Coworker left a couple shop rags in the engine valley when doing intake gaskets.

[Justdroppedin]

Now he gets to replace the engine......


https://i.redd.it/99g4qce4rpl21.jpg

[The Noof]

Bye-bye 3800 Buick.I'm guessing the rag(s)got between the cam &lifters & caused valve interference?Maybe choked the oil pump screen if it ran long enough.

[sonicmario]

those motors are bullet proof, my friend had one with like 600 000 km, still ran like a top.... he had the supercharged 3800 and the body gave up way before the drive-train..

[Dodgem]

Bye-bye 3800 Buick.I'm guessing the rag(s)got between the cam &lifters & caused valve interference?Maybe choked the oil pump screen if it ran long enough.I never had one of these apart but it looks like that might be a balance shaft of some sort and the cam is a little lower.

[The Noof]

I never had one of these apart but it looks like that might be a balance shaft of some sort and the cam is a little lower.

That is the configuration...cam right under.Could have grenaded the timing chain as well.Balance shaft driven from a small gear on the camshaft, which is chain driven.Many things can happen due to a moments stupidity .lol.
Looks like he used a die-grinder & abrasive wheel to clean the mating surfaces:that's a BIG no-no in my shop.

[chad1976]

All the talking say its not going to be worth fixing!:comfort1:

[1boxman]

Goes to show you ..that not even an engine can get rid of a rag :tape: or maybe it is on one

[Dodgem]

That is the configuration...cam right under.Could have grenaded the timing chain as well.Balance shaft driven from a small gear on the camshaft, which is chain driven.Many things can happen due to a moments stupidity .lol.
Looks like he used a die-grinder & abrasive wheel to clean the mating surfaces:that's a BIG no-no in my shop.Looks like they used out door house caulking/silicone also.As for using a die grinder i have always used a fine abrasive pad.Just not on aluminum.Never had one come back with a leak.Actually i used a extra fine abrasive pad on the last hemi i did cam and lifters in. It was a mess and hard to clean.That was around Xmas and no leaks.It's been back for 2 services since.First time i ever used them on aluminum.

[The Noof]

Looks like they used out door house caulking/silicone also.As for using a die grinder i have always used a fine abrasive pad.Just not on aluminum.Never had one come back with a leak.Actually i used a extra fine abrasive pad on the last hemi i did cam and lifters in. It was a mess and hard to clean.That was around Xmas and no leaks.It's been back for 2 services since.First time i ever used them on aluminum.

80 grit on a hard sanding block, straight-line motion for me.

[dishuser]

Looks like they used out door house caulking/silicone also.As for using a die grinder i have always used a fine abrasive pad.Just not on aluminum.Never had one come back with a leak.Actually i used a extra fine abrasive pad on the last hemi i did cam and lifters in. It was a mess and hard to clean.That was around Xmas and no leaks.It's been back for 2 services since.First time i ever used them on aluminum.

my guess is they used the sealant because they didn't take manifold off in sequence and canoed it
get a nice whistling...lol