4700 receivers maybe they had to pull the plug on the ECM????
Doesn't that sound more plausible than some sort of voodoo or black magic LOL
Everyone is free to believe whatever they want - but until I hear Nobody take the credit for this - I know which way I am leaning :-)

Jedi is 100% correct. Those espousing alternative opinions (e.g. master seeder down even though many servers are not fed by this!!!) are either

a) protecting their own interests by trying to hide the fragility of IKS which Dick could make dark at any time; (e.g. keep IKS subscriptions flowing)
b) think that Dick is dumb and try to mislead on forums
c) clouded by the fact that there was/is some fighting going on that caused a problem with a major server servicing many others
d) not knowledgeable about how IKS works from a server operator perspective

[dl76]

Aint it about time for the dish and bev card nerds to release a wide open fix.

[Anubis]

my name is nob0dy not nobody ;D ;D ;D

what trick do wish to see ?

A public N3 hack would be a good start. lol ;)

[Nostradamus]

what trick ?

maybe he wants to see the disappearing server trick again LOL

honestly, this thread get funnier with every new post :party:

[nob0dy]

maybe he wants to see the disappearing server trick again LOL

honestly, this thread get funnier with every new post :party:

well he got what he wished for ........... ;x

[jb26]

A public N3 hack would be a good start. lol ;)

Yeah, use powers for the good of the people (and go ahead and make $$ on the side, people will pay!)!

Heck, even a baby step that keeps IKS in business by blocking/circumventing ECM hit is a great start. ECM...the common enemy....

[Anubis]

maybe he wants to see the disappearing server trick again LOL

honestly, this thread get funnier with every new post :party:

Well to be honest it sure beats the 'I'm freezing" or "is anybody up on 497?" lmao

[Nostradamus]

anybody not up on 497 needs to see a doctor as they have bigger problems than no tv :D

[nob0dy]

anybody not up on 497 needs to see a doctor as they have bigger problems than no tv :d

roflmao !!!!!!!!!!!

[Anubis]

anybody not up on 497 needs to see a doctor as they have bigger problems than no tv :D

You mean a "smaller" problem.:thumbsup:

[kenkell1]

My friend Oscar says NOBODY is somebody. lol lol lol. And there was no ECM yesterday only a couple of old boy unhappy with some resellers. Enough said. Colour this thread done.

Thank you bro http://www.yoursmiles.org/bsmile/fun/b0220.gif (http://www.yoursmiles.org/b-fun.php)

[Dzaster]

Everyone needs to believe in something. I believe I will have another! :drunk1::drunk1:

[alex70olds]

Everyone needs to believe in something. I believe I will have another! :drunk1::drunk1:

I hear ya. One of the strangest coincidences I ever witnessed lol. Yep I got to go with Jedi ' s version of events. I have learned a lot, as the iks server thingy never really interested me. Now, I do see how it can be done, but like I said, coincidence. Humble pie, yummie.

[lacoster7]

Spammers, trollers, and other egomaniacs obfuscated vital info in this thread.
To make full drama we need Charles Ergen and JJ Jaczewski jump in and add more BS, just to show their total ignorance and complete contempt for people contributing something of value.

hey, this nobOdy/somebOdy could just log in as Charlie
Wonder, if peps gonna be equally scared, he heh he, coder of how to get out of paper bag.

Oh, in my city, there is one job opening, for dog catcher... eh might need higher IQ than what he have now.

[alex70olds]

Spammers, trollers, and other egomaniacs obfuscated vital info in this thread.
To make full drama we need Charles Ergen and JJ Jaczewski jump in and add more BS, just to show their total ignorance and complete contempt for people contributing something of value.

hey, this nobOdy/somebOdy could just log in as Charlie
Wonder, if peps gonna be equally scared, he heh he, coder of how to get out of paper bag.

Oh, in my city, there is one job opening, for dog catcher... eh might need higher IQ than what he have now.

Please don't get me wrong, he is good, good in stuff I am good in, don't underestimate him. That would not be wise. Just saying.

[lacoster7]

Break into somebody comps I regard as highly unethical, doesn't matter who he is. <br />
I never did to anybody. <br />
Break into banksters, or CIA or NSA it is another story, or break into devil big...

[alex70olds]

I don't know anything about that. It does seem a bit hypocritical in that it is ok to hack tv, but other exploits are unethical. I guess IKS is free with no fee? Anyway, no dog in this fight, not...

[jedi]

my name is nob0dy not nobody ;D ;D ;D

what trick do wish to see ?

Sorry buddy - no offense meant with regard to your handle - but you have to admit that is not an easy handle for a half inebriatedededed dude to type.
Is that big circley thing in the middle a capital letter "O" or is that the number zero - i.e 0 ?
I guess I will go with the zero - as that would make more sense with the name you have chosen :-)

I just got back from the pub (doing my Nascar picks) and was surprised that this thread was still going strong.

I have to admit that I really am bewildered - I'm sure there is a reason that your followers are insisting that there was no ECM and that it was just a pay back to some scammers.
Most of you guys sound pretty intelligent and I'm sure we could sit down over a couple of beers and have a good laugh - but this really does seem like the "Twilight Zone".
You guys are probably too young to remember Rod Serling's old science fiction anthology TV series - but I swear I must be in the middle of one of his shows :-)

To me and I am sure 95% of the readers of this thread - we don't believe in black magic or voodoo - sometimes **** happens and Dicky does some evil things and he takes away our precious TV. I don't care how much you want me to pay your witch doctor - he is not going to fix it and I am not going to pay him - end of story.
I'm hoping your group is getting paid pretty big money to perpetuate this myth because the next round is on you :-)

[nob0dy]

i have no idea who you are ...... how do we know each other ? <br />
<br />
@jedi , nob0dy isn't a group ...... it's just me &amp; my split personalities LMFAO !

[Condor]

i have no idea who you are ...... how do we know each other ?

@jedi , nob0dy isn't a group ...... it's just me & my split personalities LMFAO !


......And you sure have plenty....I only have 10-12... http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk143/faeini1/lmao.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/user/faeini1/media/lmao.gif.html).... http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz217/Bolivia_03/nsa%20funny/facebooks-new-hq-lives-on-1-hacker-way-in-menlo-park-ca.jpg (http://s829.photobucket.com/user/Bolivia_03/media/nsa%20funny/facebooks-new-hq-lives-on-1-hacker-way-in-menlo-park-ca.jpg.html)

[ftanewbie]

wow thats pretty cheap...were this guys working out of china?

[nob0dy]

@ftanewbie , i " think " he/she is talking about the paypal exploit , the cia/nsa/fbi ...ect ...ect is old news

prolly a somebody is firing up a new #OP ....... other then that i have no idea who this person is , but they're PO @ me for wut , dunno won't respond to my question ......

[lacoster7]

hey split personalities 'jojo', remember "remote" ???
yes, we met, quite a few times, mister nob 0 dy

I am not interested in you, forget about me, I am NOBODY, no one, never existed not even in your wet dreams.......

Your faint memories........ heh , what a jojo, why did u come here, what, to show how sick u r ????

[Anubis]

Time to take a breather folks.

[ftanewbie]

talking about ECM looks like south just took a dive:rolleyes:

[TheMaritimer]

one server did anyway. DN still up on some servers though :)

[abouttosnap]

After you're down for this long then you can whine lol:

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[jedi]

talking about ECM looks like south just took a dive:rolleyes:

Nope - no ECM today

[swanner]

Nope - no ECM today

You sure about that...
Not from what I've been reading..

[abouttosnap]

Old saying...don't believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see.

[jedi]

You sure about that...
Not from what I've been reading..

Guarantee ya no ECM
Not 1 channel down even. The downtime today for some is a carry over from the battle that started back on Apr 30. Some guys didn't pay their bills on time.

[MFTV]

can confirm no ECM running smooth all week on private iks

[alex70olds]

Guarantee ya no ECM
Not 1 channel down even. The downtime today for some is a carry over from the battle that started back on Apr 30. Some guys didn't pay their bills on time.
Actually started 8 January. I thank yo for challenging what I posted, did a lot of research and learning. I have just one word, if you send a PM, especially on support site, know that the PM hack is installed and staff will read it no matter who it is to. Lol of course not here, or on neutral fta sites.

[nob0dy]

hey split personalities 'jojo', remember "remote" ???
yes, we met, quite a few times, mister nob 0 dy

I am not interested in you, forget about me, I am NOBODY, no one, never existed not even in your wet dreams.......

Your faint memories........ heh , what a jojo, why did u come here, what, to show how sick u r ????


alright , not sure what the encrypted message is suppose to mean .... can u fill in the blanks please ?

u seem very upset @ what no clue ....... be more specific ...... i have no clue what you're referring 2 .....

or just leave it be ........

[jedi]

Actually started 8 January. I thank yo for challenging what I posted, did a lot of research and learning. I have just one word, if you send a PM, especially on support site, know that the PM hack is installed and staff will read it no matter who it is to. Lol of course not here, or on neutral fta sites.

I'm not sure when the blades were originally drawn - but there was a major change in battle plans on or about Apr 30 :-)

[alex70olds]

I'm not sure when the blades were originally drawn - but there was a major change in battle plans on or about Apr 30 :-)

I will see your post and raise you this one lol. I would even go back to aprox. April of 2013. That is when "Ned" took control of the nic NFPS and started making the "buisness" decisions.

[nob0dy]

I'm not sure when the blades were originally drawn - but there was a major change in battle plans on or about Apr 30 :-)

what year ?

[alex70olds]

Sorry 2013, when he took control of the nic from Carlos.

[jedi]

what year ?
April 30 2014 - new player in the game :-)

[nob0dy]

ok what about him & the date ?

[jedi]

ok what about him & the date ?
Taking control of everything and trying to get rid of the cheaters at all levels basically - there has been too much cheating going on with all of the cache sharing and the new sheriff is trying to put a stop to all of it.
There are some tough new rules to follow and some don't want to agree to them and are being shut down - that's the gist of it in a nutshell.

Maybe the people that a lot of people thought were in control - really haven't been in control - the times they are a changin :-)

[JCO]

Actually started 8 January. I thank yo for challenging what I posted, did a lot of research and learning. I have just one word, if you send a PM, especially on support site, know that the PM hack is installed and staff will read it no matter who it is to. Lol of course not here, or on neutral fta sites.
No PM hack installed here.. We dont want to know whats going on via pm. The forums are more than enough for us..LOL

[alex70olds]

Taking control of everything and trying to get rid of the cheaters at all levels basically - there has been too much cheating going on with all of the cache sharing and the new sheriff is trying to put a stop to all of it.
There are some tough new rules to follow and some don't want to agree to them and are being shut down - that's the gist of it in a nutshell.

Maybe the people that a lot of people thought were in control - really haven't been in control - the times they are a changin :-)

Yes and trying to contract others to ddos the competition. He even did it himself with IRC bots. Ask Juan about that. In fact, he did it behind the backs of Zeta staff. Why? Because contrary to me looking down at them for reading PM's, they are totally against taking other sites down, even expelling their own staff over it. You think he is a sheriff, might be, but is sloppy. Check out admin directory bigboss. I also can't believe they keep an admin account open for someone that just settled with D1sh. I know you are only going by what he said, but I told you It was a challenge to find out what was going on
I do respect your server knowlege, but I wont be wrong again.

P34c3

@13X

[alex70olds]

I guess you asked him about it. The Admin account in question is now gone. Probably way 2 l8. Now NFPS is only admin.

[jedi]

Yes and trying to contract others to ddos the competition. He even did it himself with IRC bots. Ask Juan about that. In fact, he did it behind the backs of Zeta staff. Why? Because contrary to me looking down at them for reading PM's, they are totally against taking other sites down, even expelling their own staff over it. You think he is a sheriff, might be, but is sloppy. Check out admin directory bigboss. I also can't believe they keep an admin account open for someone that just settled with D1sh. I know you are only going by what he said, but I told you It was a challenge to find out what was going on
I do respect your server knowlege, but I wont be wrong again.
P34c3
@13X

I doubt if the DDOS attacks was coming from the guy I am referring to as the sheriff - that doesn't seem like his style. He doesn't have to DDOS anyone - he just turns you off and lets you fend yourself. The guys that know him well say that is something he would never do (DDOS that is). He has been on the sidelines for a long time and has never been involved - he finally got p*ssed off and throw his hat into the ring.

I think we are probably talking about a different person. He gains nothing by DDOSing anyone - he is just changing the rules of the game and everyone has to follow or be turned off - not DDOSed.
I say more power to him - if he can clean up the cheating that has been going on - maybe you'll see some good reliable IKS service once again at a reasonable price

[jedi]

I guess you asked him about it. The Admin account in question is now gone. Probably way 2 l8. Now NFPS is only admin.


Nope - I wasn't even sure what site you were talking about - but I guess you were talking about zbeta

[alex70olds]

Lol batting .000 with coincidences. Ah well, I lied, wrong again. :)

[Anubis]

Lol batting .000 with coincidences. Ah well, I lied, wrong again. :)

Geez alex your 242 now. lol Don't make this a habit bud! lmao