Receiver or Motor?

[easily confused]

I decided to get brave or crazy, today, and using Costa's list I went hunting with my 39". I managed to find SatMex at 113 ut for some reason couldn't find 116. I then decided to see if I could go east of the 63 that I had already found. Lo and behold I found 30W with 76% Q almost immediately, saved the position and scanned. Got a load of channels and then proceeded to try for the 15W. Well, that may not happen as I have discovered that my BUD appears to be in the way. When I tried to go back to 30W, the dish went nowhere so I set it on 83W and the dish went there right away. I then tried to go to 63W and nothing. Now I have noticed that this receiver sometimes will drop a satellite from the saved list. If I go to the main sat menu and call it up, it will then go to the proper position. Does this indicate a problem with the receiver? I am using a cw700s. I must admit that I am somewhat surprised that I can scan from 30W to 113W with only a 39" dish.

[Timetripper]

Hi, I have not owned a CW but have lots of experience with CS & nfusion units on motors.
You didn't state if you are using Usals or disqc 1.2 to lock onto the stats with the motor, in my experience with
the Usals it is a bit flakey in that it will work fine for x amount of the time then it will go goofy out of the blue.
Also Usals is only as good as the original install - i.e. if it wasn't 100% plumb/ aligned for max signal then it
won't get other stats in arc as good as it could.

I find disqc 1.2 much more reliable for day to day use and also to be able to get that last % of signal strenght to the stb.

Sorry if I went OT a bit but thought I would cover it all.

[easily confused]

Not using USALS right now. Using 1.2

[Timetripper]

If you keep on getting dropped sats from list then probably need
to do a factory reset then start scanning sats again.
BTW what motor are you using?

[easily confused]

If you keep on getting dropped sats from list then probably need
to do a factory reset then start scanning sats again.
BTW what motor are you using?

Using a Moteck SG-2100

[Costactc]

I've mentioned before EC on how I factory default my Pansat once in a while as well. To much info seems to do something to an stb. I sometimes save the channel list and reinsert but still have the same problem. My sat positions are saved on positioners, so I don't mind a factory default because I get to start all over again.
It's probably your stb, not your motor JMO.

[easily confused]

I've mentioned before EC on how I factory default my Pansat once in a while as well. To much info seems to do something to an stb. I sometimes save the channel list and reinsert but still have the same problem. My sat positions are saved on positioners, so I don't mind a factory default because I get to start all over again.
It's probably your stb, not your motor JMO.

Well, my friend, I do believe you are right and just about now I am considering readjusting the two cw's with a sledge hammer. I swapped the one I was using yesterday with the other one, did a factory default and set about hunting. Well, to make long story short, When almost done I am scanning from 30W to 127W with my 39" dish and getting good %Q. I then set about one more try at 15W. A few minutes later and I have it. Just then the stinkin' receiver locks up and I have no control of it, so I save the position, turn it off and back on from the back. Now when I ask it to go to most of the saved sat positions, the stupid thing just sits there. To add to my frustration, this one is also dropping saved channels as did the other one. I can scan 83W, go off to another sat and when I come back to 83, RTN west is always gone

[Costactc]

Sounds like a factory default is in order, start over again and rescan- who knows what other channels you might pick up, that's the fun of it EC.

[easily confused]

Sounds like a factory default is in order, start over again and rescan- who knows what other channels you might pick up, that's the fun of it EC.

That is what was so infuriating. I did a factory default before I started. All went great and even got a PBS channels on 127W It all went in the toilet after I found 15 and the receiver locked up. Maybe I will start all over again tomorrow and see if it goes any better.

[Costactc]

Don't give up EC, out of curiosity what signal quality did you have on Telstar 12 at 15w?

[easily confused]

Don't give up EC, out of curiosity what signal quality did you have on Telstar 12 at 15w?

Only had 18% Q when I found it and after a factory default, again, I have not found it today. Lots of Q (80%) on 30W. Still having the same issue with sats. No matter how many times I save 30W or 127W, the dish does not move, at all, when I call for either of them. It moves fine to everything from 63 to 125 but simply plays dumb for 30 or 127. I am heading back to see if I can locate the 15W again

[Costactc]

Your stb should be doing it, simple motor function. If your motor goes to all other sats, probably an stb problem. Why don't you just go to 30w and move it manually to 15w and visa versa on the other end of your arc for the pbs channels.

[easily confused]

Your stb should be doing it, simple motor function. If your motor goes to all other sats, probably an stb problem. Why don't you just go to 30w and move it manually to 15w and visa versa on the other end of your arc for the pbs channels.

That's pretty much what I have decided I will have to do. If I want to watch, or check out 30W I will have to go to 63W and drive east using the remote and if I want 127W I will have to go to 125W and then drive it from there. Kind of strange that both cw700s receivers are doing that

[sneerboy]

I feel your pain, as I too have cw's.

I find (with usals) the receiver drops whole satellites (not in menu) when I have more than 15 sats.

Unselected favorite channels appear in the list, and cannot be deleted.

The receiver refuses to go to 87 unless I go to the menu.

Try to add a satellite the the list and it always is east instead of west, no matter what you try.

I have tried the factory bins and several others and have come to one conclusion: Crappy receiver. :)

I have some workarounds, but an axe looks more appealing each time I have to load a channel list to see what's on PBS. :D

[Costactc]

Obviously, cw stb are to be avoided for major motor setups using usals or diseqc- always found pansat and coolsat are the best.

[easily confused]

Obviously, cw stb are to be avoided for major motor setups using usals or diseqc- always found pansat and coolsat are the best.

Blind scan is desperately slow, although it does a pretty effective job most of the time. As Sneerboy says, drops sats at will and channels can disappear without warning. Have not had the problem with dropped sats, with our CS8000, but unfortunately no blind scan. Still doesn't make sense, too me, that I can find 30W and 127W, save them but the cw simply refuses to store those two positions. Oh well, gives me an excuse to look at other receivers. If everything worked perfectly I wouldn't need anything else, now, would I?

[TurboPirate]

Blind scan is desperately slow, although it does a pretty effective job most of the time. As Sneerboy says, drops sats at will and channels can disappear without warning. Have not had the problem with dropped sats, with our CS8000, but unfortunately no blind scan. Still doesn't make sense, too me, that I can find 30W and 127W, save them but the cw simply refuses to store those two positions. Oh well, gives me an excuse to look at other receivers. If everything worked perfectly I wouldn't need anything else, now, would I?

I have tested CW for a while now, few models to be exact, but CW Blind Scan doesn't work for me, let me tell you about a set up problem I had last year, it wasn't motor set up but this is what happened, I found with sat finder sat 30west Hispasat, but CW didn't show me any quality, I did Blind Scan and nothing found, did Skew and lots of stuff nothing, I removed the CW and installed SV4000, did the settings and quality showed UP nicely, I did blind scan and found all the working TP's in Hispasat, then I had to enter all the TP's found by SV4k to CW manually and still no quality, when I change all the FEC to auto then CW gave me quality and scan all the working channels, I don't trust CW in blind scan feature, the only thing I trust in CW is when I am aiming to sat 61west AMZ. Why? because sat AMZ 61w enters weak here in PR and of all the receivers with AMZ support, CW is the one that shows more quality% then others, other then that I use SV4000 and Pansat 3500 for aiming.

[easily confused]

I have tested CW for a while now, few models to be exact, but CW Blind Scan doesn't work for me, let me tell you about a set up problem I had last year, it wasn't motor set up but this is what happened, I found with sat finder sat 30west Hispasat, but CW didn't show me any quality, I did Blind Scan and nothing found, did Skew and lots of stuff nothing, I removed the CW and installed SV4000, did the settings and quality showed UP nicely, I did blind scan and found all the working TP's in Hispasat, then I had to enter all the TP's found by SV4k to CW manually and still no quality, when I change all the FEC to auto then CW gave me quality and scan all the working channels, I don't trust CW in blind scan feature, the only thing I trust in CW is when I am aiming to sat 61west AMZ. Why? because sat AMZ 61w enters weak here in PR and of all the receivers with AMZ support, CW is the one that shows more quality% then others, other then that I use SV4000 and Pansat 3500 for aiming.

That is strange Turbo, I have not had that much problem with the blind scan but I have found that if I make sure the fec is on auto then it is good but painfully slow. You're right, if not on auto it tends to miss the tp's although I did pull in, with good Q 30W to 127W and blind scan did find a lot. Not sure if it got everything but I cheated in that I had already entered most of the tp's that Costa had provided in his thread about his arc 2. All of them were entered with fec on auto so that is probably why it worked quite well.

[TurboPirate]

All of them were entered with fec on auto so that is probably why it worked quite well.

That is how I notice CW works best, with FEC on AUTO. after that is a good receiver.........................

[Costactc]

EC, if you can find an old Pansat 2500 or 2700, you'd be in blindscanning heaven. I know alot of people still have them lying around, probably real cheap.

[easily confused]

EC, if you can find an old Pansat 2500 or 2700, you'd be in blindscanning heaven. I know alot of people still have them lying around, probably real cheap.

I will be watching to see what I can find. Hopefully yard sales will yield something. Lots of receivers on e*ay, many of which I have never even heard of

[Costactc]

Yard sales galore here in Cornwall, I'll be keeping my eyes open.

[easily confused]

Yard sales galore here in Cornwall, I'll be keeping my eyes open.

Probably more yard sales in Cornwall, on one weekend, than there are here in the whole summer. Saw a pansat in a garbage can yesterday, in my sons garage but when I picked it up there seemed to be far to many pieces that were moving around inside. I don't think there should be moving parts:no:. Turns out his brother-in-law threw it there a while back. Hopefully something will turn up. Maybe I'll have to take a 45 minute drive some weekend and scoop out Cornwall

[Costactc]

Give me a call EC and we'll go together, I could use another blindscanner with my 6' solid since my son has my cs6k in bedroom with r-link.