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Setting up a V6 and Diseq settings don't seem to be working with 1000.2 dish and triple LNB. Get 119 on all three Diseq settings but only on a few transponders. With 100 ft of cable I have also added a power inserter. No signal without the inserter.
Have LNB set at OCS-DP and only Diseq settings used (1/119, 2/110 & 3/129). Get nothing from 110 or 129.
Any ideas much appreciated before writing this off.
Terryl
02-05-2015, 02:27 AM
How do you have the DC power inserter connected???
It should go to the #1 port of the LNB on it's own coax, if it's inline with the receiver the power inserter may affect the receiver.
Also what type of coax did you use?
The settings look to be correct.
Hi
Thanks for reply. I have the inserter in line with a single cable from receiver to LNB running to #1 port of LNB. Do you mean the inserter should just be running on its own coax with nothing on the receiver end of the power inserter?
The cable is good quality RG6.
iq180
02-05-2015, 03:00 AM
Hi
Thanks for reply. I have the inserter in line with a single cable from receiver to LNB running to #1 port of LNB. Do you mean the inserter should just be running on its own coax with nothing on the receiver end of the power inserter?
The cable is good quality RG6.
Yes the power inserter should be on its own coax cable, the jynxbox don't play well with a power inserter in line with it.
Terryl
02-05-2015, 03:28 AM
Hi
Thanks for reply. I have the inserter in line with a single cable from receiver to LNB running to #1 port of LNB. Do you mean the inserter should just be running on its own coax with nothing on the receiver end of the power inserter?
The cable is good quality RG6.
There are several types of RG-6, the stuff for satellite systems needs to be rated to 2.5 GHz or swept to 3 GHz, for the dish DP LNB to work correctly.
Thanks for the inserter tip. Put inserter on separate lnb connector and getting 119 now on all tp's, but also getting 119 on diseq 2 and 3. Is this just a dish aiming issue or is the inserter somehow overpowering the switch.
Also, on an auto scan for 119 I get Telstar and other tp #'s. Is this normal? Got 119 channels by manually scanning each tp.
Definitely a work in progress here unless I have something really out of whack...
iq180
02-05-2015, 03:41 PM
Thanks for the inserter tip. Put inserter on separate lnb connector and getting 119 now on all tp's, but also getting 119 on diseq 2 and 3. Is this just a dish aiming issue or is the inserter somehow overpowering the switch.
Also, on an auto scan for 119 I get Telstar and other tp #'s. Is this normal? Got 119 channels by manually scanning each tp.
Definitely a work in progress here unless I have something really out of whack...
Your power inserter needs to be on the first port of the LNB.
Terryl
02-05-2015, 05:21 PM
Thanks for the inserter tip. Put inserter on separate lnb connector and getting 119 now on all tp's, but also getting 119 on diseq 2 and 3. Is this just a dish aiming issue or is the inserter somehow overpowering the switch.
Also, on an auto scan for 119 I get Telstar and other tp #'s. Is this normal? Got 119 channels by manually scanning each tp.
Definitely a work in progress here unless I have something really out of whack...
Telstar ?????? What Telstar, there isn't a Telstar bird anywhere near 110W, 119W or 129W, the closest one is at 35W?
And if your not getting 110 or 129 then the dish is not skewed right, skewing the dish is like turning a steering wheel, the D1000 dish needs to be properly aligned to get the other two outside (110 and 129) satellites.
Go to dishpointer.com, enter your location, then under the Multiple LNB section, select the 110,119,129 setting, this will give you a map with a line on it (zoom into your location) and the correct settings for your location, it will also tell you what direction to twist the dish as far as the skew.
When adjusting the skew do it in very very very small increments.
My bad. I was using the multi scan option which scans all satellites. Had everything working but the diseq seems inconsistent. It gets stuck on one satellite and it can be 119, 110 or 129 regardless of the diseq setting. I think I am not getting enough power out of the v6 for the cable length even though the inserter is working. The signal improves if I disconnect the fan with the power inserter on and with the fan off and inserter off I get no usable signal. Beginning to suspect the box itself. It seems to be unstable but maybe I am on the edge with 100 ft of cable to the dish for the v6 to operate properly. It would be a big job to reroute the cable or relocate the dish. Won't be surprised if you give up on me. I can't seem to get the quirks of this box straight but will keep playing some more. Thanks.
iq180
02-05-2015, 05:46 PM
My bad. I was using the multi scan option which scans all satellites. Had everything working but the diseq seems inconsistent. It gets stuck on one satellite and it can be 119, 110 or 129 regardless of the diseq setting. I think I am not getting enough power out of the v6 for the cable length even though the inserter is working. The signal improves if I disconnect the fan with the power inserter on and with the fan off and inserter off I get no usable signal. Beginning to suspect the box itself. It seems to be unstable but maybe I am on the edge with 100 ft of cable to the dish for the v6 to operate properly. It would be a big job to reroute the cable or relocate the dish. Won't be surprised if you give up on me. I can't seem to get the quirks of this box straight but will keep playing some more. Thanks.
Look at the Pics in post 7, your dish settings should look just like that for 119.0w & 110.0w, 129.0w should look just like the others
all but the port should be port 3.
The conclusion seems to be that with a power inserter on a separate LNB port, there is a strong signal going to the receiver. However with a separate 100 foot cable run to the receiver, the V6 cant switch LNB's and stays stuck on one sat. With a 50 ft cable, the V6 does switch OK, but somewhere beyond that it fails. This was also confirmed by intermittent ability to switch with the fan disconnected. With the fan connected it will not switch at all. There is a possibility that the 100 ft cable is not up to par but it is rg6U swept to 3000. As it turns out it is stuck on 129 now and that is really all I need so that is where it will stay for now. Thanks for help and comments.
iq180
02-06-2015, 01:41 PM
The conclusion seems to be that with a power inserter on a separate LNB port, there is a strong signal going to the receiver. However with a separate 100 foot cable run to the receiver, the V6 cant switch LNB's and stays stuck on one sat. With a 50 ft cable, the V6 does switch OK, but somewhere beyond that it fails. This was also confirmed by intermittent ability to switch with the fan disconnected. With the fan connected it will not switch at all. There is a possibility that the 100 ft cable is not up to par but it is rg6U swept to 3000. As it turns out it is stuck on 129 now and that is really all I need so that is where it will stay for now. Thanks for help and comments.
The power inserter will only work on the first port of the LNB, bad coax cable or bad cable ends will cause that problem too.
Got that, but I get the same sat on all 4 diseq settings. I have got different sats at different times but now all settings show lock on 129. If it happens to switch, signal is fine on other sats so am sure aim is correct. With different cables, OK at 50 feet but if I add another 50 feet no switching occurs. This receiver may have a lower than specified power output but I don't have anything to measure that with. Other than this problem, the picture is good, channel changes are quick and epg is workable so will live with it like this for now. The beat goes on. Thanks.
iq180
02-06-2015, 04:13 PM
There is one more thing you can try, get an old DN receiver and hook it in line with the power inserter, that should boost the power
enough for the lnb to switch, if not then it could be a bad switch in the lnb or a bad JB200 module.
Update on original problem.....
The stb now has the following issue:
When the V6 is cold, (shut off with back switch for a few hours and then turned on), it will be stuck on one sat and will not switch to any other sat based on the Diseq setting. However when warmed up after a few hours, everything starts to work fine and stays that way as long as it is not turned off at the back switch.
I am thinking this points to a bad JB200 but would appreciate any other opinions. The obvious solution is never turning off the back switch, but it is only a few weeks old and I would like to get it working properly, plus it is still under warranty. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks...
iq180
02-19-2015, 08:16 PM
Update on original problem.....
The stb now has the following issue:
When the V6 is cold, (shut off with back switch for a few hours and then turned on), it will be stuck on one sat and will not switch to any other sat based on the Diseq setting. However when warmed up after a few hours, everything starts to work fine and stays that way as long as it is not turned off at the back switch.
I am thinking this points to a bad JB200 but would appreciate any other opinions. The obvious solution is never turning off the back switch, but it is only a few weeks old and I would like to get it working properly, plus it is still under warranty. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks...
It could be warter in the switch freezing, after adding power over time will melt the ice and the switch will go back to switching sats.
It could be warter in the switch freezing, after adding power over time will melt the ice and the switch will go back to switching sats.
Luckily no frost here so far but that could change tonight and connections are well protected from moisture. Do you know if the switching control is part of the tuner or some other part of the box? If I thought there was a fair chance it is the tuner I would spend the $20 for a replacement but I just don't know enough to be comfortable. I reseated the tuner because I thought that might be the problem but it didn't make any difference. Working fine now so may just leave it until something goes solid.
Thanks for suggestion.
iq180
02-20-2015, 01:12 AM
Luckily no frost here so far but that could change tonight and connections are well protected from moisture. Do you know if the switching control is part of the tuner or some other part of the box? If I thought there was a fair chance it is the tuner I would spend the $20 for a replacement but I just don't know enough to be comfortable. I reseated the tuner because I thought that might be the problem but it didn't make any difference. Working fine now so may just leave it until something goes solid.
Thanks for suggestion.
Yes the tunner is a big part of it, that and the power supply.
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