what happens to 118.7 ???

[mpjassal]

I've notice all the channels on 118.7 stop working out of the sudden. As per my friend's suggestion Ive scanned the 121w to get back the 118.7 channels,which I received it.

But now a half of the channels are working and rest half not. If i have one channels working now and i try back the same channel after 1 min it don't work.

Anyone can pls clear me if it is IKS issue, dreamlink, or lnb. ? ? ?


TIA

[mpjassal]

Any help will be appriciated.

[Panathas]

You care to elaborate more about the sat 121W what kind of channels did you get there? Intl channels that were on 118.7 you scanned and got them working on 121 ? How was that possible are these channels on that satellite? And if they are what setting you used to scan was the Echostar 9/K it only shows 6 transponders there.

[abouttosnap]

I've notice all the channels on 118.7 stop working out of the sudden. As per my friend's suggestion Ive scanned the 121w to get back the 118.7 channels,which I received it.

But now a half of the channels are working and rest half not. If i have one channels working now and i try back the same channel after 1 min it don't work.

Anyone can pls clear me if it is IKS issue, dreamlink, or lnb. ? ? ?


TIA



Not sure why you were told to scan 121 but at any rate check the link below in post 4 and you will see the tp info for 118. If you are getting Q and S on those tp's then it is either they are down and or not up on your service. I know the other day some were up and some were down.

http://www.satfix.to/showthread.php?191165-Transponder-changes

[Panathas]

So does this mean if we scan 121W we can't get the channels on 118.7 as was suggested?

[abouttosnap]

Nope...121 requires a linear lnb plus there is nothing on there viewable. 118 requires a low freq. lnb. One will not work for the other or visa versa.

[Panathas]

Ok as you said they are different that's what i thought also. Only thing i noticed is that when go to menu installation and go to sat 121W Echostar 9/K it shows LNB1 freq has Universal 9750-10750 has 6 transponers and on top it locks into sat 118 west. How does that happen? Maybe it picks up the 118 settings with this set up somehow and it catches 118 channels in a different way ?

[abouttosnap]

Okay I haven't paid much attention to 121w in a while but after looking as jameslong looks as if they made some changes to the tp's and or freq. from a while back. So that being said it maybe possible to pickup Q and S off a certain tp listed under that satellite but and again there is nothing veiwable nor are any of the channels off 118 on the 121. I order to be on the 121 you would either have to physically move and adjust a fixed dish or if you have a motor move over to that position. Below is one tp now listed under 121 per jameslong...one and the same that is also listed under 119 but none off 118. Again I have not moved my motor over to 121w in a long time...haven't seen the need seeing there is nothing there to view.

121° TP 15 121.0W 12.42812 R SR: 20000 3/4 FEC QPSK DVB-S

**Update**
Just for fun I added the below tp info from the listing off jameslong into my Mega and rolled over to 121w...this tp has the you are pointed to d**h 121 test channel on it. But never could lock any Q and S off this tp so I can only assume these tp's still require a linear lnb. The lnb I have mounted on my dish is a 118/119 dual lnb. Maybe sometime in the near future I'll mount my linear lnb and see what I get.

121° TP 21 121.0W 12.51560 R SR: 20000 3/4 FEC QPSK DVB-S

[Panathas]

Ok thanks for the info,as you say 121 has nothing to watch. I think what mpjassal was implying above is that by scanning while on 121 you are actually scanning the 118.7 when set to the assigned port for 118.7 but even if that happens he would still get the same channels as we get when we scan when on the 118.7 or get nothing,not really scanning 121 that way.
So i don't see how they would work as he says just because you are scanning them through 121 sat,if they really did work abouttosnap would have known about it already.

[Panathas]

Sounds good abouttosnap whenever you get to try it let us know :thumbsup:

[mpjassal]

Let me clear all of you

we are might using the different satellite boxes .I have DL T5 and using the older file (Dreamlink_T5_0104_0824P) and satellite 121 has 33 TPs , all same as 118.7
And as I previously said I have atleat 40% of the channels are working. No issue with signal or quality at all.
Haven't made any changes to dish at all

[Panathas]

mjpassal i don't see the same transponders on 121 that 118.7 has but i think when you are on sat 121 you are just picking up the settings from the 118.7 the FTA boxes do that,so in reality you are scanning the 118.7 sat because as abouttosnap said there is nothing much on 121W.
Also are you using the same port on switch for the 118.7 and the 121 if so then it picks up 118.7 if you look up on top in the scan menu you will see which sat is locked on to. We have different sat boxes but should show that.
But anyway give us more info about the setup, which 121 you scan there are two the 9/C and the 9/K also what LNB freq you used and what channels you are picking up just to see.

[abouttosnap]

The information below would be the same regardless of the stb. For example in order to lock on with Q & S and scan the 118 whether I used my sonicview which was made back in 2008 and my Mega which was made in 2014 the info would be the same as it stands now...end of story. If you are getting Q & S, have scanned in and or viewing you are locked on to the 118 regardless. No other satellite to my knowledge shares this info nor requires this type of low freq. lnb. These stb's have no logic per say or in other words they will only scan what they are pointed at regardless. That being said it would also need the correct tp info to scan in all viewable chs. on said satellite. Another example...if I setup a fixed dish and thought I had it pointed to 110 but was actually pointed at the 119 that is the satellite I would be scanning even though in the stb it would be showing as 110. Now 110 and 119 do not share all of the same tp's but enough that they could be scanned in incorrectly. That is the reason it is a good idea to learn some of the info posted on jameslong and or lyngsat in regard to the conus tp's. Both 110 and 119 share the same tp6 info...12.296 H SR: 21500 2/3 FEC 8PSK DVB-S so these two could be easily scanned in for one and not the other.

I could go as far as to rename a satellite in the list to jellybean in the stb and it would only scan in what I was pointed at plus having some of the correct tp info listed. A little different deal with a motor and usals but I still could rename a satellite and it would still go to a certain position unless I changed that as well. Maybe I explained this good enough...kinda hard to include everything in when typing.

TP *1 - 118 11714 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP *2 - 118 11727 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP *3 - 118 11745 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP *4 - 118 11758 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP *5 - 118 11775 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP *6 - 118 11788 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP *7 - 118 11806 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP *8 - 118 11819 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP *9 - 118 11836 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 10 - 118 11849 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 11 - 118 11867 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 12 - 118 11880 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 13 - 118 11897 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 14 - 118 11910 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 15 - 118 11958 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 16 - 118 11941 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 17 - 118 11958 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 18 - 118 11971 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 19 - 118 11989 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 20 - 118 12002 H 20000 3/4 QPSk
TP 21 - 118 12019 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 22 - 118 12032 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 23 - 118 12050 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 24 - 118 12063 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 25 - 118 12080 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 26 - 118 12093 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 27 - 118 12111 V 20000 3/4 QPSk
TP 28 - 118 12124 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 29 - 118 12141 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 30 - 118 12154 H 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 31 - 118 12172 V 20000 3/4 QPSK
TP 32 - 118 12185 H 20000 3/4 QPSk

[Panathas]

Yes that is quite informative so i understand how this works very well.