OTA Western NY/Ontario Peninsula

[Night Prowler]

Seem to have lost the WNYO (49.2) and WUTV (29.2) SD channels......anyone else?

[dishuser]

Seem to have lost the WNYO (49.2) and WUTV (29.2) SD channels......anyone else?

yup
noticed that other day
still have 29.1

[Night Prowler]

yup
noticed that other day
still have 29.1

can't find anything on the net about it...:noidea:

[dishuser]

can't find anything on the net about it...:noidea:

I'd go look but I'm not giving up my spot at JA's bedroom window :innocent:

[mikeydxer]

Don't have them here 20 miles east of Buffalo either.....must be doing something...but they are different networks...Hmmmmmmm:no:

[Night Prowler]

I'd go look but I'm not giving up my spot at JA's bedroom window :innocent:

jack of all trades......peeping tom included....:tehe:

Do you wear a mask too......:lol:

[dishuser]

jack of all trades......peeping tom included....:tehe:

Do you wear a mask too......:lol:

nope
just a silly grin :grr:

[Night Prowler]

nope
just a silly grin :grr:

I was wondering why I had to always hide underneath the bed......:tehe:

[Just_angel]

lol peeking in my window ?

hiding under the bed? Dishuser get down off the latter before You fall

NP get out from under the bed before the lil angel finds You hiding again


:yes::yes:

[dumb as a stump]

I dont even get 29-2 in niagara on the lake never have with a 29 ft tower preamp and distro amp . Oh well I guess I'm not special enough. I think Ill go cry now <G>.

[Night Prowler]

I dont even get 29-2 in niagara on the lake never have with a 29 ft tower preamp and distro amp . Oh well I guess I'm not special enough. I think Ill go cry now <G>.

:stop:.....no need to cry.....nobody gets it now......:tehe:

[JCO]

lol peeking in my window ?

hiding under the bed? Dishuser get down off the latter before You fall

NP get out from under the bed before the lil angel finds You hiding again


:yes::yes:

Angel dont you just hate those shy types that dont have the courage to court you face to face...LOL

[Night Prowler]

well.....finally made a decision to get a rotor.......EagleAspen ROTR100........cheaper and cleaner looking than stacking another antenna since the major channels available to me from the CN tower and Buffalo are 180 degrees from each other and lamost the same distance......:D

http://www.eagleaspen.com/products/products_2.php?lb_id=&id=90

[dishuser]

well.....finally made a decision to get a rotor.......EagleAspen ROTR100........cheaper and cleaner looking than stacking another antenna since the major channels available to me from the CN tower and Buffalo are 180 degrees from each other and lamost the same distance......:D

http://www.eagleaspen.com/products/products_2.php?lb_id=&id=90

good luck with cn tower
all but cbc point north:innocent:

[Night Prowler]

good luck with cn tower
all but cbc point north:innocent:

just my base point to help capture the one's south and on the few on the side......:D

[Night Prowler]

here's a good tv listing guide and schedule.......getting most of them......when the atmosheric conditions are perfect........love the bounce.....:lol:

http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCGrid.do?aid=zap2it

[Night Prowler]

woohoo....got my Eagle Aspen ROTR100 today.........might have to work on it tonight after work.....lmao

[mikeydxer]

Hey.....I'm looking to buy one of those.....where did you get it and for how much? If I may ask.......Thanks:D

[Night Prowler]

Hey.....I'm looking to buy one of those.....where did you get it and for how much? If I may ask.......Thanks:D

solidsignal......under 70 bucks......ordered thursday night......got it today...:D

[Night Prowler]

so far it's working well.......but if you need to use an amplifier.......this unit will only use a 17vdc 50mA one..........if you need more.....you can run two cables.......one from the antenna to amp to tuner.......and the other cable from motor to control box.......

At first when looking at them on line...I though they were plastic molded bodies......but when I got it......it is a metal cast body.....:thumbsup:

[Night Prowler]

ok you electrical wizards........this thing can only support up to 17v 50Ma pre amplifier.......what about a 12v 200Ma?

What would be the deciding factor?

[dumb as a stump]

Im in the same boat in niagara Just so you know I point ssw ( although buff is se of me) and get all pretty decent and dont have to turn the ant very often. although I more often have to tweak it now that the yanks are digital and lower power.

[Night Prowler]

Im in the same boat in niagara Just so you know I point ssw ( although buff is se of me) and get all pretty decent and dont have to turn the ant very often. although I more often have to tweak it now that the yanks are digital and lower power.

Same for me but in reverse.....:D.......I did run the extra cable for the amp.......dependent on the time of day.............I do need it for CBLT-DT (Mostly for Hockey Night in Canada) and CHCH-DT more than the others....:thumbsup:

[mikeydxer]

Hey Night Prowler.....hope this question isn't considered a hi jack but here it goes.....Do you or anyone else seem to get interference from the sun on an OTA antenna? It seems to me that the suns UV rays interfere with this digital reception much the same way it does with satellite. I seem to experience problems with Buffalo ch 7 around 1 pm or so.The again at 5 or 6 pm on Buffalo ch 29.Have you or anyone else had these experiences? Forgive me for not starting a new thread........:bawl:

[Night Prowler]

Hey Night Prowler.....hope this question isn't considered a hi jack but here it goes.....Do you or anyone else seem to get interference from the sun on an OTA antenna? It seems to me that the suns UV rays interfere with this digital reception much the same way it does with satellite. I seem to experience problems with Buffalo ch 7 around 1 pm or so.The again at 5 or 6 pm on Buffalo ch 29.Have you or anyone else had these experiences? Forgive me for not starting a new thread........:bawl:

I don't think the sun has anything to do with it, more of interference from other factors such as atmospheric conditions and local surrounding noise interference....:noidea: maybe Terryl can jump in and go into details.....:thumbsup:

[agmemnon]

You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane......You lock the door........And throw away the key.........There's someone in my head but it's not me.....


sanitarium, like the line

[Night Prowler]

You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane......You lock the door........And throw away the key.........There's someone in my head but it's not me.....


sanitarium, like the line

we all have days like that......:D

[profit]

How many channels do you get with the proper antenna etc? I have a old one now , and want to change that, but dont know what to get.I am about 80 KM N/E of Toronto.

[Night Prowler]

How many channels do you get with the proper antenna etc? I have a old one now , and want to change that, but dont know what to get.I am about 80 KM N/E of Toronto.

I'm getting about 17-19 digital and about 8-10 analogs.........

you can go here and check what is available for you.....and the type of antenna you may need.....:thumbsup:

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=90

[Terryl]

Hey Night Prowler.....hope this question isn't considered a hi jack but here it goes.....Do you or anyone else seem to get interference from the sun on an OTA antenna? It seems to me that the suns UV rays interfere with this digital reception much the same way it does with satellite. I seem to experience problems with Buffalo ch 7 around 1 pm or so.The again at 5 or 6 pm on Buffalo ch 29.Have you or anyone else had these experiences? Forgive me for not starting a new thread........:bawl:

Boy did I miss this one, Sorry.

It could be ground bounce, the TV signal will bounce off the ground just like a rock skipping on a lake if the weather and ground conditions are just right.

This is just like when you’re driving down the road and see what looks like water in the road but then it’s not there, an RF wave will do the same thing.

Another possibility is atmospherics, the TV signal radiates out from the antenna in what would look like a big donut with a very small hole in the middle (the size of the antenna) they try to shape this radiation pattern to get as much signal as possible straight out from the antenna but some will go up, the signal going up will under certain conditions be reflected back down toward the ground.

This reflected signal (ether the one bounced off the ground or reflected back down) is 180 degrees out of phase with the direct incoming signal, when the two signals get to be the same amplitude they will cancel each other out and you will loose the channel your watching for a bit or all together.

Multipath is another problem, that is the TV signal bouncing off all sorts of things like big buildings, lakes, sides of large hills, big parking lots, lots of houses with TV antennas on them, you name it.

This is why it’s best to mount the antenna as high as you can, (peak of the roof, or a large tower) it will avoid most terrestrial interference.

[cmeroth]

well.....finally made a decision to get a rotor.......EagleAspen ROTR100........cheaper and cleaner looking than stacking another antenna since the major channels available to me from the CN tower and Buffalo are 180 degrees from each other and lamost the same distance......:D

http://www.eagleaspen.com/products/products_2.php?lb_id=&id=90

sounds like we are really close to each other Night. about the same issue I have here. I did put up a roter last december. sure makes it easier.

Would be intrested in what you get, as I seem to be missing some SD that I am sure I should get.

[Night Prowler]

I'll try to make a list of what I get......:thumbsup:

[cmeroth]

that would be great. so I can check to see if what tvfool tells me I should get and what i really do is just my set up or something else...

I can only pull in 5 or 6 digital even with the rotor... and 7 or 8 analog..

thats with a 12 foot attena that is good for uhf and vhf high and low. so not sure whats up.. its 30 feet up in the air and I am half way up the escarpment so way over the lake...

[Night Prowler]

US side: All Digital
2.1 WGRZ-HD
2.2 WGRZ-US
2.3 WGRZ-RT
4.1 WIVB-HD
7.1 WKBW-HD
17.1 WNED-HD
17.2 WNED-SD
17.3 WNED-TH
23.1 WNLO-HD
26.1 WNYB-SD
26.2 WNYB-HD
26.3 WNYBSD2
26.4 WNYBSD3
29.1 WUTV-HD
29.2 TCN
49.1 WYNO-HD
49.2 COOL-TV
51.1 ION-SD
51.2 qubo
51.3 IONLife
67-1 WBBZ-DT
67-2 THIS-DT
67-3 METV-DT
67-4 DAYSTAR-DT

Canadian side All Digital:

5.1 CBLT-DT
9.1 CFTO-DT
11.1 CHCH-DT
19.1 TVO-DT
25.1 CBLFT-DT
41.1 CiIII-DT
47.1 OMNI1-DT
57.1 CITYTV-DT
69-1 OMNI2-DT

Canadian side Analog:

gone for good.....woohooo!!!

[cmeroth]

thank you sir, seems I am missing a few. back to tweeking to see what can be recovered.

thanks for taking the time to post...

[Night Prowler]

Have tried this tool......it'll give you the azimuth for each tower to help pinpoint your scans...

http://www.tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29

[mikeydxer]

Boy did I miss this one, Sorry.

It could be ground bounce, the TV signal will bounce off the ground just like a rock skipping on a lake if the weather and ground conditions are just right.

This is just like when you’re driving down the road and see what looks like water in the road but then it’s not there, an RF wave will do the same thing.

Another possibility is atmospherics, the TV signal radiates out from the antenna in what would look like a big donut with a very small hole in the middle (the size of the antenna) they try to shape this radiation pattern to get as much signal as possible straight out from the antenna but some will go up, the signal going up will under certain conditions be reflected back down toward the ground.

This reflected signal (ether the one bounced off the ground or reflected back down) is 180 degrees out of phase with the direct incoming signal, when the two signals get to be the same amplitude they will cancel each other out and you will loose the channel your watching for a bit or all together.

Multipath is another problem, that is the TV signal bouncing off all sorts of things like big buildings, lakes, sides of large hills, big parking lots, lots of houses with TV antennas on them, you name it.

This is why it’s best to mount the antenna as high as you can, (peak of the roof, or a large tower) it will avoid most terrestrial interference.

Hey Thanks Terryl.....I thought there was something going on....Let me tell you that I am a long time TV FM dxer...I totally understand the propagation thing... I also have been doing satellite for 26 years and am familiar with solar outages and the effect of interference on RF. It seems to me that solar interference is a possibility on ANY digital signal ...given the right conditions.I just wanted to hear it from someone else "in the know" I am 20 miles east of Buffalo in a small town....and have absolutely no barriers between me and the towers, not even trees! PM me sometime and maybe we can trade theories....Mike

[Night Prowler]

Seems a couple of days ago someone bought out wngs tv 67.1 to the tune of 2.5 mil or something like that.......use to be Daystar......now they are programming ThisTV........:thumbsup:

67.1 and 67.2 ThisTV

67.3 Daystar

[1boxman]

I fine with the new dtv air signal..they seem to make changes....So I scan once in a while...all so move rotor and scan in each direction..to gain all the channels..

But you cannot beat 1080p on antenna...

[Night Prowler]

Here's another treat for WNY.......Channel 49.2 has become The CoolTV channel.....a Music broadcast channel.......http://www.thecooltv.com/index.php

[5aszdale]

I fine with the new dtv air signal..they seem to make changes....So I scan once in a while...all so move rotor and scan in each direction..to gain all the channels..

But you cannot beat 1080p on antenna...

Hi boxman, just wanted to let you know that currently there are no HD channels available in 1080p; they're either broadcast in 720p or 1080i. You can only see 1080p if you are watching Blue-ray Dvd with compatible dvd player. :no:

[Night Prowler]

Well Country Music fans......it's your turn......channel 29-2 is broadcasting The Country Music Channel.....CNTV......:yeaah:

[Night Prowler]

surfing through channels last night......found a new one that popped up......I don't think I ever scanned this channel in.......maybe my TV finds them automatically......:lol:

TCT Family.......WNYBSD2.....26-3

mostly a religious station but has some old shows during prime time and late night.....Beverly Hillbillies......the Lucy Show....Bonanza......Roy Rogers Show......Petticoat Junction.....Robin Hood.....The Cisco Kid......

[whositwhatnow]

Hey all i just put up a CM4221HD for my dad on his roof and did my scan with my tv. I've adjusted it the best i can i get approx 13 channels. I do however get a low signal on cbs(HD) think its 4-1.
Will i need a preamp to boost my signal on this antenna?? I as well do not get ctv etc. I'm in an area where i should be able to get both toronto and buffalo stations but don't think my signal strength is strong enough. Any help or info would help.

[Terryl]

An amp will help but make sure you don't overload the TV set with too much signal, raising the antenna higher helps also.

The CM4221 is slightly directional, meaning it works better pointing front toward the signals, if the channels your looking for are off to the side of the antenna you will have a weak signal on them.

You can go to TVfool.com and enter your location, then select the radar plot, it will tell you what is around your area and what direction they are from your locationand what type/size antenna would be needed.

In some cases and in some areas the TV signals are in many different directions, then a TV antenna rotor would be needed.

[whositwhatnow]

An amp will help but make sure you don't overload the TV set with too much signal, raising the antenna higher helps also.

The CM4221 is slightly directional, meaning it works better pointing front toward the signals, if the channels your looking for are off to the side of the antenna you will have a weak signal on them.

You can go to TVfool.com and enter your location, then select the radar plot, it will tell you what is around your area and what direction they are from your locationand what type/size antenna would be needed.

In some cases and in some areas the TV signals are in many different directions, then a TV antenna rotor would be needed.

- TV is a Samsung D630 HD set I do not want to kill it how can i tell if i would overload it?
- Antenna is raised pretty high have it mounted on the highest part of the chimney
- now will it catch signals front and back
- went there did that and this antenna was shown as being sufficient
- was trying to see if i could get away with no motor trying to make it as easy as possible for him :)

[dishuser]

- TV is a Samsung D630 HD set I do not want to kill it how can i tell if i would overload it?
- Antenna is raised pretty high have it mounted on the highest part of the chimney
- now will it catch signals front and back
- went there did that and this antenna was shown as being sufficient
- was trying to see if i could get away with no motor trying to make it as easy as possible for him :)

move it around while checking signal
I'm in niagara and can get buffalo perfect with a coathanger antenna
I can even get it with an indoor antenna with amp
also I can get cbc but as far as I know ctv isn't digital yet

[whositwhatnow]

move it around while checking signal
I'm in niagara and can get buffalo perfect with a coathanger antenna
I can even get it with an indoor antenna with amp
also I can get cbc but as far as I know ctv isn't digital yet

CBC i get CHCH i get at my dads, CTV must be digital because I'm getting CTV, Global up on Hamilton mountain with mine :). I'll go try it out again. Thanks. Do you guys think though i should put in an amp? Or just raise up the antenna higher?

[dishuser]

CBC i get CHCH i get at my dads, CTV must be digital because I'm getting CTV, Global up on Hamilton mountain with mine :). I'll go try it out again. Thanks. Do you guys think though i should put in an amp? Or just raise up the antenna higher?

something I just remembered
most toronto stations are hard to get south of cn tower
north is easy since that's the way signal is sent

[dishuser]

according to tv fool ctv is analog

[Thun]

HD CTV Toronto is 9.1 Analog channel 9

[5aszdale]

according to tv fool ctv is analog


tv fool is wrong, CTV digital (9-1) has been available (broadcasting in 1080i, 5.1) the last few years, however like you say, signal not as strong south of CN tower. I have a rotor, and can get most channels (without pre-amp); as a matter of fact, some signals (like CBC 5.1, CHCH 11.1), are so strong, I can have all 4 TV's on them with hardly any signal degradation. Can't get CTV like that though, have to disconnect other 3 from splitter and run straight through in order to get it, ditto for 57-1 (City HD)and 4.1 (CBS). One channel I cannot get for the life of me is 29.1 from Buffalo. Here's a link to what's available in Western New York/Toronto area
hxxp://www.remotecentral.com/hdtv (change x's to t's); I'm not familiar with tv fool, so I've been using that link the last few years. A better bet than the 4221 4-bay previous poster mentioned is the 4228, which has 8 bays; better chance to get the fringe channels.

[whositwhatnow]

tv fool is wrong, CTV digital (9-1) has been available (broadcasting in 1080i, 5.1) the last few years, however like you say, signal not as strong south of CN tower. I have a rotor, and can get most channels (without pre-amp); as a matter of fact, some signals (like CBC 5.1, CHCH 11.1), are so strong, I can have all 4 TV's on them with hardly any signal degradation. Can't get CTV like that though, have to disconnect other 3 from splitter and run straight through in order to get it, ditto for 57-1 (City HD)and 4.1 (CBS). One channel I cannot get for the life of me is 29.1 from Buffalo. Here's a link to what's available in Western New York/Toronto area
hxxp://www.remotecentral.com/hdtv (change x's to t's); I'm not familiar with tv fool, so I've been using that link the last few years. A better bet than the 4221 4-bay previous poster mentioned is the 4228, which has 8 bays; better chance to get the fringe channels.

I guess i should of researched more before getting the 4221HD. I will add the CM7778 to the mix see if i can boost the signal a little more. i guess with this antenna its either buffalo or toronto not both.

[5aszdale]

I guess i should of researched more before getting the 4221HD. I will add the CM7778 to the mix see if i can boost the signal a little more. i guess with this antenna its either buffalo or toronto not both.

It all depends where you're located; my father in law in Oakville lives about a mile from the Lakeshore, and with his 4228 mounted to his chimney, with a 10' mast (without pre-amp) can pull in close to 45 channels (most of Toronto/buf. stations), with approx. 30 being HD and remainder analogue. Some HD channels only come in at certain times of the day, some are SD, some are duplicates. One good thing, can't beat picture quality on HD/SD channels, and no need for cable sub anymore (he's a cheap old bugger, so the cost of the antenna is well worth it). He's pointed somewhere towards the middle between CN tower, and Grand Island NY. If tweaked too far towards Toronto, he loses Buffalo 29-1, it tweaked too far towards Buffalo, he loses 57-1 City TV. That's from his location, yours could be totally different.

[whositwhatnow]

It all depends where you're located; my father in law in Oakville lives about a mile from the Lakeshore, and with his 4228 mounted to his chimney, with a 10' mast (without pre-amp) can pull in close to 45 channels (most of Toronto/buf. stations), with approx. 30 being HD and remainder analogue. Some HD channels only come in at certain times of the day, some are SD, some are duplicates. One good thing, can't beat picture quality on HD/SD channels, and no need for cable sub anymore (he's a cheap old bugger, so the cost of the antenna is well worth it). He's pointed somewhere towards the middle between CN tower, and Grand Island NY. If tweaked too far towards Toronto, he loses Buffalo 29-1, it tweaked too far towards Buffalo, he loses 57-1 City TV. That's from his location, yours could be totally different.

My dad is in hamilton, 10 minute drive from highway (centennial parkway). I'll try pointing in the middle as well the hard part is i'll have to rescan everytime i point it. or is there another way to check signal. I tried by putting it on a digital channel and moved antenna that way but didn't make too much a difference.

[5aszdale]

My dad is in hamilton, 10 minute drive from highway (centennial parkway). I'll try pointing in the middle as well the hard part is i'll have to rescan everytime i point it. or is there another way to check signal. I tried by putting it on a digital channel and moved antenna that way but didn't make too much a difference.

Is your dad South up Centennial?? If below the Mountain, the closer to the base of the escarpment, the harder to get Buffalo stations; TO stations shouldn't be a problem though. As far as the TV goes, there should be some kind of Signal Strength indicator in the Digital/Antenna setup Menu; some TV's menus/sub-menus are kind of hard to find or follow, but you should be able to find something else to aid you, instead of having to re-scan all the time.

[Night Prowler]

Some added and channel changes......

Changes
67.1 (HD) and 67.3 (SD) is now METV

Added
26.4 Spanish Music
67.4 is now Daystar

US side: All Digital
2.1 WGRZ-HD
2.2 WGRZ-US
2.3 WGRZ-RT
4.1 WIVB-HD
7.1 WKBW-HD
17.1 WNED-HD
17.2 WNED-SD
17.3 WNED-TH
23.1 WNLO-HD
26.1 WNYB-SD
26.2 WNYB-HD
26.3 WNYBSD2
26.4 WNYBSD3 (Spanish Music)
29.1 WUTV-HD
29.2 TCN
49.1 WYNO-HD
49.2 COOL-TV
51.1 ION-SD
51.2 qubo
51.3 IONLife
67-1 WNGS-DT or METV (HD)
67-2 This-DT
67-3 METV (SD)
67.4 Daystar

Canadian side Digital:

5.1 CBLT-DT
9.1 CFTO-DT
11.1 CHCH-DT
19.1 TVO-DT
25.1 CBLFT-DT
41.1 CiIII-DT
47.1 OMNI1-DT
57.1 CITYTV-DT
69-1 OMNI2-DT

[Night Prowler]

Since Canada went all Digital :yeaah: I swear the analog signals were interfering with the digital ones.....only need to use the rotor to point to CHCH (11-1) and that's only like 10 degrees....all the others(Both US and Canadian) come in without any pixelation!!!!

My channel list above is updated.....:thumbsup:

[Terryl]

Yes co-channel and adjacent channel interference is/was a big problem, that is why you dont see channels 22, 23, 23, 24, 25, 26 all in a row at one city, the two channels say 22, 23 would create a third channel and it would interfere with a forth, and you don't see two channels on the same frequency close by each other.

It's all in the math and the harmonics.

[Night Prowler]

Yes co-channel and adjacent channel interference is/was a big problem, that is why you dont see channels 22, 23, 23, 24, 25, 26 all in a row at one city, the two channels say 22, 23 would create a third channel and it would interfere with a forth, and you don't see two channels on the same frequency close by each other.

It's all in the math and the harmonics.

You think I can start my own OTA-IKS server?......:lol:

[Terryl]

You would do nice during football games in your area, those that miss the home team would sign up.

[dishuser]

Since Canada went all Digital :yeaah: I swear the analog signals were interfering with the digital ones.....only need to use the rotor to point to CHCH (11-1) and that's only like 10 degrees....all the others(Both US and Canadian) come in without any pixelation!!!!

My channel list above is updated.....:thumbsup:ya since analog was removed I finally get ctv,global,omni and city
or maybe they made those bi-directional cause I know before signal was on north side of tower

[Night Prowler]

still can't get sun tv and crossroads........even pointing directly at them......nust be low powered....

[dishuser]

still can't get sun tv and crossroads........even pointing directly at them......nust be low powered....

ya 36.1 comes in weak
plus side I get digital radio though
lost erie pennsylvania awhile back too

[Night Prowler]

ya 36.1 comes in weak
plus side I get digital radio though
lost erie pennsylvania awhile back too

my tv isn't that sophisticated....:D

[dishuser]

my tv isn't that sophisticated....:D

go look on kijiji
you'll be amazed at what you can get for free...lol
old people are the best:thumbsup:

[Night Prowler]

bummer......we lost RTV!!!!!

http://classicquarters.blogspot.com/2011/09/save-rtv-buffalo-23.html

[Terryl]

It's still on 83W TP 11375H..

[Night Prowler]

It's still on 83W TP 11375H..

let's keep to the forum topic....and no double posting.......:lolpound:

[Thun]

bummer......we lost RTV!!!!!

http://classicquarters.blogspot.com/2011/09/save-rtv-buffalo-23.html

That sucks...

I'm totally dependant on the dish farm for RTV now.

[gheller]

I'm interested in setting up an OTA antenna in Ellicottville NY. Does anyone have any info on what stations I might be able to get there? Thanks ...Greg

[henric]

I'm interested in setting up an OTA antenna in Ellicottville NY. Does anyone have any info on what stations I might be able to get there? Thanks ...Greg
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