View Full Version : 6 Sats On Jynxbox Ultra HD
ryadh10
10-16-2014, 02:12 AM
I have Sats 82-91, 97, 110 and 118-119 together. I am using 4x1 Diseqc switch emp centuri with SW 21 switch for 82-91. Unfortunately i get a lot of losing signal on 82-91 even when i switch a sat to another but on 82 i get no signal with sw 21 diseqc and i heard that the sw 21 is not working very well with jynxbox, i heard that ecoda diseqc 22khz work way better so with the ecoda switch how my setting on jynxbox should it be exactly? Here the Sats that i have on the diseqc: port1:97 port2:118-119 port3:110 port4:82-91 with SW 21 Switch
Terryl
10-16-2014, 04:45 AM
If all the LNB's are the same type you could try a Diseqc 8x1 or a 8x2 switch.
But first off make sure all switches and other hardware are bonded together and properly grounded to a good earth ground.
This can be done first, as some switch problems can be traced back to ground loops and other strange stuff.
Use a #12 gauge copper wire to bond all switches to one ground point, then run that to a good earth ground.
iq180
10-16-2014, 12:53 PM
What Terryl posted should be done on all setups, now you didn't post what jynxbox you have or what firmware you are using and
if I remember there was some of the firmware that didn't play well with the SW21 switch.
ryadh10
10-16-2014, 03:01 PM
i have jynxbox v2 firmware 2.43.
Terryl
10-16-2014, 03:20 PM
I would try the bonding of all switches to a good ground, then lets see what happens.
ryadh10
10-16-2014, 06:45 PM
but why should i use the switch 8x1 what about the 4x1 if the little probleme is for 91-82 mainly for 82 cause this one i get no signal it work when I plug it directly into the on the receiver with the lnb and the 91 work great but sometimes not all the time when i switch on another channel it get no signal but after skiping 3-4 channels the signal return so the big problem is more the 82 i hope you understand.
Terryl
10-16-2014, 09:12 PM
You should ground all the switches first, it may take care of everything.
Using an 8x1 switch will give you less hardware to go bad, less connections to go bad and more signal to work with, the 2-4x1 Diseqc switches and the 22 KHz switch add about 6 to 8 dB of signal loss to the overall system, this is about 1/2 of your total RF voltage on the system, you may have XX dB from the Dish side and YY dB from the BEV side, with the 82 leg having a bit less signal to work with.
All coax should be of the RG-6 quad type (or standard single shield for a short run) and rated to 2.5 to 3 GHz, every connection adds loss, every coax jumper adds loss, every switch adds loss, add it up and you may be at the lower limit for the receivers AGC circuit on the 82 side of the system, this can cause problems like your having.
ryadh10
10-17-2014, 01:32 AM
i see and what kind of brand switch 8x1 should i get, i mean witch one will work very well without problem with jynxbox ultra?
Terryl
10-17-2014, 05:01 AM
There are several good ones out there, but most have tried the one from EMP.
An idea on the type(s) of LNB's you have would give us a better idea if that switch would work with your setup or not.
And check your settings for the satellite too see if you have a Diseqc 1.1 or 2.0 selection.
But again before you run out and buy a new switch and do a ton of re-cabling, have you thought about doing the bonding to a good ground? It may fix your problems.(or maybe not)
uppadharmai
10-17-2014, 11:32 AM
Fewer switches is better so either get yourself a diseqc 1.1 8x1 switch or an ecoda 22khz. if so turn on in antenna settings for sats connected to 0khz or 22khz ports.
Btw, you mentioned you had a jynxbox. Instead of getting another switch, why not purchase another original jb200 on ebay or kijiji, and connect a seperate wire from sw21 switch to second jb200. The good thing about jynxbox is that its a dual tuner.
Mavrick
10-17-2014, 02:10 PM
I have Sats 82-91, 97, 110 and 118-119 together. I am using 4x1 Diseqc switch emp centuri with SW 21 switch for 82-91. Unfortunately i get a lot of losing signal on 82-91 even when i switch a sat to another but on 82 i get no signal with sw 21 diseqc and i heard that the sw 21 is not working very well with jynxbox, i heard that ecoda diseqc 22khz work way better so with the ecoda switch how my setting on jynxbox should it be exactly? Here the Sats that i have on the diseqc: port1:97 port2:118-119 port3:110 port4:82-91 with SW 21 Switch
By the sounds of this set-up you are running 82-91 into the SW21 then into one of the ports on the diseqc switch. I have often seen signal issues when doing it this way. Try running 4 sats into the diseqc then running the diseqc into one side of the SW21, then the 5th sat into the other side of the SW21. See if that fixes the issue........
ryadh10
10-18-2014, 12:02 AM
By the sounds of this set-up you are running 82-91 into the SW21 then into one of the ports on the diseqc switch. I have often seen signal issues when doing it this way. Try running 4 sats into the diseqc then running the diseqc into one side of the SW21, then the 5th sat into the other side of the SW21. See if that fixes the issue........
that is exactly what im using, the sat 91 on sw 21 on A and B the 82 then out receiver cable to port4 diseqc is that what you want to say?
Terryl
10-18-2014, 12:53 AM
Ground ground ground ground
ryadh10
10-18-2014, 08:07 PM
Ground ground ground ground
what do you mean about ground can you be more specific?
Mavrick
10-18-2014, 10:29 PM
that is exactly what im using, the sat 91 on sw 21 on A and B the 82 then out receiver cable to port4 diseqc is that what you want to say?
Read the last 2 lines of post #11
ryadh10
10-18-2014, 11:14 PM
here's what i got on the setting on the receiver jynxbox ultra
Sat 110
TRANSP:12224
LNB FREQ:11250
DISEQC 1.0:Port3
DISEQC1.1:Disable
LEGACY SW:OFF
LEGACY LNB:OFF
22K:OFF
POLIRATY:AUTO
Sat 118
transp:11715
lnb freq:universal 9750-10750
diseqc 1.0:port2
diseqc 1,1:disable
legacy sw:off
legacy lnb:off
22k:auto
polarity:auto
Sat 119
transp:12224
lnb freq:10600
diseqc 1,0:port2
diseqc 1,1:disable
legacy sw:off
legacy lnb:off
22k:off
polarity:auto
Sat 91
transp:12224
lnb freq:11250
diseqc 1,0:port4
diseqc 1,1:disable
legacy sw: SW21 dish1
legacy lnb:legacy twin lnb1
22k:off
polarity:auto
Sat 82
transp:12224
lnb freq:11250
diseqc 1.0:port4
diseqc 1.1:disable
legacy sw: SW21 dish 2
legacy lnb: legacy twin lnb2
22k:off
polarity:auto
Sat 97
transp:10750
lnb freq:11836
diseqc 1,0:port1
diseqc 1,1:disable
legacy sw:off
legacy lnb:off
22k:off
polarity:auto
ryadh10
10-26-2014, 10:56 PM
i received my ecoda switch i replaced with my sw 21 but i still have no signal with 82 no luck and i even lost a bit signal with my 91 but it still working.
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