echo*7

[secheltpaul]

NASA and ION don't seam to be on echostar7 .
has anyone else noticed this?

[StanW]

Yes - has been reported by many members.

[andyb2]

They scrambled nasa too? Thought it was a law it had to free and clear.

[stman]

They scrambled nasa too? Thought it was a law it had to free and clear.

No, it's also scrambled on DTV.

This eliminates the excuse that you are watching the FTA channels, if you have a DN dish. Doesn't it?

[WillDekkard]

Even Angel One is scrambled. I guess you can say there was FTA channels there once! freeDBS.org does list NASA in it's channel list so this could be a prelude to something? :noidea: Dang providers, won't even give us scraps. :no:

[Costactc]

Thats right Bowhunter, at 87w on c band is where you can find Nasa.

[Bowhunters]

NASA only moved, pretty sure they are still in the clear.

They are now on AMC3 87w.


ooooops, my bad. I deleted and reposted. LOL

[lpinoy]

ION still in 119/Echo 7, they move the channel to 882...

[stman]

ION still in 119/Echo 7, they move the channel to 882...

they move some of the channel's..

That channel has been there. It is a mirror of 216. It is encrypted, but open on some IKS receivers. I'm guessing you have one of them. :)

[TurboPirate]

They scrambled nasa too? Thought it was a law it had to free and clear.

I remember reading that on the web, public info is not for sale, lets see where this ends between NASA and DN.

[stman]

I remember reading that on the web, public info is not for sale, lets see where this ends between NASA and DN.

You still have the choice to get it off an FTA satellite, but DN has the right to encrypt it if it's on their satellite. There is no law or rule about it. If public info really wasn't for sale, then the federal courts couldn't have the PACER system to retrieve court documents. :)

[lpinoy]

nasa channel 213 Echo 7/119, ion channel 216 Echo 7/ 119 and ion channel 217 Echo 10/110 are working using k-box Rec..

[JCO]

No, it's also scrambled on DTV.

This eliminates the excuse that you are watching the FTA channels, if you have a DN dish. Doesn't it?

Well it seems 101 is still clear... not much of an excuse though...LOL
The free previews are a better one, when they have them..

[Tragik]

also the free and clear hdtheater on 4264 is encrypted as well, guess one way charlie can say we don't need to be looking at their stuff i guess

[TurboPirate]

You still have the choice to get it off an FTA satellite, but DN has the right to encrypt it if it's on their satellite. There is no law or rule about it. If public info really wasn't for sale, then the federal courts couldn't have the PACER system to retrieve court documents. :)

Yes but they got no right to encrypt a channel where there is a contract and a monthly fee payed to charlie for having their channel in that sat. That is the document I read on the web, NASA pays for having the channel UP in DN Sat and they gave Charlie a contract where it states the channel has to be OPEN, not because the sat belongs to you you can just encrypt any channel, you can do this with channels you don't have a contract.

[stman]

Yes but they got no right to encrypt a channel where there is a contract and a monthly fee payed to charlie for having their channel in that sat. That is the document I read on the web, NASA pays for having the channel UP in DN Sat and they gave Charlie a contract where it states the channel has to be OPEN, not because the sat belongs to you you can just encrypt any channel, you can do this with channels you don't have a contract.

Sorry, but NASA pays for no Ku feeds for their channel. Anything you've seen that says that is erroneous. Feel free to look at their budget or their own website.


From /http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/digital.html
NASA TV provides only C-band digital service (no Ku-band).

DN only has the obligation to provide public access channels to their customers, not everyone that has a dish and some type of receiver. I wish it was otherwise, but that's the way it is. :)

[DVB_Junkie]

Bad News:
Bummer, Echo*7 (119w) has now locked more ITC channels with Nagra 3.
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http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-9/1322886/DN_Echo%207_119_New%20N3%20Ch_v2.JPG
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Good News:
7-Day EPG stream is clear 119w @ 12486 MHz ... and 110w @ 12516 MHz
Re-Mix Music channel "SING" Ch 19059 on 110w 12530 MHz is clear also.