Covid 19 vaccination and experience

[Costactc]

Astrazeneca, body aches after 24 hours-all good.

[leafs99]

Same AstraZeneca shot for me, body aches, no energy, lethargic, felt like crap but recovering now. It’s working I am told.

[The Noof]

I had the Pfizer 2 weeks ago.Shoulder joint (not the injection site) was sore for 2 days.No other ill effects. I feel it's our civic duty to get immunized when & if you can.If we can get to the 75% immunized mark, herd immunity should do the rest.Good luck to everyone...and DON'T lower your guard!

[auggie]

Had the Pfizer on the 19th sore arm for a day, chills that night, fine after that

[Justdroppedin]

https://i.redd.it/wuzb68c3ubv61.jpg

[Letsreg]

Had Pfizer on the 6th. No side effects, not even sore at the injection site. Wife had the Moderna a week ago & no problems.

[shinning]

Had the Pfizer on the 4th. Little or no side effects.

[dukeathome]

Wife and I had first Pfizer last night,slightly sore at injection site so far nothing else

[strunz]

I had Pfizer a couple of weeks a no problem at all

[greenphantom61]

I just got the Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) at 2 PM today. I'll update this in a day or 2. So far so good.

[dogdayz]

Got the Pfizer on Tuesday, felt a little abnormally tired the next morning, a bit sore at the injection site but no big problem. All is fine today.

[ranger]

Got the Pfizer second shot 2/4/2021 ..No problems at all

[greenphantom61]

Here's that update: Later that night I started feeling kinda blah. Woke up with mild flu like symptoms. Sore muscles, body aches/joint pains. Lasted the rest of the day. Next day was a little better but still didn't feel like doing much. By Sunday I was at @ 85% and feeling a lot better. The worst part was the injection site soreness. Today I'm out here dodging tornados in Atlanta. I'm 'bout ready to hang up my mask but will hold off for now as many places still requiring it for entry. If this keeps me out of the hospital (and grave) I'd say it's all worth it and I'd highly recommend getting yours so we can all go back to "normal" (whatever that may be). Happy TrailZzzz .....

[kenkell1]

Get my shot May 12th and it will be pfizer

[foresight]

First pfizer in April sore injection sight. Second pfizer 21 days later and about the same deal slight sore injection sight and nothing more. Gonna wear the mask for a while yet. Raging case of complete dumb@zz out there and I don't won't to take a chance on catching it.

[runamok]

Bill Maher contracts COVID despite being vaccinated

[Costactc]

Fully vaccinated, got my second dose today-pfizer.

[dogdayz]

Got my second dose of Pfizer today. People say reactions can be worse with the second shot. I expect to feel tired tomorrow but hopefully nothing else.

[Terryl]

I got mine months ago, the only side affect was that my left arm shot up at a weird angle, (had to duck to get under the door for a few days) the funny thing was that I got the shots in the right shoulder.

[runamok]

Trouble may be on way for people that refuse to get the shots.They may be forced to get them.I never received a shot and never will.

[auggie]

First shot Pfizer, second shot Moderna about a month ago, the Moderna one, soar arm & felt crappy for a day or Two

[dogdayz]

Trouble may be on way for people that refuse to get the shots.They may be forced to get them.I never received a shot and never will.

Do it! No big deal and it could save your life. :yes:

[The Noof]

I see it as a civic obligation.

[The Noof]

Trouble may be on way for people that refuse to get the shots.They may be forced to get them.I never received a shot and never will.

I never understood why people feel that way.Would you accept a blood transfusion if you needed one because of a bad accident of some sort?Keep in mind that if the health risks become great enough (& that's not far off),the governments can make it very difficult for the unvaccinated.They can & will mandate FAR more than masks, such as proof of vaccination to get in a grocery store.Your not vaccinated then someone who is will do your shopping for you.Don't forget the complexity of the world we live in.
Sometimes the best way to get a person to do something is tell him he is forbidden to do it.

[runamok]

If you are vaccinated then what is there to worry about?My guess is the vaccination is not a cure and if the government pushes them then I would start to worry.

[The Noof]

If you are vaccinated then what is there to worry about?My guess is the vaccination is not a cure and if the government pushes them then I would start to worry.

I'm not worried about anything at all, except people not doing thier part.I don't know anyone that cheered at the opportunity to get vaccinated, & some people that were downright scared.I get that with uncertainty with the very little that we know about the vaccine.Most did it because it was the right thing to do, all failures included.I guess those people are not cowards, or afraid to do the right thing.You will feel different if someone you give a **** about dies.
It's very true that vaccinated people die...but unvaccinated people die at an alarming rate.Better hope it doesn't come for you, or even worse that you spread the illness to others.












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[dishuser]

who here gets the flu shot every year?

[The Noof]

who here gets the flu shot every year?

I have for the last 5 years.My mother has been dying a slow death from leukemia.I have to take care of her daily now.I can't risk exposing her to any immune sysem threat.

[auggie]

I too had leukemia back in 1995 spent about 1yr. in-out Hospital with Chemo treatments
Would not wish it on anybody, Noof I truly understand what your going through with your Mother

[The Noof]

I too had leukemia back in 1995 spent about 1yr. in-out Hospital with Chemo treatments
Would not wish it on anybody, Noof I truly understand what your going through with your Mother

Thanks bro...glad you made it.I seldom share my personal stuff here.I would not have mentioned it but DU asked a fair question that deserved an honest answer, so I gave it.I'm not one of those "O woe is me" guys".

[TLG]

Since we're sharing like a happy little family :)

I too had 2 shots of Pfizer
I didn't feel either ,, was like nothing happened

About the anti-vaxxers ,, I truly understand their concerns but it's clear the vaccine was developed through global effort and that's what helped it's quick development

The vaccine is meant to keep people out of the hospital ,, not send them there ,, Covid does that

@thenoof --- sorry for your troubles ,, I know exactly what your going through ,, I lost my mother to blood cancer "multiple myeloma" -- she was way too young to leave at 73

[The Noof]

Love your Ma & Pa kiddies....gone before you know it.
Of all the things I thought I knew as the absolute truth;you are a LONG time dead folks.

[runamok]

I'm not worried about anything at all, except people not doing thier part.I don't know anyone that cheered at the opportunity to get vaccinated, & some people that were downright scared.I get that with uncertainty with the very little that we know about the vaccine.Most did it because it was the right thing to do, all failures included.I guess those people are not cowards, or afraid to do the right thing.You will feel different if someone you give a **** about dies.
It's very true that vaccinated people die...but unvaccinated people die at an alarming rate.Better hope it doesn't come for you, or even worse that you spread the illness to others.












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People have the right do what they feel safe doing.

I have never got the flu shot and never had the flu.

[The Noof]

People have the right do what they feel safe doing.

I have never got the flu shot and never had the flu.

I hope your luck continues bro.

[dogdayz]

During our lives most of us have been vaccinated against polio, small pox, tuberculosis, mumps, measles, chicken pox, diphtheria, tetanus, hepatitis, etc, etc. Why not add covid to the list?

[auggie]

I have read/heard that they might make a covid/Flu combined yearly shot (booster)
if so I would be first inline

[runamok]

During our lives most of us have been vaccinated against polio, small pox, tuberculosis, mumps, measles, chicken pox, diphtheria, tetanus, hepatitis, etc, etc. Why not add covid to the list?



No because all but covid vaccines have been proven over the years.If nobody starts mutating I may think about it.

[kenkell1]

Just get the damn shot and carry on with life. MRNA vaccines are nothing new. All this fake garbage about vaccines drive me crazy! 4.48 billion shots given with a very small select problems recorded...Very small!

[pennywise]

Just get the damn shot and carry on with life. MRNA vaccines are nothing new. All this fake garbage about vaccines drive me crazy! 4.48 billion shots given with a very small select problems recorded...Very small!

except for all the other vax have been around and have had clinical trials and testing for a long time. Not sure where you missed that with this one....you are the trial, no other trials or testing were done, No thanks for now.

[The Noof]

except for all the other vax have been around and have had clinical trials and testing for a long time. Not sure where you missed that with this one....you are the trial, no other trials or testing were done, No thanks for now.

That is certainly a good point...we ARE the testing ground.In this case, the benefits are far greater than the risks thusfar.Time will tell all.I'm am not afraid in either case.If Covid wasn't as contagious (& my mom wasn't a factor), I would have taken my chances with the illness myself,like every flu season before my mom got ill.Not an option for me, & I really don't mind having done it for the greater good.BUT Covid is VERY contagious, so I would have had the vaccine in either case.

[kenkell1]

except for all the other vax have been around and have had clinical trials and testing for a long time. Not sure where you missed that with this one....you are the trial, no other trials or testing were done, No thanks for now.

I'm got the shot and could care less what anyone says. I listen to my Dr and him only. I got the shot for my Grand baby and to protect her for when she is old enough to get the shot if needed. I'm not a coward and not scared of needles. I find it outright funny when people smoke a pack of ciggies a day and then they tell me they aren't sticking that covid shot poison in them lol.....hypocrites....

[dogdayz]

except for all the other vax have been around and have had clinical trials and testing for a long time. Not sure where you missed that with this one....you are the trial, no other trials or testing were done, No thanks for now.

The older types of vaccines consisted of injecting you with a weakened virus of the actual disease with the hopes that your body would build immunity before you actually get the disease. Other vaccines are killed viruses or modified viruses.
All had potential risk and needed extensive clinical testing to achieve sufficient effectiveness and acceptable safety.

The new mRNA vaccines do not involve the disease virus at all. They are basically a set of instructions given to our cells that tell them how to make a protein found in the virus. Then our immune system sees the protein doesn't belong and builds an immune response to it. When the body sees the real virus containing that protein we have hopefully built up sufficient strength in the immune system to fight it off.

mRNA is not new, it's use in vaccines has been researched for many years for influenza, rabies, zika, etc. Cancer researchers are studying mRNA to target cancer cells instead of using toxic drugs and radiation.

Fortunately we now have the science to quickly obtain the genetic sequence of the viruses allowing faster development of vaccines.

Clinical testing is still required but with enough accumulated research and knowledge the effectiveness is better assured than a more "trial and error" approach thus allowing faster development.

For an analogy - Centuries ago if you built a bridge you had guess how strong to make it and test it extensively to see how many horses could safely cross, now, after years of research we can build a bridge without testing because we have the knowledge and formulas already. A previously unknown style of bridge can safely be built by drawing on our existing engineering knowledge and quickly go into service - same applies to research in drug development.

I feel safer getting a Covid mRNA vaccine than a measles vaccine that contains live virus.

[runamok]

I'm got the shot and could care less what anyone says. I listen to my Dr and him only. I got the shot for my Grand baby and to protect her for when she is old enough to get the shot if needed. I'm not a coward and not scared of needles. I find it outright funny when people smoke a pack of ciggies a day and then they tell me they aren't sticking that covid shot poison in them lol.....hypocrites....


Nobody is knocking what you do just don't knock what other people do.Doctors are not always right.When I went to the hospital because I could not breath one doctor said I had covid without being tested.I told him I do not and I was right.

[kenkell1]

Nobody is knocking what you do just don't knock what other people do.Doctors are not always right.When I went to the hospital because I could not breath one doctor said I had covid without being tested.I told him I do not and I was right.

It seems like the unvaxed peeps are the one whining the loudest when the country got locked down and now its going to happen again. People need to learn what herd immunity is. Without almost all being vaccinated herd immunity will never happen and it is as simple as that. Yesterday in the town I live in a guy who got a cold 3 days ago died this morning. This guy was one fit SOB as well....and I mean fit and healthy! He died from Covid19 Delta variant confirmed. He was not vaccinated and was actually a strong covid denier. Now his wife is all over telling people to get vaccinated. Every single contact trace that has come back here in the town I live in has come from unvaccinated people.

[runamok]

It seems like the unvaxed peeps are the one whining the loudest when the country got locked down and now its going to happen again. People need to learn what herd immunity is. Without almost all being vaccinated herd immunity will never happen and it is as simple as that. Yesterday in the town I live in a guy who got a cold 3 days ago died this morning. This guy was one fit SOB as well....and I mean fit and healthy! He died from Covid19 Delta variant confirmed. He was not vaccinated and was actually a strong covid denier. Now his wife is all over telling people to get vaccinated. Every single contact trace that has come back here in the town I live in has come from unvaccinated people.


I don't think so I never got that message.

[Costactc]

Everybody is entitled to their opinion. All I know is how relieved I am knowing that I'm fully vaccinated.

[pennywise]

viruses mutate they don't go away. There will be more strains regardless if you get vaccinated. The vaccinated can still get sick, just like with the flu and still carry, and harm others. So being the testing ground for this seems unnecessary to me. I now know more people that have had covid after full vax than people that ever had it without one. Just the area I'm in I guess.

I'm glad it's available and glad anyone that wants it can get it. Wasn't trying to stir the pot, touchy subject, just stating why I wouldn't, but don't bully and belittle others for their choice. Pretty sure our gov is going to over reach and start mandating, even though its not approved. It's happened in some places in the US already. I don't like the over reach.

[auggie]

Just wait till you want to travel out of country, some places are already imposing a vaccine passport/document besides
the regular Doc's. you require, a lot of restrictions/requirements etc. are going to come into play besides the lock-downs and stuff
on what a person can or cannot do being vaccinated/UN-vaccinated etc.

[The Noof]

Just wait till you want to travel out of country, some places are already imposing a vaccine passport/document besides
the regular Doc's. you require, a lot of restrictions/requirements etc. are going to come into play besides the lock-downs and stuff
on what a person can or cannot do being vaccinated/UN-vaccinated etc.

The problem with that thought Auggie is Canada has already opened it's border to the non-essential American travel.The border line-ups have been 6 hours long at time.Watch the covid new cases count 7 to 10 days from now.Border should still be closed to hotspots, & the U.S. is a hotspot.

[nobodyspecial]

Long ways from being over with less than 30% of the world vaccinated

[kenkell1]

The problem with that thought Auggie is Canada has already opened it's border to the non-essential American travel.The border line-ups have been 6 hours long at time.Watch the covid new cases count 7 to 10 days from now.Border should still be closed to hotspots, & the U.S. is a hotspot.

American tourists need a Negative covid test before entering, they need both shots or one J&J shot and their arriveCan needs to be filled out prior to entering. Miss one of the 3 your are not getting into Canada. Ottawa also just announced vaccine passport for international travel this fall

[dogdayz]

The problem with that thought Auggie is Canada has already opened it's border to the non-essential American travel.The border line-ups have been 6 hours long at time.Watch the covid new cases count 7 to 10 days from now.Border should still be closed to hotspots, & the U.S. is a hotspot.

I agree, the border should still be closed. It's laughable that Americans are allowed into Canada but the US still keeps out Canadians and Mexicans.
The most infected country in the world is now and has always been the US of A. Six and a half million active cases and rising fast, far more than any other country.
Time to build a wall around the US with a HEPA filter on top. :innocent:

[nobodyspecial]

Keep the BS and politics out of this or it will be closed!!

[dishuser]

I agree, the border should still be closed. It's laughable that Americans are allowed into Canada but the US still keeps out Canadians and Mexicans.
The most infected country in the world is now and has always been the US of A. Six and a half million active cases and rising fast, far more than any other country.
Time to build a wall around the US with a HEPA filter on top. :innocent:canadians can fly to the states
they just can't drive or walk over

[The Noof]

American tourists need a Negative covid test before entering, they need both shots or one J&J shot and their arriveCan needs to be filled out prior to entering. Miss one of the 3 your are not getting into Canada. Ottawa also just announced vaccine passport for international travel this fall

So what does that mean as long as people like this will have access to our country?The thing I worry about most is the mentality.The American constitution isn't left at the border when an American comes to Canada.

hxxps://www.cnn.com/2021/08/12/us/tennessee-covid-mask-mandate-school-board-protest/index.html

[The Noof]

P.S...my response is NOT political.Although we exist just a few feet apart from each other, there are large differences between Canadians & Americans response to the pandemic.The differences speak for themselves.

[jaybird1]

American tourists need a Negative covid test before entering, they need both shots or one J&J shot and their arriveCan needs to be filled out prior to entering. Miss one of the 3 your are not getting into Canada. Ottawa also just announced vaccine passport for international travel this fall

i have an American salesman that finally came to see me in Canada since the beginning and he said it was seamless following the rules laid out above, five minute wait. he also said it will cost him $175.00 to cross every time for the test.

[dogdayz]

P.S...my response is NOT political.Although we exist just a few feet apart from each other, there are large differences between Canadians & Americans response to the pandemic.The differences speak for themselves.

The statistics speak for themselves too.

hxxps://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Highwayman]

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-mcdonalds-mandate-covid-19-vaccine-20210811-iyy6jale2ng2dgenlz7ig3na6m-story.html

covid isnt political? lol..............

[nobodyspecial]

It shouldn't be and it's not going to be in this thread either

[runamok]

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[nobodyspecial]

proves nothing


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2020/aug/11/lost-on-the-frontline-covid-19-coronavirus-us-healthcare-workers-deaths-database

[runamok]

Its not about proving anything its about choices.

[dogdayz]

Its not about proving anything its about choices.

Personal choice is fine... as long as your choice doesn't later impact others.

[herk]

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Bet she is not an anti-masker...lol

[runamok]

Its going around that the new covid variant is worst to the people that has been vaccinated.Time will prove it or not.

[herk]

Its going around that the new covid variant is worst to the people that has been vaccinated.Time will prove it or not.

Any source for that info?

[nobodyspecial]

Its going around that the new covid variant is worst to the people that has been vaccinated.Time will prove it or not.

Worse than dying?

[dishuser]

Any source for that info?

only thing I've read is they spread it because they don't know they have it

[dogdayz]

The issue is that fully vaccinated people exposed to the variant can carry it and spread it but they are asymptomatic so don't know they are infected. Basically... the vaccine is doing it's job protecting you from the illness.

[Costactc]

Peeps that don't get vaccinated are just going to keep this bs pandemic lingering...think of others and not just yourselves.

[dishuser]

Peeps that don't get vaccinated are just going to keep this bs pandemic lingering...think of others and not just yourselves.

if you were dying of cancer would you have gotten vaccinated?

[surfinisfun]

if you were dying of cancer would you have gotten vaccinated?

I say probably not, not much incentive to get vaccinated but i sure would be wearing a mask indoors in public.No need cashing out before its necessary.

At least I'd have some protection and so would others just in case i was asymptomatic.

[dishuser]

I say probably not, not much incentive to get vaccinated but i sure would be wearing a mask indoors in public.No need cashing out before its necessary.

At least I'd have some protection and so would others just in case i was asymptomatic.
if I go out I even wear a mask outdoors if a lot of people are nearby
I try not to if possible because of copd

[The Noof]

The issue is that fully vaccinated people exposed to the variant can carry it and spread it but they are asymptomatic so don't know they are infected. Basically... the vaccine is doing it's job protecting you from the illness.

And probably got it from unvaccinated people.lol

[dishuser]

I say probably not, not much incentive to get vaccinated but i sure would be wearing a mask indoors in public.No need cashing out before its necessary.

At least I'd have some protection and so would others just in case i was asymptomatic.

and a mask doesn't protect me at all
it protects others

[surfinisfun]

if I go out I even wear a mask outdoors if a lot of people are nearby
I try not to if possible because of copd

Good call, i pretty much do the the same. My lungs are not the sometimes stupid happy inhales they used to be either.

[nobodyspecial]

and a mask doesn't protect me at all
it protects others

most masks wont protect you ,n95s will

[surfinisfun]

and a mask doesn't protect me at all
it protects others

A good mask will help you better than cheap ones.

[dishuser]

most masks wont protect you ,n95s will

if you go to a hospital you can't wear a reuseable mask
do they give you an n95 mask in place?nope
and I still have 2 boxes of n95's left from several years ago
getting sick from covid doesn't concern me anymore

[dishuser]

A good mask will help you better than cheap ones.

is that why at the hospital they wear a mask plus shield?
why don't the staff get better masks?

[dogdayz]

Peeps that don't get vaccinated are just going to keep this bs pandemic lingering...think of others and not just yourselves.
Right on, that's the bottom line simple solution my friend. :thumbsup:

[surfinisfun]

if you go to a hospital you can't wear a reuseable mask
do they give you an n95 mask in place?nope
and I still have 2 boxes of n95's left from several years ago
getting sick from covid doesn't concern me anymore

If you have real n95's why would it matter about re-usable masks?Although i do understand breathing is a little more restrictive.

I may get some just for a little more piece of mind in public......looking cool is out the window.lol

[surfinisfun]

is that why at the hospital they wear a mask plus shield?
why don't the staff get better masks?

Pretty sure that's for staff because of coughing or sneezing directly at them......less likely in real world.

[dishuser]

If you have real n95's why would it matter about re-usable masks?Although i do understand breathing is a little more restrictive.

I may get some just for a little more piece of mind in public......looking cool is out the window.lol

when pandemic started you couldn't get those masks in canada
I was lucky and had 5 boxes

[dishuser]

And probably got it from unvaccinated people.lol

and here I thought it was from those that are double vaccinated that feel they have the right to not wear a mask...lol

[fn59]

I heard this the other day: The vaccine is like a seatbelt or air bag in a car, it will protect you in case of an accident but you still have to take care not to get into an accident

[kenkell1]

I heard this the other day: The vaccine is like a seatbelt or air bag in a car, it will protect you in case of an accident but you still have to take care not to get into an accident

That's pretty good and sums it up in a nutshell.

[surfinisfun]

Indoor mask mandates are back in place for all of B.C.

I'm fine with it as with 70-80% vaccine doses administered for those that can get vaccinated. I believe this measure could crush the virus along with the latest uptick of new people ready to roll up their sleeve.......hopefully.

[auggie]

The New Normal is that We Will Be Dealing with this Virus/Covid for Yrs. to come
Because it will keep Mutating and so forth, needing Yearly shots etc.

[dogdayz]

The New Normal is that We Will Be Dealing with this Virus/Covid for Yrs. to come
Because it will keep Mutating and so forth, needing Yearly shots etc.

and if people don't get vaccinated it has more chance of spreading and mutating....

[kenkell1]

My wife and I currently have both our covid shots. 9 days ago our 20 year old son who lives with us and who has his first shot was infected by his buddy who had no shots. So here my wife and sit in a home that has has covid. My wife cooks for him etc etc etc...and he has the basement to himself and his own bathroom to isolate kind of away from us.
My wife and I have both tested negative as of yesterday and the Dr. stated it was because we were both vaccinated that my wife and I have never got this BS crap that came from China.
Get your shots people as the benefits far out weigh the negative.
I also live in BC where by Sept 13th if you are not fully vaccinated you will be basically staying home. No restaurants, nightclubs, etc etc etc.

[runamok]

I hate pissing gasoline on a fire with you nay sayers but people have the right to do what they feel comfortable with and safe.I will make the call on what is put into my body.Some people still getting vaccinated have got covid again so no matter what you say its not a cure.

[dogdayz]

I hate pissing gasoline on a fire with you nay sayers but people have the right to do what they feel comfortable with and safe.I will make the call on what is put into my body.Some people still getting vaccinated have got covid again so no matter what you say its not a cure.

It is not a cure or intended to be a cure. Yes, you can still test positive after being vaccinated. It is meant to keep you from getting seriously ill and/or dying.

[nobodyspecial]

I hate pissing gasoline on a fire with you nay sayers but people have the right to do what they feel comfortable with and safe.I will make the call on what is put into my body.Some people still getting vaccinated have got covid again so no matter what you say its not a cure.

I think the public good outweighs the individual rights. The founding fathers mandated inoculations. I dont see people comparing george washington to the nazis.

[TLG]

If some one wanted me sick
Why would they go through the trouble of creating a vaccine?

Wouldn't it have been easier to just let me get sick on the virus?

[Highwayman]

In my world covid shots would be a law.If one chooses not to get a shot they should be <br />
held accountable if they contract and spread it. If it resulted in a death manslaughter charges <br />
should be in...

[surfinisfun]

One thing that bothers me the most is even if you're fully vaccinated,
you can have a viral load in your nose or throat that could easily spread to others. If fully vaccinated people can still spread it and the efficacy goes down......how can you stop it? Sucks

[Highwayman]

One thing that bothers me the most is even if you're fully vaccinated,
you can have a viral load in your nose or throat that could easily spread to others. If fully vaccinated people can still spread it and the efficacy goes down......how can you stop it? Sucks

I realize its still early yet but where would
this "viral load" be coming from most likely from the
UN-vaccinated yeah the vaccinated may still carry the virus but its already showing
that its not a common occurrence.How can you stop it you cant you can only control it
that's why its important that everyone does his/her part and get vaccinated to stop
the spread as much as possible.Unfortunately many have and will still become statics
but that's the price we pay for living in this wonderful world.

Highwayman out!

[pennywise]

Why don't we shut down fast food then, demand everyone get to their healthy target weight and outlaw alcohol. This will ensure they are in the best position possible to effectively fight off viruses....

[dishuser]

I realize its still early yet but where would
this "viral load" be coming from most likely from the
UN-vaccinated yeah the vaccinated may still carry the virus but its already showing
that its not a common occurrence.How can you stop it you cant you can only control it
that's why its important that everyone does his/her part and get vaccinated to stop
the spread as much as possible.Unfortunately many have and will still become statics
but that's the price we pay for living in this wonderful world.

Highwayman out!
25% of the cases in ontario yesterday were from those who are fully vaccinated

[Putski]

what about the people that have had the China Virus.. natural vaccine, the body knows how to to heal its self.
I have had it (China Virus) and 40 or more other friends have had it!
Also have several friends that have been vaccinated and a few have had bad side affects!
In Wisconsin they started paying people a 100 dollars to be their sheep and Lab rats sad sad sad!

[herk]

China virus is a slang term for covid 19 so what about it?
Things aren't looking too good in Wisconsin now.

[Highwayman]

Why don't we shut down fast food then, demand everyone get to their healthy target weight and outlaw alcohol. This will ensure they are in the best position possible to effectively fight off viruses. We could make all these laws, if you're 50 pounds over weight, it's jail for you. Everything listed here kills way more people yearly then covid. Polio, mumps and measles don't carry the same way as corona viruses, terrible comparison, however those vaccines were developed over years and years and not 8 months. They say they didn't skip trials. never seen anyone collect 5 to 10 years of data in 8 months, they haven't even been around long enough to have a study on new born babies yet. And last but not least, this vaccine in under a year has had more deaths, hospitalizations and adverse affects than all other vaccines combined in the last 30 years, so there's that, and it's only reported to vaers at 1%. Choice for our bodies is important. Glad those that want it can get it.

That would be a little extreme if you want to gt extreme why not separate the races
and polio measles and the mumps was not meant to be a comparison lol and to all the rest
of your statement what do you suggest that we do nothing?

[Highwayman]

25% of the cases in ontario yesterday were from those who are fully vaccinated



yeah i bet that 25% would be a lot less if everyone in ontario was vaccinated.im not sayin covid is going to go away
so what do we do wait 10 years for the complete testing is done and then there will be many saying the same thing
about the next development no common sense get vaccinated theres not enough wood to bury us all waiting on testing lol.
We are the test......

[runamok]

what about the people that have had the China Virus.. natural vaccine, the body knows how to to heal its self.
I have had it (China Virus) and 40 or more other friends have had it!
Also have several friends that have been vaccinated and a few have had bad side affects!
In Wisconsin they started paying people a 100 dollars to be their sheep and Lab rats sad sad sad!


And people giving me hell for not getting shot up.

[pennywise]

That would be a little extreme if you want to gt extreme why not separate the races
and polio measles and the mumps was not meant to be a comparison lol and to all the rest
of your statement what do you suggest that we do nothing?

Did you just call getting healthy extreme? But getting an unknown substance shot into your body should be law lol Might as well separate the races, that's what's happening. A majority of the unvaxed in the US are people of color, and they are about to be segregated...they are about to get fired and not be allowed into restaurants and stores, already happening. Its a virus, and we aren't the only hosts. It's not going away. Vax those that want it and let everyone else catch it for immunity.

[dogdayz]

I just can't understand what the naysayers are afraid of. If it wasn't for vaccines a lot of us wouldn't be here today. I have had two shots of the Pfizer vaccine and I haven't turned into a mutant.

I think some people need to educate themselves on how the covid vaccines were created to better understand the mechanism.

[Putski]

yeah i bet that 25% would be a lot less if everyone in ontario was vaccinated.im not sayin covid is going to go away
so what do we do wait 10 years for the complete testing is done and then there will be many saying the same thing
about the next development no common sense get vaccinated theres not enough wood to bury us all waiting on testing lol.
We are the test......

First off I think this Thread should closed!
as it seems to be dividing us on our thoughts and opinions!
stay healthy and safe!
we are all Family!

[TLG]

I have a double dose of Pfizer, nothing happened to me other than relief from the anxiety

My friend is an antivaxxer, she doesn't believe there ever was a virus, to her, this so Called pandemic is nothing more than another flu ,,
To her, the conspiracy is the vaccine!!!

She truly believes this pandemic is all a scheme to feed the world a control substance, where we are in a "Big brother is watching" fish bowl
Orchestrated by big powers the likes of Bill Gates and Government partnered with big pharma

I need new friends :bawl:

[fn59]

25% of the cases in ontario yesterday were from those who are fully vaccinated

Yes, but about 75% are fully vaccinated, so the vast majority of cases are from those not fully vaccinated. Also those that are fully vaccinated are less likely to require hospitalization.