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zombola
05-03-2015, 03:12 PM
LAS VEGAS | By Steve Keating
http://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20150503&t=2&i=1045323927&w=&fh=&fw=&ll=644&pl=429&r=LYNXMPEB4204Q
A fan of boxing icon Manny Pacquiao reacts after Floyd Mayweather Jr. was announced winner in the boxing bout at a public park in Marikina city, Philippines May 3, 2015.
Reuters/Erik De Castro




(Reuters) - Floyd Mayweather Jr cemented his place among the pantheon of boxing greats by improving to 48-0 with a unanimous decision over Manny Pacquiao on Saturday in a fight that lived up to its immense hype and price tag.
Mayweather weathered an early assault from the Filipino southpaw before winning the later rounds using his reach and jab to finish ahead on all three scorecards in a welterweight showdown set to be the top grossing prize fight of all-time.
"When the history books are written, it was worth the wait," Mayweather said in the ring after a four-belt unification bout that was more than five years in the making.
Though Pacquiao repeatedly forced Mayweather to backpedal, the wily American blunted his opponent's best efforts by using his renowned defensive skills while getting in several telling jabs and punches of his own.

Mayweather and Pacquiao had promised to deliver on years of hype and give fans their money's worth and were true to their word in delivering an entertaining contest that had the capacity crowd on its feet roaring from the opening bell to the end of the 12 round showcase.
"Manny Pacquiao is a hell of fighter, I see now why he is at the pinnacle of boxing," the 38-year-old Mayweather said after an emotional embrace with Pacquiao. "I'm a smart fighter, I outboxed him.
"We knew what we had to do. He's a tough competitor... a very awkward fighter and I had to take my time and watch him closely."
The fight between the two greatest boxers of their generation was one that appeared might never happen as Pacquiao resisted Mayweather's demands for blood-testing for five years.

rudee
05-03-2015, 04:37 PM
Floyd will no doubt break Rocky's 48-0 record....
But he ain't no Rocky Marciano!!!!!

The Cobra
05-03-2015, 06:41 PM
I`ve had prom dates that put up a better fight than Pacquiao.

KIDWCKED
05-03-2015, 07:07 PM
I`ve had prom dates that put up a better fight than Pacquiao.

lol..too true!..he (pac) sucked...whole fight kinda sucked for the money they made!..uggggg...pac needs to retire..the second undercard with leo santa cruz was awsome...always an exciting fighter..nice too see him move up in wieght...

The Cobra
05-03-2015, 07:40 PM
Floyd will no doubt break Rocky's 48-0 record....
But he ain't no Rocky Marciano!!!!!

Yup...putting PBF`s name anywhere close together with that of the Rock would be an insult.

KIDWCKED
05-03-2015, 07:55 PM
Yup...putting PBF`s name anywhere close together with that of the Rock would be an insult.

yep.....;)

TLG
05-03-2015, 08:04 PM
I disagree, my brotha from anotha motha,,, Floyd deserves to be in the book of the greats ,,, why wouldn't he???
Rocky Marciano fought fighters of his and their time ,,,, and beat each and everyone of them.

Floyd fought every fighter of his time and beat them all ,,, Pacquiao fought all the fighters of his time and beat them all too
then Floyd beat him ,,,, and that's what it takes to make it to the book of greats...

Like him or not ,,, like his success or not, he is one of the greatest of all time.

Fibroso
05-03-2015, 08:16 PM
Floyd will no doubt break Rocky's 48-0 record....
But he ain't no Rocky Marciano!!!!!
Sure Bud, Floyd is black, from the ghetto, not backed up by La Cosa Nostra.

Yup...putting PBF`s name anywhere close together with that of the Rock would be an insult.

No matter what his name must be up there with the best, no one has beaten him, he's for real in this generation.
Pac was about to go down in the 10th and 11th, only JMM could done better.

The Cobra
05-03-2015, 09:07 PM
Sure Bud, Floyd is black, from the ghetto, not backed up by La Cosa Nostra.


No matter what his name must be up there with the best, no one has beaten him, he's for real in this generation.
Pac was about to go down in the 10th and 11th, only JMM could done better.


The meaning was not to criticize PBF in any way......different eras, different weights, different opponents and different styles make it impossible to compare anyone of different eras to todays fighters. PBF most assuredly belongs at the top of his class but any comparison lacks validity as would Marciano and Ali. Being black, coming from a ghetto and backed by whoever have nothing to do with it.

Fibroso
05-03-2015, 09:18 PM
The meaning was not to criticize PBF in any way......different eras, different weights, different opponents and different styles make it impossible to compare anyone of different eras to todays fighters. PBF most assuredly belongs at the top of his class but any comparison lacks validity as would Marciano and Ali. Being black, coming from a ghetto and backed by whoever have nothing to do with it.
Yes it does my dear friend, God knows how many of those guys that fought Marciano were told to take a dive or else! Come on Bud, you know more than that. In those time you'll listen or you'll end up in the east river. I'm 67 years young. tell me about the Big Aple, Chicago or else. During Aly the movement was different.

The Cobra
05-03-2015, 11:00 PM
I`m only a couple years behind you amigo.............how many were told to dive we`ll never know...why ? because they ended up in the East River anyway so they wouldn`t talk.LOL.............the movement changed with the loss of Liston to Ali when many "fighters" became "boxers" and then fans and money generated off their showmanship started to climb.

Fibroso
05-03-2015, 11:34 PM
Sonny was part of the clan, he worked for them. Say I wonder what happened to aqua, Condor and Rokko we done lost Bonzo. i hope they come back soon. One thing I'm expecting is a espn type of report from our dear friend aqua, I know he's working on it. probably correcting misspelled words and weer thoughts before coming in to post.

The Cobra
05-04-2015, 12:11 AM
Sonny was part of the clan, he worked for them. Say I wonder what happened to aqua, Condor and Rokko we done lost Bonzo. i hope they come back soon. One thing I'm expecting is a espn type of report from our dear friend aqua, I know he's working on it. probably correcting misspelled words and weer thoughts before coming in to post.


Yeah, Liston was pretty much the last of the cigar in the closed room boys and that brought a little more legitimacy to boxing and allowed some more needed attention to the other greats in different weight classes that had not gotten much recognition to that point.
Aqua and the boys just off licking their wounds probably......I`ve been on the losing end so I don`t poke at anyone....well, not too much LMAO.
I saw a blip real short on the news about Pac hurting his arm or something in training but i haven`t heard anymore about it. I`ve got a little more respect for him than that so i hope he`s not making excuses....although I doubt he would.

Fibroso
05-04-2015, 12:36 AM
Yeah, Liston was pretty much the last of the cigar in the closed room boys and that brought a little more legitimacy to boxing and allowed some more needed attention to the other greats in different weight classes that had not gotten much recognition to that point.
Aqua and the boys just off licking their wounds probably......I`ve been on the losing end so I don`t poke at anyone....well, not too much LMAO.
I saw a blip real short on the news about Pac hurting his arm or something in training but i haven`t heard anymore about it. I`ve got a little more respect for him than that so i hope he`s not making excuses....although I doubt he would.
I started some chit here....

http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php?180884-Manny-Pacquiao-fought-with-injured-right-shoulder-denied-shot-in-locker-room

The Cobra
05-04-2015, 12:40 AM
I started some chit here....

http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php?180884-Manny-Pacquiao-fought-with-injured-right-shoulder-denied-shot-in-locker-room

Yup, just saw it....between periods of the hockey game LOL

Fibroso
05-04-2015, 01:15 PM
all night long


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TLG
05-04-2015, 01:59 PM
There was a point in the fight in and around the 6th round
when Floyd backed up against the ropes and let Manny throw
a flurry to the body before he swatted him to the side and
continued with the fight ,,, it was at this point that I thought
the fight was over ,,, for me it was clear Floyd tested Manny's
punching power and from that point forward Floyd knew he
couldn't get hurt. After that in and around the 10 round Floyd
let him in again only to shake him off ,, pretty much telling him
he didn't have it and he couldn't hurt him ...

These are two different conditioned athletes ,, WAY DIFFERENT ..
as rudee mentioned these two could meet again 10 times and in
all 10 times, the fight outcome wouldn't be different.

I was impressed by Floyd before this fight and now I am in awe of his
work ethic , his involvement and dedication. He should serve as an
example and an inspiration to young and upcoming boxers that if you
want to succeed and be a boxing champion you need to follow his work
ethic example.

In the words of Apollo Creed "there is no tomorrow"

Highwayman
05-04-2015, 01:59 PM
all night long


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Trouble is that punch and all the others couldnt have ko`ed an ol lady!Not much of a legacy
being booed in your own backyard either yup he won the fight no doubt but there will always be that ? what if?
As for the "record" Rocky was not a boxer/promoter for me pbf`s record means nothing.Trouble with boxing some say
Mayweather is the number one problem the sooner hes gone the better.

Condor
05-04-2015, 02:19 PM
I`ve had prom dates that put up a better fight than Pacquiao.

I totally agree... Mayweather made him look old.. His strategy worked.. Holding, more holding running and of course punching and not letting the opponent get off.. (Pacman) .. I had a totally different vision.. More of the same as above for Mayweather but Manny throwing punches.. If you don't throw u don't win.. As my Paisano Rudee says.....He aint no Rocky..

rudee
05-04-2015, 03:34 PM
I pretty much agree with my amigos Highwayman and Condor...
You CAN compare fighters from yesteryear and now.... its not like tennis or golf...
with different racquets and clubs..
Boxing has remained the same.... two gladiators in the ring with the same boxing gloves..
Nothing INSIDE the ring has changed.... you go in and try to knock the other guy out.
I think Floyd is excellent... however i do not recall an undefeated,, or a champ for that matter
being booed as lustily as Floyd has been in his last 3 fights.
ABC said it was the "flop of the century and luckily we have 85 more years to make up for it"
Floyd is a defensive fighter...he is excellent.. not very exciting.. will make the Hall of Fame.
However,,, he would have a tough time making rudee's top 10 of all time.
And I have seen them all from 1950 on... many in person.
Of course this is just an old guy's opinion.
Rest in peace Gene Fullmer!!! You always put on a show!!! You and Carmen!

TLG
05-04-2015, 04:24 PM
aaaah but there is a difference ,,, as in the golf club and the raquette
where new technologies in aerodynamics and material in the golf club
allow the ball to travel 10 - 15 extra yards ,, or the new string material
in the raquette allow for quicker travel of the ball with less effort.

New understanding in nutrition sciences with supplementation and the
understanding of micro-nutrients and their effect on body recovery ,,
coupled with other discoveries like Cryogenics and Hypobaric chambers
all result in creating super athletes ,, which result in the 10 - 15 percent
advantage ,,,

we could absolutely NOT compare athletes of yester-year with todays
performers..

TLG
05-04-2015, 04:44 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/21/12/27CE442200000578-0-image-a-27_1429615138690.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/04/20/14/27C8749300000578-0-image-a-14_1429536491477.jpg

when comparing todays athlete

Preparing the body for a pounding

Condor
05-04-2015, 08:03 PM
aaaah but there is a difference ,,, as in the golf club and the raquette
where new technologies in aerodynamics and material in the golf club
allow the ball to travel 10 - 15 extra yards ,, or the new string material
in the raquette allow for quicker travel of the ball with less effort.

New understanding in nutrition sciences with supplementation and the
understanding of micro-nutrients and their effect on body recovery ,,
coupled with other discoveries like Cryogenics and Hypobaric chambers
all result in creating super athletes ,, which result in the 10 - 15 percent
advantage ,,,

we could absolutely NOT compare athletes of yester-year with todays
performers..

I totally disagree my friend... If you would have put Leonard, Hearns, Duran up against any of these so called Welterweight Champions of today they would have destroyed them...Those fighters had heart which is lacking now a days... Now all that counts is money... But that is ...JMO..

Fibroso
05-04-2015, 09:01 PM
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Fibroso
05-04-2015, 09:06 PM
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monchino
05-04-2015, 09:42 PM
my 2 cents,i said may will win , why because he is better boxer. I recall when I was in the army 1973 Germany we were waiting order to go to viet our hobby the gin and box , I figth guy's black, white and mex and this guy from mex wait for me every day at 4:30 pm so he can box with me I bet the **** out of him all the time but he came back every day his skill was awfull but he never said no, my friend Garcia was defeated by him every day but he always want me , after a couple of months he was luck he went to viet, mex vs pr no best rivalry

rudee
05-05-2015, 01:28 AM
Meldrick Taylor vs Julio Caesar Chavez comes to mind with
what you posted amigo Condor....
There was a fight... same ring, same gloves, just different money and
different desire... and bigger cojones!

Condor
05-05-2015, 03:15 AM
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I will take my lumps Fib... Keep'em coming...lol