Wrong Channel Names

[bigbro]

My Sonicview 360 Premier miss labels the BEV channels. Also most of the BEV channels have a * at the beginning of the name, making it impossible to search for a specific channel. It has always been like this, just thought I would see if someone had a fix for this.

[bigbro]

Still have this problem. Has no one ever encountered this?

[runamok]

Turn on all your sort by SID options.Then you should have a 1 or 2 before bev channel number.

[bigbro]

Turn on all your sort by SID options.Then you should have a 1 or 2 before bev channel number.

The numbers are not the problem, all channels have the 2 in front. The problem is, that the channel names are not right and a lot of the channels have a * in front of the name. This makes it impossible to search for a specific channel as the * is not an option on the remote.

[abouttosnap]

Been a while since I was able to get bev this far south but have you tried the sat button on the remote and selecting bev package? Also look in the user settings and see if there is an option in there on going from dish to bev epg or visa versa. Seems years ago there was a way to correct this but I just can't recall it now...just been too long but I'm still noodling it.

[bigbro]

Selecting BEV package removes the 2 from the channel numbers, but does nothing to correct the naming errors. Cannot find any option to go from BEV to Dish epg.

[bigbro]

Did a search on this site and also on the web in general. Cannot seem to find this problem or a solution to this problem. Not a big deal, but it would be nice to correct this. I have some time on my hands and will continue my search.

[runamok]

When you scanned for channels did the correct sat name popup to confirm your scanning sat that you selected?

[bigbro]

When you scanned for channels did the correct sat name popup to confirm your scanning sat that you selected?

Yes, it did. All the channels are the right BEV channels. Just the names are wrong and a lot have the * prior to the name.

[jvvh5897]

From what I can tell from looking inside the FTA code, most coders have a list of names inside the files and the channel ID that the box gets from the stream info gets mapped to that list. One of the coder's jobs was to fix that data as it changed, but the SV boxes have not been supported for years now.
I would say you have to get into the file and switch that data in there so that the data base of the channel list gets mapped right. Or you could dump the channel list to a PC and fix all the names then send that ch list to the box. Six of one and a dozen of the other of which is easier--both just mean that you do a bunch of typing at the PC--maybe download screen shots of the channel lineup from the prov web site.

[bigbro]

From what I can tell from looking inside the FTA code, most coders have a list of names inside the files and the channel ID that the box gets from the stream info gets mapped to that list. One of the coder's jobs was to fix that data as it changed, but the SV boxes have not been supported for years now.
I would say you have to get into the file and switch that data in there so that the data base of the channel list gets mapped right. Or you could dump the channel list to a PC and fix all the names then send that ch list to the box. Six of one and a dozen of the other of which is easier--both just mean that you do a bunch of typing at the PC--maybe download screen shots of the channel lineup from the prov web site.

Thanks for the help. I have a SV 8000 that has a proper channel list. Could I copy this list and transfer it to the SV Premier?

[bigbro]

Well I have decided to slowly go through all the channels, and rename and remove the *, in my spare time . Could take quite a while. Need to get a BEV channel list from their site. Then save the channel list in case I need it in the future.

[jvvh5897]

If I were doing it I would write a little code to parse a list from the web and then into the ch list or file data--that is what computers are for.

[abouttosnap]

In going along with jvvh you could try Channel master and upload your list to the pc via RS232 port...then work on it a little along. After you get it like you want download it back to the stb. I've used it some in the past with my Pansat years ago but not sure or remember how well it works with the sonicview but there is an option to use with sonicview in there. Guess it would be worth a try...been a long while since I used it myself. Link to it here...Channel master (http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php?120173-Channel-Master-Version-1-20-03&p=858730#post858730)

[bigbro]

Help!!! I edited my 360 Premier channel list, with CM. Then I loaded it back into my receiver. It asked to reboot, I clicked ok. Now my receiver does not start up at all. Just (MAIN) on the LED display, but nothing else. Any suggestions on how to get this receiver back up?

[abouttosnap]

Try and turn it off for a little while and then back on...worse case you could always try a file force load...procedures in the stickies. If you force load you will probably have to set things back up in the dish settings and rescan but it should bring the stb back.

[auggie]

Help!!! I edited my 360 Premier channel list, with CM. Then I loaded it back into my receiver. It asked to reboot, I clicked ok. Now my receiver does not start up at all. Just (MAIN) on the LED display, but nothing else. Any suggestions on how to get this receiver back up?

OK, go to SV-360P files section, get SV360P_SysCleanFile, and follow instructions Given.

[bigbro]

OK, go to SV-360P files section, get SV360P_SysCleanFile, and follow instructions Given.

I cannot get to the Menu-Installation.

[auggie]

Then you are going to have to start over from scratch
1. Load Factory file to rec. with PC and loader program (files section)
2. Load SysCleanFile and follow instructions Given.
3. Load Newest Bin file, and then Scan for Channels (everything needed is in Files Section)

[bigbro]

Ok, now I am really screwed. I ran the system clean file then the factory file then the latest rom file and I still get nothing. What am I doing wrong?

[bigbro]

I now have the receiver LED showing A and the TV showing a grey screen with stars.

[auggie]

I suggest you do a force load to receiver, like abouttosnap had mentioned, there is a Sticky on how to do it
and follow instructions, To The Letter. You are going to have to bring your SV-360P BACK TO SQUARE ONE FIRST
And start from there One Step At A Time.
Hope This Help's

[bigbro]

I suggest you do a force load to receiver, like abouttosnap had mentioned, there is a Sticky on how to do it
and follow instructions, To The Letter. You are going to have to bring your SV-360P BACK TO SQUARE ONE FIRST
And start from there One Step At A Time.
Hope This Help's

I have been trying the force loading of all the files. Not sure if I'm doing it right. The instruction are not overly clear. Thanks for the help auggie, I really appreciate it. I will continue to try and get things right. One more thing if you don't mind. Which files do I need to load, the factory file, the sysclean file and then the bin file? In that order?

[auggie]

Are you using a usb stick to load with ? if so, it has to be formatted to fat32 and only the front usb port on receiver
also hook up video connection with rca, RED WHITE (YELLOW) In order to fix this first load Factory 110 (use the panel buttons on receiver) remote will not work yet, and do not reboot, then load syscleanfile, do not reboot, load V0175. tHEN REBOOT AND wait a min. after this when blue screen with stars shows up, you need to do the receiver setup and scan for channels.

[bigbro]

The factory file here is 117, is that ok and what is file V0175?

[abouttosnap]

0175 was the last known standalone file working before iks...117 is an original iHub factory file...it should work. I will say that some of these older files were known to make the screen turn gray and roll after reboot...may have been what you were seeing...sometimes rebooting the receiver will correct that problem and if not reloading of a file will. If you are seeing something on the screen you should be half way there and the stb recoverable.

[bigbro]

0175 was the last known standalone file working before iks...117 is an original iHub factory file...it should work. I will say that some of these older files were known to make the screen turn gray and roll after reboot...may have been what you were seeing...sometimes rebooting the receiver will correct that problem and if not reloading of a file will. If you are seeing something on the screen you should be half way there and the stb recoverable.

I'm back to nothing on screen. Just cannot get anything working. Have tried numerous file variations, without any luck. Going to make another attempt now.

[abouttosnap]

Which way are you trying to load the files?

[bigbro]

Which way are you trying to load the files?

Factory, sysclean and bin rom file with USB force loading.

[abouttosnap]

Try and just load the factory file...once you select ok on the tv screen the file should start to load or count down by blocks...once the file loads you should see good on the display of the receiver...flip the back switch off for about a minute and then back on...it make take a little time for it to boot up but you should see the main menu on the tv afterwards.

[abouttosnap]

Correction it may show USBL on the display once the file loads...been a while since I forced loaded and one way shows USBL and the other shows good on the display.

[bigbro]

Try and just load the factory file...once you select ok on the tv screen the file should start to load or count down by blocks...once the file loads you should see good on the display of the receiver...flip the back switch off for about a minute and then back on...it make take a little time for it to boot up but you should see the main menu on the tv afterwards.

The count down occurs, but does not show GOOD on the display afterwards, shows USBL. Currently have receiver off, will turn back on in a couple of minutes.

[abouttosnap]

I hope it comes back with the factory file and viewable on the tv screen...and if so you can then reload the p2028 file you were using prior to and hopefully be back to where you need to be.

[bigbro]

Success, I now have the main menu. Should I go straight to loading the 2028 rom file now?

Sorry, I guess we were typing at the same time. Will give it a try.

[auggie]

I would setup Sats and scan in first get it the way you want it first
Then do the 2028 rom last

[abouttosnap]

You can give it a go...you can load that one the same way and hopefully you will see adapter connect once the receiver reboots...at least I hope so...you will be a pro with force loading time you are done. :thumbsup:

[bigbro]

I would setup Sats and scan in first get it the way you want it first
Then do the 2028 rom last

Well I loaded the 2028 file before I read your recommendation. Worked ok, but now I have no Signal or Quality on any satellite.

[auggie]

OK, YOUR GETTING there, you will need to go into dish settings and set that up according to the hardware you have
(LNB'S, SWITCHES, ETC.) Once you get it up and running I suggest you save (write it down) as much info as you can
for the setup you have. Good Luck, if i can help i will try.

Auggie

[bigbro]

You can give it a go...you can load that one the same way and hopefully you will see adapter connect once the receiver reboots...at least I hope so...you will be a pro with force loading time you are done. :thumbsup:

Yes, had a real lesson on force loading via USB. Probably forget everything by the time I need to do it again. Tomorrow I will need to check things further as to why I have no quality or signal. Hope I didn't fry the switch.

[bigbro]

OK, YOUR GETTING there, you will need to go into dish settings and set that up according to the hardware you have
(LNB'S, SWITCHES, ETC.) Once you get it up and running I suggest you save (write it down) as much info as you can
for the setup you have. Good Luck, if i can help i will try.

Auggie


Thanks, I'm not sure what happened to the signal. Hope the switch is not fried.

[auggie]

Leave switches out for setup (hook direct) if you can, once your up then add them in later

[lacoster7]

Never , never, never use Channel Master to loads channels to any receiver.
You may brick very easy receiver.
Channel Master is a worst cr&p I ever come across, it is so buggy, that it is beyond any imagination.

It is not even good for its primary goal, converting, sorting channels.

It crash so often, that whatever you do, after each operation u have to save your work. Otherwise, you loose hours of work and have to start from the begining.

[bigbro]

Good to know, thanks.

[bigbro]

Leave switches out for setup (hook direct) if you can, once your up then add them in later

I cannot hook direct, without a lot of rewiring.

[auggie]

Ok then, also if you are using the disq switch that came with the sv360P
they are junk, suggest getting a better quality switch (EMP, CHIETA)

[bigbro]

Ok then, also if you are using the disq switch that came with the sv360P
they are junk, suggest getting a better quality switch (EMP, CHIETA)

I am using a EMP-Centauri. Changed to a different switch, just one of the cheap ones and no difference. Still no signal or quality. I really should not have a switch problem unless shutting the receiver down multiple times affects the switch. Am I missing something? I checked and setup all the dish settings and everything seems to be ok.

[abouttosnap]

I have had to move up in down in the tp list to get the Q&S to pop back up or backing out of the settings menu and back in to get it to pop back up...kinda a glitch with this stb. Did you unhook your RG6? I have unhooked mine and hooked it back up to the loop out by mistake.

[abouttosnap]

Never , never, never use Channel Master to loads channels to any receiver.
You may brick very easy receiver.
Channel Master is a worst cr&p I ever come across, it is so buggy, that it is beyond any imagination.

It is not even good for its primary goal, converting, sorting channels.

It crash so often, that whatever you do, after each operation u have to save your work. Otherwise, you loose hours of work and have to start from the begining.

For my part I hate that the op or in this case bigbro had trouble with it...as I said I've used it in the past with the old Pansat but couldn't remember how well it worked with the sonicview. When you don't mess with these older stb's for a while it is easy to forget somethings and you have to rely on memory...never want to see anyone mess up an stb over any advise I may give or anyone else may give for that matter. I would hope anyone that may read this later on would not attempt to use CM for any of the newer stb's out...last time CM was updated was back in 2008 so any stb after that date would be null and void in the use with CM. I just hope bigbro can get back to where he was prior to.

[bigbro]

For my part I hate that the op or in this case bigbro had trouble with it...as I said I've used it in the past with the old Pansat but couldn't remember how well it worked with the sonicview. When you don't mess with these older stb's for a while it is easy to forget somethings and you have to rely on memory...never want to see anyone mess up an stb over any advise I may give or anyone else may give for that matter. I would hope anyone that may read this later on would not attempt to use CM for any of the newer stb's out...last time CM was updated was back in 2008 so any stb after that date would be null and void in the use with CM. I just hope bigbro can get back to where he was prior to.

I do not blame anyone for this and appreciate anything and everything that members are willing to try and help out with. Just part of the hobby.

[bigbro]

I have had to move up in down in the tp list to get the Q&S to pop back up or backing out of the settings menu and back in to get it to pop back up...kinda a glitch with this stb. Did you unhook your RG6? I have unhooked mine and hooked it back up to the loop out by mistake.

Tried all that, still not getting anything. Never did disconnect the RG6, but tried removing and reattaching just to make sure. There is 0-Q and 0-S on all 3 satellites I am pointed at. My other receiver with the same sats is working fine. Would reloading the files again have any possible benefit?

[abouttosnap]

Probably not...I'm just at a loss why it lost q and s seeing it was fine before.

[bigbro]

Ok, I know your all sick of hearing about my problem. But, I have some further information. I decide to connect my SV8000HD receiver to the lines of the SV360 Premier. I get a slight signal quality on a few stations but no Q or S on most. I did notice all my Servers are showing DNS Fail. I rebooted my Modem/Router and the receiver but nothing changes. It comes up DNS Fail instantaneously. I do get "Network Connected". Can someone make anything of that info? Please lol.

[auggie]

Sonicviews have weak power supply's, and if to many connections (LNB'S,SWITCHES,ETC.) the rec.
can get messed up, That is why i mentioned Hooking up Directly, which in turn would rule out a bad switch.
I am not a expert on this just trying to give some suggestions from pryer experience with the SV360P
which i am using currently.

[abouttosnap]

Sounds like you either have something not set correctly in the dish settings or like auggie said could be a switch gone bad. I know a while back I had a sw21 switch in my setup and I forgot to set it up in the dish settings and it would have me scratching my head to why I wasn't getting the q & s I should be getting until it dawned on me I forgot to setup the switch.

[fn59]

After loading latest file, did you change lnb freq. to 11250?

[bigbro]

After loading latest file, did you change lnb freq. to 11250?

Yes, I did. Thanks.

[bigbro]

Sounds like you either have something not set correctly in the dish settings or like auggie said could be a switch gone bad. I know a while back I had a sw21 switch in my setup and I forgot to set it up in the dish settings and it would have me scratching my head to why I wasn't getting the q & s I should be getting until it dawned on me I forgot to setup the switch.

There are really no switch settings other the the correct port on the diseqc switch. It seems to be that it may come down to the switch. Do not have a reliable replacement at the moment. May try and remove switch from my other setup just to confirm one way or the other.

[auggie]

Did you say that you had another receiver that was hooked up to the same setup (dish, switch, etc.) that was working fine
if so ? I would get ALL THE INFO off the working one, and hook the 360P up to the working side, and input the
Good/working info from the other receiver into it, and See What Happens. If not then like i said before, you need to
hook up Directly (eliminate the Possible/potential problems) We can't really help a whole lot, with out knowing what
equipment/hardware, you are using, how it is setup, etc. We can only offer suggestions based on past experience

[bigbro]

Well I ordered a new switch. Unfortunately it appears as though the receiver is toast. Hooked it up to my other setup and nothing. So I hooked up a brand new SV360 Premier that I had in storage and received a good S and Q reading immediately. Hard to believe it all started with trying to correct channel names and wound up with a fried receiver. That's what happens when I have to much time on my hands (been on holidays for the past 3 weeks). Just want to thank everyone, especially abouttosnap and auggie for their continual help. Unfortunately it was for not, as far as getting my receiver running again. Overall it was fun and informative, though a little frustrating.

[auggie]

Don't give up just yet on the non-working one, if you can get the new one working try one last thing
I SEEM TO REMEMBER that there was a way to clone and or transfer everything from receiver to receiver
(working to non-working one) if that doesn't work, Then I Would Toss It.

Auggie

[bigbro]

Have new one working now. Will see what I can find on cloning.

[auggie]

How to Clone a SonicView to another Sonicview

Have the Master box power "ON" and the Slave box power "OFF" completely
Connect Master & Slave box with Null Modem cable, Using remote control unit pointing at the Master and press
Yellow Button and #4 (#1=Main software, #2=Channel List, #3 Bootloader, #4=ALL)
Now power up the SLAVE BOX by using the rear power switch and you should see it start transferring.
Wait until it finishes and reboots and you're set to go.

[bigbro]

How to Clone a SonicView to another Sonicview

Have the Master box power "ON" and the Slave box power "OFF" completely
Connect Master & Slave box with Null Modem cable, Using remote control unit pointing at the Master and press
Yellow Button and #4 (#1=Main software, #2=Channel List, #3 Bootloader, #4=ALL)
Now power up the SLAVE BOX by using the rear power switch and you should see it start transferring.
Wait until it finishes and reboots and you're set to go.

I cannot get anything to happen. I am just changing the channel on the first receiver. Do I need to hold the yellow and #4 buttons while I turn on the second receiver? I have tried that.

[auggie]

It's been awhile since I've did it, but i believe just receiver to rec. no tv hook up
Master Box over to Slave Box, Null cable connection nothing else, Hold Yellow and #4 buttons while you turn on the second receiver, and watch the front panels of receivers for any action, info from Good Box should transfer over to the other one
If nothing happens then i would say the one receiver is TOAST

[bigbro]

It's been awhile since I've did it, but i believe just receiver to rec. no tv hook up
Master Box over to Slave Box, Null cable connection nothing else, Hold Yellow and #4 buttons while you turn on the second receiver, and watch the front panels of receivers for any action, info from Good Box should transfer over to the other one
If nothing happens then i would say the one receiver is TOAST

I'm just trying to confirm I am using a null modem cable. As luck would have it my multimeter is not working (battery leak).

[bigbro]

Using a different cable that I would believe is a null cable, found it in my SV360 Premier bag. Still cannot get any action from either receiver.

[bigbro]

Have confirmed that I am using a null cable. Still cannot get it to work. I believe I am doing something wrong, but have done a search here and on the web and I cannot find any different instructions than what auggie provided. Not sure when to release the buttons and what indications are that show it is working.