Getting 110/119

[FAMILYGUY]

I have a dish 500 pro with twin lnb's, I always get the 119 with different angles than mentioned on dishpointer and I cannot get anything with the angles suggested on the pointer. Just wondering if its abnormal to get a satellite when not pointed correctly? Also did not spend a huge amount of time trying to get both 110/119 cause am satisfied with whats on 119, but supposedly there is an inside switch but doesn't work on mine. Any help would be appreciated.

[Mavrick]

Dishpointer is not always exact, it will only get you in the ballpark. You also might be hitting 119 with the wrong LNB, below is a diagram of how a twin-lnb works, and you will also need to skew the dish (turn it like a steering wheel) to get both sats. For the switch you would need to set 119 as Disqec1 and 110 as Disqec2.

[FAMILYGUY]

I appreciate the diagram, that could be the problem, when I am aiming the dish I use the elevation mostly cause it seems the skew doesn't do much or really change anything when checking the Q and S. I am getting 119 but then have to actually go out and change the settings on the dish if wanted to watch something on 110, I figure I am pretty close to getting both but completely different angles and not near the proper settings per the pointer. The thing is its not in the ballpark either.

[TurboPirate]

I appreciate the diagram, that could be the problem, when I am aiming the dish I use the elevation mostly cause it seems the skew doesn't do much or really change anything when checking the Q and S. I am getting 119 but then have to actually go out and change the settings on the dish if wanted to watch something on 110, I figure I am pretty close to getting both but completely different angles and not near the proper settings per the pointer. The thing is its not in the ballpark either.

Not an exact address but where are you? I know the skew changes from a location to another............here in Puerto Rico to get both sats in the same dish the second LNB goes Upside down...........I am not sure but the internal switch is set in the FTA receiver as a legacy switch 1 and 2 for 110 have to make sure the left eye (standing behind the dish) is the one aiming to 119...............................
http://satfix.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3485&stc=1&d=1268198869

[Mavrick]

Not an exact address but where are you? I know the skew changes from a location to another............here in Puerto Rico to get both sats in the same dish the second LNB goes Upside down...........I am not sure but the internal switch is set in the FTA receiver as a legacy switch 1 and 2 for 110 have to make sure the left eye (standing behind the dish) is the one aiming to 119...............................
http://satfix.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3485&stc=1&d=1268198869

He has a "twin" lnb not 2 singles, so he can't turn one of them upsidedown. But I like your set-up.....lol.

[Mavrick]

I appreciate the diagram, that could be the problem, when I am aiming the dish I use the elevation mostly cause it seems the skew doesn't do much or really change anything when checking the Q and S. I am getting 119 but then have to actually go out and change the settings on the dish if wanted to watch something on 110, I figure I am pretty close to getting both but completely different angles and not near the proper settings per the pointer. The thing is its not in the ballpark either.

Are you sure your mast is plum?
Also remember if your longitude is east of the sats then 110 sat is higher in the sky and you need to skew clockwise. If your longitude is west of the sats then 110 Sat is lower in the sky and you have to skew counterclockwise, that is looking from the back of the dish towards the sky. If you live at longitude 114.5 there is no need to skew for 110 & 119.

[FAMILYGUY]

sorry for the delay, long day, I live in philly, that is a pretty interesting setup there but yeah I have the twin, yeah it would be clockwise but tried and no go, must be the way the dish is angles or something. ALso if got d**network sub would I be able to have them set it up then get all the channels by hooking up a box, also would they know I hooked up the box?

[Mavrick]

You would need to activate your DN-box for it to work, but you could have both a sub and FTA receiver hooked-up at the same time, just run a seperate line from the LNB to each receiver.
I wrote this guide below on the other site for aiming a dish with a CNX, it might help you out, I would also check that both sides of your LNB are working.......

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Aiming a dish with a CNX receiver:
The first thing to consider when aiming the dish is first where to put it. You must make sure you have a clear line-of-site to the satellite/satellites you want to hit, so no trees or buildings can be in the way.

When installing a dish, make sure you anchor the dish to a solid base, remember that wind, rain, snow will be constantly battering the dish so it has to be anchored solidly. Next, using a level, make sure the mast of the dish is straight & plum, this will be very important when you go to aim the dish at a satellite later-on.

You will need to go to a satellite pointing site on the web to get the azimuth, elevation, and skew for your location (you will only need to skew the dish if pointing at 2 or more sat’s with one dish). Depending on the website your use, they might also have a line showing which direction you should point from your house, Dishpointer.com has this line. Now remember…..these numbers will only get you in the “ball-park” when aiming the dish, you will still need to use your receiver and move the dish to lock-on to the signal. With these numbers in hand, use a compass (or the line you got off the aiming-site) to set the azimuth, and then use the markings on the side of the dish to set the proper elevation.

The best way I have found to aim a dish is to connect a small TV to your receiver and take it up by the dish. If you don’t have an extra video cable that long then take both the receiver and a TV up to the dish then all you need is power. There are signal meters you can use for aiming but I have found that using the receiver is a much better way to aim the dish.

To aim your dish with the CNX receiver, connect the cable from the LNB straight to the receiver and go to the Channel Search Menu on the receiver. Select the satellite you want to hit at the top of the screen and enter all the other setting on the page. Now slowly start to swing your dish (stopping every few degrees) till you see the Q reading on the right hand side of the screen start to rise, you may need to make adjustment to the elevation till you hit the satellite you’re looking for. Once you see the Q-bar reading start to rise a satellite-name should appear down by the search button on the menu (you might need to change the TP setting for a second to get the name to appear), this name that appears down by the search button is the satellite you’re currently hitting and has to match the name you selected at the top of the page, if it does not match the name you selected at the top then keep searching. Once you have found the satellite you’re looking for, keep adjusting the dish until the Q reading is as high as you can get it, then you can lock-down your dish and you’re done for that LNB. The S reading that’s also on the screen just lets you know how strong the connection is between the LNB and receiver; it has nothing to do with signal reception from a satellite.

If you have a Twin (or more than 1 LNB) on the dish then you need to skew the dish to pick-up the second satellite. Skewing the dish means turning it like you would the steering wheel of your car. Turn your receiver off and then connect the second LNB straight to the receiver (if using a Twin LNB you would use the same cable but just change the Diseqc setting to 2 on the page). If aiming for both 91W & 82W it’s best to lock-on to 82W first then skew for 91W. If aiming for 110W & 119W it’s best to lock-on to 119W first then skew for 110W. Once you have skewed for the second satellite go back and re-check the first one again to make sure it’s still ok.

Once you have everything aimed properly make sure everything is tightened down then you can add in a switch (if needed) and make the proper changes in the settings menu for the switch.

It’s very important to remember to turn your receiver off with the back switch before unhooking ANYTHING in your system.