sat9182 announcement

[sat9182]

sat9182 is making some changes this week

sidless boxes will be moved to a different port ( port 54321 )
if your box quits working and is sidless, odds are you have been moved try port 54321 before pming us

we are seeing more and more users also sending dish request to the bev port this will not be tolerated
we are going to give each user one warning & if second offense happens after warning you will be moved to a cache port

[beefcake]

Whats a SIDLESS box thanks

[surfinisfun]

sat9182 is making some changes this week

sidless boxes will be moved to a different port ( port 54321 )
if your box quits working and is sidless, odds are you have been moved try port 54321 before pming us

we are seeing more and more users also sending dish request to the bev port this will not be tolerated
we are going to give each user one warning & if second offense happens after warning you will be moved to a cache port


Whats a SIDLESS box thanks

I'm a little more curious about the dish requests with the bev port....not really sure what that means.

People trying to get dish with bev provider?

I think sideless are receivers like SV, although i'm not positive of that.

[weezer]

I'm a little more curious about the dish requests with the bev port....not really sure what that means.

People trying to get dish with bev provider?

I think sideless are receivers like SV, although i'm not positive of that.

not sure what either one means can we get a little more info on this thx

[The Noof]

I'm a little more curious about the dish requests with the bev port....not really sure what that means.

People trying to get dish with bev provider?

I think sideless are receivers like SV, although i'm not positive of that.



I think that sometimes the stb's that are set up to receive both north & south can send the wrong requests to the iks server.

[pennywise]

if you have 1 receiver with both north and south can cause a problem.

if the receiver is on south channels, some- not all receivers, will search the north server and screw up channels for the users watching them by repeatedly hitting the server

moving the sidless to separate port will help all users and making sure you have only north server running while running your receiver will stop the issue

see post 6 here also
https://www.satfix.to/showthread.php?206599-Sending-Bad-Request-During-Ufc-Server-Sat9182&highlight=sending+bad+requests

[sat9182]

sidless are boxes that do not tell the server what channel you are on and just sends 0000 as channel number
like provider ird some n fusions and older sonic views


as for dish hitting bev port
yes it is people that have boxes that dont know what server slot is bev and dish and send the request to all server slots


this is one the reasons you should have one box for each provider or if you dont use dish anymore should disconnect your dish provider line

[easy b]

if you have 1 receiver with both north and south can cause a problem.

if the receiver is on south channels, some- not all receivers, will search the north server and screw up channels for the users watching them by repeatedly hitting the server

moving the sidless to separate port will help all users and making sure you have only north server running while running your receiver will stop the issue

see post 6 here also
https://www.satfix.to/showthread.php?206599-Sending-Bad-Request-During-Ufc-Server-Sat9182&highlight=sending+bad+requests

i'm running 1 reciever with 25f only pointed at bev,i've done a factory reset and all the dish channels are gone,will the bin try to find d**h and create bad data requests .thanks

[pennywise]

i'm running 1 reciever with 25f only pointed at bev,i've done a factory reset and all the dish channels are gone,will the bin try to find d**h and create bad data requests .thanks

no you should be fine

[turtlen]

i'm using a jyazbox 500 and have both dish and bev on receiver,so when i want to switch over to watch dish while i'm on bev i go to my settings and turn bev off and vice versa,it is working for me,maybe for those who have a sidless receiver should try that,i watch dish maybe i hour or 2 if i find a good movie on

[lomchivok]

Lets say someone has only 1 bell sub on 1 dish but has another dish pointing at dish 110 to receive the unscrambled Motor Trend...all connected to the same sat receiver. No south sub just watching a free dish channel...will this cause the problem with the dish hits on a bell server???

[dishuser]

Lets say someone has only 1 bell sub on 1 dish but has another dish pointing at dish 110 to receive the unscrambled Motor Trend...all connected to the same sat receiver. No south sub just watching a free dish channel...will this cause the problem with the dish hits on a bell server???

no because you aren't sending requests

[anthonym41]

I'd like to know why this new port isn't getting every channel as I was on the main port?

[sat9182]

its a cache port for sidless and problem users

if you want to be on main port get a box thta puts out a sid or fix your setup if already have a box that produces sids

we are not going to let a handful of users screw up main port for everyone else

[toronto9413]

What exactly do you mean by cache port? If the main port has chan X and a user on port 54321 requests chan X, then shouldn't the cache port retrieve the control words from the main port? If the cache port has only its own set of chans, is there a listing for this?

[joanz]

its a cache port for sidless and problem users

if you want to be on main port get a box thta puts out a sid or fix your setup if already have a box that produces sids

we are not going to let a handful of users screw up main port for everyone else

How does one fix the setup, am i understanding this correctly.....modded VIPs are problem users?

[riverman]

Is there any chance that the Mlb package could be made available to the sidless receivers?I tried to watch the Chisox game yesterday and over the course of the game saw the picture twice

[chad1976]

Is there any chance that the Mlb package could be made available to the sidless receivers?I tried to watch the Chisox game yesterday and over the course of the game saw the picture twice

Rescan all sats

[joanz]

Checkswitch for sidless?

[pennywise]

Checkswitch for sidless?

pm your seller to check

[dishuser]

pm your seller to check

that makes no sense

[joanz]

OK I'm finding that a little more looking around helps....but I plan to test one a dem dare FTA low end power supply units

[jedi]

Is there any chance that the Mlb package could be made available to the sidless receivers?I tried to watch the Chisox game yesterday and over the course of the game saw the picture twice

Are you saying you were watching it and then it was gone?
If so then I think someone was watching this game with a receiver that provides the SID to the server - while someone is watching that channel it will be available to everyone to watch because the control words will be in the cache memory for all SIDless receivers to use and for all other receivers. Once someone is getting the control words for a channel - then all other requests for the same control words go to the cache server - FSLB - the load balancer - will send all other requests to the cache - it won't bother sending any more requests to the card servers as that would be a waste of time. Why tie up the card servers doing work that has already been done.

If the guy watching then switches from the Chisox game to a diffferent channel then the control words will not be in the cache and no SIDless receiver will be able to watch.
As soon as a receiver provides the SID for a channel - it will get sent to the card servers to generate the control words.

The only way the control words will get to the cache is if someone that provides the SID is watching that channel or if the Server owners pull the control words for that channel and store it in the cache.

[pennywise]

that makes no sense

if you don't know if your box is sidless you can pm your seller and they can find out for you is all that was meant

im guessing they don't know if there box was sidless....trying to offer direction :) it has nothing to do with switch

[JCM5881]

It is available but someone on the main port has to be watching it concurrently. This is will generate the CW and store it on the cache port to be available.

If no user is watching it on the main port, it will not broadcast as there is no CW available in the cache


What exactly do you mean by cache port? If the main port has chan X and a user on port 54321 requests chan X, then shouldn't the cache port retrieve the control words from the main port? If the cache port has only its own set of chans, is there a listing for this?

[easy b]

It is available but someone on the main port has to be watching it concurrently. This is will generate the CW and store it on the cache port to be available.

If no user is watching it on the main port, it will not broadcast as there is no CW available in the cache

hd channels seem to act as though they are indeed on a cache server,but,it seems strange that the hd channels is not working,but,the corresponding sd channels is.people are not watching hd,but are watching sd,makes no sense to me.

[got2bme]

hd channels working perfectly here.

maybe you have a receiver problem

[jessica2016]

sat9182 is making some changes this week

sidless boxes will be moved to a different port ( port 54321 )
if your box quits working and is sidless, odds are you have been moved try port 54321 before pming us
How do I know if my receiver is sidless, do you have a list of known good or known bad receivers?
How do you send that first warning? Email, PM...?
I haven't logged in for a while, I'm afraid I might have missed something. And I have been noticing random channels the picture "breaking up" in squares and sound stuttering after say 15-20 minutes. Others work just fine for hours. Wonder if that's a symptom of being moved to cache port or should I look for the issue somewhere else. I haven't changed any ports yet and still running on default 12345

[pennywise]

if you were moved ports you would have had to change it in your server settings on your receiver. If you did not do that then you haven't been moved.

Sounds like you have bad signal to me. Check your signal quality bars on all transponders. Something may have moved, like your dish or something LNB going bad or rusted wires, bad switch to name a few. Don't let the receiver run like that, turn it off, that will get you moved to the cache port. Start with checking all your equipment.

[sat9182]

How do I know if my receiver is sidless, do you have a list of known good or known bad receivers?
How do you send that first warning? Email, PM...?
I haven't logged in for a while, I'm afraid I might have missed something. And I have been noticing random channels the picture "breaking up" in squares and sound stuttering after say 15-20 minutes. Others work just fine for hours. Wonder if that's a symptom of being moved to cache port or should I look for the issue somewhere else. I haven't changed any ports yet and still running on default 12345

you say sound stuttering after say 15-20 minutes.

well sound is not encrypted so I would be looking at your box or dish setup
maybe switch or dish aliment is not perfect
or box is overheating

main port should have no issues your box is not sidless or you would have had to change port by now

[easy b]

hd channels working perfectly here.

maybe you have a receiver problem

so you get all the hd channels all the time on port 54321

[got2bme]

don't remember what port but watching 2726 SHWHD now

[madmax49]

Many channels are not coming in for me on port 54321.
As of right now it's 1648, 1707, 1728, 1730 and 1740.
No time to check other channels.

[sat9182]

its a cache port for sidless and or users that always screw up the main port

if you dont like cache port get a better box that is not sidless or dont put your box on a dish channel when on bev port

we will not let a hand full of sidless user or problem users screw up the main port for everyone else

[joanz]

its a cache port for sidless and or users that always screw up the main port

if you dont like cache port get a better box that is not sidless or dont put your box on a dish channel when on bev port

we will not let a hand full of sidless user or problem users screw up the main port for everyone else

I'm testing on 54321, I've been testing pretty successfully before the change with oem equipment, I've not heard a lot of good things about the FTAs mostly problems with the jb200 module.......please recommend a unit to test.....I'll be happy to try....btw.......I love the service

[pennywise]

I'm testing on 54321, I've been testing pretty successfully before the change with oem equipment, I've not heard a lot of good things about the FTAs mostly problems with the jb200 module.......please recommend a unit to test.....I'll be happy to try....btw.......I love the service

dreamlink hd
dreamlink t4
dreamlink t5
jynx
Linkbox 9000 series
sonicview 8k

look for used on interweb

[madmax49]

its a cache port for sidless and or users that always screw up the main port

if you dont like cache port get a better box that is not sidless or dont put your box on a dish channel when on bev port

we will not let a hand full of sidless user or problem users screw up the main port for everyone else

If I disconnect the dish sat dish (which is not in use) and make sure my Sonicview is only on the bev port. Will that fix the problem and I could get back on the 12345 port?

[sat9182]

If I disconnect the dish sat dish (which is not in use) and make sure my Sonicview is only on the bev port. Will that fix the problem and I could get back on the 12345 port?

redo your box remove dishnetwork sats and re scan only bev or delete all dish channels on the box then pm me your username we will give you another chance on main port

[madmax49]

redo your box remove dishnetwork sats and re scan only bev or delete all dish channels on the box then pm me your username we will give you another chance on main port

That's great,
Thanks,

[jets]

see this thread on how to fix SID-less requests using GooWare:

https://www.satfix.to/showthread.php?208794-fixing-SID-less-request-in-the-VS9000HD-and-other-STB-in-a-router-Linux-and-Windows