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Dish Doctor
04-26-2010, 02:14 AM
Well NASCAR race fans the All-Star Weekend is fast approaching, and I told you at the start of the season that things would be different this year, so we are going to have our own Showdown and All-Star races. I have started this thread earlier than usuall so you all can read it and get it figured out. Please be aware that some of the drivers are not in the lineups yet, so hold off on your picks until that week.

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This race will be a little different from our standard weekly race pool.

Rules are a little different, so pay close attention....


Showdown Race....


This race will invlove those that have NOT won yet this year in the NASCAR Pool here. This will be your qualifing opportunity to get into the All-Star Race.
For those that have already won a race this season in the NASCAR Pool here, you can skip this step and proceed down to the All-Star Race selection.

There will be three transfer spots.....

Pick the correct winning driver from the list below, pick closest to the lap number of the first caution lap, pick closest to the lap number of the last caution lap, (caution lap picks are for tie breakers) and your the winner for the Showdown Race! The person that picked the closest to all of the above will be transferred into the All-Star Race with all of the winners of previous weeks from this years NASCAR Pool. We will take the second and third place finishers as well, but those two positions will not be recognized with a weekly title change

This race is for fun, so no points will be awarded for the season, but the winner will have the weekly title change, and be listed in the weekly winners thread.

You will need to pick your Showdown driver selection, as well as, your All-Star Selection. In the event that you should win and transfer your selection for the All-Star race will already be posted here and be ready due to the close timing of the All-Star Race.

Example....

Showdown Driver: 7 Robby Gordon
FCL: Lap # 10
LCL: Lap # 30

All-Star Driver: 24 Jeff Gordon
FCL: Lap # 10
LCL: Lap # 70

Remember this is a 40 lap race, with two 20 lap segments, so choose your picks wisely. Deadline is 30 minutes prior to the greenflag. Race time is 7:30 p.m. EST Saturday, May 22, 2010

Here is the driver list (no particular order)

6 David Ragan
7 Robby Gordon
13 Max Papis
16 Greg Biffle
19 Elliott Sadler
21 Bill Elliott
31 Jeff Burton
33 Clint Bowyer
34 Travis Kvapil
36 Tony Raines
37 Kevin Conway*
38 David Gilliland
42 Juan Montoya
43 A.J. Allmendinger
46 J.J. Yeley
47 Marcos Ambrose
55 Michael Waltrip
56 Martin Truex Jr.
77 Sam Hornish Jr.
78 Regan Smith
82 Scott Speed
87 Joe Nemechek
98 Paul Menard
99 Carl Edwards
132 Reed Sorenson
157 Norm Benning
164 Todd Bodine
175 Derrike Cope
192 Robert Richardson Jr.

* Denotes Rookie

All-Star Race....


This race will invlove those that have won this year in the NASCAR Pool here, as well as the transfer winners from the Showdown race.

Here are the eligable participants....

MonsterMinds™
Night Prowler
marlo803
msav
mike5752
Dish Doctor
eyeQ
costactc
buckets88
publicraven
Showdown 1st Place Finisher
Showdown 2nd Place Finisher
Showdown 3rd Place Finisher
Showdown 4th Place Finisher (added due to only four showdown entries)

Pick the correct winning driver from the list below, pick closest to the lap number of the first caution lap, pick closest to the lap number of the last caution lap, (caution lap picks are for tie breakers) and your the winner for the All-Star Race!

This race is also for fun, so no points will be awarded for the season, but the winner will have the weekly title change, and be listed in the weekly winners thread.

Example....

Driver: 24 Jeff Gordon
FCL: Lap # 10
LCL: Lap # 70

Remember this is a 100 lap race, so choose your picks wisely. Deadline is 30 minutes prior to the greenflag. Race time is 7:30 p.m. EST Saturday, May 22, 2010.

Race format is as follows, so pick your caution laps accordingly (not the manditory caution laps)

ALL-STAR CHALLENGE FORMAT
The 2010 format is as follows:
· Segment 1: 50 laps with a mandatory green-flag pit stop on Lap 25 at which time teams must pit and take on four tires. Following the end of Segment 1, the caution flag will be displayed for an optional pit stop.
· Segment 2: 20 laps with the caution flag displayed at the end of Segment 2 for an optional pit stop.
· Segment 3: 20 laps with a 10-minute break at the end of Segment 3. Teams may make normal adjustments to their cars during this break. The finishing order after the third segment determines the field’s lineup for the pace lap prior to the start of the fourth segment.
· Segment 4: Once the field takes a lap behind the pace car, all cars must enter pit road for a four-tire stop. The order in which the cars exit pit road is how they will line up for the 10-lap shootout with only green-flag laps counting.



Here is the driver list (no particular order)

48 Jimmie Johnson
5 Mark Martin
24 Jeff Gordon
2 Kurt Busch
11 Denny Hamlin
14 Tony Stewart
39 Ryan Newman
9 Kasey Kahne
83 Casey Mears
18 Kyle Busch
17 Matt Kenseth
00 David Reutimann
29 Kevin Harvick
20 Joey Logano
1 Jamie McMurray
88 Dale Earnhardt Jr.
12 Brad Keselowski
71 Bobby Labonte
Showdown 1st Place Finisher
Showdown 2nd Place Finisher
Fan Vote Winner


Good luck everbody, and let's go racing!

Dish Doctor
05-16-2010, 10:28 PM
Okay folks, this one is officially off and running now.

The only thing I have to do is verfify the entry list for the showdown (aka figure out what no-name farks are going to make an half assed attempt!)

marlo803
05-20-2010, 01:10 AM
there are mandatory 4-tire pit stops in this race and maybe others.

they will be done under caution and the lap they are done is announced

befor the race.can we pick these laps as our caution laps.i think the

caution lap picks are gonna very important in this race.:yes:

just wondering!good luck all race poolers except eye-Q.you don't

need it.lol

Dish Doctor
05-20-2010, 01:46 AM
there are mandatory 4-tire pit stops in this race and maybe others.

they will be done under caution and the lap they are done is announced

befor the race.can we pick these laps as our caution laps.i think the

caution lap picks are gonna very important in this race.:yes:

just wondering!good luck all race poolers except eye-Q.you don't

need it.lol

Very good question.

Being as how those caution laps are a given (or we already know what laps they will be) I am going to say no, we cannot pick these laps, as the caution laps you choose in your picks are for tie breakers.

Reason being.....if we all pick the same caution laps (the manditory caution laps) we will all have the same picks, and there will be no way to determine a winner from a tie.

I have no problem with sharing the winner's circle with one or two people, but it is kinda hard to fit all 15 - 20 of us in there :D

I hope that answers your question. If not, please reply, and I will address your questions again. :thumbsup:

Dish Doctor
05-20-2010, 02:18 AM
Main post has been updated with driver entry lists, and race formats for picking of caution laps.

Pick your caution laps accroding to the format (in other words, do not pick the manditory caution laps). :D

marlo803
05-21-2010, 01:13 AM
Very good question.

Being as how those caution laps are a given (or we already know what laps they will be) I am going to say no, we cannot pick these laps, as the caution laps you choose in your picks are for tie breakers.

Reason being.....if we all pick the same caution laps (the manditory caution laps) we will all have the same picks, and there will be no way to determine a winner from a tie.

I have no problem with sharing the winner's circle with one or two people, but it is kinda hard to fit all 15 - 20 of us in there :D

I hope that answers your question. If not, please reply, and I will address your questions again. :thumbsup:

suit's me.i think the winner's circle will be shared also:yeaah:

Night Prowler
05-21-2010, 05:00 AM
question.......Can we not pick one of the showdown drivers or fan favorite......I think Michael Waltrip was a showdown winner and the All star winner......:D

mike5752
05-21-2010, 12:39 PM
All Star Driver #9 Kasey Kahne *maybe the car will hold together*
FCL:15
LCL:97

Dish Doctor
05-21-2010, 08:33 PM
question.......Can we not pick one of the showdown drivers or fan favorite......I think Michael Waltrip was a showdown winner and the All star winner......:D

For those of us that have already made it into the All Star race, I do not see any reason you could not pick the Fan Vote Favorite, the Showdown 1st Place Finisher, or the Showdown Second Place Finisher.

Bare this in mind though..... [hint] The Showdown drivers that transfer rarely win the All-Star race, as the engines for the Showdown drivers rarely make it through both races.

Just remember that this would only apply to those of us that already won at least once this year in the pool here, and have already qualified for the All-Star race.

Those that have not won at least once this year here in the NASCAR pool would need to pick a driver (not the option of Fan Vote Favorite, the Showdown 1st Place Finisher, or the Showdown Second Place Finisher) in hopes that their pick will win the Showdown race, and make it into the All-Star race.

In other words there will only be a maximum of 13 of us in the All-Star race (10 eligible previous winners in the NASCAR pool, and the top three from the Showdown race.)

Night Prowler
05-22-2010, 04:43 AM
Thanks Doc....I guess I was more concerned about the 30 minute before race deadline.....:D

There are atleast 3 that I would seriously consider if they make it in.....:thumbsup:

Costactc
05-22-2010, 11:24 AM
Here we go:

88 Dale Earnhardt Jr.

FCL 11
LCL 89

marlo803
05-22-2010, 11:44 AM
Kyle Busch

fcl #17

lcl #97

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 12:32 PM
Thanks Doc....I guess I was more concerned about the 30 minute before race deadline.....:D

There are atleast 3 that I would seriously consider if they make it in.....:thumbsup:

I do not think the 30 minute deadline has ever been taken seriously, and I am normally sitting here on the computer as the race is getting ready to start to take those last minute enteries.

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 12:40 PM
RACE LINEUP
Showdown | Charlotte Motor Speedway
May 22, 2010 | Exhibition
RAIN OUT Position Based on Owner Points

POS CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR SPEED TIME BEHIND
1 6 David Ragan Ford UPS N/A N/A N/A
2 13 Max Papis Toyota GEICO N/A N/A N/A
3 77 Sam Hornish Jr. Dodge Mobil 1 N/A N/A N/A
4 37 Kevin Conway* Ford Extenze N/A N/A N/A
5 16 Greg Biffle Ford 3M N/A N/A N/A
6 132 Reed Sorenson Toyota Dollar General N/A N/A N/A
7 21 Bill Elliott Ford Motorcraft / Quick Lane Tire & Auto Center N/A N/A N/A
8 43 A.J. Allmendinger Ford "Racing Dreams" / Best Buy N/A N/A N/A
9 33 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet BB&T N/A N/A N/A
10 7 Robby Gordon Toyota Robby Gordon Motorsports N/A N/A N/A
11 78 Regan Smith Chevrolet Furniture Row Companies N/A N/A N/A
12 98 Paul Menard Ford Serta / Menards N/A N/A N/A
13 55 Michael Waltrip Toyota Red Rocks Cafe / Tech South, Inc. N/A N/A N/A
14 42 Juan Montoya Chevrolet Target N/A N/A N/A
15 157 Norm Benning Chevrolet Norm Benning Racing N/A N/A N/A
16 19 Elliott Sadler Ford Hunt Brothers Pizza N/A N/A N/A
17 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet Caterpillar N/A N/A N/A
18 82 Scott Speed Toyota Red Bull N/A N/A N/A
19 47 Marcos Ambrose Toyota Cavalia N/A N/A N/A
20 56 Martin Truex Jr. Toyota NAPA Auto Parts N/A N/A N/A
21 164 Todd Bodine Toyota Gunselman Motorsports N/A N/A N/A
22 192 Robert Richardson Jr. Dodge The Grill Topper.com N/A N/A N/A
23 46 J.J. Yeley Dodge Whitney Motorsports N/A N/A N/A
24 34 Travis Kvapil Ford Long John Silver's Baja Fish Tacos N/A N/A N/A
25 87 Joe Nemechek Toyota FrontRowJoe.com N/A N/A N/A
26 99 Carl Edwards Ford Aflac N/A N/A N/A
27 36 Tony Raines Chevrolet Tommy Baldwin Racing N/A N/A N/A
28 175 Derrike Cope Dodge Charter N/A N/A N/A
29 38 David Gilliland Ford Taco Bell N/A N/A N/A

+ Set by Owner Points
* Denotes Rookie


RACE LINEUP
All-Star Race | Charlotte Motor Speedway
May 22, 2010 | Exhibition
RAIN OUT Position Based on Owner Points

POS CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR SPEED TIME BEHIND
1 2 Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite / Vortex N/A N/A N/A
2 20 Joey Logano Toyota The Home Depot N/A N/A N/A
3 12 Brad Keselowski Dodge Penske Racing N/A N/A N/A
4 1 Jamie McMurray Chevrolet Nat'l Wild Turkey Federation N/A N/A N/A
5 18 Kyle Busch Toyota M&M's Pretzel N/A N/A N/A
6 00 David Reutimann Toyota Aaron's Dream Machine N/A N/A N/A
7 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's N/A N/A N/A
8 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet DuPont N/A N/A N/A
9 83 Casey Mears Toyota Red Bull N/A N/A N/A
10 39 Ryan Newman Chevrolet Tornados N/A N/A N/A
11 14 Tony Stewart Chevrolet Burger King N/A N/A N/A
12 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Office N/A N/A N/A
13 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Pennzoil Ultra N/A N/A N/A
14 17 Matt Kenseth Ford Crown Royal Black N/A N/A N/A
15 5 Mark Martin Chevrolet Delphi / Go Daddy.com N/A N/A N/A
16 9 Kasey Kahne Ford Budweiser N/A N/A N/A
17 71 Bobby Labonte Chevrolet TaxSlayer.com N/A N/A N/A
18 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Dale Jr. Foundation / National Guard / Amp Energy N/A N/A N/A

+ Set by Owner Points
* Denotes Rookie

Costactc
05-22-2010, 12:42 PM
How many drivers from the Showdown actually make it to the All Star race DD?

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 12:53 PM
18 Kyle Busch
FCL 35
LCL 99

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 12:55 PM
How many drivers from the Showdown actually make it to the All Star race DD?

Three.

The winner, the second place finisher, and the fan vote winner.

aj1
05-22-2010, 12:57 PM
hope I get this right....

showdown driver: 42 Montoya
flc #12
lcl #36

all-star driver: 18 Busch
flc #18
lcl #95

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 01:00 PM
hope I get this right....

showdown driver: 42 Montoya
flc #12
lcl #36

all-star driver: 18 Busch
flc #18
lcl #95

Perfect! For those of you that need to make two selections for tonights races, follow what aj1 has done here!!!

Costactc
05-22-2010, 01:01 PM
Three.

The winner, the second place finisher, and the fan vote winner.

So if Montoya comes in first, he'll be in the All Star race, I would be able to choose him?

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 01:03 PM
So if Montoya comes in first, he'll be in the All Star race, I would be able to choose him?

Yes, that is what Cujo was asking. You would need to hang around late to make your pick though.

publicraven
05-22-2010, 06:40 PM
No need to Hang around, theres only one winner tonight Doc...that is


THE NUMBER 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr

FCL 30
LCL 88

I can't wait for the race....Boogity,Boogity,Boogity....let's go racing boys!

TPB
05-22-2010, 08:03 PM
Showdown
Driver: 31 Jeff Burton
FCL - 23
LCL - 88

All-Star
Driver 48 Jimmy Johnson
FCL - 32
LCL - 86

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 08:56 PM
No need to Hang around, theres only one winner tonight Doc...that is


THE NUMBER 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr

FCL 30
LCL 88

I can't wait for the race....Boogity,Boogity,Boogity....let's go racing boys!

:transport: Lay off the crack pipe :tehe:

:D

publicraven
05-22-2010, 09:03 PM
Yepp, to hot for sure... just like my FLYERS!!! WHOOT WHOOT!!! 2 zip

eyeQ
05-22-2010, 09:37 PM
48 Jimmie Johnson:dj:

fcl 40

lcl 88

:auto::auto::auto::auto:

burton go get'em and join in:toot:

bobkoke
05-22-2010, 10:27 PM
16 Greg Biffle
flc #13
lcl #31



29 Kevin Harvick
fcl #27

lcl #98

buckets88
05-22-2010, 10:45 PM
All Star Race

24 Jeff Gordon

FCL 36
LCL 97

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 10:49 PM
Well unless we get one more person to join in for the showdown race, we know who are three transfer people are.....

Night Prowler
05-22-2010, 10:57 PM
All-Star Race

14 Tony Stewart

fcl.....47
lcl.....99

JCO
05-22-2010, 10:59 PM
Showdown race
99 Carl Edwards
FCL 14
LCL 84

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 11:00 PM
Well at least we have a little competition in the showdown now!

JCO
05-22-2010, 11:01 PM
:thumbsup: I know i'm a light weight but i'm still in... EyeQ is the heavyweight uncontested champ .....for now.....LOL

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 11:03 PM
:thumbsup:

Don't forget to hang around to get you all star race pick in if you transfer.

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 11:05 PM
:thumbsup: I know i'm a light weight but i'm still in... EyeQ is the heavyweight uncontested champ .....for now.....LOL

Trying to remember, but Marlo I think lead this whole thing last year until the chase, then once the points were reset, someone else took off and won.

It will get interesting!

JCO
05-22-2010, 11:06 PM
Ya gotta love that reset button,LMAO , specially when your in the dungeon like me....:thumbsup:

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 11:08 PM
Ya gotta love that reset button,LMAO , specially when your in the dungeon like me....:thumbsup:

I would not say your are in the dungeon, just stuck in a lower gear :D

JCO
05-22-2010, 11:09 PM
Now who was the one that gave me a bogamatic tranny...LOL Oppps I missed the first starts... Thats why..

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 11:21 PM
Well folks the opening cerimonies are starting for the showdown race, and I only have 4 entries.

Well I am not going to have four entries and leave one behind, so .....

Congrats to the four of you (aj1, TPB, bobkoke, and JCO) for transfering into the show!

The closest to the winner out of the four of your will get the recognition for winning the showdown race still.

Showdown entries are CLOSED!!!!

marlo803
05-22-2010, 11:39 PM
Trying to remember, but Marlo I think lead this whole thing last year until the chase, then once the points were reset, someone else took off and won.

It will get interesting!

and that's a fact!and it got real interesting when someone forgot to turn his

pick's in. i don't think that will happen this year :stop:

Dish Doctor
05-22-2010, 11:51 PM
hope I get this right....

showdown driver: 42 Montoya
flc #12
lcl #36

all-star driver: 18 Busch
flc #18
lcl #95

One down....three to go.

Good luck in the all star race!

Dish Doctor
05-23-2010, 12:14 AM
Looks like bobkoke is our All-Star showdown race winner with his choice of 16 Greg Biffle (who finished 2nd).

Congrats and good luck in the All-Star Race!!!

JCO
05-23-2010, 12:15 AM
Allstar picks
99 Carl Edwards
FCL 14
LCL 86

:innocent:
Sorry for my tardiness

Dish Doctor
05-23-2010, 12:17 AM
Allstar picks
99 Carl Edwards
FCL 14
LCL 86

:innocent:
Sorry for my tardiness

Try again.....Carl Edwards is not in the big race....unless he gets the fan vote.

bobkoke
05-23-2010, 12:17 AM
Well I finally won the showdown :)

Biffle! with no change of tires. Thanks for the fun Dish!

JCO
05-23-2010, 12:23 AM
Told ya , F1 fans dont know nottin about oval racing..LOL

11 Denny Hamlin
FCL 14
LCL 84

Dish Doctor
05-23-2010, 12:25 AM
Told ya , F1 fans dont know nottin about oval racing..LOL

11 Denny Hamlin
FCL 14
LCL 84

Well for a F1 fan...your doing just fine!

Got your picks on the list here :D

Dish Doctor
05-23-2010, 12:50 AM
Allstar picks
99 Carl Edwards
FCL 14
LCL 86

:innocent:
Sorry for my tardiness


Try again.....Carl Edwards is not in the big race....unless he gets the fan vote.


Told ya , F1 fans dont know nottin about oval racing..LOL

11 Denny Hamlin
FCL 14
LCL 84

Well I guess he got the fan vote.....

Which one do you want?

JCO
05-23-2010, 12:52 AM
Well DD I will go with the fan vote and my first Pick Edwards it is...:thumbsup:

Dish Doctor
05-23-2010, 12:53 AM
Well DD I will go with the fan vote and my first Pick Edwards it is...:thumbsup:

Got it! :thumbsup:

bobkoke
05-23-2010, 03:06 AM
Man what a finish

Dish Doctor
05-23-2010, 03:16 AM
Congrats to Night Prowler for winning the All-Star race.

You can change your own title!!!

JCO you should have kept your original pick of 11 Denny Hamlin!!! :D

Congrats to everyone that participated in tonights races.

This is what makes it fun for all of us!

bobkoke
05-23-2010, 03:26 AM
Congrats Night Prowler and thanks again Dish Doctor.
:)

Night Prowler
05-23-2010, 03:26 AM
Dude!!!!! I still have 2 laps of streaming left.......:cry:

eyeQ
05-23-2010, 03:40 AM
Congrats NP.....now its your turn:D

JCO
05-23-2010, 03:43 AM
I patiently waited till the streaming was over, Congrats NP on the win..:comfort1:
Thanks for all the fun DD

Night Prowler
05-23-2010, 03:43 AM
that was a fun race and pool.....great job Doc!!!! :thumbsup:

marlo803
05-23-2010, 03:44 AM
good job NP!:yes:

thank's to all players

get ready for the (longest race ) WORLD 600 ! !

if you don't love this race pool ,you ain't playin

a big shout out to DD...good job:bump:

keep it up

TPB
05-23-2010, 05:00 AM
Great Job NP!! Pool was a blast to play, thanks a ton.

Costactc
05-23-2010, 11:24 AM
Congrats NP, great pick.

publicraven
05-23-2010, 12:04 PM
COngrats NP!!!, and thanks a bunch Doc for making this so fun...keeps me tuning in everytime.. :o)

aj1
05-23-2010, 12:16 PM
way to go NP....thanks DD, it was fun even though I didn't get to see any of it...had to work.

Dish Doctor
05-23-2010, 12:36 PM
Dude!!!!! I still have 2 laps of streaming left.......:cry:


I patiently waited till the streaming was over, Congrats NP on the win..:comfort1:
Thanks for all the fun DD

Where were you two streaming the race at?

I was watching it on BEV which was about 5 seconds ahead of DN.


good job NP!:yes:

thank's to all players

get ready for the (longest race ) WORLD 600 ! !

if you don't love this race pool ,you ain't playin

a big shout out to DD...good job:bump:

keep it up

I am surprised to see that people still remember that name! :D

Night Prowler
05-23-2010, 03:05 PM
seeing how it was 20 minutes behind.....I'm guessing it was from across the pond this time....:lol:

marlo803
05-23-2010, 09:53 PM
Where were you two streaming the race at?

I was watching it on BEV which was about 5 seconds ahead of DN.



I am surprised to see that people still remember that name! :D

oh i don't remember.i just used to hear grandpop say WORLD 600

i'm not that old :bawl:...well almost:tehe:

Dish Doctor
05-23-2010, 11:20 PM
oh i don't remember.i just used to hear grandpop say WORLD 600

i'm not that old :bawl:...well almost:tehe:

I can remember a lot of those old race names....World 600, Southern 500, etc. And I am not that old either :D