PVR causes video to freeze

[lionking]

For some reason on my dreamlink T5 everytime I try to record with the PVR the picture freezes and I get Scramble Channel. I have tried to reboot then it goes back to normal.

Also I have tried Factory Reset plus loading Factory bin...Factory Reset again...loading newest bin for dreamlink T5. This does not make any improvement in this.

Is there something else I should do to allow PVR to record again without freezing the video?

[auggie]

Could it possibly be a internet glitch/problem ?

[lionking]

I don't think so because there is no glitch or internet issue otherwise strong signal and no freezing scrambled otherwise until I use the PVR.

The other Dreamlink T1 HD has no issues with the PVR.

I am using a portable usb external drive right now non powered the other one that plugged in went on me, and hard to find other self powered external usb drives.

[auggie]

I don't think so because there is no glitch or internet issue otherwise strong signal and no freezing scrambled otherwise until I use the PVR.

The other Dreamlink T1 HD has no issues with the PVR.

I am using a portable usb external drive right now non powered the other one that plugged in went on me, and hard to find other self powered external usb drives.

OK, then your problem may be a power issue being the Non-powered external drive, The T5 having problems keeping up (power)
and the size of the drive (Fat32=Slow)

[auggie]

You could use something like this: hxxps://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Aluminum-Enclosure-Cooling-EC-UEIS7/dp/B001PHLMAE/ref=sr_1_13?keywords=powered+hard+drive+enclosure&qid=1571624056&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_four_browse-bin%3A6022609011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A5492129011&rnid=2886899011&s=pc&sr=1-13

to power your Non-powered drive.

[lionking]

Yes that could be it totally different than the power issues keeping up on the DL T1.

This is what I found on Amazon I will have to use for the T5.....Fantom 1 TB 7200 RPM USB 3.0/2.0 External Hard Drive with 3-Year Warranty (GF3B1000UP)

It is self powered with connection to usb and power cord. Thanks for your help.

[auggie]

Try not to get something to Large, the T5 may have problems recognizing it, plus the (Fat32 Format restriction, etc.)

[The Noof]

I use 500gb ssds' on our t5s.Format is using disk manager with windblows 7 to the fat32 file system.Works like a charm.
The ssds' use only a fraction of the power that hdds' use.

[auggie]

The fat32 file system, has a hard time with file sizes above 4gb, so Video movies etc. can be larger than that.

[lionking]

I am going to get 2 of the above self powered 1 tb another for the dl v.1 hd box. The portable external hd seems to want to format everytime I edit the PVR time. Also besides formatting the new external usb drives to fat32 is it also important to convert from primary to logical drive. Would that be important to change or leave it as primary? Please let me know. Thanks in advance.

[auggie]

Don't think it matters (primary,logical) just plug into PC/Lap. and format to Fat32
You may even be able to do it (Format) with the T5, ?? I Don't use a T5 so not sure on it.

[The Noof]

The fat32 file system, has a hard time with file sizes above 4gb, so Video movies etc. can be larger than that.

Downloaded "The Alamo", a 6.9gb movie without issue...ssd/fat32

[auggie]

Downloaded "The Alamo", a 6.9gb movie without issue...ssd/fat32

Downloading large file sizes is not the issue, it comes into Play when working with that file (converting,splitting,etc.)
with the newer O.S. I believe. Individual files on a FAT32 drive can't be over 4 GB in size—that's the maximum. A FAT32 partition must also be less than 8 TB, which admittedly is less of a limitation unless you're using super-high-capacity drives.Mar 30, 2018

[lionking]

I use 500gb ssds' on our t5s.Format is using disk manager with windblows 7 to the fat32 file system.Works like a charm.
The ssds' use only a fraction of the power that hdds' use.

I may start using those too, but the issue are the connectors 3.0 USB-C.

You would have to use an adapter for the USB Port I would think....USB-C female to standard USB male.

I could be wrong though.

Anyone else have an answer for this that would work?

Thanks in advance

[countysat]

I may start using those too, but the issue are the connectors 3.0 USB-C.
You would have to use an adapter for the USB Port I would think....USB-C female to standard USB male.
I could be wrong though.
Anyone else have an answer for this that would work?
Thanks in advance

2.5" internal sata ssd put in an enclosure
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[lionking]

I have just received the new .Fantom 1 TB 7200 RPM USB 3.0/2.0 External Hard Drive.

I decided to just go with the 500 GB instead connected it to my Dreamlink T5 HD and received Invalid USB.

I tried to reboot both External Hard Drive and Dreamlink and it showed up the same.

I disconnected it then formatted it to FAT 32 with EaseUS Partition Master then connected it back to the Dreamlink and it still shows Invalid USB.

I don't know what else I can do, but could someone please help me because this new external drive is self powered plugs in and still should not have this issue.

Thanks in advance.

Update: I was finally able to get it to work without the window popping up with the error....Invalid USB.

It seems I had to shut off the switch of the Dreamlink at the back wait 30 seconds or so.

I then also turned off the switch on the new external drive waited awhile then turned the the switch back on for the external drive.

Waited 30 seconds again then turned on the switch of the Dreamlink then it finally recognized.

The Dreamlink is very tricky to connected to any external drive as a PVR it seems.

I have found now the Dreamlink is recording the PVR right now without any freezing of the video what so ever.

[auggie]

Yes the DL'S can be Finicky, which I believe is related to Power issues it has (not enough power to run everything)

[The Noof]

I have just received the new .Fantom 1 TB 7200 RPM USB 3.0/2.0 External Hard Drive.

I decided to just go with the 500 GB instead connected it to my Dreamlink T5 HD and received Invalid USB.

I tried to reboot both External Hard Drive and Dreamlink and it showed up the same.

I disconnected it then formatted it to FAT 32 with EaseUS Partition Master then connected it back to the Dreamlink and it still shows Invalid USB.

I don't know what else I can do, but could someone please help me because this new external drive is self powered plugs in and still should not have this issue.

Thanks in advance.

Update: I was finally able to get it to work without the window popping up with the error....Invalid USB.

It seems I had to shut off the switch of the Dreamlink at the back wait 30 seconds or so.

I then also turned off the switch on the new external drive waited awhile then turned the the switch back on for the external drive.

Waited 30 seconds again then turned on the switch of the Dreamlink then it finally recognized.

The Dreamlink is very tricky to connected to any external drive as a PVR it seems.

I have found now the Dreamlink is recording the PVR right now without any freezing of the video what so ever.

I love a happy ending...lol

[lionking]

It did work for awhile on my DL T5, but then it froze and went scrambled unfortunately.

The external hard drive only will work with pvr is it is set manually by pushing the record button when epg guide is up.

The other issues is the new external drive does not like recording one pvr after another that is why it froze up.

I started from scratch with the rebooting of the external drive and my box.

I then tried to do a format from the box, then set it to record only 1 pvr.

After I set up another pvr I watched it but maybe 32x was too much and it stopped by going back to the pvr menu the screen was broken up showing what is on live and the pvr menu.

I disconnected the hard drive and reconnected to my DL T1 box and it recognized it right away so far I just did a manual pvr recording on it and set it up for a timed pvr recording.

I will give u an update later on what has happened.

If it goes well for the DL T1 HD box I will keep the external drive.

I will return at least one of the external drives back for a refund then order a 500 GB SSD which comes with a USB C to USB C and another cable that is USB C to USB A.

This could be connected to the USB of the DL T5.

[lionking]

Now is the time is the time for the update the 500 GB Fanthom Drive.

This external drive works very well with the DL T1 receiver, but of course as I said issues with the DL T5 with this drive.

Today I tried to format a 500 GB SSD from other to FAT32, and the DL T5 did recognize the drive without showing error INVALID DRIVE.

However, when I tried to record with the external SSD the video again froze up and showed scrambled.

I even tried to re format the SSD through FORMAT on the DL T5 and it just showed PLEASE WAIT and then nothing.

Now I will have to re format the SSD back to other and try to return it back for a refund too.

Is there another way of connecting an external usb drive to the DL T5 so it does not show any of these errors?

Thanks in advance.

[The Noof]

Now is the time is the time for the update the 500 GB Fanthom Drive.

This external drive works very well with the DL T1 receiver, but of course as I said issues with the DL T5 with this drive.

Today I tried to format a 500 GB SSD from other to FAT32, and the DL T5 did recognize the drive without showing error INVALID DRIVE.

However, when I tried to record with the external SSD the video again froze up and showed scrambled.

I even tried to re format the SSD through FORMAT on the DL T5 and it just showed PLEASE WAIT and then nothing.

Now I will have to re format the SSD back to other and try to return it back for a refund too.

Is there another way of connecting an external usb drive to the DL T5 so it does not show any of these errors?

Thanks in advance.

Ihave 2 t5s' in service that do not have this issue bro.I'm not using "fantom" brand ssds'. i don't know wh t to tell you. the adata brand,500gb work well for me.

[lionking]

Ihave 2 t5s' in service that do not have this issue bro.I'm not using "fantom" brand ssds'. i don't know wh t to tell you. the adata brand,500gb work well for me.

Oh I wasn't using a fanthom brand ssd it was a Samsung ssd

As far as what you are using right now...

Are you talking about this one?

ADATA USA DashDriv Durable HD650 1TB Anti-Shock Portable External Hard Drive - Black (AHD650-1TU3-CBK) ?

[auggie]

I also found/heard that Western Digital powered drives work well with DL's

[lionking]

I also found/heard that Western Digital powered drives work well with DL's

Yes they do work well, but hard to find right now unless I could find a new one on fleabay.

I did have one before with it's own power cord it was used when I bought it then went on me.

I also had a Lacie self powered external usb it was over 15 years old and finally went.

[lionking]

This question is for The Noof next time your are logged in here....

Your have mentioned you go with adata brand 500gb for the DL HD T5.

I cannot right now find that adata brand in a 500gb size only 1TB and higher.

Please tell me does the adata brand external drives when I have seen pictures of them and they have no plug and cord connection just a USB connection would work better than other external drives that are also not self-powered?

Thanks in advance.

[The Noof]

This question is for The Noof next time your are logged in here....

Your have mentioned you go with adata brand 500gb for the DL HD T5.

I cannot right now find that adata brand in a 500gb size only 1TB and higher.

Please tell me does the adata brand external drives when I have seen pictures of them and they have no plug and cord connection just a USB connection would work better than other external drives that are also not self-powered?

Thanks in advance.

I've had this several years:may not even be made anymore.It seems a TB & larger is what the people want.I will find the model # for you when I get home

[lionking]

Could you please let me know when you will be home. Thanks.

[lionking]

Please move post up. Thanks in advance.

[The Noof]

ADATA HV620.We are using 2 of them with great sucess.I formated them using disk manager to FAT32 file system on a Windows 7 64 pc before using.

[peterpeete]

Hello your
You could use something like this: hxxps://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Aluminum-Enclosure-Cooling-EC-UEIS7/dp/B001PHLMAE/ref=sr_1_13?keywords=powered+hard+drive+enclosure& qid=1571624056&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_fo ur_browse-bin%3A6022609011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_browse-bin%3A5492129011&rnid=2886899011&s=pc&sr=1-13

Don't work do you have another

[peterpeete]

Ihave 2 t5s' in service that do not have this issue bro.I'm not using "fantom" brand ssds'. i don't know wh t to tell you. the adata brand,500gb work well for me.

the adata brand,500gb is it SSD, can you show me...

[peterpeete]

I also found/heard that Western Digital powered drives work well with DL's

Wich model....

[auggie]

SSD's are better cause they take less power, than regular HDD'S

[easy b]

SSD's are better cause they take less power, than regular HDD'S

so usb powered ssd will work with t5 ?thanks

[The Noof]

so usb powered ssd will work with t5 ?thanks

Yes...........at least in the case of the adata

[auggie]

I believe Western Digital is another brand that works well with T5

[lionking]

I believe Western Digital is another brand that works well with T5

Update: I was told earlier to use an SSD in a powered enclosure so I used a WD internal SSD because that is the only SSD would work with the enclosure.

Do not purchase an external SSD it will not work.

I tried it on my T3 after I used easeus partition master to format it to FAT 32 first as a primary drive which showed up as an INVALID DRIVE then I used convert to Logical that did not work either.

External powered USB drives used to work on the T3 which still work on my DL T1 box.

Some say I should only run one SAT on the T3 because right now it cannot handle SAT 110 and SAT 91 that could be overpowering the T3.

However I used to run SAT 110, 119 and 91 and at one time SAT 129 on both T3 and T1 the external usb powered worked on both boxes.

I have tried to unplug the T3 unhook the SAT 110 from the disque switch and it still showed up as INVALID DRIVE for the PVR.

Could it be that the T3 is slowly going and cannot handle any PVR that is powered has to be plugged in of course not to use the power of the Dreamlink.

Someone please let me know what else I can use so I don't keep on getting this INVALID DRIVE for PVR.

Thanks in advance.

[auggie]

I still believe your problem is power related, not enough to run "ALL" the power-hungry equipment
needed currently/today. these FTA Boxes when they first came out, were not designed to run all this stuff
that's required Now-days etc.

[The Noof]

I still believe your problem is power related, not enough to run "ALL" the power-hungry equipment
needed currently/today. these FTA Boxes when they first came out, were not designed to run all this stuff
that's required Now-days etc.

I told him what has worked several times for me:adata ssd.Has to be formatted using disk manager windows utility.I hvave 6 out there now on t4/t5.Work like a charm

[lionking]

Thank you The Noof.

I believe that it could be the power supply and cord that had been replaced due to T5 rebooting.

I could be wrong when it comes to issues with PVR, but before it did no have issues with that PVR before then.

The DL T1 is still running on original power supply cord and external powered USB Drive.

However I will try one more time with the Adata SSD which I have questions for...

Does the Adata SSD come with it's own enclosure with power supply, and is the SSD and internal SSD or does the power supply enclosure allow an external SSD?

Please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

[Bluegrass]

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I hope you get everything sorted out lionking
Our members are a terrific help for sure!!

Have a great week everyone!!

[The Noof]

It is enclosed, but powered by the usb port on the dreamlink.An ssd uses the same amount of power a usb thumb drive usues.If the dreamlink powers one, it will power the other.Could very well be a power supply issue.I have not had any ps issues as of yet, but I did try to remedy a sat signal issue with a larger power supply on 1 T5, but it wasn't the issue:it was the dl200.

This is the one we use:hxxps://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1465&item_id=105313

[lionking]

Update: before I went with an Adata SSD I ordered a powered enclosure for an internal SSD.

I finally decided to disconnect Sat 110 from the Disque Switch.

Now I am only running Sat 91 directly to the T5. I tried connecting that powered SSD in the enclosure, but still freezes up showing scrambled Channel.

I will be ordering the Adata SSD to work with the stubborn T5.

Also a WD powdered USB would not work.

I decided also to go with only one Sat 91 so a Zinwell Switch I won't bother with.

[auggie]

You say: Now I am only running Sat 91 directly to the T5. I tried connecting that powered SSD in the enclosure, but still freezes up showing scrambled Channel. What exactly is "FREEZING UP" The T5 or the SSD ??
If it's the T5 (Freezing) then you have some other problem that's not related to connecting that powered SSD is my guess ?

[lionking]

You say: Now I am only running Sat 91 directly to the T5. I tried connecting that powered SSD in the enclosure, but still freezes up showing scrambled Channel. What exactly is "FREEZING UP" The T5 or the SSD ??
If it's the T5 (Freezing) then you have some other problem that's not related to connecting that powered SSD is my guess ?

If it is the T5 let's say what can be done? A System recovery?

I also don't know if it can be the power supply adapter or not everything else is working fine on the T5.

[auggie]

Process of elimination, tracking it down, are you "ONLY" hooked up to one Sat. (91) or are there still others (110,119) hooked up as well. Suggest ONLY Setup on one Sat. say (91) no switches, etc. in the equation (single cable) direct to T5, run for a while as is
no (usb/pvr, plugged in) see if acts up, then get a small 4-8gb USB Stick/thumb-drive for PVR, Try it and see if acts up etc.
You have to TAKE One Step at a time, and track down what is causing your issue/problem.
I still believe it is a power issue (power adapter,board,caps,etc.) but you will have to find it.

[surfinisfun]

Could be the unusual amount of porn recorded.lol

Most thumb drives need a change, along with hands when needed.;)

[lionking]

Please let's stay on topic here.

The bot who is the main Mod has said that in various threads.

When it does not stay on topic hoping this thread will not be closed.

Anyway I ordered a Sandisk 8gb flash drive, and this is for anything else than porn.

[The Noof]

Please let's stay on topic here.

The bot who is the main Mod has said that in various threads.

When it does not stay on topic hoping this thread will not be closed.

Anyway I ordered a Sandisk 8gb flash drive, and this is for anything else than porn.

I'm sure he meant it in jest bro.

[Bluegrass]

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kind of a hijack but....

Let's stay chill and happy

All the best and good luck lionking

[lionking]

I'm sure he meant it in jest bro.

No problem I am cool with it.

Update: I received the Sandisk flash drive, and currently testing it. I will let you know the outcome of it soon.

New Update: I tried the Sandisk flash drive, and I even made sure it was formatted using easeus partition master for FAT32.
This is a 8GB flash drive because I could not get a hold of a 4GB flash drive, and unfortunately it gave me Invalid USB again.

I don't know what else to do about this T5, but I have heard since I have only running 91 on one dish through one LNB using one barrel connection to T5.

The other barrrel connector to T1.

This is just an idea, I went on Dish Settings under LNB Power instead of both of the DL boxes showing as On could one of them be 13v....the other would be 18v which I have saved afterward.

This did not work Invalid USB again.

Anyway I did a reboot to see if it will record and so far it is recording.

I will let you know later on if it freezes up goes scrambled on another update.

[lionking]

It just froze up and scrambled again so I really don't know what else to do maybe I have to do a factory recovery....factory bin...then newest bin I can't think of anything else.

Anyone else has any more ideas on how to solve this this?

Thanks in advance.

[auggie]

Did you make sure to turn off power to all LNB'S not in use or not being used ?
Any glitch with the T5 while recording "WILL" cause the recording to Freeze
Also possible HD Module or power cord adapter on it's way out ?

[lionking]

Did you make sure to turn off power to all LNB'S not in use or not being used ?
Any glitch with the T5 while recording "WILL" cause the recording to Freeze
Also possible HD Module or power cord adapter on it's way out ?

Yes all power turned off on all LNB'S not in use or not being used

I also decided to format one of my sandisk flash drives then do a copy paste of factory bin newest bin and proper name for T5

Just in case turning off server port for 110 and it has red bars.

Doing a new scan for 91 right now Power on Type Single Frequency 11.250 22KHz off including DiSEqC 1.0 and 1.1 and Legacy SW

Signal and Quality blue bars in the low to mid 90s

Trying a record for PVR now...cross my fingers.....

Nope it froze again.

[auggie]

Do you have a spare power adapter you can try instead of the one your using ?

[lionking]

Do you have a spare power adapter you can try instead of the one your using ?

I could see if I can find one.

Also I have LNB Power turned off on all SATS for Dish Settings the only thing is I still have 110 showing up through 91 with blue bars.

Could it be because I shouldn't have used the file for proper names?

Now the bars have gone red for SAT 110.

I am trying rec for PVR again, and I have found a power supply adapter that is 12v 1.5 and looks like the second one I used for the T5 not the original one.

I took this power supply adapter off a powered external usb drive...could that work?

[auggie]

Could be, don't load any Sat files, i would do a factory reset, then redo your settings on 91 "only"
no switches,etc. straight hookup (one cable) and SCAN IN CHANNELS (sat. scan) try to run bare bones etc.
I would also try a different power supply too 12v 3-5amp rated anything below 3amp is not going to do it

[lionking]

Could be, don't load any Sat files, i would do a factory reset, then redo your settings on 91 "only"
no switches,etc. straight hookup (one cable) and SCAN IN CHANNELS (sat. scan) try to run bare bones etc.
I would also try a different power supply too 12v 3-5amp rated anything below 3amp is not going to do it

Yes I will do the above and is this what I should exactly be doing.

Is this what I should be buying?

12V 3A Power Supply Adapter Universal Convert AC 100-240V to DC with 5mm Output (2pack)

[auggie]

Yes I will do the above and is this what I should exactly be doing.

Is this what I should be buying?

12V 3A Power Supply Adapter Universal Convert AC 100-240V to DC with 5mm Output (2pack)

Yes that should do it

[lionking]

Update: After I did a factory update I made sure all Sats that were not in use LNB Power off.

I noticed 2 Sats 119 and 129 showed up Sat 91 which is the only Sat I am connected to.

Even after I turned off LNB Power showed blue bars s&q which then I had to switch from 11.250 to something else in LNB Frequency then bars went to red.

Right now so far using PVR to record with 8GB Sandisk Flash Drive, and still recording.

I will let you now how it goes how long it will record in the next update.

[lionking]

Unfortunately it didn't work.....froze up and scrambled.

Update: I did another factory set in System Recovery then discovered Sats 119 and 129 still said Sat 91 in the corner with blue bars still.

Even when LNB Power was off or on I then went down again to the line for LNB Frequency and saved both Sats as 00.00 which I hope will work with PVR this time.

I then rescanned channels for Sat 91 afterwards.

If this doesn't work for PVR I will let you know in

[lionking]

Update:

Unfortunately even after I listened to instructions, and completed them again using Sandisk 8GB Flash drive after 10 minutes froze and scrambled.

Is there a chance maybe I bought the wrong power supply adapter or it should be 12 volt 5 amp instead of 12 volt 3-5?

I know it still changes channels none of the rebooting the original power supply adapter did.

I do have another idea for a power supply which maybe going backwards having a cord then a box then a cord

This was found on Amazon.

Hope this no cause T5 rebooting again.

Description
Parameters:
Input Voltage: 100V-240V
Output: 12V 5A
Plug: US type
Interface Specification: 5.5mm * 2.5mm
With overvoltage, overcurrent, short circuit protection
Package includes
1 x US Power Adapter.

If you wish I can include a picture of it in another post... please let me know.

Thanks in advance

[auggie]

Are you using a single cable for one Sat-91 "only" no switches, no other Sat-cables (110,119,etc.) in the mix hooked up as well
One single cable, one LNB, Straight to receiver, Any Hiccup/glitch (server,weather,internet,module,etc.) will cause it to freeze
lockup, etc. it might be your HD Module going, internet up/down, will have to track it down ??

[lionking]

Are you using a single cable for one Sat-91 "only" no switches, no other Sat-cables (110,119,etc.) in the mix hooked up as well
One single cable, one LNB, Straight to receiver, Any Hiccup/glitch (server,weather,internet,module,etc.) will cause it to freeze
lockup, etc. it might be your HD Module going, internet up/down, will have to track it down ??

From LNB RG6 cable Sat 91 connected by a barrel connector.

LNBs for Sat 110 and 119 still on Sat dish with 2 RG6 cables not connected to any switch or T5 box.

Do you think maybe if I cut those 110 and 119 cable because they could be causing some interference?

I also have another idea which maybe going backwards for another power supply adapter having a cord then a box then a cord to plug into surge bar.

This was found on Amazon.

Hope this no cause T5 rebooting again.

Description
Parameters:
Input Voltage: 100V-240V
Output: 12V 5A
Plug: US type
Interface Specification: 5.5mm * 2.5mm
With overvoltage, overcurrent, short circuit protection
Package includes
1 x US Power Adapter.

If you wish I can include a picture of it in another post...

please let me know.

[auggie]

Try it without the surge bar, and the power adapter with the block in middle (cord off each end) I have found are not the best
Also with T5 in server settings turn off the ones not in use.

[lionking]

Try it without the surge bar, and the power adapter with the block in middle (cord off each end) I have found are not the best
Also with T5 in server settings turn off the ones not in use.

Plugging in directly to the wall outlet same freezing.

All Sats that are not in use LNB power off.

I will keep on looking for 12 volt 5 amp without the block connected to the cord.

[auggie]

Are you using a new power adapter 12v 3amp (ones you just got) or a old one
If new then I believe it's not the power adapter, something else is causing it to freeze ?

[lionking]

Are you using a new power adapter 12v 3amp (ones you just got) or a old one
If new then I believe it's not the power adapter, something else is causing it to freeze ?

Yes I am using the new one I asked you about in one of the posts in this thread.

Could it be the manufacturer of the power supply adapter that is causing the freezing or if I took the power supply that came with the Dreamlink T1 and connect it to the T5 because no issue with PVR on the T1 which does not have that block (transformer) between the power cables.

[auggie]

i don't think it's the power adapter doing it, it might even be a heat issue, try this:
If you can, take the top cover off T5 and get a fan blowing air down over HD Module & board while running/recording
see if it still freezes ? Your Module Maybe over heating.

[lionking]

i don't think it's the power adapter doing it, it might even be a heat issue, try this:
If you can, take the top cover off T5 and get a fan blowing air down over HD Module & board while running/recording
see if it still freezes ? Your Module Maybe over heating.

Are you talking about a portable fan or a laptop cooler?

[auggie]

A portable fan, a laptop cooler won't do much from below
I mounted a CPU fan in the top cover of my T4 blowing air down over everything keeping it cool
(No heat issues)

[lionking]

A portable fan, a laptop cooler won't do much from below
I mounted a CPU fan in the top cover of my T4 blowing air down over everything keeping it cool
(No heat issues)

I know I an not that tech savy to be able to connect a CPU fan on the top cover, and how would that fan be powered.

I guess the DL T1 does not have as much overheating issues as the T5 has.

Maybe if I was given instructions on what quiet fan would be needed including tools.

Update: I did a google search and found on another FTA website about DL T5 fan to keep cool.

If a person like me that would not be able to physically install a fan the other is not a portable fan or laptop cooler, but called a muffin fan 120 volt that would blow cool air from the top to keep from overheating.

There is a plug to a wall outlet for power plug and play.

AC Infinity AXIAL LS1238, Quiet Muffin Fan, 120V AC 120mm x 38mm Low Speed, for DIY Cooling Ventilation Exhaust Projects

[auggie]

"TRY" (Experiment for possible Heat issues) take top cover off and place a portable fan next to it
pointing down so it will blow air across the HD Module & Power board etc. while running/recording with T5
and see if it acts up or not. These Boxes are cheaply made with poor electronics, which can cause heat issues
Plus the fact the box is so Small heat has no where to go. Process of elimination to pin point your problem,
Or move on to the next best thing that works ??

[lionking]

"TRY" (Experiment for possible Heat issues) take top cover off and place a portable fan next to it
pointing down so it will blow air across the HD Module & Power board etc. while running/recording with T5
and see if it acts up or not. These Boxes are cheaply made with poor electronics, which can cause heat issues
Plus the fact the box is so Small heat has no where to go. Process of elimination to pin point your problem,
Or move on to the next best thing that works ??

It took me a little longer because some other things I had to take care of.

I didn't try the fan over the T5 with the top cover off, but decided to use the muffet fan which runs on its own power non USB I mean.

I remember in 1 post you made in this thread about doing some kind of remod on a T5 connected to the top cover of it that us why I decided to use a muffin which is close to what you have done.

It is a little noisy.... cools off the top of box down to room temperature or more.

Doing a PVR test....it's working no freezing or scrambled....usually stops working 10 to 15 minutes.

PVR still going over 20 minutes has not stopped.

Do you think I should go with another muffin fan which maybe less noisy which would work the same that has adjustable speeds?

Please let me know.

[auggie]

How noisy is the fan when watching TV, does the noise from it over power the TV or
in other words can "YOU" live with it when TV is on.?? Does your HD Module have a Rubber or Metal Heatsink on it ?
Also what you can do, is cut a Hole in top cover (just slightly smaller than fan you use) and fasten the fan to it
blowing down over stuff (with Hole=More air-flow=More cooling) I used a Dremel tool to cut a aprox. 2"-3" hole in my T4 COVER
AND with some tap screws mounted the fan. your Module should have heatsink like this one


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[lionking]

How noisy is the fan when watching TV, does the noise from it over power the TV or
in other words can "YOU" live with it when TV is on.?? Does your HD Module have a Rubber or Metal Heatsink on it ?
Also what you can do, is cut a Hole in top cover (just slightly smaller than fan you use) and fasten the fan to it
blowing down over stuff (with Hole=More air-flow=More cooling) I used a Dremel tool to cut a aprox. 2"-3" hole in my T4 COVER
AND with some tap screws mounted the fan.

I am still able to hear the tv when it is plugged in except I unplug the fan when I don't have to record the PVR or to watch it.

The HD module has a rubber heat sink.

The fan is all metal no plastic parts however it is to big to fit inside the T5...inside the top cover.

[auggie]

Mount it on "TOP" of cover That's what I did, sure it doesn't look Great but IT DOES THE JOB NEEDED

[lionking]

Mount it on "TOP" of cover That's what I did, sure it doesn't look Great but IT DOES THE JOB NEEDED

Yes I will, but do you think if I added Sat 110 connected to the T5 would that be overkill now that we know it's an overheating issue?

[auggie]

Yes I will, but do you think if I added Sat 110 connected to the T5 would that be overkill now that we know it's an overheating issue?

All you can do is "TRY" That is the only way you will find out, keep it as simple, as possible (bare bones) "LESS=MORE"
I DON'T even bother with South Birds anymore, (down more than up, IMO)

[lionking]

Update:

The Muffin Fan so far is working the only issue is that I would have to reboot the box every couple of days because if I want to delete the pvr recording it formats the whole external flash drive.

The next move to make is to go to an SSD external drive and see if there is no issue with that, and if there is the next one would be to use an enclosure with an internal SSD drive to plug in which would would have an external power source.