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cmangle
08-06-2015, 04:18 PM
all the Encores(342,341 etc) have zero signal strength!

satellite swap in affect? 110-119-129 bowing out to 61.5-72.7-77?

gAsH
08-06-2015, 04:20 PM
Keep reading.. you are soo close to the answer. lol http://www.satfix.net/showthread.php?185942-Isn-t-this-FTA-D-Day&p=1164666#post1164666 mpeg2 to mpeg4 switcharoo

cmangle
08-06-2015, 04:20 PM
or is it transponder change?

if its transponder change shouldn't my receiver (Dreamlink T5) update automatically?

frost
08-06-2015, 04:25 PM
fresh re-scan will help

gAsH
08-06-2015, 04:27 PM
fresh re-scan will help

Will not get back picture tho, problem is on both ends. Providers must make changes before any picture comes back. You WILL get signal again if u make TP changes tho. I hear there may be some issue with being able to supply all the channels in mpeg4 so it may not be a quick fix. time will tell

teamwork000
08-06-2015, 04:29 PM
Transponder Changes seen 8/6/15 at 3:00am ET (v02)

Transponders Changed
110° TP 1 changed from SR: 20000 7/8 FEC QPSK to SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK
110° TP 11 changed from SR: 20000 7/8 FEC QPSK to SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK
110° TP 14 changed from SR: 20000 7/8 FEC QPSK to SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK
110° TP 15 changed from SR: 20000 7/8 FEC QPSK to SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK
110° TP 2 changed from SR: 20000 7/8 FEC QPSK to SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK
110° TP 24 changed from SR: 20000 7/8 FEC QPSK to SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK
110° TP 3 changed from SR: 20000 7/8 FEC QPSK to SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK
110° TP 5 changed from SR: 20000 7/8 FEC QPSK to SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK
110° TP 6 changed from SR: 20000 7/8 FEC QPSK to SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK
110° TP 8 changed from SR: 20000 7/8 FEC QPSK to SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK
110° TP 9 changed from SR: 20000 7/8 FEC QPSK to SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK

haggis
08-06-2015, 04:39 PM
fresh re-scan will helpfrost, I just tried the rescan, I took the limey, out of the closet, hooked it up, and rescanned, just to see what happened, , before, mm, maybe 500 600 channels , not to say they worked, ok, rescan 187, that is it, so I think, teamwork, and Gash, oops, excuse my grammar. Did I spell that correct?? Anyway, If you have the thing going on the SD maybe??don't rescan. I just put the limey, SD on, to check, just reporting.

gAsH
08-06-2015, 04:43 PM
frost, I just tried the rescan, I took the limey, out of the closet, hooked it up, and rescanned, just to see what happened, , before, mm, maybe 500 600 channels , not to say they worked, ok, rescan 187, that is it, so I think, as the NOS., has always predicting, hi, NOSTRADAMUS// RIGHT/? here we go,, Him and myself, go way back, ok, he is a shrewd person, watches all this stuff. gAsh, he was right, in what he said, time is up// BUT NOT JUST YET/// oops, excuse my grammar. Did I spell that correct?? Anyway, If you have the thing going on the SD maybe??don't rescan. I just put the limey, SD on, to check, just reporting.

This change has been planned since early last year and is slowly being implemented. It seems people are getting confused with "anyCast" which is predicted to be the end of iks for the south when it goes active. Then there is this current issue which has nothing to do with anyCast. This is the switch from mpeg2 to mpeg4, simple as that. It requires some changes from both you and the providers but there are complications for the providers to make these changes.

sunfire19
08-06-2015, 04:44 PM
if you have hd you will be fine sd not so much

haggis
08-06-2015, 04:48 PM
This change has been planned since early last year and is slowly being implemented. It seems people are getting confused with "anyCast" which is predicted to be the end of iks for the south when it goes active. Then there is this current issue which has nothing to do with anyCast. This is the switch from mpeg2 to mpeg4, simple as that. It requires some changes from both you and the providers but there are complications for the providers to make these changes.

BIG THANKS, gAsh, yes, we have heard of it for ages, you seem, to know what it is all about, and as , have been predicted for ages, it is here, at last. Thanks .

mechanicman
08-06-2015, 04:55 PM
if you have hd you will be fine sd not so much

if it would be fine then people with HD boxes would have those SD channels working......i dont think it will be fine..
unless you mean those who have the channels already in HD

sunfire19
08-06-2015, 05:09 PM
Mine was all on the new MPEG 4 ones but I see they went down so they must be working on things

haggis
08-06-2015, 05:15 PM
SO sunfire, are you saying no matter, whether SD or HD , IT DOES NOT MATTER?? THEY ARE DOWN, ANYWAY?? Thanks.

sunfire19
08-06-2015, 05:19 PM
You don't have to yell at me for saying a point don't get cranky cause you lost your tv thanks

Terryl
08-06-2015, 05:24 PM
Lets play nice in the sandbox kids.......

Condor
08-06-2015, 05:42 PM
Lets play nice in the sandbox kids.......

As Terryl states take a deep breath fellows... Sometimes I even put CAPS on by mistake.. Reason I bring this up is he did say 'thank you' at the end of his question...

Edit.. Actually now that I see haggis is known for yelling a lot... Lol.. Take it slow my friend..

jamesterr
08-06-2015, 05:50 PM
What's this mean we will have to switch the 110 an 119 to 61.5/72.7/77 ?

iq180
08-06-2015, 05:54 PM
If you have an HD receiver that can do turbo FEC, all you can do is change your TP settings and hope that the iks provider can
recover from this.
If you don't have a receiver that can do turbo FEC I will say this, don't buy one at this time, see if the iks boys can recover from
this,JMO.

iq180
08-06-2015, 05:59 PM
What's this mean we will have to switch the 110 an 119 to 61.5/72.7/77 ?
Now what good would that do, switching from 1 set of turbo FEC sats to another set.

sunfire19
08-06-2015, 06:09 PM
So what is the issue on there end would they not already have the new receivers to pick this up it was up on my end but it went back down again?

frost
08-06-2015, 06:26 PM
an option in the receiver as a"auto TP" should mean something, it have to be turned ON

Conetech
08-06-2015, 08:33 PM
my Neighbours DLHD wasn't scanning them and showed only 200 or so channels on 110, so went into Manual Scan and changed the frequency on all transponders that weren't working to 21.500 Ms/s symbol rate (note there is no indication that you can change this with selection arrows, so change that field to Orange with the up down controls and then type in 21500 with numeric keypad on remote) then go down to Tranmission (ya that's how they spell it) and select TURBO 8PSK.

Good Luck Testing
Conetech

weezer
08-06-2015, 08:50 PM
should be moved from rumor section now lol rescanned on hd receiver didnt work

burnsy
08-06-2015, 09:10 PM
Maybe try the grammar and spelling section next - like I should talk lol

haggis
08-06-2015, 10:00 PM
You don't have to yell at me for saying a point don't get cranky cause you lost your tv thanks

oh oh. SORRY, DID not mean that, oops, I was just asking, oops///

weezer
08-06-2015, 10:01 PM
Maybe try the grammar and spelling section next - like I should talk lol

there i fixed it for you burnsy so you should be able to understand it or not lol

haggis
08-06-2015, 10:04 PM
As Terryl states take a deep breath fellows... Sometimes I even put CAPS on by mistake.. Reason I bring this up is he did say 'thank you' at the end of his question...

Edit.. Actually now that I see haggis is known for yelling a lot... Lol.. Take it slow my friend..

OOPS AGAIN, Condor, HONESTLY, I did not even think of that, yelling, SORRY// YES, I better look at the CAPS THING, I did not realise, honestly, I SWEAR, that if you have the caps on, that you are shouting, SORRY all, genuine.WILL watch it from now on. ok.

gwrowe
08-07-2015, 03:32 PM
OK Guy's DN didn't change the sat's and send them to 61.5 or 77 etc., they just changed TP freq. from 20000 to 21500 for Mpeg 4 format meaning, the TPs are HD, those people that have just SD will no longer be able to use them, 110 has just been changed over and 119 will follow apparently, If the coders can get things working again, everyone who has a SD stb will have to get a HD stb, sd stb's are not capable of of HD programming.

snapp
08-07-2015, 05:49 PM
How about the DLT4. will it work?

nobodyspecial
08-07-2015, 06:59 PM
How about the DLT4. will it work?

I had to install the hd module for it to scan the 110 channels

iq180
08-07-2015, 09:33 PM
OK Guy's DN didn't change the sat's and send them to 61.5 or 77 etc., they just changed TP freq. from 20000 to 21500 for Mpeg 4 format meaning, the TPs are HD, those people that have just SD will no longer be able to use them, 110 has just been changed over and 119 will follow apparently, If the coders can get things working again, everyone who has a SD stb will have to get a HD stb, sd stb's are not capable of of HD programming.
It has started on 119,I found 1 TP today that changed from 20000 to 21500.

cmangle
08-08-2015, 04:28 PM
So general consensus is . . . a change from 20000 f/s to 21500 f/s and Qpsk to 8psk (or is it Turbo FEC?)

on all xpndrs or just some and has it started on 119 already?

cmangle
08-08-2015, 04:32 PM
So Dreamlink T5 will not AUTO TP update these changes correct?

Midnight Rider
08-08-2015, 05:08 PM
So Dreamlink T5 will not AUTO TP update these changes correct? most receivers will automatically update the Transponders ,very simple use your remote with the box on ,turn the receiver off using the remote you will see the clock wait a few seconds it will show a TP upgrade in progress then use the remote turn STB back on that's it No rescan is nessesary but can be done if you feel you need to

cmangle
08-09-2015, 03:22 PM
Ok, the Dreamlink T5, after deleting all channels and then rescanning (with auto TP on) found all the new, updated 21.500 sr and TURBO 8PSK, channels but they will not TEST!

I'm assuming new control words from the updated TP's are required to TEST!

nobodyspecial
08-09-2015, 03:40 PM
Ok, the Dreamlink T5, after deleting all channels and then rescanning (with auto TP on) found all the new, updated 21.500 sr and TURBO 8PSK, channels but they will not TEST!

I'm assuming new control words from the updated TP's are required to TEST!

check other channels there are lots working

cmangle
08-09-2015, 04:16 PM
ok thanks nobody, not home at the moment will do when i get in . .

I'm out you know the sunday drive, dad's cigar choking you, one of your brothers farted . .etc

typical sunday

wait that was 40 years ago . . . alzheimers this early?

Conetech
08-09-2015, 04:35 PM
Go to channel 201 NOTAX to test you've set up your unit correctly. It's an open channel on 110W

XP7051V3
08-09-2015, 05:34 PM
Just to make it clear.

1) DN has switched to T-8PSK and NOT 8PSK. They have done this because T-8PSK grants them more bandwidth. This will allow DN to provide more HD channels on the same transponders. T-8PSK is proprietary and developed by EchoStar Communications.

2) Auto TP update will not adjust the TP from QPSK to T-8PSK nor will it adjust the symbol rate. This must be done manually. However, any TP changes within these new specs will trigger the AutoTP feature provided in the bin files. The latter does not apply to any Limesat HD or nFusion HD STB's because they have a broken AutoTP feature. Sonicview, Viewsat, DreamLink are confirmed to have the TP update feature working.

3) DreamLink T4 requires a T-8PSK module (DL100) in order to operate hereinafter.

4) You should pay extra attention to the thermals of your STB now that the T-8PSK is operating full-time. Keeping it in a cool place, out of media cabinets and purchasing netbook/notebook coolers powered via USB is a solid idea. Some devices like the DreamLink HD T4 T5 and Limesat HD and HD Air keep the T-8PSK on even when powered off. This generates a ton of excess heat when NOT in use. Please keep this in mind.

nobodyspecial
08-09-2015, 07:06 PM
No,it does'nt have to be done manually with a Dreamlink.A fresh scan picked up all the new tps

anurag123
08-16-2015, 04:03 PM
Hey friends. Will 118 also follow suit?

mocksat346
08-16-2015, 06:25 PM
yes but for now check 120 122 to 139 up enjoy for now