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The Cobra
03-15-2015, 11:08 PM
Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao Purse Exceeds NFL Team Salary Cap


March 13th, 2015




By Ivan G. Goldman
The welterweight showdown between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather was like a property on Park Avenue that the owners held on to for years. Finally, with its value bid up to astronomical heights, they’re cashing in.
How much is the fight worth now? A hint came this week in the spectacle’s only pre-fight press conference, when at the very end of the program Leonard Ellerbe, who runs Mayweather Promotions, casually announced in Los Angeles that seat prices for the May 2 card in the MGM Grand will be listed from $1,500 to $7,500. The official sale date hasn’t even been announced, but on the resale market – already going great guns — there was nothing available for less than $4,100, reported financial site Forbes.com. But today the lowest-priced seat available was $5,400. Tickets are trading like porkbellies, and at record prices. A floor ticket, said Forbes, was selling for $33,000.
http://pull01.boxinginsider.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/manny-floyd-015-300x220.jpg?7dde34 The only comparable event Forbes could cite was this year’s Super Bowl between the Seahawks and Patriots, where “get-in” prices – presumably standing room — were close to $5,000.
In the MGM Grand, I don’t recall those “cheap” $1,500 seats ever selling for more than $300 at face value. Often they went for $50 to $100. With Inflation at less than 2 percent, these fight tickets have jumped by a margin of 400 to 3000 percent.
The fevered bidding reminds old hands of the Fight of the Century between undefeated heavyweights Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier in 1971 in Madison Square Garden, Not even Frank Sinatra could lay his hands on a ringside seat. Finally he made a deal to work as a photographer for Life magazine.
Movie star Burt Lancaster, though totally inexperienced as a fight commentator, used his pull to work the closed-circuit telecast as an analyst just so he could get close to the action. It was of course a sellout, 20,455 seats sold.
The MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas holds about 16,800 for boxing. One of the big differences between the original Fight of the Century and this one is the updated technology that enables virtually an unlimited number of fans to see it electronically.
There was no pay-per-view in 1971, and as promoter Bob Arum recalled Wednesday, the telephone company couldn’t feed more than 400 closed-circuit screens simultaneously. Consequently, those seats became a hot item as well.
Pay-per-views for May 2, being presented by HBO and Showtime jointly, probably won’t rise more than 33.3 percent – from a fairly standard $75 for the biggest cards to approximately $100 to get this one in high-def. But that’s just a guess. The figure is never really announced. You have to sift through the promotional materials to find it, and it’s generally not sprung on you until the moment of purchase.
As for the fight tickets, they, like basically all tickets to events with great demand, have an inexorable way of bleeding away before the public sale, leaving very few available through that channel, and those are snatched in seconds. There may be a few hundred left on sale day, and they’ll be available only for propriety’s sake, so no one can complain that the sale was 100 percent bogus. If 200 are offered out of 16,800 it will be only 98.8 percent bogus.
If you’re some kind of clerk, computer drudge, or have some other way to secure access beforehand, you need only get in there first and pay the stated price, then turn around and sell them on the secondary market at an inflated number.
Tickets are also carefully distributed to sponsors, the casino, network executives, the promoters, and the fight teams. Some of these seats will be used by their intended recipients. Others will end up in the marketplace.
Arum refused to estimate the number of pay-per-views, but 3 million seems like a reasonable number, representing roughly $300 million. Add $50 million for the record gate. Plus there are sponsorships and foreign broadcast rights. This fight will easily break all financial records, every one.
Mayweather, who apparently gets 60 percent of the purse money, could very well walk away with $140 million to add to the $400 million he’s already earned from his fights. If we figure the total purse money at $240 million and want to put that in perspective, then note that the NFL team salary cap for 2015 comes in at about $150 million for 53 players.
The biggest payroll in major league baseball is the $197.5 million the Los Angeles Dodgers owners will shell out in 2015, plus perhaps $20 million in bonuses for its 40-man roster. The Dodgers allocate ten times the aggregate salaries of the Houston Astros at the bottom of the scale.
All this May 2 money creates interesting phenomena. Congressman Pacquiao is already known as a soft touch in the Philippines, personally funding hospitals, schools, individuals in need and others who just have good sob stories. So if he makes, say, $96 million in purse money, most of it coming from U.S. fans, he’s acting as a kind of foreign aid agency that redistributes funds from the world’s wealthiest nation to his home country, as is his prerogative. After all, he’ll face a 39.6 percent income tax from Uncle Sam for money earned in Nevada (which has no state income tax).
Also, Mayweather, who can’t earn serious endorsement money because of his guilty pleas for assaulting women, gets it through the back door with advertising sponsorships. Auto and beer companies that fear boycotts if they seek his product endorsement have learned that they can attach their names to his fights without fear. Boycott forces haven’t figured that one out.
It is possible this fight can be worth all this money? It can be difficult to place a value on an experience, which isn’t a tangible item like those beers and cars.
You didn’t hear many complaints after Ali-Frazier at the Garden. It was a great 15-round fight that Frazier won fair and square. If we see a great card with a great main event May 2, it will be up to each individual to decide if the money to see it was well spent.

The Cobra
03-15-2015, 11:09 PM
Better be a damn good card.........

aquariusone
03-16-2015, 02:33 AM
Better be a damn good card.........

Is this good enough?

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/royal-straight-flush-marvin-blatt.jpg

Fibroso
03-16-2015, 11:44 AM
Better be a damn good card.........

Yes it will be, PBF is going to KO Manny in 10 rounds!!!

Condor
03-16-2015, 02:48 PM
Better be a damn good card.........

Yeah who else if fighting... As yes the fight will go on but only with the "undercard"....Beheheheheeeeee

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w8/condorito2/Pacman/run%20floyd_zpsaflaccib.jpg

steven charles
03-16-2015, 08:36 PM
man if I was a promoter I wouldn,t pay this guys more then 30 million and 15 million each,this guys just won the lotto with this pay day,they better put a good fight for all this money,but I think its going to be a let down....

The Cobra
03-16-2015, 08:43 PM
man if I was a promoter I wouldn,t pay this guys more then 30 million and 15 million each,this guys just won the lotto with this pay day,they better put a good fight for all this money,but I think its going to be a let down....

Once the rights are sold, the seats sold, the PPV sold etc these guys won`t care if they come out as ballerinas and tip toe around the ring blowing kisses for 12 rnds. It`s all about the money........everything else is mouth service or they would have fought years ago.

The Cobra
03-16-2015, 08:59 PM
Is this good enough?

http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large/royal-straight-flush-marvin-blatt.jpg

Only if they let me drag it to the tables cause this fight is gonna be closer to .......

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608000737769818022&pid=15.1&P=0

aquariusone
03-17-2015, 01:25 AM
man if I was a promoter I wouldn,t pay this guys more then 30 million and 15 million each,this guys just won the lotto with this pay day,they better put a good fight for all this money,but I think its going to be a let down....

How many boxers in your stable, Steven?
Well.....see...... that is why you can't compete with Arum or Haymon! Hehehehe! You cheap! LOL!

aquariusone
03-17-2015, 01:54 AM
Only if they let me drag it to the tables cause this fight is gonna be closer to .......

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608000737769818022&pid=15.1&P=0

Aha! here we go again...... a skirmish with my friend!

I will guarantee you one thing....and perhaps a few people would be raising their eyebrows...
..and smirking...

Pacquiao's success has never gone into and over his head. He remains humble and most of all very charitable and committed to being a role model to his country's youth and to many other poor countries' youths. And while he has the good fortune to be where he is in his life and career today and soon to be in a rare and distinct sport pedestal shared only with Mayweather, he did not sell his soul to the devil.

I think I can safely say that he holds sacred the integrity of his career and I firmly stand on the conviction that he takes "very seriously" his commitment to his people and to all his followers that "they all want to see a good fight".

Therefore, in my humble opinion, with every single sweat in his body, and with every single flex of his muscles, and every single step in the ring, that he will carry this into the battle...just as he did with every single one of his 64 fights - win or lose.

It will be the mark and legacy he will leave behind. If it becomes a "yawner" like you think it might be, no one will ever point a finger at Pacquiao. He is bringing into this fight everything he's got. He will be ferocious.

But will Mayweather bring his?

The Cobra
03-17-2015, 02:13 AM
Our Skirmish" may be better than theirs LOL......I have no doubt they will bring everything they have with every bit of pride etc etc they have...........My concern is that they don`t have so much anymore that a fight of this said mega event and money event commands. In their prime I would have said yes............they let it go by, not roids, not Arum, not chicken not anything but them. could you see a Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Leonard et all playing the games these guys have??? NO...they would have fought... why?...because they were fighters... not talented guys that fought...fighters.

steven charles
03-17-2015, 02:40 AM
How many boxers in your stable, Steven?
Well.....see...... that is why you can't compete with Arum or Haymon! Hehehehe! You cheap! LOL!the old days like the fights like Julio cesar Chavez and sugar ray leonard and tommy hearns,pepino cuevas this were fighters at this age you can,t compare anyone to them and they should of been making this kind of money not this guys,lol,,

aquariusone
03-17-2015, 05:17 AM
I share your sentiments about the Hagler, Leonard, Armstrong, Sugar Ray, and Duran days. I am with you all the way....but....neither You, me, nor anybody else can bring back those days. They are gone! Gone forever. Just like the Edsel; or the Atari; or the humongous magnetic reel storage.

Now are the days of flash drives, and open source codes. The point is as sentimental as you all want to be, the face of Boxing has evolved to what it is now...competing with the super bowl, UFC, and the World Cup.

Boxing is no longer a battle of pride; it is entertainment. And the Impresarios rule: Hayman, Dela Hoya, Arum, Espinosa, to name a few. They run the show. They drive the PPV machine. They are the marketers of products like Golovkin, Kovalev, Gonzales, and many others.

So, just because the commodity of the PACQUIAO and MAYWEAHTER product has hit the roof does not make either of them the villains or enemies of boxing. To blame them for this is like blaming Steve Jobs for your iPad replacing your turntable or Grundig radio. They are merely a by-product of the evolution of the Boxing enterprise.

And this is not happening only in America. It is happening all over the world. Look at how Russian or Chinese boxers are being "built" up!

So let's stop hyping the "they cudda, shudda...fought...6 years ago..pure wishful thinking scenario". It did not happen then....but it is happening now. Besides, at 36 and 38, I bet they could wop you and drop you within 1 round! Give them a bit more credit, will ya?

steven charles
03-17-2015, 09:03 AM
I share your sentiments about the Hagler, Leonard, Armstrong, Sugar Ray, and Duran days. I am with you all the way....but....neither You, me, nor anybody else can bring back those days. They are gone! Gone forever. Just like the Edsel; or the Atari; or the humongous magnetic reel storage.

Now are the days of flash drives, and open source codes. The point is as sentimental as you all want to be, the face of Boxing has evolved to what it is now...competing with the super bowl, UFC, and the World Cup.

Boxing is no longer a battle of pride; it is entertainment. And the Impresarios rule: Hayman, Dela Hoya, Arum, Espinosa, to name a few. They run the show. They drive the PPV machine. They are the marketers of products like Golovkin, Kovalev, Gonzales, and many others.

So, just because the commodity of the PACQUIAO and MAYWEAHTER product has hit the roof does not make either of them the villains or enemies of boxing. To blame them for this is like blaming Steve Jobs for your iPad replacing your turntable or Grundig radio. They are merely a by-product of the evolution of the Boxing enterprise.

And this is not happening only in America. It is happening all over the world. Look at how Russian or Chinese boxers are being "built" up!

So let's stop hyping the "they cudda, shudda...fought...6 years ago..pure wishful thinking scenario". It did not happen then....but it is happening now. Besides, at 36 and 38, I bet they could wop you and drop you within 1 round! Give them a bit more credit, will ya?friend I don,t take anything away from no one,just saying there not worth the money there getting paid what I,m saying its that mayweather its making like 15 millions a round,thats crazy who ever its paying them that,i,m hoping I,m wrong but this fight will be the worst one they ever fought,because there in it for the money not to see whos better,you tell me after the fight if I was wrong or not....

The Cobra
03-17-2015, 01:14 PM
I share your sentiments about the Hagler, Leonard, Armstrong, Sugar Ray, and Duran days. I am with you all the way....but....neither You, me, nor anybody else can bring back those days. They are gone! Gone forever. Just like the Edsel; or the Atari; or the humongous magnetic reel storage.

Now are the days of flash drives, and open source codes. The point is as sentimental as you all want to be, the face of Boxing has evolved to what it is now...competing with the super bowl, UFC, and the World Cup.

Boxing is no longer a battle of pride; it is entertainment. And the Impresarios rule: Hayman, Dela Hoya, Arum, Espinosa, to name a few. They run the show. They drive the PPV machine. They are the marketers of products like Golovkin, Kovalev, Gonzales, and many others.

So, just because the commodity of the PACQUIAO and MAYWEAHTER product has hit the roof does not make either of them the villains or enemies of boxing. To blame them for this is like blaming Steve Jobs for your iPad replacing your turntable or Grundig radio. They are merely a by-product of the evolution of the Boxing enterprise.

And this is not happening only in America. It is happening all over the world. Look at how Russian or Chinese boxers are being "built" up!

So let's stop hyping the "they cudda, shudda...fought...6 years ago..pure wishful thinking scenario". It did not happen then....but it is happening now. Besides, at 36 and 38, I bet they could wop you and drop you within 1 round! Give them a bit more credit, will ya?


"Boxing is no longer a battle of pride; it is entertainment."...........and there is the problem...and once again we agree. Not taking anything away from either of them that they will fight to the best of their abilities, dwindling as they may be. "Woulda shoulda coulda" is their epitaph and like it or not it will follow them both the second this event is over. Once agian I`ll agree with aqua, this "fight" is a "commodity" rather than a classic fight and no it`s not their fault that they each have massive dedicated fan bases that they both have earned that will transfer to the box office. What is their fault is that they alone decided not to fight each other when it was most beneficial to their sport and their fans....they sold the "commodity".....not a fight of 2 greats in their prime.

The Cobra
03-17-2015, 01:35 PM
BTW....." Besides, at 36 and 38, I bet they could wop you and drop you within 1 round!".....as I`m in my 60`s I sure hope so....or maybe they`d want to wait until it became a "commodity".......LMAO

TLG
03-17-2015, 02:02 PM
I think there's something that's being over looked ...
had this fight happened 3 - 4 or even 2 years ago
the purse would have been the same,, ??
Interest in this fight hasn't changed , it was destined
to be the biggest purse in history from the get go ..
so what's the dig dealio??

in the words of the great philosopher James Franco .... "don't hatem cause you aintem" .. LOL

I'll tell you what's the greatest tragedy about this fight ?!

The greatest tragedy about this fight is .... that it's NOT ME in the ring making 120 million
I blame my parents ,, they should have sent me to boxing school ... :noidea: LOL

Take it easy boys ,,, your in for a GREAT NIGHT of boxing
This is what we've been waiting for ,, sit back and enjoy

aquariusone
03-17-2015, 02:48 PM
BTW....." Besides, at 36 and 38, I bet they could wop you and drop you within 1 round!".....as I`m in my 60`s I sure hope so....or maybe they`d want to wait until it became a "commodity".......LMAO

Aha.... you are a young rooster compared to me, my son!


I think there's something that's being over looked ...
had this fight happened 3 - 4 or even 2 years ago
the purse would have been the same,, ??
Interest in this fight hasn't changed , it was destined
to be the biggest purse in history from the get go ..
so what's the dig dealio??

Darn right here, Monsieur TLG!

in the words of the great philosopher James Franco .... "don't hatem cause you aintem" .. LOL

Now, isn't that the truth?

I'll tell you what's the greatest tragedy about this fight ?!

The greatest tragedy about this fight is .... that it's NOT ME in the ring making 120 million
I blame my parents ,, they should have sent me to boxing school ... :noidea: LOL

Take it easy boys ,,, your in for a GREAT NIGHT of boxing
This is what we've been waiting for ,, sit back and enjoy

Now I can tell that you are wiser than Jacques Parizeau!

The Cobra
03-17-2015, 03:00 PM
Aha.... you are a young rooster compared to me, my son!



Now I can tell that you are wiser than Jacques Parizeau!

I`ve still got a couple of "rooster" days left....but they`re even fading fast LOL

The Cobra
03-17-2015, 03:01 PM
I think there's something that's being over looked ...
had this fight happened 3 - 4 or even 2 years ago
the purse would have been the same,, ??
Interest in this fight hasn't changed , it was destined
to be the biggest purse in history from the get go ..
so what's the dig dealio??

in the words of the great philosopher James Franco .... "don't hatem cause you aintem" .. LOL

I'll tell you what's the greatest tragedy about this fight ?!

The greatest tragedy about this fight is .... that it's NOT ME in the ring making 120 million
I blame my parents ,, they should have sent me to boxing school ... :noidea: LOL

Take it easy boys ,,, your in for a GREAT NIGHT of boxing
This is what we've been waiting for ,, sit back and enjoy

Yup.......my parents are also at fault....for just about everything. LMAO.........just like my kids figure.

aquariusone
03-17-2015, 03:04 PM
I`ve still got a couple of "rooster" days left....but they`re even fading fast LOL

Call Memo Heredia. He might assist in "propping up your once mighty reputation" that seldom stands!

The Cobra
03-17-2015, 03:08 PM
Call Memo Heredia. He might assist in "propping up your once mighty reputation" that seldom stands!

I said "fading" not "faded".........the little soldier thankfully still salutes on command. ............so far. LMAO

TLG
03-17-2015, 03:16 PM
Call Memo Heredia. He might assist in "propping up your once mighty reputation" that seldom stands!

so how did it work out for you ??

The Cobra
03-17-2015, 03:24 PM
so how did it work out for you ??

Ouch..............

TLG
03-17-2015, 03:32 PM
LOLOLOLOL ,, You know I'm laughing with my buddys .... never at them

The Cobra
03-17-2015, 04:19 PM
LOLOLOLOL ,, You know I'm laughing with my buddys .... never at them

Right on bud.................I`ve always said "if you can`t laugh at yourself you`ve got no business laughing at anyone else"

aquariusone
03-17-2015, 09:12 PM
so how did it work out for you ??

You have to know I've got a contract that stipulates I must submit to random VADA testing. Hence I am staying away from Heredia and Ariza. Besides my doc, who is a sweet gorgeous blond tells me to be careful where I aim my smoking gun! LOL

The Cobra
03-17-2015, 09:22 PM
You have to know I've got a contract that stipulates I must submit to random VADA testing. Hence I am staying away from Heredia and Ariza. Besides my doc, who is a sweet gorgeous blond tells me to be careful where I aim my smoking gun! LOL

send that pretty little blonde doc here....I still got pretty good aim.

aquariusone
03-17-2015, 09:34 PM
send that pretty little blonde doc here....I still got pretty good aim.

Not kidding about my pretty doc. She could get Mr. Hepner scrambling to get her on the cover of his magazine. So now you I am well looked after. Just realized we have deviated so far from our subject. Hehehe!

The Cobra
03-17-2015, 11:23 PM
Not kidding about my pretty doc. She could get Mr. Hepner scrambling to get her on the cover of his magazine. So now you I am well looked after. Just realized we have deviated so far from our subject. Hehehe!


Us get off topic???who would have believed it LOL.

PBF wins a 12 rnd decision ......there you go pal, feel better? LOL

aquariusone
03-18-2015, 12:57 AM
Us get off topic???who would have believed it LOL.

PBF wins a 12 rnd decision ......there you go pal, feel better? LOL

Well, you are not way off base! There are two strong predictions: Decision in favour of the Money Man and KO by Pac! Actually, checking all the sites, the 2nd prediction is much higher than the first. KO by Mayweather is a very distant chance - less than 5%.

Fibroso
03-18-2015, 11:25 AM
Well, you are not way off base! There are two strong predictions: Decision in favour of the Money Man and KO by Pac! Actually, checking all the sites, the 2nd prediction is much higher than the first. KO by Mayweather is a very distant chance - less than 5%.
Exactly, that is the money making prediction.
5%, of us will get rich in Vegas, and
what's done in Vegas stays in Vegas
The Money Team is watching the film
Yes the one that stunned the world.
A replay wil just make history.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYwmDvDajlc