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Blazerbong

03-02-2018, 08:41 PM

I've been thinking about trying IPTV for a while.I do have a few questions about it.
The first one and most important is,Do the payments need to be secure like Iks or can we pay by Paypal or Interact?
I have 200 GB'S Internet a Month,approx how much T.V could I watch a Month?
Is it free of freezing or it happens at times?
Thanx

foresight

03-02-2018, 09:07 PM

From what I have read and researched in the past 1 to 3G an hour depending on the stream Q or whether SD or HD. Been a while since I fired up the roku and slingtv. An example via google in regard to netfix below.

Netflix uses about 1 GB of data per hour for each stream of standard definition video, and up to 3 GB per hour for each stream of HD video.

I would go with 2G to gauge with your call.

Blazerbong

03-02-2018, 09:57 PM

Ok,just need reassuring on Payment method.

johnnynothumbs

03-02-2018, 10:05 PM

most resellers including me take vanilla only

johnnynothumbs

03-02-2018, 10:06 PM

interact is safe too i use it

johnnylarue

03-02-2018, 10:20 PM

walter

03-02-2018, 11:32 PM

interact is safe too i use it

You really think so?
Pre-paid cards all the way.

johnnynothumbs

03-03-2018, 12:51 AM

yeah of course that too lol

epiciptv

03-03-2018, 05:07 AM

1. BITCOINS
2. PREPAID VANILLA VISA/MASTERCARDS
3. If you want to pay via paypal you can do that also using prepaid cards, just pay as guest and use the prepaid card to make the payment.

With 200gb data you should be able to watch about 3-4 hours of live TV par day.

Emporium

03-03-2018, 11:30 AM

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With 200gb data you should be able to watch about 3-4 hours of live TV par day.

That is till cutting it tight.. at 1.5GB/hr, and assuming 4hrs/day, you are still looking at 180GB of data just for IPTV.
Unlimited all the way.. And that is not on the higher bitrate channels.

Since I switched to IPTV (for live TV), my usage has gone up on average by 300GB to 350GB per month.. And that is above everyting else (VoIP, movie streaming, kids gaming [steam updates, xbox one updates, etc..], windows updates, etc..).

With the slow switch to h265, I'd be curious to see by how much usage will go down.

@ 200GB, you will need to keep an eye on your usage. Thanks, but I'd rather pay an extra $10 for internet, get unlimited, and not worry about it. My ISP (in Quebec) offer the Cable 30/10 profile for about $600/yr, which comes to about $50/month for unlimited. I went with the 60/10 profile, and there is now way I could live with a metered connection. Either way, with the amount I am saving from the canceled cable bill (was over $70/month, now using IPTV and OTA Andtenna), and dumb Bell home phone bill (was $52/month, now on VoIP costing $0/month), I don't mind spending a little more on my internet to ensure smooth, unlimited and decent speed connection.

kenkell1

03-03-2018, 04:08 PM

If you have teenage sons like I do and they both have their Xbox's running as I watch Kodi or iptv.......then your data will be huge.
Mine last month hit 850 GB ...glad I am unlimited.

Blazerbong

03-03-2018, 04:32 PM

I only watch about 2 hours of T.V. a day so I should be ok.What proves to be more difficult is finding a reseller that accepts Canadian prepaid Cards.

Emporium

03-03-2018, 08:43 PM

If you have teenage sons like I do and they both have their Xbox's running as I watch Kodi or iptv.......then your data will be huge.
Mine last month hit 850 GB ...glad I am unlimited.

Exactly... I have 2 teens, and with my IPTV, VoIP their Xbox One, Steam on both their PCs, youtube, spotify, etc.. I was at 680GB and it was a slow month :) I've had unlimited for over 10 years now, and there is no way to go to a metered connection..

kenkell1

03-03-2018, 09:26 PM

Just be carful with your payment to any IPTV services. There was just a big write up on CBC yesterday about IPTV and how the poor dirt bag telecom companies are losing money....lol

Blazerbong

03-03-2018, 10:22 PM

Yeah,I know its growing fast.Several guys at work have already got into it.They are buying the Boxes and Services from guys selling directly on KIJIJI.One guy sells on KIJIJI and has a store in a Shopping Mall.Will demonstrate the IPTV directly in the Store.Eventually there will probably be a big crackdown.Cable companies are losing money and that will have consequences.
Its somewhat like Prostitution,a little,no worries,A lot=Big crackdowns.

johnnylarue

03-03-2018, 10:41 PM

Travis Bickle

03-04-2018, 03:46 AM

You really think so?
Pre-paid cards all the way.

True. Bitcoin is the safest of all (besides paying cash directly to the reseller) but I use prepaid credit cards all the time (paid in cash obviously). If you're really paranoid, place the order online using the prepaid CC info using TOR, Public Wifi, or a VPN or a combination of all 3.

Travis Bickle

03-04-2018, 04:04 AM

Just be carful with your payment to any IPTV services. There was just a big write up on CBC yesterday about IPTV and how the poor dirt bag telecom companies are losing money....lol

Yep. In general with paying for services of a questionable and controversial nature such as IPTV, be as anonymous as possible. You don't want to get a certified letter from a law firm asking for a few thousand dollars to settle a lawsuit if you get pinched.

johnnynothumbs

03-04-2018, 11:00 AM

I only watch about 2 hours of T.V. a day so I should be ok.What proves to be more difficult is finding a reseller that accepts Canadian prepaid Cards.

hmm dont know about other peeps but accepting them is easy as pie, for me never had an issue.

jedi

03-04-2018, 04:18 PM

It is safe as long as you have a way to get your money from the credit card without leading a NagraStar investigator to your front door. 
Investigators can and have purchased credits from resellers...

johnnylarue

03-04-2018, 05:15 PM

Those are IKS resellers.

Travis Bickle

03-04-2018, 05:23 PM

Those are IKS resellers.

Yes. IKS is dead. Could be a different story for IPTV resellers.

jedi

03-04-2018, 05:27 PM

Those are IKS resellers.

The investigators visit our area quite often - their main interest is IPTV resellers. When offering leniency for those that they have caught they are looking for cooperation to catch the IPTV dealers - they are not so much concerned about IKS - they figure they have that under control. The big rewards are offered for the head IPTV dealers.

johnnylarue

03-04-2018, 05:38 PM

The investigators visit our area quite often - their main interest is IPTV resellers. When offering leniency for those that they have caught they are looking for cooperation to catch the IPTV dealers - they are not so much concerned about IKS - they figure they have that under control. The big rewards are offered for the head IPTV dealers.

The only shakedowns were dealers selling loaded boxes. IPTV reselling is not illegal.

raiderz

03-04-2018, 06:21 PM

IPTV reselling is not illegal.

:lurk5::lurk5:

kenkell1

03-04-2018, 06:28 PM

The only shakedowns were dealers selling loaded boxes. IPTV reselling is not illegal.

nothing is illegal until you get caught ;)

johnnylarue

03-04-2018, 06:30 PM

nothing is illegal until you get caught ;)

They will have to change the laws first.

kenkell1

03-04-2018, 06:40 PM

They will have to change the laws first.

yep canada's copyright act prohibits unauthorized downloading of copyrighted content.Viewers using a loaded android box are only streaming, not downloading material, however loaded Android boxes could potentially run into trouble because the law prohibits services that exist primarily for the purpose of enabling copyright infringement.

Blazerbong

03-04-2018, 09:32 PM

Even selling IPTV services on Ebay.I guess its not illegal or Ebay would remove it from their Site.

https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1311.R6.TR11.TRC1.A0.H1.Xip tv.TRS0&_nkw=iptv+subscription+1+year&_sacat=0

Bot1

03-04-2018, 09:34 PM

Box the link it's live.

johnnynothumbs

03-05-2018, 10:55 AM

what are you trying to say here??

jedi

03-05-2018, 10:08 PM

What do you mean by "loaded boxes"? 
I have a friend that sold an android box to an Investigator with a private IPTV service installed and he ended up being charged for contempt of court and almost...

jedi

03-05-2018, 10:19 PM

what are you trying to say here??

I'm just cautioning resellers to be careful how they process their credit card payments.
Hopefully you have a fool proof way of processing the payments so that it does not lead back to you.
If you process the payments through your bank or some other legal credit card processor - it would be easy for the Investigators to trace the payment back to you.

I think most resellers probably use a phony name, address, etc for processing their credit card payments - but somewhere along the line someone has to use their real name, address, bank account, etc. to collect the money.
You want to make sure that this legal person doesn't know who you are - so he can't point to you when the Investigators confront him.

johnnynothumbs

03-07-2018, 03:01 PM

I'm just cautioning resellers to be careful how they process their credit card payments.
Hopefully you have a fool proof way of processing the payments so that it does not lead back to you.
If you process the payments through your bank or some other legal credit card processor - it would be easy for the Investigators to trace the payment back to you.

I think most resellers probably use a phony name, address, etc for processing their credit card payments - but somewhere along the line someone has to use their real name, address, bank account, etc. to collect the money.
You want to make sure that this legal person doesn't know who you are - so he can't point to you when the Investigators confront him.not if its an offshore account dummy corp everything is fake and leads nowere

walter

03-07-2018, 07:05 PM

not if its an offshore account dummy corp everything is fake and leads nowere

Then how do you get your money

jedi

03-07-2018, 07:59 PM

not if its an offshore account dummy corp everything is fake and leads nowere

If everything is a dummy corp with all fake information - how does a person get their money? I can see it working with smaller amounts of money - but once you start receiving a thousand dollars or more a month in credit card payments - then someone is going to have to have a real bank account somewhere to deposit the money.
If you have a professional private investigator on your trail it is hard to hide.

johnnylarue

03-07-2018, 10:08 PM

Selling a loaded box is illegal. Reselling IPTV is not illegal.

walter

03-07-2018, 11:34 PM

Selling a loaded box is illegal. Reselling IPTV is not illegal.

Just curious as to how you/we know its not illegal.

It's not to far from selling IKS subs is it? We know how that ended for those who were caught.

johnnylarue

03-08-2018, 02:08 AM

No one has been charged with reselling IPTV in Canada, or the US as far as I've heard. Cite me a case. Just one. Streaming and IKS are apples and oranges.

Travis Bickle

03-08-2018, 02:33 AM

Not yet...

dishuser

03-08-2018, 02:40 AM

Not yet...

can you show the law that states not yet will change?
unless something has changed I can't find it

walter

03-08-2018, 02:42 AM

So it's not illegal because nobody has been charged, yet. I see. 
 
I remember a time that no one had been charged with selling and/or using an IKS server. 
 
How is selling access to an IKS server...

johnnylarue

03-08-2018, 02:46 AM

Not yet...

When it happens, talk.

johnnylarue

03-08-2018, 02:54 AM

These guys were selling pre-loaded boxes. They are toast. I am talking reselling - no hardware.

Emporium

03-08-2018, 03:12 AM

These guys were selling pre-loaded boxes. They are toast. I am talking reselling - no hardware.

Yes, they were, and that makes it worse for sure. But they also mention subscription in the lawsuit. So it will be for both infringments.

Describing the defendants’ actions as “willful, malicious, intentional [and] purposeful”, D*** is suing for Direct Copyright Infringement, demanding a permanent injunction preventing the promotion and provision of the service plus statutory damages of $150,000 per registered work. The final amount isn’t specified but the numbers are potentially enormous. In addition, D*** demands attorneys’ fees, costs, and the seizure of all infringing articles

D*** claims that these defendants also illegally capture and retransmit channels to customers in the United States. IPTV boxes costing up to $179 including one year’s service are the method of delivery

Either way, it will be a while before anything happens, so we will enjoy it while we can. Only time will tell.

I don't think we need to continue this discussion. :) it should probably be closed and buried... We don't need any additional exposure.

Bot1

03-08-2018, 03:16 AM

Lets watch the live links. I've already made a one post on boxing them.

dishuser

03-08-2018, 03:16 AM

wow
pretty big head on dn
they think all iptv programming comes from them
one word....idiots
same goes for kodi addons
can they prove it was downloaded from one of their subs?
they just like to sue and in some cases are wasting courts time