When supposibly nice guys , take care of your money

[Canam]

Took your money and others , without notice , and yonder into the sunset . They will re-appear eventually under a different name , as re-sellers , etc , just to come and see the damage , that they created , and the suckers , that we are . They could , as least PM theirs customers , before pulling the switch . They seem , nice , upfront , but ............................

[freereign]

ya I know > all resella is yella
Name changes /im aware now

[MAD]

If hes a smart reseller he won't keep any of your contact info for security reasons. Everyone knows its a gamble playing this game. Just have to suck it up and move on.

[bigbro]

No honor among any of us thieves.

[northernshore]

we've all been burned b4..cmex was good for a yr ..i had just spent ahun an quartr.to renew.vanilla less then a mnth..bye bye,for 3 hours watch time,lol...saylaV..

[wheresmystuff]

You are paying for an illegal service with all liability and risk on the reseller.
Don't complain about losing money and how they should tell you or warn you. You should know the risks associated with iks.

If you were to put a bet with a bookie and lose would you complain about losing money.

Getting tired reading threads and posts like this. Suck it up.

[Canam]

You are paying for an illegal service with all liability and risk on the reseller.
Don't complain about losing money and how they should tell you or warn you. You should know the risks associated with iks.

If you were to put a bet with a bookie and lose would you complain about losing money.

Getting tired reading threads and posts like this. Suck it up.

Like it or not , just like tv , turn the dial , I just hope that those thieves , rechonize themselves .............

[The Noof]

This has been "the game" since the F card...as long as the game is played, it will be this way:you pay your money & take your chances.
The part that bothers me the most is the whining that satellite signal thieves do when they feel they have been deceived....almost to the point of hilarity.
STFU I say.

[johnnylarue]

This has been "the game" since the F card...as long as the game is played, it will be this way:you pay your money & take your chances.
The part that bothers me the most is the whining that satellite signal thieves do when they feel they have been deceived....almost to the point of hilarity.
STFU I say.

I remember my cousin paying $700 for an F card. He bought it from Ted Edmonds, the original piracy king in Canada. That card never farted for a few years.

[The Noof]

I remember my cousin paying $700 for an F card. He bought it from Ted Edmonds, the original piracy king in Canada. That card never farted for a few years.
And that's how we got here bro...the good old dayz.lol

[johnnylarue]

And that's how we got here bro...the good old dayz.lol
Those WERE good old days in sat! lol

[panthere]

I miss the good old days or it was free , with the coming of the n3 the cardsharing is came.in the beginning people were honest but now ...

[The Noof]

Those WERE good old days in sat! lol
Yessir...I think my greatest testing moment was the fist time I got PGM's H card emu software to run...thought I was in heaven.lol

[The Noof]

I miss the good old days or it was free , with the coming of the n3 the cardsharing is came.in the beginning people were honest but now ...

There's that "honest" word again.lol

[jake the snake]

l was better off with my 10 ft. dish back in the day.

[panthere]

There's that "honest" word again.lol

sadly loll

[Blazerbong]

What bothers me is that I have been ripped off so many times that I don't know if I will give it another try.If everything goes dark for all Servers I could understand, but when only several are closing at times and then start operating on a different Name to probably close later its a scam.I do miss the days of my BUD!
An example of what is happening is like small drug dealers getting robbed by thugs.We are easy targets without any recourse.

[Open Sky]

Back in the Videocipher days, most transactions were done face to face and things were "more honest". Now with the anonymity of the Internet, it is much easier to take the money and run.

[jake the snake]

[QUOTE=Open Sky;1199349]Back in the Videocipher days, most transactions were done face to face and things were "more honest". Now with the anonymity of the Internet, it is much easier to take the money and run.[/

you hit the nail right on the head Sky

[Anubis]

l was better off with my 10 ft. dish back in the day.
If you still have that bud you could be back in business with the recent developments that have taken place.

[Canam]

A 10 ft dish .............. Probably good to plant flowers ;)

[Anubis]

There's more than planting flowers in one going on. Trust me.

[dukeathome]

dont spend more than you can afford to lose

[johnnylarue]

Yessir...I think my greatest testing moment was the fist time I got PGM's H card emu software to run...thought I was in heaven.lol

You are one of the REAL testers. That was above my level. I knew a guy who did emu and it rarely was down. It was probably the most reliable method, along with the nozkt mod on the 420 and 222's. That NEVER went down. I remember when they were blacklisting bins by the thousands every day, and everyone was getting the 'call ext744 or 745", I did not even know anything bad was happening.

[The Noof]

You are one of the REAL testers. That was above my level. I knew a guy who did emu and it rarely was down. It was probably the most reliable method, along with the nozkt mod on the 420 and 222's. That NEVER went down. I remember when they were blacklisting bins by the thousands every day, and everyone was getting the 'call ext744 or 745", I did not even know anything bad was happening.

Zero knowledge test...no 745 woes.Did many on rca's.

[jake the snake]

If you still have that bud you could be back in business with the recent developments that have taken place.

l wish l did now

[johnnylarue]

Zero knowledge test...no 745 woes.Did many on rca's.

That mod ended their bin begging for good. ;)

[haha11]

I am still not over with this. Mods keep closing the discussion threads and all they say is they are gone....
I am sure they probably know the real reason. We are the ones who lost our money so why can't we know the reason for this?

Why would they wanna just go black all of the sudden when other servers didnt have any problem? Could it be cause they gathered enough money to run away?
Cmex always mentioned, I m a reseller, he buys in quantity and sells to us....and hes gone in dark too...why man???

[freereign]

Who is honest anymore the few the proud.
Dishonesty has karma > I have seen it happen and you will not escape it.
You beg for forgiveness but Karma does not care . What comes around goes around

[abouttosnap]

I am still not over with this. Mods keep closing the discussion threads and all they say is they are gone....
I am sure they probably know the real reason. We are the ones who lost our money so why can't we know the reason for this?

Why would they wanna just go black all of the sudden when other servers didnt have any problem? Could it be cause they gathered enough money to run away?
Cmex always mentioned, I m a reseller, he buys in quantity and sells to us....and hes gone in dark too...why man???

Can't speak for others and as I have said before...I owe no one nothing. As to what get closes and stays open that is a staff call read the site rules. What I have done I have done because I wanted to not because I had to. I have always enjoyed messing around with the stuff and hopefully helping out others along the way. As to services coming and going everyone knows that up front it has always been a game of chance so no one can say they didn't. You can't go out and buy a tv out of the back of a van in a parking lot for a quarter of the price and then come back later on to complain because it doesn't work or work properly. To put it blunt if one does they are just plain dumb a** and are an idiot. As to what does and doesn't get said that is also a staff call. No one here has anything to do with services/donations. That is something that goes on between seller and member and is done via pm. And again can't speak for other's but for my part there are things I will say and things I won't say out in open forum. Number one for somethings it would be just plain stupid to do so seeing this is a open board. Second if I'am entrusted with certain things and I just blurt it out in open then my credibility is shot. I mean really do you think you are the only one that has lost money over the years on some of this? Not that I want anyones d**n sympathy but have you ever consider being a staff member has it own risks? Bottom line everyone comes into this with eyes wide open and our responsible for there own actions and doing there own research.

This thread is still open isn't it? Some need to give their head a shake. No one owes no one nothing or explanation of anything.

[Anubis]

I am still not over with this. Mods keep closing the discussion threads and all they say is they are gone....
I am sure they probably know the real reason. We are the ones who lost our money so why can't we know the reason for this?

Why would they wanna just go black all of the sudden when other servers didnt have any problem? Could it be cause they gathered enough money to run away?
Cmex always mentioned, I m a reseller, he buys in quantity and sells to us....and hes gone in dark too...why man???
Be thankful that the small sum of what you paid for service was all you lost and are not going to get a demand letter! We will leave it at that.

[samson]

he was a reseller right. if he was paying his bill we would have tv till our time was up!

[nobodyspecial]

he was a reseller right. if he was paying his bill we would have tv till our time was up!

are you thick? They shut down the server that fed him

[Open Sky]

I am still not over with this. Mods keep closing the discussion threads and all they say is they are gone....
I am sure they probably know the real reason. We are the ones who lost our money so why can't we know the reason for this?

Why would they wanna just go black all of the sudden when other servers didnt have any problem? Could it be cause they gathered enough money to run away?
Cmex always mentioned, I m a reseller, he buys in quantity and sells to us....and hes gone in dark too...why man???

I agree, what is the harm of letting people discuss what happened around these shutdowns? A guy makes a donation and a week later his service is permanently gone. Don't you think the guy is entitled to ask some questions about what happened? Yes, nothing can be done but people might like do some research before going with a new provider. Immediately locking the thread accomplishes nothing.

[abouttosnap]

I agree, what is the harm of letting people discuss what happened around these shutdowns? A guy makes a donation and a week later his service is permanently gone. Don't you think the guy is entitled to ask some questions about what happened? Yes, nothing can be done but people might like do some research before going with a new provider. Immediately locking the thread accomplishes nothing.

It's okay to discuss but we are not going to have things popping up all over the board because some won't search and read. If they do they are going to get closed and referred to threads already started on the subject plain and simple.

[samson]

I had guys get out of it. still had tv till my time was up...

[booter]

For everyone who has had a negative experience with this hobby lately, try a positive experience with Quantium! Highly Recommended.
Booter

[tubbs]

Dealers just don't take your money and disappear. this guy took my money about 3 or so years ago, but he is still in business.
I would have at least liked an explanation from him why 100's of his subs went dead, yet he was back up a month later selling again.

hxxp://wvw.nfXsXksdoXXtXon.con/man

[freggie]

Dealers just don't take your money and disappear. this guy took my money about 3 or so years ago, but he is still in business.
I would have at least liked an explanation from him why 100's of his subs went dead, yet he was back up a month later selling again.

hxxp://wvw.nfXsXksdoXXtXon.con/man

Must be the same guy who said "it costs a lot to have free TV"

[jets]

I remember those days. I remember rummaging around in a basement of a house looking for parts for an old cband receiver and the guy giving me a good deal :)


Back in the Videocipher days, most transactions were done face to face and things were "more honest". Now with the anonymity of the Internet, it is much easier to take the money and run.

[jets]

Maybe just maybe the plug got pulled to protect themselves (as all would do) and also you the end user... before you get a letter or email, but who knows really:comfort1:

[Anubis]

Maybe just maybe the plug got pulled to protect themselves (as all would do) and also you the end user... before you get a letter or email, but who knows really:comfort1:
Wow!!!!! Somebody gets some of the subtle hints as mentioned a few times such as post 31 in this thread.

[jake the snake]

looks like time did tell

[Anubis]

I had guys get out of it. still had tv till my time was up...
Because your reseller got out.

[pisici]

what happen with cmex .I lost .What can I do

[jeldf]

what happen with cmex .I lost .What can I do

Did you not read the whole thread or what........or did you just go to the last post? Geeze.
The writing on the wall says 'Gone Out of Business' What can you do? You can buy some tissues! Spill some milk and cry!
I don't mean to be harsh, you can look around but right now, you are SOOL.

[bigbro]

what happen with cmex .I lost .What can I do

Gone. Many did. Nothing.

[Dells]

Well I suppose anyone complaining could just go be a seller and put their assets on the line for some others to have some tv..lol Then if something happens you can make sure to give all the info to the forums and refund everyone.

[Fishbum]

Cmex had a bogo sale, 2 for 1 and offering LIFE TIME north and south deals then the day after his bogo sale was up his server gets unplugged. One needs to have some smarts in regards to resellers and their offers they provide some times..
Don't get suckered into some of these to good to be true offers, be smart.

[kenkell1]

Cmex had a bogo sale, 2 for 1 and offering LIFE TIME north and south deals then the day after his bogo sale was up his server gets unplugged. One needs to have some smarts in regards to resellers and their offers they provide some times..
Don't get suckered into some of these to good to be true offers, be smart.

Ahhh yes......the old Lifetime sub LOL.......yeah that's a good scam to begin with in this hobby.
No one can tell me Cmex didn't know ahead of time the writing was on the wall.....
Ramp up sales as fast as you can and run with the money knowing the server will be unplugged in a day or 2.
Real hero if you ask me....NOT!

[Dells]

Ahhh yes......the old Lifetime sub LOL.......yeah that's a good scam to begin with in this hobby.
No one can tell me Cmex didn't know ahead of time the writing was on the wall.....
Ramp up sales as fast as you can and run with the money knowing the server will be unplugged in a day or 2.
Real hero if you ask me....NOT!

I can tell you I'm sure most of them don't see things coming. That is a statement you could only make if you knew the facts of the situation......and you don't. The rest of us don't either. So before you bash them you should have some facts.

[scooby8888]

lol shi.. i just got one of those bogo deals didn't even put it in lol. oh well its part of the game and cmex did a great job for the time he was here and i did for one get my monies worth out of the ones that didn't go down. If you can't afford to lose a few dollars then this isn't for you, its not the first time my money went missing and it won't be the last its all a game guys live with it or get out of it.

[The Noof]

Ahhh yes......the old Lifetime sub LOL.......yeah that's a good scam to begin with in this hobby.
No one can tell me Cmex didn't know ahead of time the writing was on the wall.....
Ramp up sales as fast as you can and run with the money knowing the server will be unplugged in a day or 2.
Real hero if you ask me....NOT!

Something else on the table though bro:when 3 fall at once, it's a good chance they all sold from the same server.The ones that fell were resellers:it may have been out of their hands.The resellers may have been deceived as well.I'm just giving the benefit of doubt here.Been wrong befeore...lol

[kenkell1]

Something else on the table though bro:when 3 fall at once, it's a good chance they all sold from the same server.The ones that fell were resellers:it may have been out of their hands.The resellers may have been deceived as well.I'm just giving the benefit of doubt here.Been wrong befeore...lol

darn right they all sold from the same server......now they can give refunds for those they easily took the cash from in the first place for those that paid but received nothing. Fair is fair.....but then greed is what has fueled this hobby for several years now.

[The Noof]

darn right they all sold from the same server......now they can give refunds for those they easily took the cash from in the first place for those that paid but received nothing. Fair is fair.....but then greed is what has fueled this hobby for several years now.

No argument there...