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Rokko
06-15-2017, 08:02 PM
Ward-Kovalev II: Who Cares Who Isn’t Watching?


By Cliff Rold

Some fights grow, at least for a night, bigger than the sport. They belong to a bigger picture, a tapestry of memorable events, moments in time where the world slows down and boxing is all of sport.

This Saturday isn’t one of those fights.

Who gives a damn?

There has been lots of gnashing of teeth about issues irrelevant to what happens in the ring this week. On canvas, 2004 Olympic Gold Medalist, former super middleweight champion, and currently unified light heavyweight titlist Andre Ward (31-0, 15 KO) faces Sergey Kovalev (30-1-1, 27 KO) in a rematch of what of the most hotly debated outcomes in recent memory (HBO PPV, 9 PM EST/6 PM PST).

Hotly debated, of course, among those who debate about boxing when it isn’t front page.

In recent weeks, much has been written, tweeted, and spoken about what isn’t happening. Ward-Kovalev II has not caught the general sports viewer’s attention any more than their first fight did. Why it’s not bigger, who didn’t hold up their end of the promotion, and which fighter lacks the requisite star power is all interesting enough conversation. For anyone whose business is covering the sport, it’s certainly worthy of a headline on the road to the leather flying.

But, really, why does it matter to fans?

If one is the sort who watched the first fight, argued about the outcome, wondered if this rematch would happen, and is preparing to watch the sequel this weekend, isn’t that what counts? Boxing fandom can be a myopic endeavor full of disappointments and unfulfilled hypothetical musing. 2017 is the reward for those who stay with boxing during the down times.

Everyone who loves boxing is getting a lot of what they want this year. We’ve seen classics from Jr. bantamweight to heavyweight, the rise of new stars, some network television success, and we keep getting fights actually asked for.



Fights like Ward-Kovalev II.

When Ward had his hand raised against Kovalev last November, almost everyone who saw it wanted to see it again. For Ward fans, even if they thought he earned the win, they knew it was close. This is the chance to find out if their man is really the better man. For Kovalev fans that saw their man wronged, this is his opportunity to set the record straight.

They’re still two of boxing’s best current fighters in any weight class. They match up well. Kovalev’s long arms, stiff jab, and frightening power against the tenacious, methodical, win by single rounds approach of Ward meets multiple desires. For the action fan, their first fight had some heavy hands landed. For the technically impressed, the chess match was there. It should be again.

It’s boxing, as sport, showing its best competitive face. In the US, the number of people who are happy with that alone dwindled a long time ago. We’ve lived with this dichotomy for more than a generation.

How many people beyond the solid boxing base were glued to the television for nights like James Toney-Mike McCallum I? Why were there so many empty seats at Diego Corrales-Jose Luis Castillo I? When a boxing fan asks a non-boxing fan what they thought of the epic Israel Vazquez-Rafael Marquez rivalry, how many get an answer beyond, “huh?”

The tree fell in the forest. The folks reading right now? They saw it fall. Having a forest to oneself, or shared only with the people who like the same surroundings, is where great memories are made.

The whole world might not be watching this weekend, but the boxing world will. Enjoy it for what it is because, here’s the thing…

…as the years go by, most fights fade far from view. Sure, more Americans used to watch boxing than is the case now. How many of the fights from those times really still spark much conversation? There is a seemingly infinite supply of Muhammad Ali documentaries and we still talk plenty about Joe Louis, Sugar Ray Robinson, the 1980s Fab Four, and the Mike Tyson era.

How often does mainstream press recall Carlos Monzon-Rodrigo Valdes, Emile Griffith-Nino Benvenuti, or Matthew Saad Muhammad-Yaqui Lopez? When the dust settles and time passes, most of the best of boxing is only recalled and embraced by people who like boxing all the time and never stopped.

This weekend will end, or extend, the sort of rivalry that only boxing fans would still be talking about a decade from now no matter how many buys come in on pay-per-view. Would it be better if there were a larger viewing platform, bigger buzz, and more people chattering at the water cooler?

Of course.

It doesn’t mean anything once the bell rings.

Andre Ward and Sergey Kovalev are stepping to scratch this weekend for the second time. If that’s your sort of kicks, the world will stop for a scheduled twelve rounds.

The accountants can worry about the rest.

Highwayman
06-16-2017, 02:25 AM
I dont know about you guys but i`m going to watch it but i sure and the hell aint gonna pay for it!
I`m gonna have a few beers some medical marijuana and a couple of bbq hamburgers...

c8rbk1ng
06-16-2017, 03:15 PM
I dont know about you guys but i`m going to watch it but i sure and the hell aint gonna pay for it!
I`m gonna have a few beers some medical marijuana and a couple of bbq hamburgers...

Can we come to your house?

rudee
06-16-2017, 04:16 PM
Be there at noon Highway !!!!!!

Highwayman
06-17-2017, 05:10 AM
Can we come to your house?

Everyone from Satfix is welcome @the highwayman`s house you dont need anything just bring yourself.

Highwayman
06-17-2017, 05:13 AM
Be there at noon Highway !!!!!!

Can uuuuuu bring your avatar she would look pretty good in my pool.
Tell her to dress lite!

rudee
06-17-2017, 03:05 PM
Got to find out where the fight will be streaming for free on the internet..
Only way I will see it....
This little beaner is poooor !!!

Highwayman
06-17-2017, 09:16 PM
Got to find out where the fight will be streaming for free on the internet..
Only way I will see it....
This little beaner is poooor !!!

need some tv rudee you can make this list a m3u but they are .ts files renamed to m3u8`s
the best way to watch in Vlc is one link at a time Didnt check to see how much time on these
but they wont last long
http://dexonline.ninja:8000/live/money/money/25583.m3u8

26802 there is five separate usa lists.

too early to post fight links last ppv fight went on youtube just before the fight
those latinos too i`m sure they`ll be a few of those.

rudee
06-18-2017, 01:04 AM
Gracias amigo!!!

c8rbk1ng
06-18-2017, 01:57 AM
sky sports 1

c8rbk1ng
06-18-2017, 02:24 AM
What? A legal blow? Clearly after the bell. Robert Byrd should have been the ref, he was the only one who got it right...and they wouldn't listen to him. Rigondeaux should thank the Gods...this is why today's boxing is bulls**t!

TLG
06-18-2017, 04:09 AM
Another terrible boxing outcome , when the question is whether or not those were or weren't low blows, makes this one another
Ho-hum boxing match conclusion.

And even though the ref stopped the match, I got to agree with Kovalev when he says he was able to continue. Not saying Kovalev
would come back, just saying, I would've like to see them continue tI'll there was a knock down.

Glad I didn't pay to watch this one !!

c8rbk1ng
06-18-2017, 04:19 AM
This card was another black eye for boxing and why they're losing fans left and right. Anyone who pays good money for these (I think) predetermined disgraces should have their head examined, but watch how many fools pay for the McGregor/ Mayweather sideshow "fight".

rudee
06-18-2017, 03:10 PM
The whole card was a complete mess! All kinds of down time waiting for the Ward fight... horrible!
The Ward fight was horrible up to the end... neither one could land a shot.. bruises were from
heads hitting... The Russian ran out of gas again.. like he did the first fight... has no stamina.
As far as low blows, a guys balls are a lot lower then the belt line.. plus its an aluminum protection
that works really well... Ref really had no choice but to stop it cause K just knelt there and bent over.
Its kinda like a fighter turning his back.. Ward had no place to hit him.. Coulda given him a standing or kneeling
8 count.. but was a matter of time.. Ward would have KO'd him.. the Russian was outta gas..
Crappy fights... again! Ward is not very exciting. But he gets the job done.

Moonman
06-20-2017, 03:18 AM
I had it on Kodi(sportsdevil) and had to turn it off after the second round. Thought I was watching Dancing with the Stars. I thought it was illeagal to do all that hugging during a fight...Pitiful