View Full Version : recommend a good indoor OTA antenna
keegster17
05-28-2019, 12:46 PM
I am moving into a town home, which probably won't allow me to run coaxial cables like I can, owning a house, so to make life easy is there a good indoor OTA antenna out there, or an alternative to coaxial cables, so I can get a decent amount of channels? I am approx. 20kms west of downtown Toronto, near the lake.
The Noof
05-28-2019, 01:56 PM
I am moving into a town home, which probably won't allow me to run coaxial cables like I can, owning a house, so to make life easy is there a good indoor OTA antenna out there, or an alternative to coaxial cables, so I can get a decent amount of channels? I am approx. 20kms west of downtown Toronto, near the lake.
I tried 2 indoor versions with poor results.I live in the GTA as well, so our results would be similar.With the amplified rca version, I got the cn tower channels on some days, chch Hamilton very well.Nothing from upstate NY.
keegster17
05-28-2019, 02:10 PM
yeah I think I had the same one, maybe outdoor is the best way to go. Do you know a good outdoor one that is very small and not an eyesore? maybe I will eventually try running cable or have it only for my rooftop outdoor tv.
auggie
05-28-2019, 02:35 PM
Would this one work hxxps://www.amazon.com/ANTOP-AT-400BV-Flat-Panel-Multi-Directional-Detachable/dp/B01NBTMGJ4
Called the "Big Boy" ANTOP-AT-400BV
The Noof
05-28-2019, 02:41 PM
yeah I think I had the same one, maybe outdoor is the best way to go. Do you know a good outdoor one that is very small and not an eyesore? maybe I will eventually try running cable or have it only for my rooftop outdoor tv.
A 4 bay like the channel master 4221 or 4224 aimed properly will get you some upstate NY,all the cn tower channles & chch most days.
I use an array of 2 channel master 4228 8 bays with a rotator & I get 30 plus channels, many from NY.
I read this not long ago (news piece is dated 19th May 2019)
It refers to OTA free reception and an application to terminate
I understand service providers have applied for permission to
stop the free service --- Shaw is denying it has done such
a thing ,, But the CBC is sticking to their story
And if Shaw has applied, the others are sure to follow ,,
Follow this link to get to the article, judge for yourself if you
want to spend money on an antenna that might not work past
the summer
h**ps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/shaw-permission-satellite-rural-1.5136212
The Noof
05-28-2019, 03:09 PM
I read this not long ago (news piece is dated 19th May 2019)
It refers to OTA free reception and an application to terminate
I understand service providers have applied for permission to
stop the free service --- Shaw is denying it has done such
a thing ,, But the CBC is sticking to their story
And if Shaw has applied, the others are sure to follow ,,
Follow this link to get to the article, judge for yourself if you
want to spend money on an antenna that might not work past
the summer
h**ps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/shaw-permission-satellite-rural-1.5136212
The sky has been falling since the beginning of human conversation.If it happens, it happens, but it will be under protest for certain.
You pays yer money & you takes yer chances.
dishuser
05-28-2019, 03:16 PM
ota was free long before cable sat decided to capitalize on them
maybe they should go away...lol
Terryl
05-28-2019, 03:40 PM
I would do a TVfool report for your location first, this will give you an idea on were to point the antenna, and what type of antenna for what range you would need.
http://tvfool.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29
If you post the report link back here (it will not give away your exact address) I can help you further, but without info for the location, and whats available we would be guessing, as all locations are different as to what can be received with what type antenna.
With an indoor or in attic antenna you will be loosing about 1/2 of the available signal strength as to one located out on the roof, more if the roof is metal (no signal at all) or has brick or stucco in the way.
dishuser
05-28-2019, 05:58 PM
they posted their location
The Noof
05-28-2019, 06:14 PM
they posted their location
...and it's VERY close to my own.Our results would be VERY similar.
scooby8888
05-28-2019, 11:21 PM
i've had great luck with the direct clearstream 1 nice and small and works great.
runamok
05-28-2019, 11:46 PM
Get a antenna that is made for outside and try it.I have one outside that is small that rotates 360 it cost me about $25.00.It reaches 150 miles away.Inside is a different story.
Terryl
05-29-2019, 12:57 AM
Get a antenna that is made for outside and try it.I have one outside that is small that rotates 360 it cost me about $25.00.It reaches 150 miles away.Inside is a different story. Sorry Runamok, but no such thing as a 150 mile TV antenna, unless your picking up Tropo scatter or long range DX.(it would be there then not there)
For a TV antenna to work at 150 miles, the TV station transmitters would need to be at 6000 feet, and so would you, plus nothing in the way, like other mountains.
Terryl
05-29-2019, 01:03 AM
they posted their location
But a direct address TVfool report would help, and not all locations will be the same, unless he is within several blocks or miles of someone that has a setup that works.
I've been installing TV antennas for over 60 years,(well not anymore, they don't let me on roofs, I tend to try and fall off) and found that not all locations are the same, trees, tall buildings and other things affect the signals, I use to have a trailer with a crank up tower on it, we would do a test before install, but that was many years ago.......I wish I still had the trailer.
dishuser
05-29-2019, 01:37 AM
where I live one side of street all has same postal code but not everyone has trees
runamok
05-29-2019, 01:26 PM
Sorry Runamok, but no such thing as a 150 mile TV antenna, unless your picking up Tropo scatter or long range DX.(it would be there then not there)
For a TV antenna to work at 150 miles, the TV station transmitters would need to be at 6000 feet, and so would you, plus nothing in the way, like other mountains.
This is the antenna I have setup about 5 feet above my house and it reaches signals along way away.It says rated for 150 miles and its true.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Best-Choice-Products-HDTV-Motorized-Remote-Outdoor-Amplified-Antenna-360-UHF-VHF-FM-HD-TV-150-Miles/34176799?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1381&adid=22222222227022614362&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=52432769351&wl4=pla-83989260791&wl5=9010378&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112561937&wl11=online&wl12=34176799&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9PG0kurA4gIVClQNCh1OvAcxEAQYAyAB EgJ_G_D_BwE
Yes it does matter where you live and climate can interfere.
The Noof
05-29-2019, 01:44 PM
This is the antenna I have setup about 5 feet above my house and it reaches signals along way away.It says rated for 150 miles and its true.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Best-Choice-Products-HDTV-Motorized-Remote-Outdoor-Amplified-Antenna-360-UHF-VHF-FM-HD-TV-150-Miles/34176799?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1381&adid=22222222227022614362&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=52432769351&wl4=pla-83989260791&wl5=9010378&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112561937&wl11=online&wl12=34176799&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9PG0kurA4gIVClQNCh1OvAcxEAQYAyAB EgJ_G_D_BwE
Yes it does matter where you live and climate can interfere.
I think you should read the some more....
hxxp://dennysantennaservice.com/1496626.html
Terryl
05-29-2019, 04:10 PM
Here you all can figure it out, at an antenna height of 25 feet the transmitter at 150 miles would need to be at 13,800 feet.
https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=150&h0=25&unit=imperial
And unless your a flat Earther, the Earth gets in the way.
runamok
05-29-2019, 05:53 PM
I live on the nc and sc state line and can get tv from georgia a 100 miles away and over 100 miles north up nc.So I live in pretty flat area.
The Noof
05-29-2019, 07:30 PM
I live on the nc and sc state line and can get tv from georgia a 100 miles away and over 100 miles north up nc.So I live in pretty flat area.
BIG difference between 100 & 150.
The best Yagi is good for a hundred under IDEAL conditions..No more
Actv8
05-29-2019, 07:44 PM
I have been using LAVA HD2605 Ultra 4K Motorized Outdoor HDTV for the last four years and I am getting 39 channels. Have a look here
hxxps://antennadeals.com/HD2605.html
runamok
05-29-2019, 08:06 PM
BIG difference between 100 & 150.
The best Yagi is good for a hundred under IDEAL conditions..No more
I posted the spec's of the antenna and I said I was getting tv over 100 miles away close to 150.
foresight
05-29-2019, 09:03 PM
Sorry Runamok, but no such thing as a 150 mile TV antenna, unless your picking up Tropo scatter or long range DX.(it would be there then not there)
For a TV antenna to work at 150 miles, the TV station transmitters would need to be at 6000 feet, and so would you, plus nothing in the way, like other mountains.
Explains a few of my early morning ota/SV scanning mysteries. Was beginning to believe I had a U-110 with a demon in it.
runamok
05-29-2019, 09:37 PM
I live on one side of a mountain range and get nothing from other side so no Tropospheric scatter here just tv stations.
Terryl
05-30-2019, 12:58 AM
Explains a few of my early morning ota/SV scanning mysteries. Was beginning to believe I had a U-110 with a demon in it.
I had a modified 6 meter beam that I used to pick up BBC 1 when 6 meter skip was hot, I had an old PAL TV set from a long time ago, worked good when the tropo's were right.
Had a quad 2 meter setup also, could work Europe over the poles when it was right.
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