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The Cobra
01-21-2015, 09:07 PM
Cobra..
When the news of the Pats using deflated balls hit the news I just like so many shrugged it off and wasn`t surprised considering it was Belichek again........but the new info was that of 12 balls tested on the Pats sideline....11 of them were under inflated and that`s an impossibility as far as being a mistake goes. So we`ll have not only Spy-gate but now Deflate-gate associated with any claim to fame the Pats may achieve. And don`t bother to give me the argument that the players were innocents and didn`t know because they can tell if the ball is off a hair.

AP
The NFL says its investigation into whether the New England Patriots used underinflated footballs in the AFC championship game is ongoing after a report Tuesday night claimed the league found 11 balls were not properly inflated.

Troy Vincent, the NFL's executive vice-president for football operations, told The Associated Press that the "investigation is currently underway and we're still awaiting findings."
Vincent was responding to an ESPN report that cited anonymous league sources saying 11 of the Patriots' 12 allotted game footballs were underinflated by 2 pounds per square inch of air. ESPN did not say how that occurred.
Vincent said earlier Tuesday he expected the probe to be concluded by the end of the week. The last thing the NFL wants after a difficult season off the field is a potential cheating scandal that disrupts Super Bowl week. New England faces Seattle on Feb. 1 in Glendale, Arizona.
The Patriots, who beat Indianapolis 45-7 for the AFC title, said they were co-operating with the league, and a Seahawks spokesman said the team would defer to the league on the matter.
The NFL began looking into the issue not only because doctoring the footballs could provide a competitive advantage, but because it would compromise the integrity of the game.
Deflating a football can change the way it's gripped by a player or the way it travels through the air. Some quarterbacks and receivers prefer balls with less air or more air than the standard.
Under NFL rules, each team provides balls each game for use when its offence is on the field. The balls are inspected before the game by the officiating crew, then handled during the game by personnel provided by the home team.
Social media responses were quick late Tuesday night and into Wednesday morning.
"11 of 12 balls under-inflated can anyone spell cheating!!! #Just Saying" was the tweet from Hall of Fame receiver Jerry Rice.
"So we get to play the game again or nah? ??" tweeted Colts cornerback Darius Butler.
Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers said on ESPN radio in Milwaukee that he didn't like how referees handle the balls. If balls come in over-inflated, the referees take some air out.
"I have a major problem with the way it goes down, to be honest with you," Rodgers said. "The majority of the time, they take air out of the football. I think that, for me, is a disadvantage."
Rodgers said referees have a set range in which they "like to set game balls," and that he always liked the higher end of the range because of his grip.
"I just have a hard time throwing a flat football," Rodgers said. He thought a slight majority of quarterbacks like footballs on the flatter side.
"My belief is that there should be a minimum air-pressure requirement but not a maximum," Rodgers said. "There's no advantage, in my opinion. We're not kicking the football. There's no advantage in having a pumped-up football."
Patriots quarterback Tom Brady said the investigation is the least of his worries. And tight end Rob Gronkowski tweeted a photo of himself spiking the ball with the words: "WARNING GRONKING MAY CAUSE DEFLATION."
Patriots coach Bill Belichick on Tuesday deferred questions about the investigation, saying reporters should ask league officials. Belichick earlier said he wasn't aware there was an issue until Monday morning and promised to "co-operate fully with whatever the league wants us to, whatever questions they ask."
Belichick, of course, was fined $500,000 in 2007 for having an assistant spy on the New York Jets' defensive signals.
Special teams captain Matthew Slater said the Patriots "try to do things the right way. We work hard at our jobs, our professions, to be successful and it's unfortunate that things like this come up, but that's life, that's the world we live in."
Colts coach Chuck Pagano said he did not notice issues with the football and didn't specify when asked whether the Colts had reported the issue to officials.
"We talk just like they talk to officials (before the game)," he said. "We have an opportunity to talk to the officials about a lot of things."
Patriots wide receiver Julian Edelman said the balls didn't feel different than usual.
And defensive tackle Vince Wilfork seemed amused by the matter and didn't shed any light on it.
"I don't know anything about that," he said. "I don't touch footballs. I tackle people."
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KIDWCKED
01-21-2015, 10:34 PM
imho..the Patriots wudnt have to deflate any ballz to beat the Colts regardless...lol..

TLG
01-22-2015, 01:20 AM
If the New England Patriots intentionally deflated footballs used in Sunday's AFC championship win over the Indianapolis Colts, it wouldn't have been as easy to pull off as it might seem.

NFL rules require each team to provide 12 primary balls to the referee for testing 2 hours, 15 minutes before kickoff to ensure they fall between the proper inflation limits of 12½ to 13½ pounds per square inch. The home team also must provide 12 backup balls, and the visiting team has the option to provide 12 more for outdoor games such as Sunday's at Gillette Stadium.

The referee "shall be the sole judge as to whether all balls offered for play comply with these specifications" and the balls "remain under the supervision of the Referee until they are delivered to the ball attendant just prior to the start of the game," according to Rule 2, Section 1.

A person with intimate knowledge of the process told USA TODAY Sports the ball attendant is a uniformed official – generally the same person each week at a given stadium – who comes to the locker room to pick up the balls and takes them to the officials' locker room for testing.

The ball attendant delivers the balls to the ball boys – usually four provided by the home team and two traveling with the visiting team – who make sure their quarterback's preferred balls get into the game, said the person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak publicly.

At halftime, the balls return to the officials' locker room, the person said. So, if proper protocol is followed, the only opportunity to manipulate the balls is minutes before kickoff or during the game on the sideline, where there's a risk of anyone in the stadium and dozens of TV cameras seeing it.

Citing "league sources either involved or familiar with the investigation," ESPN reported Tuesday night that 11 of the Patriots' 12 game balls Sunday were underinflated by 2 pounds per square inch. The NFL and the Colts declined comment, and the Patriots reiterated they're cooperating with the league's investigation.

Asked how long it takes to change and measure the pressure of a football, the person said, "Ten seconds. But if they were all exactly 2 pounds under? It would be almost impossible to get them exactly all the same weight or the same psi.

"That, or you'd have to be really good at knowing exactly where to pull the needle. And then what if you take too much out? How are you going to pump it back up on the field? You can't. You need a ball pump to do it. That's what's even more weird about it. Too many moving parts."
The referee for the AFC championship game was Walt Anderson, who has participated in 253 NFL games since 1999 as a line judge and referee, according to pro-football-reference.com.

One indication something may have been amiss Sunday came after the opening kickoff of the second half, when more than 2 minutes passed before the Patriots' snap. After an initial delay, Anderson signaled to start the clock and the Patriots went to the line – only for Anderson to blow his whistle moments later as a new ball was tossed in from the New England sideline.

Former NFL referee Mike Carey, working as an officiating expert on the CBS broadcast, speculated that officials may have inadvertently spotted one of the six new "K" balls that are unsealed from a special box by officials before the game, specially marked and used exclusively for the kicking game.

This isn't the first possible ball deflation scandal. In 2012, the University of Southern California was fined and reprimanded by the Pac-12 Conference after it was discovered that one of the Trojans' student managers had intentionally deflated game balls during a loss to Oregon. The university said then-coach Lane Kiffin, his staff and the roster had no knowledge of the deflations.

TLG
01-22-2015, 01:31 AM
Haters will be haters ,,

BUT,,

1) Brady could have been throwing wet fish and still win that game ,,,
2) The Pats continued with the same ball Luck left on the field ,,,

steven charles
01-22-2015, 01:57 AM
I guess the colts try to to point everything at that the balls weren,t inflated right,to excuse them selfs of getting whipped,toss and whipped again,but like they say once a cheater always a cheater,lol,,:no:

steveOtoo
01-22-2015, 02:40 AM
I think the NFL should penalize itself for shear stupidity. It should be solely responsible for the balls after they have been delivered.............

The Cobra
01-22-2015, 03:00 AM
I guess the colts try to to point everything at that the balls weren,t inflated right,to excuse them selfs of getting whipped,toss and whipped again,but like they say once a cheater always a cheater,lol,,:no:

check out new thread..........it was the Ravens that tipped off the Colts.