DPP33 switch

[mreo]

Request help in setting up t5 to use a DPP33 switch. Thanks.

[whoknows]

As you can see there are 3 ports for 3 satellites and 3 ports for up to 3 receivers. We don't know how many l n b you are using but you can use up to 3. Run the coax from the l n b into the switch. And the other port you run coax back to receiver.

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[mreo]

I need to know how to set it up in the receiver, not hook it up. I seem to remember reading somewhere that you treat it the same as a DiSEqC switch but can't remember the details.

[torpainter]

turn diseq on and assign diseq 1 119
diseq 2 110
diseq 3 129

[Berenjeno]

mreo
this is the conf on your dreamlink T5 with DPP33,..if you put on the input Sat119...1, sat110...2 and Sat129...3 or other sat, If you only have 2 sat 119 and 110 you conf 1 and 2.
Sat119
LNB Power..............On
LNB Type...............OCS-DP
LNB Frequency........11.250
LNB 22Khz..............Off
Diseqc SW 1.0........1
Diseqc SW 1.1........Off
Legacy Sw.............Off

Sat110
LNB Power..............On
LNB Type...............OCS-DP
LNB Frequency........11.250
LNB 22Khz..............Off
Diseqc SW 1.0........2
Diseqc SW 1.1........Off
Legacy Sw.............Off

Sat129 or other
LNB Power..............On
LNB Type...............OCS-DP
LNB Frequency........11.250
LNB 22Khz..............Off
Diseqc SW 1.0........3
Diseqc SW 1.1........Off
Legacy Sw.............Off

[Terryl]

The T5 may not have the DC current to run 3 LNB's and the switch, you may need the DP power inserter.

[Berenjeno]

The T5 may not have the DC current to run 3 LNB's and the switch, you may need the DP power inserter.

Terry
Let me tell you that its works on DPP33 and DP34, because I have 3 LNB DP (sat 119,110,129) with DP33 with 1 Dreamlink T5, 1 CW800 and 1 Limesat work perfect because I use to have like that,..
Now I have 3 LNB DP (sat11,110,129) with DP34 with 2 Dreamlink T5, 1 CW800 and 1 Limesat work 100% Perfect.

If you use dish 1000.2 direct to Dreamlink T5 work perfect to. I have a few friend like that.
But if you have 4 receiver on dish 1000.2 with lnb 1000.2 then you need the DPP44.

[Terryl]

Well I hate to say it but with my lab tests the normal FTA receiver dose not have the required DC current to run any LNB and switch setup that takes over 500 mA of DC current to run over a long period of time.

I tested 20 new out of the box Dish 1000 LNB's and the average DC current draw under full load (receiving all three satellites and running 3 receivers) was 645 mA.

So even though the setups you mentioned may be working there is a good chance that the receivers LNB power circuit may be overloaded.

This could over time cause the loss of transponders, or long term damage to the receivers power supply to the LNB, it may take time to do the damage.

Some FTA recivers run real hot, and some of the HD modules also run hot, this is due to the high DC current draw from 3 DP LNB's and a switch.

Now not all LNB's draw the same amount of DC current, also the type of coax used can make or break the system, it all depends.

Your sysem may work for a long time, or it could fail, it all depends on the receiver's power supply to the LNB, can it handle the over load, and for how long?

[Terryl]

What needs to be done is to look at the DC current spec's of the LNB's in use, and the DC current spec or the switch, if the total DC current draw is under 500 mA then you will be OK, if higher then there is a possibility that it may fail or have some sort of switching problems over time

[Berenjeno]

Well I hate to say it but with my lab tests the normal FTA receiver dose not have the required DC current to run any LNB and switch setup that takes over 500 mA of DC current to run over a long period of time.

I tested 20 new out of the box Dish 1000 LNB's and the average DC current draw under full load (receiving all three satellites and running 3 receivers) was 645 mA.

So even though the setups you mentioned may be working there is a good chance that the receivers LNB power circuit may be overloaded.

This could over time cause the loss of transponders, or long term damage to the receivers power supply to the LNB, it may take time to do the damage.

Some FTA recivers run real hot, and some of the HD modules also run hot, this is due to the high DC current draw from 3 DP LNB's and a switch.

Now not all LNB's draw the same amount of DC current, also the type of coax used can make or break the system, it all depends.

Your sysem may work for a long time, or it could fail, it all depends on the receiver's power supply to the LNB, can it handle the over load, and for how long?

Terryl

I hate to say that you have some problem on your lab, equipment and you don't have any Dreamlink T5...
the Dreamlink T5 use New Module DL100 8PSK is very different to de SK200, the T5 doesn't get hot, now if you talk the crap of jynxbox yes you need the DPP44 and all box that use SK200.

tested by me and tell you again, right now I'm using in my hose 3 LNB DP (sat11,110,129) with DP34 with (2) Dreamlink T5, (1) CW800 and (1) Limesat works 100% Perfect with NO problem, that are 4 receivers and its about 1 years like that and I have all the TP and channels..... before that I was using DPP33 with out any Problem with 3 Receivers.

Right now I have 3 friend using a dish 1000.2 direct to the dreamlink T5 with out any problem and I have about 12 friend using Dish 500 with DPP33 on Dreamlink T5 with out any problem.

remember the new Module DL100 8PSK doesn't get hot and comes in the Dreamlink T5 is different to the SK200. tested by me Works 100% perfect

sorry to tell you but I think you have some problem with your test and equipment.... don't confuse the users.

[Anubis]

Terryl

I hate to say that you have some problem on your lab, equipment and you don't have any Dreamlink T5...
the Dreamlink T5 use New Module DL100 8PSK is very different to de SK200, the T5 doesn't get hot, now if you talk the crap of jynxbox yes you need the DPP44 and all box that use SK200.

tested by me and tell you again, right now I'm using in my hose 3 LNB DP (sat11,110,129) with DP34 with (2) Dreamlink T5, (1) CW800 and (1) Limesat works 100% Perfect with NO problem, that are 4 receivers and its about 1 years like that and I have all the TP and channels..... before that I was using DPP33 with out any Problem with 3 Receivers.

Right now I have 3 friend using a dish 1000.2 direct to the dreamlink T5 with out any problem and I have about 12 friend using Dish 500 with DPP33 on Dreamlink T5 with out any problem.

remember the new Module DL100 8PSK doesn't get hot and comes in the Dreamlink T5 is different to the SK200. tested by me Works 100% perfect

sorry to tell you but I think you have some problem with your test and equipment.... don't confuse the users.
Terryl is saying your set up may be working currently but you may be overloading the power supply and possibly over time the power supply may fail. I guess you missed that part in his response in both posts 8 and 9.
Terryl doesn't just throw a box on to see if it works or not. He obviously uses the true testing method with proper equipment to get his results.
I really would not be second guessing him and his methods for his information.

[Terryl]

Terryl

I hate to say that you have some problem on your lab, equipment and you don't have any Dreamlink T5...
the Dreamlink T5 use New Module DL100 8PSK is very different to de SK200, the T5 doesn't get hot, now if you talk the crap of jynxbox yes you need the DPP44 and all box that use SK200.

tested by me and tell you again, right now I'm using in my hose 3 LNB DP (sat11,110,129) with DP34 with (2) Dreamlink T5, (1) CW800 and (1) Limesat works 100% Perfect with NO problem, that are 4 receivers and its about 1 years like that and I have all the TP and channels..... before that I was using DPP33 with out any Problem with 3 Receivers.

Right now I have 3 friend using a dish 1000.2 direct to the dreamlink T5 with out any problem and I have about 12 friend using Dish 500 with DPP33 on Dreamlink T5 with out any problem.

remember the new Module DL100 8PSK doesn't get hot and comes in the Dreamlink T5 is different to the SK200. tested by me Works 100% perfect

sorry to tell you but I think you have some problem with your test and equipment.... don't confuse the users.

I have been testing and evaluating RF equipment for over 50 years, so don't tell me that something is wrong with my lab equipment.

I don't care if the add on HD modual get's hot or not, I don't care what type receiver you have that may be working at the moment, it's the DC power supply circuit that is located on the receivers power supply board that has to run the LNB(s) and if used, a non-powered switch.

This circuit is independent from the other DC voltage circuits, it has a variable DC voltage output, one that when used with some standard LNB's has to switch between +13 volts and +18 volts DC, it is on 95% of all FTA receivers LIMITED to 500 mA, that is 1/2 of an amp, you could go over that on some receivers and not see any problems, but over time on other receivers you may/will see problems in the switching between transponders or complete failure of the DC supply to the LNB.

And not all intallations are the exact same as yours, the coax can be longer, of a different type or of poor quality, the amount, age and type of LNB's can be different, and the receiver may or may not have the DC power to run all this at once.

In my tests the Dish 1000 LNB will draw MORE DC CURRENT then the standard FTA receiver can safely supply, keep using your setup, IF IT WORKS FOR YOU, but don't ever tell me that my tests are wrong, the information I post is to advise others as to the possible problems that THEY may see in THEIR installation, using the Dish 1000 triple head LNB.

[Berenjeno]

Terryl is saying your set up may be working currently but you may be overloading the power supply and possibly over time the power supply may fail. I guess you missed that part in his response in both posts 8 and 9.
Terryl doesn't just throw a box on to see if it works or not. He obviously uses the true testing method with proper equipment to get his results.
I really would not be second guessing him and his methods for his information.

no I don't miss the post 8 and 9.
He said
may be overloading the power supply and possibly over time the power supply may fail
he is guessing,.. so I don't care his guess

The T5 use an external power supply, inst internal like the other receivers.
I'm using 1 year like that with no problem on a T5, on a CW800 and Limesat 4 years on a DPP33 and DP34 with No problem!!!!!!

the Dreamlink can use any Switch or Diseqc or Multi-Switch, the same CaptiveWorks, Limesat, Linxbox 8000 Local, Neosat2000 Pro.

[Berenjeno]

I have been testing and evaluating RF equipment for over 50 years, so don't tell me that something is wrong with my lab equipment.

I don't care if the add on HD modual get's hot or not, I don't care what type receiver you have that may be working at the moment, it's the DC power supply circuit that is located on the receivers power supply board that has to run the LNB(s) and if used, a non-powered switch.

This circuit is independent from the other DC voltage circuits, it has a variable DC voltage output, one that when used with some standard LNB's has to switch between +13 volts and +18 volts DC, it is on 95% of all FTA receivers LIMITED to 500 mA, that is 1/2 of an amp, you could go over that on some receivers and not see any problems, but over time on other receivers you may/will see problems in the switching between transponders or complete failure of the DC supply to the LNB.

And not all intallations are the exact same as yours, the coax can be longer, of a different type or of poor quality, the amount, age and type of LNB's can be different, and the receiver may or may not have the DC power to run all this at once.

In my tests the Dish 1000 LNB will draw MORE DC CURRENT then the standard FTA receiver can safely supply, keep using your setup, IF IT WORKS FOR YOU, but don't ever tell me that my tests are wrong, the information I post is to advise others as to the possible problems that THEY may see in THEIR installation, using the Dish 1000 triple head LNB.

I can tell you that you are wrong (accept) because you are guessing and I'm using the DPP33 and DP34 with does receiver for more than 1 year with out any problem and my friend to. brother doesn't guess... yes perhaps in about 5 or 8 years the power supply is damage for any reason of problem with the light company but it will be other new receiver.

again I have a lot of friend using DPP33 and DP34 with out any Problem 100% perfect for more than 2 years.

again don't confuse the users....

[Anubis]

no I don't miss the post 8 and 9.
He said
he is guessing,.. so I don't care his guess

The T5 use an external power supply, inst internal like the other receivers.
I'm using 1 year like that with no problem on a T5, on a CW800 and Limesat 4 years on a DPP33 and DP34 with No problem!!!!!!

the Dreamlink can use any Switch or Diseqc or Multi-Switch, the same CaptiveWorks, Limesat, Linxbox 8000 Local, Neosat2000 Pro.

It doesn't matter if it's a internal or external power supply. If you are overloading it it may fail down the road depending on it's DC specs and your LNB specs. Have you ever ran a car without motor oil? At some point the motor will over heat and fail.

[Berenjeno]

It doesn't matter if it's a internal or external power supply. If you are overloading it it may fail down the road depending on it's DC specs and your LNB specs. Have you ever ran a car without motor oil? At some point the motor will over heat and fail.

isn't the same because you know that the car doesn't have oil.

now again you and Terryl have to accept that are wrong, if you 2 have some problem doesn't mean that we have the same problem verify your system or coax line call a technician that can correct your problem because again I and a lot more that 100 people is using DPP33 and DP34 with out any problem.

you 2 are guessing, if the problem come in 2 or 4 month you are correct, but more that 1 or 3 years, your 2 are wrong.

you 2 are saying the same as the people that said the end of the word on 2000 or the end or word on 2010, the was guessing and you are saying the same.

[Berenjeno]

ok, this is a Forum that we can make a opinion and any testify any test that we make,. the DPP33 and DP34 works on Dreamlink,.. that is may opinion and my Fact because I know that work I'm using it.

that is your opinion is yours guessing.

I'm a intelligent person and I will not continue your game, you can continue confusing the users.

I'm a Super Mod on other site but I can see that you cant receive any suggestion.

good luck with your guess !!!!

[Anubis]

ok, this is a Forum that we can make a opinion and any testify any test that we make,. the DPP33 and DP34 works on Dreamlink,.. that is may opinion and my Fact because I know that work I'm using it.

that is your opinion is yours guessing.

I'm a intelligent person and I will not continue your game, you can continue confusing the users.

I'm a Super Mod on other site but I can see that you cant receive any suggestion.

good luck with your guess !!!!
Nobody is guessing and you are trying to put words in our mouths.
Nobody said your set up won't work only that there could potentially be a problem at some point depending on the voltage of the power supply.
I really don't care what site your are a mod at. Both Terryl and I have been in this game a long time and for you to come in here and say we are guessing is totally absurd when in fact we are not.

As for playing games and misleading our members, that is not something we do.

Now since you have hijacked and taken over this thread which is not yours I am closing it.

[Terryl]

isn't the same because you know that the car doesn't have oil.

now again you and Terryl have to accept that are wrong, if you 2 have some problem doesn't mean that we have the same problem verify your system or coax line call a technician that can correct your problem because again I and a lot more that 100 people is using DPP33 and DP34 with out any problem.

you 2 are guessing, if the problem come in 2 or 4 month you are correct, but more that 1 or 3 years, your 2 are wrong.

you 2 are saying the same as the people that said the end of the word on 2000 or the end or word on 2010, the was guessing and you are saying the same.


ok, this is a Forum that we can make a opinion and any testify any test that we make,. the DPP33 and DP34 works on Dreamlink,.. that is may opinion and my Fact because I know that work I'm using it.

that is your opinion is yours guessing.

I'm a intelligent person and I will not continue your game, you can continue confusing the users.

I'm a Super Mod on other site but I can see that you cant receive any suggestion.

good luck with your guess !!!!

I have a Doctorate in eletrical engineering, whats your qualifications.....I don't guess. I state the facts..

[hutch]

It doesn't matter if it's a internal or external power supply. If you are overloading it it may fail down the road depending on it's DC specs and your LNB specs. Have you ever ran a car without motor oil? At some point the motor will over heat and fail.

But Anubis ... that's a guess too because you can't tell him exactly how long the motor will run before it blows...lol... there will be a new model out to buy by the time it no longer runs... gotta love the logic...

[Costactc]

Good job on closing this one Anubis. Some peeps think they know it all..........