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dogdayz
02-03-2017, 05:51 PM
Anyone know of a site where I can download free PDF of Ford service manuals?

bigbadbrother
02-03-2017, 05:55 PM
All ford manuals or for your car/truck?

dogdayz
02-03-2017, 10:09 PM
Ford Expedition and F150.

bigbadbrother
02-03-2017, 11:50 PM
I need the year.

jtpl
02-04-2017, 12:31 AM
If you have a problem i would be happy to help

dogdayz
02-04-2017, 01:08 AM
I need a manual for a 2011 Expedition.

It's getting to the age where something new needs fixing every week. I just changed the rear struts awhile ago and then the timing belt. I need to pull apart the dash to change the A/C blend actuator and see if I can find why the radio display intermittantly disappears. The real biggie is the moonroof seems to be off it's track or something, that will be a big job. I also have a broken manifold stud...

Maybe it's time to get a new truck. :bawl:

bigbadbrother
02-04-2017, 05:44 AM
I found a logon and password for .bscohost. You can find all the info you'll need. Sending a PM for you now.

I don't know how good you are at turning a wrench but the only thing that could be a MF is the broken stud, If it's a iron block it's no big thing but if it's aluminum you may have to have it done.

dogdayz
02-04-2017, 01:34 PM
Yeah, I know that stud is going to be a job drilling it out. The studs are smaller diameter than they used years ago and some always break when you try to remove the manifold.

runamok
02-04-2017, 02:30 PM
I would rather do the stud then mess with the ac blend actuator.If you mean the the flap in the air box that is a job.I went to a salvage yard and took one off a 96 explorer.I took a saws all to make it easy and it wasn't.I ended up cutting a hole in my air box and made a manual lever to move flap.It would have been nice if ford made a way to get there by removing glove box but you can't.

dogdayz
02-04-2017, 03:16 PM
Don't know if you are talking about the same thing - it's part of the dual zone heating/cooling. I know it won't be easy. I hate working on cars now days - everything is so tight and complex.



I would rather do the stud then mess with the ac blend actuator.If you mean the the flap in the air box that is a job.I went to a salvage yard and took one off a 96 explorer.I took a saws all to make it easy and it wasn't.I ended up cutting a hole in my air box and made a manual lever to move flap.It would have been nice if ford made a way to get there by removing glove box but you can't.

Gates07
02-04-2017, 03:23 PM
I thought they quit printing manuals for all vehicles, nobody was buying them any more, the last one i bought was 1994 used it frequently but 2 years ago the car was getting to where it was like a ford (fix & repair daily) so i traded it, any more with all the electronics in a vehicle its just best to take it to a dealer (any how for me) and let them hook up their computer to and let them fix it, besides physically for me its getting getting real hard to do any more.

dogdayz
02-04-2017, 03:39 PM
I have seen manuals for sale on DVD, I'm just trying to get it free :yes:

We must be of the same vintage because I'm getting too stiff and creaky for this kind of work too. Unfortunately the repairs that I need are so labor intensive and not much money for parts so I hate to take it to the dealer and pay thousands just for labor.



I thought they quit printing manuals for all vehicles, nobody was buying them any more, the last one i bought was 1994 used it frequently but 2 years ago the car was getting to where it was like a ford (fix & repair daily) so i traded it, any more with all the electronics in a vehicle its just best to take it to a dealer (any how for me) and let them hook up their computer to and let them fix it, besides physically for me its getting getting real hard to do any more.

runamok
02-04-2017, 03:43 PM
Don't know if you are talking about the same thing - it's part of the dual zone heating/cooling. I know it won't be easy. I hate working on cars now days - everything is so tight and complex.




The flap controls the automatic climate.If you remove inner glove box you can feel the actuator on top of air box but you cannot remove it.You have to remove allot to fix heater coil,ac coil and dash componets.

The Noof
02-04-2017, 04:10 PM
Don't know if you are talking about the same thing - it's part of the dual zone heating/cooling. I know it won't be easy. I hate working on cars now days - everything is so tight and complex.

It seems that all plenums are "dash-out" now.allow 6 or 7 hours at least for most vehicles...some even more.At 61 years old, I still do it for a living.Bending like a slinky is getting harder though.lol.
To the o.p.:I subscribe to alldata online:if there be specifics you need to know, please ask.

The Noof
02-04-2017, 04:11 PM
P.S...what engine in your vehicle?Any of that stud sticking out???

dogdayz
02-04-2017, 04:44 PM
Have not taken a good look yet, I can hear the leak and see a missing nut so I don't know if anything is there to grip yet (nothing showing through the manifold). It's a 5.4 engine.
The new models are using the ecoboost which I would like to have - more power for towing. I also read that Ford may be putting a diesel in them in the next couple years.


P.S...what engine in your vehicle?Any of that stud sticking out???

dogdayz
02-04-2017, 04:48 PM
My priority at the moment is to see drawings for the sunroof assembly. Second priority is the disassembly of the dash. I am not in a rush to fix the manifold, I can live with the leak for now.


It seems that all plenums are "dash-out" now.allow 6 or 7 hours at least for most vehicles...some even more.At 61 years old, I still do it for a living.Bending like a slinky is getting harder though.lol.
To the o.p.:I subscribe to alldata online:if there be specifics you need to know, please ask.

The Noof
02-04-2017, 04:48 PM
Have not taken a good look yet, I can hear the leak and see a missing nut so I don't know if anything is there to grip yet. It's a 5.4 engine.
The new models are using the ecoboost which I would like to have - more power for towing. I also read that Ford may be putting a diesel in them in the next couple years.

The 5.4's will usually leave about 6mm (1/4") of the stud sticking out above the cylinder head surface..What I do is thread an 8mm nut onto the protruding stud,& either braze or tack (if you have access) that nut to the stud.It won't hurt the head IF your careful.The stud will spin right out.Haven't lost one yet. The reason why I asked the engine size was you mentioned you serviced the "timing belt"...5.4 is a timing chain model.
P.S...the manifold will likely be cracked too.

The Noof
02-04-2017, 04:53 PM
My priority at the moment is to see drawings for the sunroof assembly. Second priority is the disassembly of the dash. I am not in a rush to fix the manifold, I can live with the leak for now.

I'm at home now, & I don't know what our current password is for alldata online.I can give you temporary access on Monday as long as you assure me you won't abuse it.The service costs me 170.00 a month,but worth every cent.We use it many times a day.

Gates07
02-05-2017, 03:11 PM
i have never seen that the manuals were available on c/d but i probably would buy one if i knew where to look, sometimes you just need the right words, and i can understand not wanting to pay over $100 an hr. for labor and end up with some other problem, (they fixed this but broke that)

dogdayz
02-05-2017, 04:28 PM
Sorry I meant the serpentine belt was what I had to change - not a big job.

Good idea about tacking a nut to the stud, I can try and do that first, also the heat might help to loosen it. That will be a job for when the weather warms up. I hope the manifold isn't cracked, that was my big fear but I can't see any crack.


The 5.4's will usually leave about 6mm (1/4") of the stud sticking out above the cylinder head surface..What I do is thread an 8mm nut onto the protruding stud,& either braze or tack (if you have access) that nut to the stud.It won't hurt the head IF your careful.The stud will spin right out.Haven't lost one yet. The reason why I asked the engine size was you mentioned you serviced the "timing belt"...5.4 is a timing chain model.
P.S...the manifold will likely be cracked too.

dogdayz
02-05-2017, 04:31 PM
That would be very generous of you and very much appreciated. I surely would not abuse the privilege.
Thanks.
(I assume you must be a mechanic??)


I'm at home now, & I don't know what our current password is for alldata online.I can give you temporary access on Monday as long as you assure me you won't abuse it.The service costs me 170.00 a month,but worth every cent.We use it many times a day.