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Bonzo
12-10-2014, 06:14 PM
http://cdn1-www.ringtv.craveonline.com/wp-content/themes/ringtv/images/default-author-image.png Lem Satterfield (http://ringtv.craveonline.com/author/lem) Oscar De La Hoya: Canelo Alvarez agrees to face Miguel Cotto December 9, 2014


http://cdn1-www.ringtv.craveonline.com/assets/uploads/2014/12/Canelo-Alvarez-vs-Lara-by-josh-hedges-getty.jpgCanelo Alvarez (L) fighting Erislandy Lara on July 12, 2014. Photo by Josh Hedges/Getty Images.


No. 1-rated junior middleweight Canelo Alvarez has agreed to terms for a May 2 bout against RING middleweight champion Miguel Cotto, Golden Boy Promotions President Oscar De La Hoya informed RingTV.com on Tuesday.
Although he has been working primarily with Top Rank President Todd duBoef and Cotto’s legal adviser, Gaby Penagaricano, De La Hoya said Top Rank CEO Bob Arum was also involved in the talks.
“My side is done and dealt with. We have agreed. So now, I’m waiting on Bob to get their side done,” said De La Hoya.
“Bob and I talked about the major issues that were a possible concern. But after our conversation, we found out that this fight will get made relatively sooner than anticipated. So we’re getting closer. We are getting closer. I have no doubt in my mind that we will get Canelo-Cotto done for the May 2 of next year.”
The bout would appear on HBO Pay-Per-View. (http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/357005-canelo-alvarez-signs-long-term-commitment-with-hbo) on the Mexican holiday weekend of Cinco de Mayo, and is being targeted for San Antonio, Dallas, Las Vegas or New York.
Arum characterized himself as helping to “solve an impasse,” emphasizing that DuBoef and Penagaricano were leading the discussions on behalf of Cotto.
“I am not the one who is negotiating,” said Arum. “What happened was, there was an impasse, and Oscar reached out to me and I met with him, and we discussed how to solve the impasse and it was a very productive meeting. But the idea that I’m involved in conducting the negotiations with him is just not correct. I was called in to help out and to help to move the negotiations along. I believe that we had a very productive meeting, Oscar and I.
“We’re still negotiating. Miguel has not been informed yet of various details of the negotiations, and everything is progressing favorably. But it has to take a little bit more time. We have to go through the process.”
Cotto (39-4, 31 knockouts), of Puerto Rico, was last in the ring for his 10th-round technical knockout (http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/342539-miguel-cotto-stops-sergio-martinez-in-finest-performance-of-career#/slide/1)of Sergio Martinez in June at New York’s Madison Square Garden, where Cotto is immensely popular. Cotto, 34, is 8-1 with five knockouts at The Garden, and 10-1 overall in New York with six knockouts.
A 24-year-old Mexican star, Alvarez (44-1-1, 31 KOs) is coming off a split-decision victory (http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/34728http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/347705-alvarez-beats-lara-but-the-debate-on-who-really-won-continues#/slide/1) over Erislandy Lara in July.
Prior to Lara, Alvarez scored a 10th-round stoppage (http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/324093-canelo-alvarez-tames-alfredo-angulo-stops-el-perro-in-10-rounds) of Alfredo Angulo that helped him to rebound from his majority-decision loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. in September 2013. The Mayweather and Angulo bouts were both contested at the MGM Grand.
Prior to his loss to Floyd Mayweather Jr. in September 2013, Alvarez scored a unanimous decision over previously unbeaten Austin Trout that drew nearly 40,000 to The Alamodome in San Antonio, Texas.
It is primarily for that reason that the Alamodome is a consideration, as is the Dallas Cowboys’ Stadium, whose owner, Jerry Jones, has expressed interest in hosting Cotto against Alvarez.
“Las Vegas is a consideration. Texas is a consideration, especially with Jerry Jones wanting to host big fights, and especially with the Alamodome, which there is no doubt in my mind we will break the Julio Cesar Chavez-Pernell Whitaker record,” said De La Hoya, referring to the Sept. 10, 1993, fight which attracted 58,891.
“In terms of attendance, I am sure that will happen. New York is not out of the question, but our priorities are Las Vegas and Texas for this fight. So the venue still is open as to where we’re going to bring it, but first things first, and that’s that we have agreed on some major points, which is a huge step in the right direction. So I have no doubt in my mind that Canelo and Cotto will be fighting on Cinco De Mayo, and we’re moving in the right direction.”
Cotto-Alvarez could be a monster event given that Alvarez’s loss to Mayweather grossed a record $150 million (http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/180935-mayweather-alvarez-grosses-record-150-million), and Cotto is widely considered the most lucrative pay-per-view attraction in boxing behind Mayweather and Pacquiao.
De La Hoya has called a match between Cotto and Alvarez “very important toward possibly seeing the pugilistic rivalry (http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/342413-oscar-de-la-hoya-miguel-cotto-canelo-alvarez-would-be-huge) between Mexico and Puerto Rico once again,” adding, “It would be Salvador [Sanchez] vs. [Wilfredo] Gomez, [Julio Cesar] Chavez Sr. vs [Edwin] Rosario, [Oscar] De La Hoya vs. [Felix] Trinidad. Huge!”

Bonzo
12-10-2014, 06:16 PM
I think this will be a great mismatch.
Canelo would enter the ring way to big for Cotto with all due respect.

steven charles
12-10-2014, 07:20 PM
where they get that cotto is widely considered the mostly lucrative pay-per-view attraction in boxing behind mayweather and pacquiao that's funny,lol,,but it should be a good fight and alvarez will win by tko,,,,:tehe:

KIDWCKED
12-10-2014, 10:01 PM
this will be a great fight..prolly much better than boring PBF bouts..jmo..:)

rudee
12-11-2014, 03:37 AM
Bonzo hit the nail on the head!!
Plus the fact that Cotto has taken some heavy heavy punishment
in his illustrious past. Too many. He will give it his all tough.
But,, to no avail.

aquariusone
12-11-2014, 06:13 AM
Hmmmm.....you guys don't give credit to Cotto's resurgence! I will say that he has great chance for an upset (if he is the underdog!)

rudee
12-11-2014, 04:58 PM
Canelo will be the favorite.. big, young and hardly been hit... ran like a jackrabbit against Floyd.
I see alotta body shots hurting an older Miguel.
The Trout beating still lingers in people's heads.
Amigo Fib... que piensas? Can Miguel do it???

Condor
12-11-2014, 06:44 PM
I think this will be a great mismatch.
Canelo would enter the ring way to big for Cotto with all due respect.




Hmmmm.....you guys don't give credit to Cotto's resurgence! I will say that he has great chance for an upset (if he is the underdog!)

I agree with both of you... Canelo is just too big for Cotto.. But don't ever under estimate Cotto.. So many have counted him out and just look at him still going strong...........Should be a great fight I can't wait to see it...........

rudee
12-11-2014, 10:53 PM
Well, one thing might be in Miguel's favor.. we don't know how good Canelo's
chin is.. never really been hit that hard.
Cotto will tag him.. we will see how Canelo takes a big left hook.

Fibroso
12-12-2014, 02:36 AM
Canelo will be the favorite.. big, young and hardly been hit... ran like a jackrabbit against Floyd.
I see alotta body shots hurting an older Miguel.
The Trout beating still lingers in people's heads.
Amigo Fib... que piensas? Can Miguel do it???

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/fiberman13/IMG_163903655637785_zps6409af91.jpeg (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/fiberman13/media/IMG_163903655637785_zps6409af91.jpeg.html)
My answer to your question amigo!!!!

monchino
12-12-2014, 05:28 PM
Team Cotto denies to Oscar De la Hoya <br />
Philadelphia - surprised. So was the legal advisor Miguel Angel Cotto, Gabriel Peñagarícano after statements where Oscar de la Hoya, promoter of the Mexican...

Fibroso
12-13-2014, 01:21 PM
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Bonzo
12-30-2014, 11:37 PM
Cotto’s adviser says $40 million offer to fight Mayweather is false By Rob Smith (http://www.boxing247.com/author/rob-smith) | December 30, 2014 |

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Gaby Penagaricano, the adviser for WBC middleweight champion Miguel Cotto, says that the rumor of Cotto receiving a $40 million offer to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr is false. There was no such offer made. On Sunday, there was a rumor that Mayweather’s adviser Al Haymon had offered Cotto $40 million to fight Mayweather next.
It was a crazy rumor because there was no way that an offer of that size would work given the huge $30 million+ that Mayweather typically gets for his fights. A rematch between Cotto and Mayweather wouldn’t bring in over 2 million buys like the Mayweather vs. Saul “Canelo” Alvarez fight, and it would be lucky to do more than 1 million pay-per-view buys, because a lot of boxing fans would likely not be interested in seeing a second fight between them.


Canelo is still the guy that Penagaricano is attempting to negotiate a fight with for Cotto. The date isn’t important, Penagaricano says. Cotto isn’t mentally wrapped up in fighting on May 2nd like Canelo is, so it’s unclear if the fight would even take place on that date even though Canelo has repeatedly said he was going to take the Mexican holiday dates back from Mayweather.
If Cotto decides he doesn’t want to fight Canelo on May 2nd, then Canelo will need to try and take the Mexican fight date in September from Mayweather.
“No, the information is false,” Penagaricano said to RingTV.com about the rumor that Cotto received a $40 million offer to fight Mayweather. “We did not get offered $40 million to fight Floyd.”
The Cotto-Canelo fight is still stuck on the financial part of the negotiations. This was the part of the negotiations that you could predict going in would be a major problem, because Canelo likely wouldn’t budge from wanting a 50-50 purse split, and even if he did move off that number, it wouldn’t be far. It wouldn’t be surprising if this keeps the fight from getting made.
With Cotto being the A-side, it’s natural that he’d want the bigger slice of the financial pie. He’s done more with his career, and he’s the more experienced fighter. It obviously takes two to tango, but you can understand Cotto if he decides he doesn’t want to get the much younger 24-year-old Canelo a 50-50 or even a 55-45 deal given the huge gap in experience and achievements between the two fighters.

KIDWCKED
12-30-2014, 11:53 PM
maybe cotto vs bradley cud be an option..jmo.

aquariusone
12-31-2014, 01:17 AM
Why is the negotiation between Cotto and Alvarez stalling?

In spite of a lot of interest on Canelo's side, Penagaricano, Cotto's legal adviser, has yet to come to terms with the "MONEY" split. Jose Reynoso (Canelo's manager) believes that his boxer deserves more than a 50/50 split. The Cotto side thinks that they should have a bigger piece of the pie. Do boxing fans really care?

This is what is wrong with boxing. Money and not Pride dictates what matches take place. This match should revive the PUERTO RICO/MEXICO boxing rivalry and like Dela Hoya, I believe it will be an explosive matchup.(I like Cotto's chances!)

Amidst this jostling, some rumours are popping up! FORGET COTTO/MAYWEATHER! Who will watch that? Forget GLOLOVKIN/COTTO. Actually, forget about any other combination. COTTO/ALVAREZ is what everyone wants to see.

Why can't they simply agree on a 50/50 split with a 15% bonus on the eventual winner and a 15% penalty on the loser? Vote on Aqua to be the boxing mediator!

rudee
12-31-2014, 05:02 AM
Its called GREED Aqua!

I am losing interest in this fight fast!

Fibroso
12-31-2014, 01:23 PM
Its called GREED Aqua!

I am losing interest in this fight fast!

Who's tittle is at stake here? Should it be Dallas, Vegas, San Juan or MSG? Guys we need to be focus here.
After anwering these questions, someone must give up and get it done.

Condor
12-31-2014, 04:39 PM
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My answer to your question amigo!!!!

Fib I have a lot of respect for Cotto.. But just to 'spite" here u go... Lol....

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rudee
12-31-2014, 05:37 PM
Course Miguel has changed his style of fighting since these gruesome pics were taken.
And has had much success. But as I posted before.. Canelo too young, strong and big
for Miguel.
Sergio was a shot fighter when Miguel beat him...
But I do have all the respect in the world for Miguel.. one of my all time favorites.
But lets do it!!! BIG payday for everyone! Saving for the ppv right now as i write.
My vieja gave me $5 bucks for Christmas.

Fibroso
01-01-2015, 04:23 PM
Course Miguel has changed his style of fighting since these gruesome pics were taken.
And has had much success. But as I posted before.. Canelo too young, strong and big
for Miguel.
Sergio was a shot fighter when Miguel beat him...
But I do have all the respect in the world for Miguel.. one of my all time favorites.
But lets do it!!! BIG payday for everyone! Saving for the ppv right now as i write.
My vieja gave me $5 bucks for Christmas.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f204/fiberman13/4bucks_home350_zpsf99be5a0.jpg (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/fiberman13/media/4bucks_home350_zpsf99be5a0.jpg.html)

That's a lot of meat,rudee!!!
Happy New Year!!!

rudee
01-01-2015, 09:29 PM
Happy New Year to you Fib! and to all my fellow posters on this fine forum!!!
Looking forward to a good boxing year! (if we can get these guys to fight)

Bonzo
01-03-2015, 06:02 PM
Canelo: The fans of the world want me to face Cotto By Jeff Sorby | January 3, 2015 |

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Saul “Canelo” Alvarez (44-1-1, 31 KOs) isn’t shy about letting people know how badly he wants a fight against WBC middleweight champion Miguel Cotto (39-4, 32 KOs) on Cinco de Mayo on May 2nd. Canelo believes that a fight against the 34-year-old Cotto is something that all of boxing wants to see. He may be correct to a certain extent.
There are a lot of fans who want to see that fight take place. However, there are still major question marks about Canelo’s talent level after his three step up fights against Austin Trout, Erislandy Lara and Floyd Mayweather Jr. Even if Canelo beats Cotto, he’s still going to have a lot to prove against other fighters like Gennady Golovkin.


Canelo still has unfinished business with Lara, Trout and Mayweather, because he struggled badly in all three of those fights.
“I believe and think the fans of the world, especially Puerto Rico, want me to face Cotto,” Canelo said via RingTV.com.
It’s a good fight, to be sure. But it’s really just the beginning for Canelo if he gets past Cotto. Canelo would have to prove that he has the nerve to hold onto the WBC title and face a real middleweight like Golovkin or Peter Quillin.
If Canelo vacates the title rather than facing Golovkin, he’s going to look incredibly bad, even if his promoter Oscar De La Hoya takes the lead in giving excuses for why Canelo is choosing not to face Golovkin. We’ve already seen other top fighters’ promoters say that Golovkin doesn’t bring much to the table because he’s not a pay-per-view fighter as of now. This is something that De La Hoya might use to explain why Canelo can’t or won’t fight Golovkin.
After the controversy surrounding Canelo’s last fight against Lara, De La Hoya basically told Lara to get in line behind the other fighters to try and get a fight against Canelo because he wasn’t going to be given a rematch. Their clearly rated a rematch because a lot of fans felt that Lara beat Canelo, or at least fought him closely enough to deserve a draw.

Fibroso
01-04-2015, 02:11 PM
After the controversy surrounding Canelo’s last fight against Lara, De La Hoya basically told Lara to get in line behind the other fighters to try and get a fight against Canelo because he wasn’t going to be given a rematch. Their clearly rated a rematch because a lot of fans felt that Lara beat Canelo, or at least fought him closely enough to deserve a draw.
Well said, contrary Mayweather/Pac, Cotto can claim a better offer from Golden Boy Promo. his title is on stake. He can get better deals elsewhere. Erislandy Lara, Quillin etc

rudee
01-04-2015, 08:37 PM
The memory of Canelo vs Floyd still lingers like a bad dream in my head...
Total choke...fear is probably a better word.
Lost total respect for Canelo on that one.. especially telling all the latino folk
to buy it on ppv cuz he was gonna kick Floyds ass... DID NOT win a round in most
folks eyes!!!! I root against him in every fight.