View Full Version : IKS CLUB Ripoff
Eddym
06-30-2015, 03:38 PM
I recently purchased an IPTV receiver MAG254 from IKS CLUB (iksclub.com) from Canada. They advertise with their subscription, they have over 10,000 movies on demand and all open DISH/BEV/SKY/IPTV channels, including all PPV and adult channels. It was all FALSE ADVERTISING in addition to the constant freezing issues. So I decided to return the box and I sent them an email. A guy by the name of Lucas responded with the following email with threats:
“You opened the box?? You will pay a restocking fee simple as that and if you give us problems we will be a HUGE problem to you disappointed you joking??? You see the channel lists?? we do not accept USED products back and I will tell you now Mr. XXXXX you give us ANY problems you will be the 1 with the Problem just like every other person like you gave us problem that will end up with a letter and all your details given to the right people..You want to talk about us like that? I am very very upset with you do not make me more angry you will REGRET it for the rest of your days
1. Did you change your buffer settings??? Doubt it
2. What is your internet speed? Do a speed test
3. I will forward this message and your email to over 19 000 paid members that will flood you with praise to our company"
Since I paid with Paypal, I opened a claim and I already sent the box back to their Canada address and I am expecting a full refund.
Today, I opened my email and found over 400 “spoof” emails from Canada. It seems they are living up to their threat, so I am expecting more emails. Their threat was real.
Buyers beware! Stay away from IKS CLUB! They not only try to sell you an inferior product, but they will make sure to harass you, if you are not satisfied with their junk. That is so childish and unprofessional. I don’t know how people like that can stay in business.
nob0dy
06-30-2015, 04:09 PM
Old news ....... it's posted at my home-site ....... you should read & research before you buy ...........
Nostradamus
06-30-2015, 04:14 PM
yeah he doesn't play nice. I warned people up front about him and he started mail bombing me as well. Not because I bought from him but I got tired of his damn spamming and told him so. I didn't get mad, I got even. If you still have all the emails and they came from a gmail account or whatever report everyone of them to their abuse email address he will stop :)
report his website to his webhost as selling piracy devices and the site will be gone as well
nice to see him still in business. he is a douche bag, always was and always will be
ftanewbie
06-30-2015, 07:48 PM
i have heard that some IPTV boxes when u load them up with a bunch addons it suffers from freezing issues..not sure if is true or not i dont use iptv.....also u need unlimited web access.....i seen them on e-bay pre program like post 1 mention, so i wounder if thats a common scam thats going around?
dustdogger
06-30-2015, 08:23 PM
Thanks for the warning! I was thinking about signing up with him, but your info has made me sure to stay away.
frostycold
06-30-2015, 08:36 PM
Well, buyer beware. I am not sure why you wouldn't have done some research on this guy. I googled it, and tons of red flags. I'm sorry you got screwed over, but even a little bit of research would have saved you the headache.
Wasn't that site selling the cod123 IPTV? If so he must have a reseller panel from them. Maybe a headsup from someone that knows them could get his dealer panel shut down so that he doesn't pull the same sh*t on others.
I doubt if any IPTV service would want to be associated with anything like that - he may be selling yearly plans and only paying the cod guys for one month and then will disappear.
Nostradamus
07-01-2015, 01:48 AM
awhile back he was selling boxes and codes and had it advertised on kijiji
bassfisher
07-01-2015, 02:00 AM
Childish and unprofessional. Let us know how its resolved and sorry you learned at a cost. goo Luck!
Kijijiji? Great, now i have to change my dating profile there.
Eddym
07-01-2015, 12:26 PM
I think you are absolutely right. He is selling the boxes with a 2-year subscription, but when I checked my account in the box, it said it will expire in 30 days. I wrote to him and he said not to worry, that his computer updates that every month. It sounded fishy, but your conclusion shows the real scam.
Eddym
07-01-2015, 12:27 PM
Paypal ruled on my favor and I got a full refund.
Benney
07-01-2015, 12:32 PM
Kijijiji? Great, now i have to change my dating profile there.
LOL don't worry the Rice Lake Bass can't read anyway. LOL
bassfisher
07-01-2015, 03:06 PM
LOL don't worry the Rice Lake Bass can't read anyway. LOL
But i still get odd nibbles . . .lol. Not bad, only off by few casts in distance. Bit further north of all them fancy assed tourist
spots.
Besides, girlie friend is a butcher and fellow hunter. Really think i'd cheat on that?
aceallenk
07-01-2015, 04:59 PM
This morning I received an email from another FORUM. Must have replied to some previous thread long ago, don't remember. Anyway the link FTA Patriot links to IKS Club. So he's advertising hard and I am sure glad to have caught this thread. Sure appears to be a great service on the outside looking in but sure appears to wear a different mask from friendly when you need a little support. Heres a copy of his email with the links fta patriot distorted. There is sure a lot of crap being sold by crappy folk nowaday on the net. Guess when you find a good reseller from here or somewhere else, stick with him. Being using same seller a long time and is up front and a word that still means something when you need an opinion on a new or existing service. Buyer beware for sure and this just proves you can never read to much, cause its the first review on this cat and definitely one to stay away from!
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No more satellite antennas or wires or even have to worry about a scrambled channel again. Basically with our private servers and the MAG254 unit connected via internet wireless option included it will allow you to obtain all of the best channels from the 3 best satellite providers Dishnet/Bev/Sky our servers will allow you to have all bestchannels PPV/XXX/MOVIES/SPORTS/KIDS/INTERNATIONALS all open channels and every single big PPV event are open always. This is the best thing that has happened to our testing community I suggest getting your hands on 1 you will be very very happy. Comes with free shipping and 24 month server access all is programmed direct through your remote control super simple to use.
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ftanewbie
07-01-2015, 08:06 PM
why pay u can pick one up on ebay pre program with tons of channels....now im not sure if is a scam or not....but the channel list looks pretty good.
bassfisher
07-01-2015, 11:50 PM
why pay u can pick one up on ebay pre program with tons of channels....now im not sure if is a scam or not....but the channel list looks pretty good.
Just my observ, but when buying a preload they seem to lock box to that service. Captive repeat and useless box when service
ends up on extinct list.
Why become a captive audience?
Benney
07-02-2015, 12:00 AM
Just my observ, but when buying a preload they seem to lock box to that service. Captive repeat and useless box when service
ends up on extinct list.
Why become a captive audience?
Something like that POS Jynxbox Live! These days unless you speak some foreign language you might as well use it for a door stop.
ftanewbie
07-02-2015, 01:17 AM
Just my observ, but when buying a preload they seem to lock box to that service. Captive repeat and useless box when service
ends up on extinct list.
Why become a captive audience?
but can does kodi boxes be re program when they expire.....i see theirs a bunch of add on for them......not IPTV user but for what i have read here and in other sites everything a $ IPTV server offers u can program your box your self to get it for free.
sneakymise
07-03-2015, 12:32 AM
Something like that POS Jynxbox Live! These days unless you speak some foreign language you might as well use it for a door stop.
Jynxbox live seems to have been revived!
Seen one yesterday running MaxxFiber server on it with loads of channels. Lots of USA and Canadian feeds as well as tons internationals. Picture quality was awesome and channel change was instant.
And NO I'm not selling any of these nor am I making publicity for them. Just stating what I saw.
Benney
07-03-2015, 07:18 PM
Jynxbox live seems to have been revived!
Seen one yesterday running MaxxFiber server on it with loads of channels. Lots of USA and Canadian feeds as well as tons internationals. Picture quality was awesome and channel change was instant.
And NO I'm not selling any of these nor am I making publicity for them. Just stating what I saw.
I'll plug the thing in later tonight and see what's new for sure.
Nostradamus
07-03-2015, 07:34 PM
what is MaxxFiber? it sounds like some high strength laxative but I am guessing it is some type of IPTV service. t did they do to accomplish that? reflash the whole unit to a different image?
jeldf
07-03-2015, 07:52 PM
there is such a thing........only it's from China. Buyer beware LMAO
Benney
07-03-2015, 08:26 PM
Jynxbox live seems to have been revived!
Seen one yesterday running MaxxFiber server on it with loads of channels. Lots of USA and Canadian feeds as well as tons internationals. Picture quality was awesome and channel change was instant.
And NO I'm not selling any of these nor am I making publicity for them. Just stating what I saw.
haha where do I start.
MaxxFiber won't even download from the App store.
Got Bet tv working for 3 minutes and started to freeze.
Tried to change channels and it froze and then went into a boot loop four times then came back.
Then I get voice and no picture.
Rebooted and now 30 minutes later it is sitting on the jynxbox logo froze.
Support is moving backwards in time at the Official support site.
I was a mod there and complained about these issues in the back room and gave up.
Took it out in the open and they banned me.
As I said before a POS.
For the 300 bucks buy a mini computer or a netbook for 200 bucks.
Benney
07-03-2015, 08:32 PM
yep and if it's run by the Jynx group get ready to see support drop as soon as the technical parts start to go wrong.
http://www.maxxfiber.com/
ftanewbie
07-05-2015, 03:38 PM
so maxfiber dont work in the US? because for under ten bucks a month u cant go wrong.
jeldf
07-05-2015, 04:07 PM
subscribe and report back! LOL...........isn't this Dishuser's job? LOL
bassfisher
07-05-2015, 04:11 PM
Why you holding back? Tell us how you really feel--true feelings, lol.
Only thing missing was you getting splinters from the remote buttons.
haha where do I start.
MaxxFiber won't even download from the App store.
Got Bet tv working for 3 minutes and started to freeze.
Tried to change channels and it froze and then went into a boot loop four times then came back.
Then I get voice and no picture.
Rebooted and now 30 minutes later it is sitting on the jynxbox logo froze.
Support is moving backwards in time at the Official support site.
I was a mod there and complained about these issues in the back room and gave up.
Took it out in the open and they banned me.
As I said before a POS.
For the 300 bucks buy a mini computer or a netbook for 200 bucks.
nob0dy
07-05-2015, 05:03 PM
POS = pile/piece of ***** .......... i see no hold back here ;D
sneakymise
07-07-2015, 09:17 PM
My buddy is leaving on vacation this weekend and I asked him to leave me his box so I can play around with it. I'll report my findings. But yeah 300$ is very steep. He told me it comes with 1 year of channels, then he has to pay 100$ . What really bugs me about all these boxes and services is the lack of an epg... I mean, it's fine for sports fans that know exactly when their event starts but channel surfing for a movie or tv show really sucks.
bassfisher
07-07-2015, 10:57 PM
POS = pile/piece of ***** .......... i see no hold back here ;D
will hold up sarcasm sign in future . . . sheesh.
ftanewbie
07-08-2015, 10:22 PM
My buddy is leaving on vacation this weekend and I asked him to leave me his box so I can play around with it. I'll report my findings. But yeah 300$ is very steep. He told me it comes with 1 year of channels, then he has to pay 100$ . What really bugs me about all these boxes and services is the lack of an epg... I mean, it's fine for sports fans that know exactly when their event starts but channel surfing for a movie or tv show really sucks.
yes he paid a lot for a pre program box...but a buck a year is not bad if u get a nice channel list with tons of great channels and never go down.....Dish or DTV over 175 a month.
jeldf
07-09-2015, 12:19 AM
report back with your love of this great service LMAO
BIGPAPI1
07-09-2015, 01:50 PM
It is mentioned on another site that it is the same scammer steveb that got banned on this site
jeldf
07-09-2015, 03:07 PM
who'd have guessed steveb.........he's always welcome back with a new nic
sneakymise
07-09-2015, 04:24 PM
First off im not steveb and never was. Some people on this forum know me personally and can attest to that. Secondly i've never scammed anyone on or offline. Thirdly IM NOT SELLING ANYTHING. Just reported what I saw. It'll be a cold day in hell when I sell a 300$ iptv box.
jeldf
07-09-2015, 04:31 PM
relax, nobody has accused you of anything. Just discussing the service.
Condor
07-09-2015, 07:51 PM
First off im not steveb and never was. Some people on this forum know me personally and can attest to that. Secondly i've never scammed anyone on or offline. Thirdly IM NOT SELLING ANYTHING. Just reported what I saw. It'll be a cold day in hell when I sell a 300$ iptv box.
relax, nobody has accused you of anything. Just discussing the service.
Exactly.. Take a deep breath........
nob0dy
07-10-2015, 02:50 PM
Exactly.. Take a deep breath........
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...............;D
1boxman
07-10-2015, 03:09 PM
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mikil123
07-11-2015, 08:53 PM
Nothing wrong with iksclub? Great ip TV service for ip guys? Buy your own box pick your own reseller and your good to go!
I dealt with Lucas and he is straight up and honest Gave me a free trial of his service Liked it a lot better than the other scum sucking resellers I dealt with in the past
I had one guy tell me that I was stuck with him for good because He wouldn't release my MAC address from the ip guys system
Iksclub however said to give them the address and they could release it
I'm sorry that the guy that originally posted this thread had issues with iksclub but I have always believed there are two sides to every story?
If I opened up a new mag unit and attempted to return it I would also expect an argument from the seller
As for iksclub they seem to be the best reseller of ip guys I have dealt with yet
Thanks for reading
kenkell1
07-11-2015, 09:41 PM
Nothing wrong with iksclub? Great ip TV service for ip guys? Buy your own box pick your own reseller and your good to go!
I dealt with Lucas and he is straight up and honest Gave me a free trial of his service Liked it a lot better than the other scum sucking resellers I dealt with in the past
I had one guy tell me that I was stuck with him for good because He wouldn't release my MAC address from the ip guys system
Iksclub however said to give them the address and they could release it
I'm sorry that the guy that originally posted this thread had issues with iksclub but I have always believed there are two sides to every story?
If I opened up a new mag unit and attempted to return it I would also expect an argument from the seller
As for iksclub they seem to be the best reseller of ip guys I have dealt with yet
Thanks for reading
you totally deserve what you get!
Nostradamus
07-12-2015, 01:21 AM
Nothing wrong with iksclub? Great ip TV service for ip guys? Buy your own box pick your own reseller and your good to go!
I dealt with Lucas and he is straight up and honest Gave me a free trial of his service Liked it a lot better than the other scum sucking resellers I dealt with in the past
I had one guy tell me that I was stuck with him for good because He wouldn't release my MAC address from the ip guys system
Iksclub however said to give them the address and they could release it
I'm sorry that the guy that originally posted this thread had issues with iksclub but I have always believed there are two sides to every story?
If I opened up a new mag unit and attempted to return it I would also expect an argument from the seller
As for iksclub they seem to be the best reseller of ip guys I have dealt with yet
Thanks for reading
hmm 3 different threads and you are saying the same thing. how good they are! three weeks ago you were saying this:
Hello, I have a friend whom is a reseller for ipguys/voodoo. For almost two days ipguys were down and gave "NO" headsup even to their resellers? to what was going on? We just assumed they were overhauling their servers ! When they came back online things looked up and up. The channels came in quicker but there was and still is "No" guide (EPG) ? Now there is massive freezing today on many channels? and still no epg?
I would like to know if there is a reseller here that knows whats going on, or someone that actually knows whom ipguys are and can get in touch with them and let them know that there are "Alot" of pissed off customers including myself into the lack of communication they give? I guess the only way they will learn is to hit em in the pocket book. NFPS will dominate this iptv market soon .
Anyone else having freezing issues? I have 55Mbps download speed
Thanks for reading Mikil
remember that? now suddenly they are the greatest thing since sliced bread and you only had it 2 days? hmmmmm maybe you should come back in 2 weeks after NFPS kills their public stream and see if you are still happy with them. another thing that makes no sense is why you would buy from a stranger instead of your friend who is also a reseller of the same service. Be sure to let us know what you think on the service a month from now
hmm 3 different threads and you are saying the same thing. how good they are! three weeks ago you were saying this:
Hello, I have a friend whom is a reseller for ipguys/voodoo. For almost two days ipguys were down and gave "NO" headsup even to their resellers? to what was going on? We just assumed they were overhauling their servers ! When they came back online things looked up and up. The channels came in quicker but there was and still is "No" guide (EPG) ? Now there is massive freezing today on many channels? and still no epg?
I would like to know if there is a reseller here that knows whats going on, or someone that actually knows whom ipguys are and can get in touch with them and let them know that there are "Alot" of pissed off customers including myself into the lack of communication they give? I guess the only way they will learn is to hit em in the pocket book. NFPS will dominate this iptv market soon .
Anyone else having freezing issues? I have 55Mbps download speed
Thanks for reading Mikil
remember that? now suddenly they are the greatest thing since sliced bread and you only had it 2 days? hmmmmm maybe you should come back in 2 weeks after NFPS kills their public stream and see if you are still happy with them. another thing that makes no sense is why you would buy from a stranger instead of your friend who is also a reseller of the same service. Be sure to let us know what you think on the service a month from now
I am confused here NOS.. is IPGUYS and IKSclub the same service ? I do not and have not used either one but it looks as if he was with IPGUYS and had bad experience and switched to IKSClub which he is praising so far, but you are quoting a post about him complaining about a different company but implying it is one and the same... Is ipguys (which he previously complained about) and the current company he is praising (IKSclub) the same company ? :confused:
MexicaN
07-12-2015, 02:00 AM
I am confused here NOS.. is IPGUYS and IKSclub the same service ? I do not and have not used either one but it looks as if he was with IPGUYS and had bad experience and switched to IKSClub which he is praising so far, but you are quoting a post about him complaining about a different company but implying it is one and the same... Is ipguys (which he previously complained about) and the current company he is praising (IKSclub) the same company ? :confused:
they NOT the same at all completely diff services but i noticed nostradamus jumps the gun lots with deleting posts and now tryin to make other members look bad.. c`mon nos be fair with us plz we didnt do nothin to u .. just my opinion i just hope i dont get banned for saying it =S
abouttosnap
07-12-2015, 02:13 AM
Again folks be aware of a....
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persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception.
"I conned him into giving me your home number"
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an instance of deceiving or tricking someone.
"when depositors, realizing that the whole thing is a con, demand repayment"
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Nostradamus
07-12-2015, 02:23 AM
I am confused as well on the subject I am only copy and pasting what he posted and Yep Mex I am on to your game as well with the multiple nicks in the same thread ;)
I am confused as well on the subject I am only copy and pasting what he posted and Yep Mex I am on to your game as well with the multiple nicks in the same thread ;)
Why confused ? I only asked if they are the same company or not as you implied but you did not provide an answer.. I looked at his previous posts when he made a separate thread praising iksclub and seen his complaints about ipguys but assumed as most would that they are different companies.. your last post, if true would be a big revelation to the views of iksclub for everyone if you figured out they are the same as ipguys just selling under multiple names... so whats up ?
Nostradamus
07-12-2015, 02:35 AM
I am not implying anything he uses the two terms interchangeably in other posts and I am only going by what he posted. but the bottom line is I don't care what shingle they hang out front they are all coming from the same place and a lot of them will be gone when the free ride ends next week.I can't wait for the fallout from that one :)
I am not implying anything he uses the two terms interchangeably in other posts and I am only going by what he posted. but the bottom line is I don't care what shingle they hang out front they are all coming from the same place and a lot of them will be gone when the free ride ends next week.I can't wait for the fallout from that one :)
So you essentially called him out as a liar because you mistook the wording of his posts to mean both services are the same ? Perhaps clear it up a bit here and let everyone know that IKSclub and ipguys are 2 different services and there is no evidence to suggest otherwise ?
You are a mod here and as such others take what you say with more weight then they do with the average users, so its kind of important to post accurate information and if a mistake is made to correct it as soon as possible for the benefit of the whole community here.
I almost changed my opinion of both services due to your one post and quote but appreciate you clearing it up for me in the end here.. thanks nos i appreciate the update
Nostradamus
07-12-2015, 03:05 AM
it is as clear as I am going to make it. maybe he should clarify what he is posting instead of doing the fanboy thing. he is the one that was complaining about IPguys being no good. He is the one in here praising a known scammer to the heavens for a service he had for 2 days. Now do you get it Mex?
PS > you need to find a better way to hide the IPs they are a dead give away ;)
Homer Jay
07-12-2015, 03:08 AM
I believe he means that IKSClub resells IPguys service like others do on here. I am a member of IKSClub as well and so far I am 1 month in of my 3 months I paid for and it works well from time to time it freezes up or a channel does not work, seems no different then any other service being offered right now. Comparing it to Voodoo, and NFPS I like there almost all channel EPG. I also have only had good experience with customer service but I have not given them a problem like sending open merchandise back. Now if it is true what they did do I think it's wrong of them to handle stuff like that. I also had no clue IKSClub where resellers of IPguys service.
I believe he means that IKSClub resells IPguys service like others do on here. I am a member of IKSClub as well and so far I am 1 month in of my 3 months I paid for and it works well from time to time it freezes up or a channel does not work, seems no different then any other service being offered right now. Comparing it to Voodoo, and NFPS I like there almost all channel EPG. I also have only had good experience with customer service but I have not given them a problem like sending open merchandise back. Now if it is true what they did do I think it's wrong of them to handle stuff like that. I also had no clue they where resellers of IPguys but looking at IPguys channel list it seems like they are in fact reselling IPguys service.
nice review and thanks for the extra info. The OP posted about a scam that they bought a box with a 2 yr service, it seems the last bunch of posts are regarding just the service from a reseller which is a big difference when you already own the box and get to pick the subscription length / duration. So far i have read all good things from customers of their iptv subscription service but not much good when buying the box with service.
Just trying to clear things up a bit for new folks just joining in on this issue to decide on a service. From everything said it does certainly appear that IKSclub are the provider for IPguys which makes IKSclub the top level service and a whole different experience then dealing with ipguys and perhaps even the folks that sell the box's with the service but I can't be sure of that as of yet.. time will tell! :D
Nostradamus
07-12-2015, 03:38 AM
don't be putting words in my mouth. I never accused him of lying .. I asked him why the sudden about face in 3 weeks and how he could have such a great concept on something he hasn't even seen running 48 hours. big difference there from calling him a liar.
and as for the multiple nicks not hard to figure out, same join date .. user ID one number apart.. sign up IP, last number different. do the math ;)
nob0dy
07-15-2015, 02:16 PM
it is as clear as I am going to make it. maybe he should clarify what he is posting instead of doing the fanboy thing. he is the one that was complaining about IPguys being no good. He is the one in here praising a known scammer to the heavens for a service he had for 2 days. Now do you get it Mex?
PS > you need to find a better way to hide the IPs they are a dead give away ;)
:lolpound::lolpound::lolpound::lolpound::lolpound:
they NOT the same at all completely diff services but i noticed nostradamus jumps the gun lots with deleting posts and now tryin to make other members look bad.. c`mon nos be fair with us plz we didnt do nothin to u .. just my opinion i just hope i dont get banned for saying it =S
Unless IKSClub changed services they are a reseller of IPGuys service. If you check the IKSClub instructional video on YouTube - you will see that they enter the exact same Portal URL that IPGuy uses - so how can it not be the same service?
I see that IKSClub has increased their prices - but the retail prices still seem too low to be real. If you look at their one year price to a single user they are selling it for less than what the some of biggest resellers of the service can buy for.
They make a very small profit on the 3 and 6 month plans - but maybe that's part of their business plan - selling in volume :-)
Let's hope they make at least enough to stay in business and honour their deals.
The prices that they used to offer were well below dealer cost and that is what raised a red flag for a lot of guys. Also the fact that they were selling 12 month plans to end users but only giving them credit for 1 month at a time instead of the full 12 months when they purchased.
If they give them all 12 months of service - great - but on the surface it has the appearance of a "grab the money and run deal".
I know the owners of IPGuys service had said that they had some problems with resellers in the past - but so far there doesn't appear to be any facts to show that IKSClub falls into that category.
abouttosnap
07-15-2015, 05:23 PM
Guess we will see what is what after the flush tonight...since some seem to feel the need to keep bringing this same serves to the front...I'll keep saying make sure to do your homework on some of these services people...with all the aliases some have it's hard to tell who to trust anymore.
kenkell1
07-15-2015, 07:46 PM
Tomorrow will be interesting to say the least. Break out the Kleenex.
1boxman
07-15-2015, 07:59 PM
So yer saying more a peeing contest ??? :thumbsup::tape:
crazy carl
07-15-2015, 09:03 PM
Tomorrow will be interesting to say the least. Break out the Kleenex.
why would tomorrow be any different unless your saying that this service leeches from nfps iptv free trial
haggis
07-15-2015, 09:59 PM
don't be putting words in my mouth. I never accused him of lying .. I asked him why the sudden about face in 3 weeks and how he could have such a great concept on something he hasn't even seen running 48 hours. big difference there from calling him a liar.
and as for the multiple nicks not hard to figure out, same join date .. user ID one number apart.. sign up IP, last number different. do the math ;)
I just saw this thread, been away, what I cant figure out, is, why some of the people are jumping on , what Nos., has to say about all of this, he does his homework, known this person, for a long time, sure, he gets a wee bit narly/// at times, but, I know, for a surety, what he does, is the best, he can, to stop people from being scammed. Read, what he says, ABOVE, he is NOT trying to sell anything, he is watching out for all of us, well, the, US , who listen.
Condor
07-16-2015, 01:22 PM
I just saw this thread, been away, what I cant figure out, is, why some of the people are jumping on , what Nos., has to say about all of this, he does his homework, known this person, for a long time, sure, he gets a wee bit narly/// at times, but, I know, for a surety, what he does, is the best, he can, to stop people from being scammed. Read, what he says, ABOVE, he is NOT trying to sell anything, he is watching out for all of us, well, the, US , who listen.
Haggis, I could not have found a better ending for this one... Case closed.......
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