mpeg4

[BIGPAPI1]

I heard dn will move eastern arc to western arc by may31, 2015. Any thruth behind it?? Also heard that sd boxes will be useless.

[Nostradamus]

I don't know why they would be moving channels from 1 arc to the other. the eastern arc exists because too many people on the east coast are in a location where they are able to grab the western sats

and yes if they just upped all channels to Mpeg4 compression then older SD baxes only capable of MPEG2 would be useless. Rumor has it though that in addition to upgrading the comppression method to allow for more channels that they will also be changing the encryption method as well so current HD boxes may no longer work either

[abouttosnap]

From some of the things I've seen and read if we get passed the first quarter of 2015 we should be in good shape...but if this new system works like they plan on it working we may all fade to black.

[BIGPAPI1]

If the signal is converted to mpeg4, will a sat realignment be necessary?? Lnb change? Will a jynxbox ultra hd be mpeg4 capable be able to be used concurrently with iks??

[Costactc]

If the signal is converted to mpeg4, will a sat realignment be necessary?? Lnb change? Will a jynxbox ultra hd be mpeg4 capable be able to be used concurrently with iks??

No sat realignment or lnb change, jynbox ultra hd would be compatible unless they change their encryption method.

[Glatt]

That is why IPTV is hopefully the way to go!!

[BIGPAPI1]

just to make a correction. dn target is the eastern arc and that why they moved hd channels from the western arc to the eastern arc. its worth to mention that DISH is *NOT* moving all of their customers over to Eastern Arc. They are only moving customers in select markets ... markets specifically chosen because they can receive Eastern Arc satellites. Not west coast markets.

[dishuser]

just to make a correction. dn target is the eastern arc and that why they moved hd channels from the western arc to the eastern arc. its worth to mention that DISH is *NOT* moving all of their customers over to Eastern Arc. They are only moving customers in select markets ... markets specifically chosen because they can receive Eastern Arc satellites. Not west coast markets.
sorry but you're wrong
there's a reason for east and west
it's where people live and receive signal
they are not moving hd so those on the west can't get it..lol

[buddy b]

It wouldn't make too much sence to take people on west coast off "ceil 2" at 129
Would it? Isn't that one of dn's newest birds?

[whatsup745]

2 changes are being implemented by Dish this year.

1) channels are being converted to MPEG4 which will render useless all FTA boxes not Mpeg4 compatible. This covers most SD boxes. This is NOT the end of IKS but it is the end for many FTA receivers. I have been told the first phase will be locals.


2) the implementation of AnyCast encryption. This is being delivered to DN in the first quarter of 2015 and they will roll it out gradually. Timeline for this is unknown but it will happen this year. Guesstimates is by mid-summer based on past history of rollouts of encryption.

#2 will be the end of IKS as AnyCast does not use the Control word which is what IKS is all about.

[steven charles]

most of the newer fta boxes are compatible with mpeg4 if not all.....

[ChillyWilly]

2 changes are being implemented by Dish this year.

1) channels are being converted to MPEG4 which will render useless all FTA boxes not Mpeg4 compatible. This covers most SD boxes. This is NOT the end of IKS but it is the end for many FTA receivers. I have been told the first phase will be locals.


2) the implementation of AnyCast encryption. This is being delivered to DN in the first quarter of 2015 and they will roll it out gradually. Timeline for this is unknown but it will happen this year. Guesstimates is by mid-summer based on past history of rollouts of encryption.

#2 will be the end of IKS as AnyCast does not use the Control word which is what IKS is all about.

Do we know for sure if anycast can be used with legacy Dish boxes???

[fn59]

It's not so much changing stream to MPEG4, they're changing the modulation to turbo 8psk.
Here's a c/p of what I've found.

Just rec'd the following:

We would like to make you aware that, in preparation for the launch of a new satellite, certain existing DISH customers will be required to complete equipment migrations in order to ensure that they do not experience any service interruption once the new satellite is operational. This migration will be taking place over the next year and DISH will be reaching out to customers to inform them of any necessary changes beginning next week.

Attached are the letters that will be sent in this first round of communication to impacted customers. As we move forward, additional communication may be sent to customers who have yet to migrate. DISH will be handling all migrations, so if a customer calls a Sales Partner, the agent should transfer the call to DISH as they usually would for existing customer upgrades.

Below is an overview of the two types of migration that DISH may be performing for the customers involved:

QPSK Migration
Existing customers with one or more QPSK receiver on their account will be asked to upgrade to a more current receiver.
QPSK receivers include:
301, 2800, 3700, 3900, 4900, 1000/1500, 3000/3500, 4000/4500, 5000/5500, 501, 508, 510
The customer’s QPSK receivers will be upgraded at no upfront cost. The customer will also not be required to enter into a new commitment. An upfront cost and a new commitment may be required if a customer requests an upgrade to a Hopper system.
These migrations must be completed by May 2015.


Eastern Arc Markets Migration
Existing customers in certain DMAs will be required to upgrade to all MPEG-4 (HD) receivers and have their antenna flipped to the Eastern Arc.
The customer will be upgraded and their antenna flipped at no cost. The customer will also not be required to enter into a new commitment. An upfront cost and a new commitment may be required if a customer requests an upgrade to a Hopper system.
The migrations in the below DMAs must be completed by the end of 2015. Additional DMAs are being migrated on a reactive basis only, but these customers will not be receiving migration letters at this time.



DMA
1
Albany Plus
2
Boston Plus (has Burlington)
3
Buffalo, NY
4
Burlington Plus
5
Burlington, VT/Plattsburg, NY
6
Chattanooga, TN
7
Evansville, IN
8
Jackson, MS
9
Jacksonville, FL/Brunswick, GA
10
Lansing, MI
11
Madison, WI
12
Northeast Portland-Auburn
13
Panama City, FL
14
Portland/Auburn, ME
15
Portland-Auburn Plus
16
Presque Isle, ME
17
Quincy, IL
18
Rockford, IL
19
Springfield, MO
20
Tallahassee, FL
21
Wheeling, WV/Steubenville, OH

[ChillyWilly]

Thanks for the update...... I'm thinking the implementation of anycast is part of the reason for the upgrade, although DN is not saying so. JMO, but the 301 box is over 10 years old, so it's hard to believe it could ever be used with anycast? In fact, since anycast merges encryption and compression in to one process, wouldn't that require the use of cardless boxes?

[sunfire19]

yes I have just read that anycast has to be in the new boxes because of a new chip but not every one will be getting new boxes so for them to put anycast in all boxes is not ganna happen they would have to switch all boxes out and cards the biggest thing is them going mpeg4 and then we will only need new fta boxes just what I have been reading

[ChillyWilly]

I remember DN came out with cardless boxes 2 or 3 years ago...... so I'm thinking those boxes have the needed hardware? and that DN knew this solution would be coming back then?

[dishuser]

I remember DN came out with cardless boxes 2 or 3 years ago...... so I'm thinking those boxes have the needed hardware? and that DN knew this solution would be coming back then?they're not exactly cardless and have a card slot if ever there is a card swap
and they've been out almost 10 years now

[Highwayman]

One of my units a 301 its done Friday!The 211 is its replacement.I can still caputure the streams but for how long??

[buckrogers]

Im running a 311 and never got notice of it

[dishuser]

Im running a 311 and never got notice of it


probably cause it' 's mpeg4..lol

[Hulk]

Dish network article for those that don't believe what's coming.
Taken from CED magazine




Dish, Nagra integrate security to cut off piracy
Fri, 09/12/2014 - 1:49pm
Brian Santo
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Nagra said Dish Network is first customer to deploy its new security system, which hardwires conditional access into set-top chips.

AnyCast Command, part of Nagra’s new AnyCast Security Services Platform, puts both decryption and descrambling into a single, secure Nagra device. Since the launch of digital TV in the 1990’s, these functions have occurred in two separate devices, namely the conditional access vendor’s smart card and the set-top box chipset, Nagra explained.

The arrangement has been exploited in recent years by content pirates, and companies that develop content protection technology agree that something new has to be tried. Pirates have been compromising control words (CW) with control word sharing (CWS). CWs are used to unlock content. Pirates have learned way to infiltrate CW networks; they steal CWs then distribute them – CWS.

One approach to frustrate CWS-based piracy is to integrate the functions – if there’s no CW network, there’s nothing to hack.

Nagra says it developed anyCast Command “in close cooperation” with EchoStar Technologies, which builds set-tops for Dish and will be the first set-top box partner to integrate the new technology into its boxes, Nagra said.

The unification of decryption and descrambling into a single piece of silicon not only exponentially increases the security of the CAS system, but also simplifies integration by reducing much of the STB testing and certification that was required when these two elements were separated, Nagra said.

Maurice van Riek, senior vice president, head of content and asset security for Nagra, said, “To date, the fight against control word sharing has been a cat-and-mouse game with global pirate networks, which are increasingly sophisticated in their operations. Nagra’s new approach takes full ownership and responsibility for content security within a single architecture in order to deliver a definitive knock-out punch to this type of piracy by protecting the Control Word by design.”

"As one of the leading pay-TV providers in the world, we constantly look to protect our content and network,” said Vivek Khemka, senior vice president, product management, Dish. “That’s why we decided – as part of our partnership with EchoStar and Nagra – to deploy a radically different kind of technology, anyCast Command, to help protect our service and revenues.”

AnyCast Command, in addition to eliminating CWS, will ensure pay-TV service providers are prepared for a potential future launch of 4K-UltraHD services by supporting a variety of different watermarking schemes, a key requirement of the MovieLabs Enhanced Content Protection specification for 4K VOD services, Nagra said. It will also be available in different form factors, including smart card, STB companion chip and others.

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NAGRA + DISH Network—Say The Word For Protection (Security Technology—SatBroadcasting™)


[SatNews] NAGRA has announced that DISH Network L.L.C will be the first customer to deploy NAGRA anyCAST COMMAND, the company’s new security technology that defeats popular forms of piracy like control word sharing and paves the way for ultra-secure 4K services.


The new technology is being developed in close cooperation with EchoStar Technologies L.L.C. (“EchoStar”), a wholly-owned subsidiary of EchoStar Corporation, which will be the first STB partner t o integrate the new technology into its boxes. anyCAST COMMAND, part of NAGRA’s comprehensive new anyCAST Security Services Platform, changes the paradigm for content security by concentrating both decryption and descrambling into a single, secure NAGRA device. Since the launch of digital TV in the 1990’s, these functions have occurred in two separate devices, namely the Conditional Access vendor’s smart card and the set-top box chipset. This separation of key security elements has led in recent years to new forms of piracy like Control Word Sharing (CWS) that have had a significant negative impact on payTV service providers. The unification of decryption and descrambling into a single piece of silicon produced by a security expert like NAGRA not only exponentially increases the security of the CAS system, but also simplifies integration by reducing much of the STB testing and certification that was required when these two elements were separated. anyCAST COMMAND, in addition to eliminating CWS, will ensure pay-TV service providers are prepared for a potential future launch of 4K-UltraHD services by supporting a variety of different watermarking schemes, a key requirement of the MovieLabs Enhanced Content Protection specification for 4K VOD services. It will also be available in different form factors, including smart card, STB companion chip and others.

“With this introduction of anyCAST COMMAND at DISH, EchoStar and NAGRA take the decisive lead in providing the highest level of end-to-end content security available on the market today,” said Maurice van Riek, senior vice president, head of content and asset security for NAGRA. “To date, the fight against Control Word Sharing has been a cat-and-mouse game with global pirate networks, which are increasingly sophisticated in their operations. NAGRA’s new approach takes full ownership and responsibility for content security within a single architecture in order to deliver a definitive knock-out punch to this type of piracy by protecting the Control Word by design.”

"As one of the leading payTV providers in the world, we constantly look to protect our content and network,” said Vivek Khemka, senior vice president, product management, DISH. “That’s why we decided—as part of our partnership with EchoStar and NAGRA—to deploy a radically different kind of technology, anyCAST COMMAND, to help protect our service and revenues.”

NAGRA will deliver anyCAST COMMAND to EchoStar and DISH in the first quarter of 2015, after which time the product will be available to other NAGRA customers.

For more information about NAGRA anyCAST solutions, please visit NAGRA during IBC2014 on stand 1. C81.